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If they don't like your name... YOUR PERMANENTLY BANNED!

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  • Paragus1Paragus1 Member UncommonPosts: 1,741

    All arguing aside, this will probably affect maybe 2% or less of the total population of the game.  Then you have to ask yourself out of that 2%, how many of those are legit players?  I can't think of anyone I know or in any guild I have allied with (been through (2-3 alliances) who had a name that would even be remotely close to being hit by this policy.

  • Jerid13Jerid13 Member Posts: 465
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    Originally posted by skydragonren


    1. I do have a degree, a very nice one, looks nice on my desk at work.
    2. I am not a kid.

    Then you are just another proof than even adults with degrees can be immature. Defending people who intentionally use stupid names to disrupt gameplay or abuse mechanics means that either you're to dumb to realize why those people are doing it, or that you're one of those people, or that you're just trolling. Make your choice.

     

    Thank you for getting this back on Topic, why do people bother commenting here when they havn't even read the DF forums?

    They'd know then that the people in question were infact hacking and that is why they are banned, not from them having stupid names.

    The names are just an indicator...  Its been really well explained why it is...

    I'm sorry if you can't accept the rules that are laid out plain as day for all to see.

    Rules are Rules, follow them.

     

    skydragonren   go to the DF forums, read a few things, then make an INFORMED post rather than just trolling here please.  If you had you'd know they actualy DID investigate the people in question, your arugments are unforunded.

  • skydragonrenskydragonren Member Posts: 667
    Originally posted by Paragus1


    All arguing aside, this will probably affect maybe 2% or less of the total population of the game.  Then you have to ask yourself out of that 2%, how many of those are legit players?  I can't think of anyone I know or in any guild I have allied with (been through (2-3 alliances) who had a name that would even be remotely close to being hit by this policy.

     

    Well then that changes things, Why didn't you just say so.

    If you got 5 guys running around with !I!I!II!I!I!I! being sneaky then they might be hackers who knows.

    I will just change my stance.

    Anyone without a normal regular name should be banned from MMO's.

     

    That will make things easier.

     

    Since it doesn't really affect me anyway because I do not play DFO.

     

    Hope it gets better one day though, and just to be clear from several pages back. I really don't HATE DFO. I like the idea of the game. It either needs to be sold to a company that can actually run it, or like I said closed down so someone else can cash in on the model but do it better, someone with the funds to make it happen.

    In theory DFO should have been the greatest game ever created, in reality it isn't that way, and as long as ADV has anything to do with it, it will never be that way.

  • Vince_GVince_G Member Posts: 85
    Originally posted by Paragus1


    All arguing aside, this will probably affect maybe 2% or less of the total population of the game.  Then you have to ask yourself out of that 2%, how many of those are legit players?  I can't think of anyone I know or in any guild I have allied with (been through (2-3 alliances) who had a name that would even be remotely close to being hit by this policy.

     

    you are correct. I have been playing since release feel the same way.  I have never seen anyone with a name created in the manner Tasos is talking about so if he's going to band name like  that there must be good reason. I can't stand hacking in any game.  People who actually played Darkfall would realize that.  It's so funny to see people bitch and moan and they haven't been in the game.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by Paragus1
    All arguing aside, this will probably affect maybe 2% or less of the total population of the game.  Then you have to ask yourself out of that 2%, how many of those are legit players?  I can't think of anyone I know or in any guild I have allied with (been through (2-3 alliances) who had a name that would even be remotely close to being hit by this policy.

    I'd have to agree here.

    If someone thinks about the amount of MMOs they've played, all the guilds/alliances and people they've been in and known, just how many of them had characters with names THIS far off the mark that were real players?


    I really think this thread isn't about the naming policy at all, or if someone shows up with an inflammatory name that's controversial (Chuckin Fink) that anyone could see what's behind it.


    The real reason he posted this thread is because Aventurine is looking to make strides against all the "waves of hackers" a lot of these very same people here are laughing and saying are all in the game. So Darkfall makes a move to ban clearly hackers (no one would name themselves that, seriously) and people are claiming free speech and expression?


    This thread is about these guys NOT wanting DF to actually clean the hackers out so that they can continue to say it's 'bot infested'. If they cleaned up the botters, that's just one less argument to use against Darkfall really. They really hate this game that much, that they hope Tasos would post "I really don't know how to stop hackers, so we won't try anymore."


    You cannot talk sense to anyone with this mindframe because most of them already admitted they want Darkfall to "go away" or "fail" or "implode", so they want these guys to be allowed to stay and cause havoc in the game. They merely are defending the free naming rights argument to hopefully allow hackers to stay in the game and bring it down faster.

  • akiira69akiira69 Member UncommonPosts: 615
    Originally posted by prow


    Jesus what is wrong with this company?  Check out Tasos's post:
     
    forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php


    Here is a quote:


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    Originally Posted by Tasos

    In 48 hours characters with names made in an effort to confuse GMs and other players, for example adding a string of lower cap L’s and upper case I’s (IlIlIIIl) in their names will start getting their host accounts permanently banned. If you have a character like that, delete him and make a new one with a proper name.

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    Here is a picture for future references if they erase this thread:

     
    Don't permanently ban someone because you have no clue how to code a way into your system to be able to rename their character's names... DON'T PERMANENTLY BAN SOMEONE FOR YOUR INCOMPETIENCE!
     



     

    Its their game they can implament any type of naming policy they want to. Personally I applaud them for this ruling. I hope the next step they take is start banning people with well known fantasy characters and ban them too(i am well aware of people thinking on got my name from the movie but I have never seen it only heard about it, I am currently looking for a DVD version of it at stores before i goto places like Amazon, NewEgg. BestBuy, and Ebay. Also I do not use this name in mmo's I have a long list of names that I use I wont state them here cause last thing I need is for someone to follow me to every mmo i play and harass me). I am sick and tired of seeing people with the name Drizzt(with proper spelling and different spelling variations of the name)

    "Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?"

  • wtfisupnigwtfisupnig Member Posts: 2

    I agree with the OP.  This company is the most unprofessional company I have ever seen in my life.

  • RuynRuyn Member Posts: 1,052
    Originally posted by wtfisupnig


    I agree with the OP.  This company is the most unprofessional company I have ever seen in my life.

    Idiot's deserve to get hit with the idiot stick.

  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,846

    One of the few good things I've heard about Darkfall.

    Its really to bad that SOE won't perma ban people like this in EQ2 on Antonia Bayle or at least export them.

  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228

    more game copy's available

    anyone that make names like that should be banned

    /agree whit tasos

    BestSigEver :P
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  • Variant13Variant13 Member Posts: 83
    Originally posted by cosy


    more game copy's available
    anyone that make names like that should be banned

    /agree whit tasos

     

    That's fucking moronic. Can't believe I actually spent money on the game, everything I read about AV and their "business" practises just makes me laugh now, these people haven't got a fucking clue what they're doing.

     

    Shame, DF could have been excellent. Great idea, ruined by fuckwits.

  • indiramournindiramourn Member UncommonPosts: 884
    Originally posted by MuffinStump


     

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    What you guys should be asking, is why does the system allow for such names in the first place.

     

    Again, MMO Internets 101.

     

    This.

    Settling the needs of the many, the few, and the one idiot who thinks he is being funny.

    Indeed, only allow capital i's (or any letters actually) as a first character of a name and this problem is solved.

     

    And Tasos said in the OP's quoted post:

    "Refunding for siege losses is also out of the question. We’re working on modifying the mechanics to eliminate this problem. We would rather use our programmers constructively fixing issues like these, than peering through logs to verify who lost what, where and when. We understand your frustration and appreciate your understanding. We’re doing our best here."

    Highlighting by me.  They are not doing their best if they are not willing to search through their logs to help resolve customer issues.  Not even close to doing their best.  Honestly, I don't like being harsh, but Tasos comes off as a completely arrogant prick in that post.

  • elpedolocoelpedoloco Member UncommonPosts: 2

    indeed Tasos is rude. Nonetheless he is not smart ethier, I got into the game without paying a dime.

    Apparently my transaction went in  but they didn't charge me. talk about smart.

     

    here is proof"

    Hello,



    You are receiving this email because you have not been properly charged for your Darkfall Client purchase. The Darkfall billing department has been recently notified that your credit transaction has failed, or that it was never processed. You can verify this information by contacting your credit institution. You have received a successful purchase message by error, and this was likely triggered by multiple purchase attempts. We apologize for the confusion.

    While you are enjoying an active Darkfall account, we're afraid you have not been billed for it yet. Perhaps you are also facing account management issues and difficulty re-subscribing as a result.

    In order to correct this issue, we will attempt to re-process your transaction on Wednesday April 8th.

    To avoid an unnecessary transaction rejection please update your correct account information by visiting the Darkfall account page:

    https://www.darkfallonline.com/accounts/f/default.php

    Please pay attention to the following:

    1. That your credit information is correct and that your credit card is ready to accept the charge for the Darkfall Client.

    2. That the name you list in the credit card field does not exceed 15 characters. (please use initials for long first and middle names)

    If the transaction is successful, you will be able to select a Darkfall subscription package and continue your Darkfall experience. If your transaction fails, we're afraid your Darkfall service will be interrupted until you can be properly charged for the Darkfall client and purchase a subscription. Your character and items will remain associated with your account until it can be re-activated.

    If you do not wish to be re-billed, then please remove your credit card information from the account page by using the option to remove it on top of the billing page. You should know that if you’re not re-billed we will deactivate your account.

    We would appreciate it if you did not reply to this email, unless you have a relevant question not covered in this message.

    Thank you,

    Darkfall Billing

    ....

    I am glad they didn't charge for this beta game, seriously if i were you i'd hold onto my money and wait at least the second NA server is up which at this rate is gonna be a While..

     

     

  • KrayzjoelKrayzjoel Member Posts: 906

    And the drama continues for this very poorly run game! LMAO

    Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
    Playing EVE Online and AOC.
    Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD

  • sanders01sanders01 Member Posts: 1,357

     Right thing to do in my opinion... any idiot/hacker with retarded names like "IIIiiilllliiilliiilll" should be banned permanatly, because you know there up to no good.

    Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/

  • LogothXLogothX Member Posts: 245
    Originally posted by Paragus1

    Originally posted by skydragonren

    Originally posted by Paragus1

    Originally posted by skydragonren



    Saying that 111llllllii1ii iii111i11 is up to no good is like saying don't go into an elevator with a black guy, he is going to mug you

     

    That is a rediculous comparison.  Do you play Darkfall?

     

    Paragus, you couldn't pay me to play this ridiculous game, you guys are missing the point though.

    I am not saying do not ban I!I!I!I!I!I IF you have the proof of the hack or exploit.

    I am saying that banning someone just because their name is !I!I!I!I!I!I is stupid.

    When you can prevent such things simply by doing the right things on the developer end.

    You are asking a player to delete a character when he very well may in fact NOT cheat. That is bad business. What is so hard to understand about it.

    Now if ADV is going to look up players with !I!I!II!!I names, send a GM to follow them in invisible mode, witness the hack or pull logs that prove the hack, then cool, good for ADV I commend them.

    Just seems as though ADV isn't going to take that route, and instead be lazy and ask anyone who doesn't have a "normal" name to delete their characters. Which is nonesense.

     

    OK, I just wanted to make sure, because for all the posting you are doing, it sounds like you think you have first hand experience with what is going on in the game on the ground.  So the truth of the matter is that you are one of the many people who try to find negativity in every single post, and pass themselves off as an expert, but doesn't actually play.   I think there is a name for people like that.

    The people who actually play Darkfall know these people are out there and are up to no good.  Your analogy I quoted is beyond silly.  A player makes a concious choice at character creation to make a name that is hard to type out deliberately.  This is not a court of law by the way, it's a video game.   For all the rage I see, I find it laughable that all of this comes from someone who has never set foot in Agon.

     

     

    You don't need to play the game to see how ridiculous this is, Paragus. For god's sake, even YOU should agree that having a company BAN people for having a bad name is unprofessional to say the least. What's wrong with simply having the GMs simply change the name, or flag an account so that the next time a character named "Muscle Dick" logs in, the game prompts him to change his name. Does aventurine even lack this basic capability?

     

    Come now, for someone who (for some reason!) is a featured blogger, you don't have your doubts? Barring the subjective qualities of the game, are you so deluded and attached to this game that you'll defend these laughable practices?

  • curiousdaoccuriousdaoc Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by sanders01


     Right thing to do in my opinion... any idiot/hacker with retarded names like "IIIiiilllliiilliiilll" should be banned permanatly, because you know there up to no good.

     

    Not true at all, nice generalisation though.

    I have a close friend who names his character ILLILLJLL, because it is an acronym for something that matters to him. Just because you see a gibberish name, is not an indicator of anything whatsoever.

    Stigma caused by RMT has led to this castration of character names, nothing more, nothing less. Had this been ten years ago, you would never have seen complainers whining about such a trivial subject, that has absolutely no bearing on the level of entertainment they receive from the product itself.

  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154

    It's cheaper to ban an account than buy more servers, plus you get another $50 to boot!

    Banning these people without warning is just pure laziness.  As Logoth mentions it would be incredibly simple to just change the player's name instead of banning them.  Banning them if they are cheating is fine and dandy, banning them for a bad name is just assanine.

    It's a Jeep thing. . .
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  • sanders01sanders01 Member Posts: 1,357
    Originally posted by curiousdaoc

    Originally posted by sanders01


     Right thing to do in my opinion... any idiot/hacker with retarded names like "IIIiiilllliiilliiilll" should be banned permanatly, because you know there up to no good.

     

    Not true at all, nice generalisation though.

    I have a close friend who names his character ILLILLJLL, because it is an acronym for something that matters to him. Just because you see a gibberish name, is not an indicator of anything whatsoever.

    Stigma caused by RMT has led to this castration of character names, nothing more, nothing less. Had this been ten years ago, you would never have seen complainers whining about such a trivial subject, that has absolutely no bearing on the level of entertainment they receive from the product itself.

    So if he does something bad in the game, and someone has a hard time reporting him, it's still OK for him to have that name? It makes more sense to ban all names like that so it does make it easier for players to report them if they happen to do things wrong, my original post was wrong in the gerneralization but right in the idea. 

    Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/

  • altairzqaltairzq Member Posts: 3,811
    Originally posted by curiousdaoc

    Originally posted by sanders01


     Right thing to do in my opinion... any idiot/hacker with retarded names like "IIIiiilllliiilliiilll" should be banned permanatly, because you know there up to no good.

     

    Not true at all, nice generalisation though.

    I have a close friend who names his character ILLILLJLL, because it is an acronym for something that matters to him. Just because you see a gibberish name, is not an indicator of anything whatsoever.

    Stigma caused by RMT has led to this castration of character names, nothing more, nothing less. Had this been ten years ago, you would never have seen complainers whining about such a trivial subject, that has absolutely no bearing on the level of entertainment they receive from the product itself.

     

    He should change that name anyway.

  • mcquaidedmcquaided Member Posts: 157

    You know i just remembered a few weeks ago there was on fourmfall poster who was eager to play. He posted frecuently in the darkfall fourms and when he finally managed to buy a copy.

    THE game did not allow him to use his fourm name!!!!

    We even discussed that issue here on mmorpg.com in these fourms. His name was in no way offensive.

     

    So all you amazing darkfall players who play this golden dimond of a game. I want to know why is the game encrypted to not allow ciertian names to be used but it cannot deter people from making stupid names like aIIllIiilili. you wont be able to answer that . Stupid programing

     

     

    This is further proof that the devs of AV are a bunch if amaturish ftards robbing people of their money with a half ass game.

     

    Im gonna dig deep in the pile of rubbish and find that post .

    heh even Eve you can simply click on a persons name and can black list ,add to friends ect,.

    Rookie programming at its finest. not to mention that most of the info is saved client side. Hackers Paradise ^^

    Im going to sell you a dream.

  • RespitRespit Member Posts: 770

    Lol, after multiple pages of posts, you guys still haven't figured out why Aventurine is taking this stance on names.

     

    It is simple, "They are JUST THAT HARDCORE!!!!"  

     

    Fits right in with the "theme" of Darkfall, if you asked me. 

     

     

    Edit: If you can't handle it...GTFO, Go Back To WoW...

    DarkFall FAQ - Read then Question with Boldness

  • MasterRyuMasterRyu Member Posts: 26

    WoW, I congratz  Tasos for doing something no other company would dare to do.  I mean I was sick and tired of seeing retarded names like LIELIIEKLE or IIIIJLLLIFH.  They exist in every MMORPG, and normally are not penalized.  Who cares about the feelings of these players.  They KNEW full well what  they were doing.  They wanted to be confusing, ban them suckers.  

    It's ironic how people call Aventurine a scam, yet they pull this off, which would likely  not be popular to the community and a detriment to their bottom line.    Haha, but damn, Tasos is damn arrogant.  Political Correct much?

  • KatrarKatrar Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by robertb

    Originally posted by prow


    Also...
     
    WHY NOT ALLOW THEM TO CHANGE THEIR NAME????????????
     
    Permanently banning people for this is ridiculous... 

     

    Was actually one of my suggestions.

     

    Glad to see the dev team listens... ;)

     

    lol you never fail to deliver mr. fanboi supremo

  • drasilgamedrasilgame Member Posts: 58

    Thats why it's good to stick to WoW although it sucks having had of played it makes every other game seem to suck so either stay way from it or play it all the time thats what it's stuck too and Darkfail is rather disapointing. I've seen some F2p shitty ass grinders with better customer service than this. And they allow ching chon china names and ôƒqæ?etc type names.

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