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Valarauk
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I'd been anticipating this game for two years prior to it's release and followed it's progress with eager anticipation... Less than two weeks into it I'm already bored. Leveling is ridiculously easy but long = tedious. Encounters in my experience are only made challenging by the incompetence of group members. The community has more whiners in it than any other community I've taken part in since my days on Shadowbane's Vengeance server after its' release years ago. I'm at a loss for what to do, this game looked so damn awesome I'm left wondering how the hell I'm not having more fun. The IRL friends who were there at launch with me havent been on in days and I'm left thinking what am I going to do now.
I think if there was a pvp server available for me to play on the server would hold my interest... but the chances of that happening any time soon are almost nil. WoW and GW don't interest me at all and now I'm left feeling kinda drained after all that anticipation for a game that didn't come close to meeting me expectations.
Just my thoughts, am I alone in my disappointment?
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Valar- 17summoner - Guk Server
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"The key to wasting time is distraction. Without distractions it's too obvious to your brain that you're not doing anything with it, and you start to feel uncomfortable." - Paul Graham http://paulgraham.com/hs.html
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hell yeah. im wit u.
all work and no pvp makes me a dull boy
I know exactly how you feel, you described how i felt fairly well when i played in the beta. Since it was beta I kept thinking it would get better and continued too trudge on to 30 something with my monk. When i heard they were pushing for a nov 9 release i kinda saw this coming, i knew that 2 weeks to 1 month into the retail that many people would be experiencing what your going through. Only the most hardcore players will keep on trucking in this game and normally im one of those people, but i just didnt feel isnpired to level for some reason.
Now don't get me wrong here, but I just don't understand how it is that you're already getting bored? Could it be that you're just focussing on one aspect of the game, namely leveling? Or could it be that you just had to high of an expectation of EQ2?
Like you, I've been playing since day one from release of EQ2. And I'm just having so much fun. This is the best experience I've had since playing my first MMO 4 years ago. I didn't follow EQ2's development at all. In fact, I even avoided anything about it, mostly because I detested EQ1. I got lucky and was awarded with a EQ2 beta key in the last week of beta (thank you mmorpg.com!). I played it a bit, a bit more and even more... Somehow I got hooked on the game. Maybe that's because I didn't play EQ1 (except for a few days), didn't follow development of EQ2 and so realy didn't have any pre-formed opinion about it.
And there is just so much to do in this game. There are offcourse the quests. These are not all 'kill this', 'bring item A to person B' or 'retrieve item C from there or there', standard quests. If you delve a little bit deeper, talk a bit more to some npc's (even after you did a quest for them), you'll learn about the demise of the dark-elves or the intrigue between the Freeport Militia and the Seafaring Buccaneers. You'll see that not every citizen is happy with with the way Freeport is run, and there is so much more! And I'm certain that Qeynos has equally interesting storylines and subplots. Sure, most quests require you to kill so much mobs or look up items spread out over the world. But If you pay attention, most of the quests are all little subplots around a larger subplot, from the larger storyline. This makes me feel that I'm not doing just quests... No, it makes me feel like I'm part of a greater story...
But I don't always do quests. I'm also taking up crafting. Now there is a lot to be said about the crafting system in EQ2. It certainly isn't perfect, maybe even buggy. And sometimes it irritates me like nothing else. But it is also fun to do and can be very rewarding. And the bonus is that you'll learn alot of the other crafters in your city...
Sometimes I'd like to just bash some skulls. So far I've not been on any raiding party or otherwise large undertakings. But I'm certain that will come in due time. In the meantime I have a lot of fun looking around different zones, soloing mobs, discovering places and even getting unexpected quests this way. I join groups when I'm in the mood for it and leave them when I have the desire to do something else.
So far I've not looked to join any guild. I'd like to settle in a bit and let the dust settle down before I choose a guild I like. But from what I've seen and heard so far, it seems that guilds in this game actaully *do* participate in the storyline. Either through questing or eventually even politics... But I'm not to certain about those posibilities...
As you can see, I'm have a blast in this game. And having no experience with SOE as of yet, I have full confidence in them to work out the bugs (yes, there are bugs, like in all MMO's), to rework a few things that aren't working properly yet (aka the crafting system) and to add exciting content on a regular basis. I'm in this game for the long haul. I've played enough MMO's and there releases to know that it's always bumpy and hectic. And for those of you who just cannot seem to have fun in this game (even with all this diversity), it's maybe a good advice to lay it aside for a while and come back in a few months. The dust will be settled by then, playing experience will be improved a lot and other MMO's will not seem as good as they look now
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I don't believe in God with a capital G and, despite their obvious solidity, I don't believe in the gods with their small g's. Not as real forces in the universe. But I believe in the bitch-goddess Irony. She crosses all time. She rules men and gods and God alike. And She has a wicked sense of humor.
Ilium - Dan Simmons
I respectfully disagree with you klapdoor. I'm finding there is really nothing to do in this game, and I log in and then back out within a half hour or so. I have yet to find a quest that isn't exactly what you describe. It's either kill X number of these, or kill this single monster, or some kind of FedEx type quest, or go and look at this area or building then report back to the quest giver.
In all honesty, I'm really not interested in any "story" though and never was in a MMO. If I want a good story, I'll read a book. I really just look for challenging situations, good strategy to overcome them, and fun gameplay. Sadly, EQ2 has none of that.
To the original poster, you're not alone in your boredom.
I think people are just sick of level grinds.
Yes. The grind has surprised me. lvls 20 and up are a hell. You can't solo at those levels so you need a good group. Loot, titles, and status quests are worth the amount of mobs you must kill and a good group can get a few bubs filled, though.
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exactly.... the funnest level grind is FFXI... EQ2 just sucks.
But i am a WoW fanboi.. so go figure.
Welcome to the light.
You sure your not a WoW fanboi?
Thats the usual counter-argument. Seriously tho i played EQ2 before WoW in beta and i couldn't play it for longer than 3 hrs. I made a Dark Elf. Just re-arranged the noob town workshop instance and had done perhaps a couple of quests before my enjoyment waned.
Still its all about Type of player EQ2 is a long term game i.e a good 2-3 years of playing before you reach end game and some people prefer this others like me do not.
Beta Tested: Lineage 2, Ryzom, City of Heroes, RYL, EverQuest 2 World Of Warcraft European
Truly Loved: World of Warcraft
Beta Tested: Lineage 2, Ryzom, City of Heroes, RYL, EverQuest 2 World Of Warcraft European
Truly Loved: World of Warcraft
Banned from Blizzard cause I was too GOOD!!!
Banned from Blizzard cause I was too GOOD!!!
I think you just don't like MMOs. You should stick to the offliine games and don't waste money on them, cause if you don't like EQ2, you are not interested i WoW, Gw sucks in your opinion ---> just wait til KOTOR2 is released, believe you will fine
MMO is a very specific type of the gaming, which will always invole a grind and a boredom but when you see your guild taking over hard-core mob and you talk to your friends during the raid ---> the game shines. Maybe you did not find friends to wonder around or maybe you just don't want to...
Give it time, survive few weeks, get familiar with the game, afterwards you might like it, otherwise you would not have an opportunity to understand the game
[quote]Originally posted by Wardoo
[b]I think you just don't like MMOs. You should stick to the offliine games and don't waste money on them, cause if you don't like EQ2, you are not interested i WoW, Gw sucks in your opinion ---> just wait til KOTOR2 is released, believe you will fine
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4years on EQ1, 2years on Shadowbane, and I still enjoy EVE... as for giving it (or WoW/GW) more time I don't find any taste I have to force myself to "aquire" worth my time. Thx for your advice anyways.
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Valar- 17summoner - Guk Server
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"The key to wasting time is distraction. Without distractions it's too obvious to your brain that you're not doing anything with it, and you start to feel uncomfortable." - Paul Graham http://paulgraham.com/hs.html
First off, I really mean NO OFFENSE in asking this... but..
How did you not find EVE boring? I played that game and mining was more mind numbing to me than a level grind...
Eve was just awful! i gave it a try and just sitting there and minning was horrible. Atleast in grinding monsters i get to hack and slash things, but minning thats just something i cannot endure.
Also for you guyz who are against grinding, then you should just stop playing MMO's all together. Go play CS or unreal or something shootout game. Without "grinding" then everyone in the game from the best players to the newest would be equal, we have a world for that its called "Care bear". I play an MMO for the pvp, i dont want to be equal to anyone. The most addictive thing about MMO's is that its online so it makes it competitive, makes you want to be the best. Thats why DIablo II was so addictive. Being the best at everything weather in RL or in-game is what drives us (excluding those RP freaks).
Well, maybe I stated the comment about quests a bit wrong. In most MMO's the quests are what I would call 'standard'. You talk to some npc and you end up with a quest to kill this or find that. Now what I meant is that the backstory or reason fur such a quest is mostly non-excistent. It's more like: Hmmm, I hate zombies, kill 10 zombies for me... Quests in EQ2 are thought out and (mostly) have a reason. I've been a GM on a local and rather small MUD. And I loved to create quests for the players, quests with a reason and a backstory.
But let's turn this around a little. Say you are a developer on EQ2, what kind of quests would you implement? The reason I ask this, is because you are rather limited in the types of quests you can implement in a MMO. And if you think of it, you'll see that offline rpg's have the exact same type of quests only with even more story and background in it.
What I'm realy wondering about is why you can say that EQ2 doesn't have any challenges. Unless you've played as a beta-tester and seen the level 30 and above gameplay? It takes time in a mmo to get through the content, even more so than in a offline rpg. But it is about the journy and in my opinion EQ2 has made it possible to enjoy that journy. And thereby, you set your own challenges...
Offcourse this is al my opinion. And unlike some I do respect the opinion of others. It's just that sometimes I realy don't understand why ppl dislike a mmo without playing for at least a few months. I've played Lineage 2 for 5 months and I can now honestly say that I don't like that game. But that's because I took my time, leveld a few characters and participated in a few events (sieges).
But as they say, to each there own...
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I don't believe in God with a capital G and, despite their obvious solidity, I don't believe in the gods with their small g's. Not as real forces in the universe. But I believe in the bitch-goddess Irony. She crosses all time. She rules men and gods and God alike. And She has a wicked sense of humor.
Ilium - Dan Simmons
I'm just curious of how much time you spent actually trying out WoW.
Sure there are quests that require you to kill things, but those quests have purpose.
Such as, getting you to explore and aquaint you with the surrounding area. Also it helps you prepare for the real quests which have a very thought out storyline that intertwines with the store of World of warcraft.
Think of those quests as prep-quests which would get you the nessasry experience, lvl, and items to do the real quests. You may have read it or not, but i might as well mention that there are eqip quests that effect the whole world/server of WoW, where upon finnishing the quest, a new area would be unlocked for the whole server. Depending what race you are in WoW you would be doing quests that has a backround story of our race. (If you were playing a gnome, you can focus on doing quests that involves liberating gnomregen the gnome captial that was taken over.)
Eve was just awful! i gave it a try and just sitting there and minning was horrible. Atleast in grinding monsters i get to hack and slash things, but minning thats just something i cannot endure.
Also for you guyz who are against grinding, then you should just stop playing MMO's all together. Go play CS or unreal or something shootout game. Without "grinding" then everyone in the game from the best players to the newest would be equal, we have a world for that its called "Care bear". I play an MMO for the pvp, i dont want to be equal to anyone. The most addictive thing about MMO's is that its online so it makes it competitive, makes you want to be the best. Thats why DIablo II was so addictive. Being the best at everything weather in RL or in-game is what drives us (excluding those RP freaks).
I like EVE for the player vs. player and interesting economy. It isn't nearly as fun as my days on EQ exploring new dungeons in kunark and later battling with newts/goods for zone control on Sullon Zek. I also think that a long level grind is a necessity for any MMORPG to be successful in the long term, I simply didn't enjoy EQ2 where the only dangers came from group members screwing up or going afk without notice or in combat etc. That was the only challenge I could find, putting good groups together and policing them.
"Don't blame me, I voted for Badnarik."
http://www.lp.org
Valar- 17summoner - Guk Server
WARNING: Spelling and grammatical errors intentionally left in document to test for Anal Retentive Trolls.
"The key to wasting time is distraction. Without distractions it's too obvious to your brain that you're not doing anything with it, and you start to feel uncomfortable." - Paul Graham http://paulgraham.com/hs.html
I'm actually not referring to WoW at all. I left out any reference to WoW on purpouse, because I indeed haven't played it as off yet, so I'm not able to judge it.
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I don't believe in God with a capital G and, despite their obvious solidity, I don't believe in the gods with their small g's. Not as real forces in the universe. But I believe in the bitch-goddess Irony. She crosses all time. She rules men and gods and God alike. And She has a wicked sense of humor.
Ilium - Dan Simmons
MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S
I agree, but I wish I didn't. I got bored, and now I'm gone. I just had this feeling of ...blah. No other way to describe it.
And as far as WoW 'fanbois,' EQ2 seems to be looking to create more of them.
Eve was just awful! i gave it a try and just sitting there and minning was horrible. Atleast in grinding monsters i get to hack and slash things, but minning thats just something i cannot endure.
Well, if you only did some mining - yes, then I would be bored as well. The learning curve is steep and you won't have a lot of fun in the first two weeks of playing. But... unlike at the other MMORPGs there is no instant gratification. The good thing about EVE is that you don't have the level grind and unlike all the other MMORPGs a ton of options to have fun. Have you ever joined a player based corporation? Fought against other players? Spied on other corporations? Probably not.... It takes time to educate people that there are other games out there that are not based on the MMORPG v1.0 core gameplay of levelling and xp gain.