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Ok, so i was really delighted that AoC actually released a trial, always was interested in this game and meant to come around and try it, then when i heard about the server merge, i was really bewildered as to the cause, and decided to wait buying the game. well, at least after one week of palying the game, i am no longer confused as to the why of server merge. I have played several classes now to 15ish on PvE servers, to get to know the classes
But first with the positive impression
-the graphics of the game are just great, the really create an atmosphere, so is the music
-the quests are varied, story line changes according to the class you play, and so far i have tried several, so this was a nice suprise
And that ends the positives
Now to the not so positive, as i said i have played several classes now, simply because i have not found a class i like and care about, i decided on the dark templar first, the description on the AoC site was just so tempting, an evil warlord in pact with dark powers , who can refuse, the reality of the class was a huge disappointment, and dark warrior that does no casting?? are you serious, how do u call this a hybrid?? the so called evil powers are a joke, i eman seriously, 4% life drain?? does it even matter in a fight??? the life tap weapon powers(they are called combos in this game for some reason) heal my dark templar for 2-3 while the mob is hitting me for 50, the class is simply a weak melee with a larger than life lore and some fine sounding but weak powers, i thought ok, maybe thsi gets better later on, so i asked around, nope, it does not, so there was that dream
so i tired others, i happen to like hybrids, which seems to be this games weakest chars , in every respect, tempest of set was next, apparently the class is overpowered now, i read the forums, (didn't want to make the same mistake as with DT), nerfed in next patch to about 40% of thier previous damage, who wants to play a char destined to become gimp. So i tried others and it was pretty much same story
I could go on, but short of the short version is, it's hard to find a class i like, the balance in PvP seems to be very much screwed and the inexperience of devs shows when it comes to balancing and nerfing. And then we have combos, i guess it's just one of those things that u either love or hate about this game, me, i hate it, it's ridculous, doesnt really add anything except making this game different(which i assume is the purpose) but it's a hassel and feels meningless . ACTUALY IT'S NOT THAT DIFFERENT, EVERY GAME HAS WEAPON POWERS WHO ADD DAMAGE, onlydiff is, in this game they are more of hassel to use. and they seem to be everywhere, except the pure caster classes. , the feats are another absurdity, the descriptions are often criptic and u have to hunt on forums to get a notion on the what the heck they do, also, it's really irritating that u have to spend points on useless powers to be able to train a power who is on the 4th or sixth tier, this allows for very little differntiation.
Well, i will probably buy a time card and give this game a month(since people told me i was quick to judge) but i think that would be it, and before u go all red in and face and pop a vein or two because i insulted your beloved game, remeber that games can not survive just by the numbers of their devoted followers, which i assume why this trial was released, teh devoted followers although loud, are often too few to pay for an online game alone.
AoC simply must take note of opinion of people who play this game and then leave, classes should be more diffrentiated, powers should be more meningful, it's absurd to lvl and get a power who adds 0.1% to a stat or damage
The engine is powerful, so is the background story but it's letdown by severe faults gamedesign and balance issues
And if all u have to say is i should go to another game and such, well, i think i will, i just thought some amongst u would appreciate a critical point of view
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If you plan on buying a month of the game and seeing what you dislike now, here's a advice from me to you. Wait with buying the month until patch 1.05 have hit the live servers.
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MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside
MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
First tought; bah.
Second thought: the game is not for everyone. As you state; combos are something ppl like or dislike and make a big part of the game; unless you play a caster, and some are nor combolikers nor casterlikers hence the game is not for them:)
About the lack of stats. Funcom is remaking how stats shows and are giving them greater impact on your character. This is not to make the game itemcentric just a tuneup based on player feedback.(think it was said somewhere; in WoW items gives your character up to 200% effect; AoC is aiming for 50% up from 5%-10%).
Third though; its gonna be said later anyway. Level 15 is to little to get to know the classes. You got a glimse at them. It shines through your post that you are afraid of gimpiness; I turn it around and it lookes like you want to play a OP class... In AoC skill means most anyway; you will get your ass handed to you despite wich class you play. Its just easier to do good with ToS than other classes. Personally I dont find ToS hard to kill; rangers and PoM on the other hand are my bane; but it dont mean Rangers and PoM are op:) And the person I find hardest to kill plays a HoX; see whine on forum; you should think I could kill him while afk.. The point: The hardest players in AoC to beat is those who know their class and know the other classes so they can apply right skill to the right moment; no matter what class. So basicly if you want to be OP(i admit that is more fun); learn how to play your class;)
No, i don't want to play an OP class, i want to play balanced classes, and i want to play classes who live up to the rep, AoC's dark templar does not live up to it's description one bit, hell, i have played priests in PvP games where priests have no offensive spells whatsoever and have had a blast because they could be specced to excel in their role, but neither do i want to play a gimp class, i find it frustrating and i play to have fun, not for any other reason, and i don't find playing gimp classes fun! Some do for the challenge value, i am not one of them.
As to your this game not being for everyone, i agree, this may be the conclusion i will reach, and leave the game, but when a game with so much hype has to merge servers, it is apparent that it suits just too few and some things has to change, as i said my main problem besides not finding any classes that i really like, is that i think lvling seems to mean so little in this game, getting one more combo or being able to specc one more feat that improves my damage by 0.5% is just too little to make me want to go on. Looks like sometimes i even can not do that but have to waste that feat point in something even more stupid which i don't even want because some spel down the tier needs 15 points in tree, this is just stupid game design.
And believe me, saying that game is not for everyone and people who don't like it should leave is not a solution(if you think this game does not have a problem which needs solving, wake up), in the end games are business, if you care about this game, you should try to understand why people leave and how you can attrract people. I have always like the connan universe, started reading Howards books long before first conan film came out(yes, i am that old). So the news of an MMO based on that universe was great. Now the disappointment is even greater. The game has fantastic graphics and enviroment and, so the tools are really there for a great game, and i have not seen any bugs or crashes, so techincaly, the game is super, it's the other stuff that puts people off.
And yes, i will probably wait with buying a time card until new patch comes out, as it is, i dont even consider subscribing
I actually bought the full game about a month ago because I was sick of waiting for a trial. My impression was: Combos are fun, graphics are good everything is just the way it is supposed to be but the game to me felt like it had not heart to it. I did not run into any of the bugs people whine about or anything the game just felt dead to me, not uninhabited, just kind of hollow.
Anyway thats my only complaint about AoC, the game is fine I just didnt get the tingles from it.
i like the game actually, though I still a newcomer and maybe after a month or two i will dislike it, but so far I really enjoy it. Though casters are way overpowered imo and the game becomes pretty easy with casters, too easy.
1.Did you not hear that Funcom are relasing a patch to address the eaxct thing you complain about?
2.Your highest lvl character is lvl 15 out of 80, i dont think at that level you can seriously get a grasp of the power of a particular class.
I wish I still had that newcomer enthusiasm with Age of Conan.
Seems like some MMO's get better and better the more you get into them, while some (like Age of Conan) get worse the more you play.
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
I wish I still had that newcomer enthusiasm with Age of Conan.
Seems like some MMO's get better and better the more you get into them, while some (like Age of Conan) get worse the more you play.
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Enjoy your Darkfall time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
I wish I still had that newcomer enthusiasm with Age of Conan.
Seems like some MMO's get better and better the more you get into them, while some (like Age of Conan) get worse the more you play.
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Enjoy your Darkfall time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Ah yes, because he doesn't like AoC so he must be a Darkfall fanatic. Right.
I don't like AoC or Darkfall, what does that make me?
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
I wish I still had that newcomer enthusiasm with Age of Conan.
Seems like some MMO's get better and better the more you get into them, while some (like Age of Conan) get worse the more you play.
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Enjoy your Darkfall time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Ah yes, because he doesn't like AoC so he must be a Darkfall fanatic. Right.
I don't like AoC or Darkfall, what does that make me?
racist
I wish I still had that newcomer enthusiasm with Age of Conan.
Seems like some MMO's get better and better the more you get into them, while some (like Age of Conan) get worse the more you play.
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Enjoy your Darkfall time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Ah yes, because he doesn't like AoC so he must be a Darkfall fanatic. Right.
I don't like AoC or Darkfall, what does that make me?
Someone with too much time in his hands?
I wish I still had that newcomer enthusiasm with Age of Conan.
Seems like some MMO's get better and better the more you get into them, while some (like Age of Conan) get worse the more you play.
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Enjoy your Darkfall time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Ah yes, because he doesn't like AoC so he must be a Darkfall fanatic. Right.
I don't like AoC or Darkfall, what does that make me?
Someone with too much time in his hands?
If only. Luckily AoC sucking gave me a little bit more time than I would have had though.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
I wish I still had that newcomer enthusiasm with Age of Conan.
Seems like some MMO's get better and better the more you get into them, while some (like Age of Conan) get worse the more you play.
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Enjoy your Darkfall time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Ah yes, because he doesn't like AoC so he must be a Darkfall fanatic. Right.
I don't like AoC or Darkfall, what does that make me?
Someone with too much time in his hands?
If only. Luckily AoC sucking gave me a little bit more time than I would have had though.
Had any luck finding an mmorpg you like?
I wish I still had that newcomer enthusiasm with Age of Conan.
Seems like some MMO's get better and better the more you get into them, while some (like Age of Conan) get worse the more you play.
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Enjoy your Darkfall time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
Ah yes, because he doesn't like AoC so he must be a Darkfall fanatic. Right.
I don't like AoC or Darkfall, what does that make me?
Someone with too much time in his hands?
If only. Luckily AoC sucking gave me a little bit more time than I would have had though.
Had any luck finding an mmorpg you like?
Not really, they are all pretty much the same. Waiting on a few promising ones though.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
I dont understand, AoC sucks for you and you still come here to read about it?
I dont understand, AoC sucks for you and you still come here to read about it?
I just read the interesting looking threads that pop up on the main page. Someone posted an AoC review, so I wanted to see how their views compared to mine. I saw someone make a smart ass comment to someone else just because they didn't like AoC so I chimed in. Any other questions?
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
I dont understand, AoC sucks for you and you still come here to read about it?
I just read the interesting looking threads that pop up on the main page. Someone posted an AoC review, so I wanted to see how their views compared to mine. I saw someone make a smart ass comment to someone else just because they didn't like AoC so I chimed in. Any other questions?
Well each to their own, if something SUCKS for me i wont bother reading a review about it . but hey whatever floats your boat. Maybe you like reading about sucky things, i dont, that's why i asked.
I dont understand, AoC sucks for you and you still come here to read about it?
I just read the interesting looking threads that pop up on the main page. Someone posted an AoC review, so I wanted to see how their views compared to mine. I saw someone make a smart ass comment to someone else just because they didn't like AoC so I chimed in. Any other questions?
Well each to their own, if something SUCKS for me i wont bother reading a review about it . but hey whatever floats your boat. Maybe you like reading about sucky things, i dont, that's why i asked.
A lot of people think AOC sucked at launch and we are hoping to bring them back to the game.. so you are telling those people to never read a review about the game since they think it sucks?
Well each to their own, if something SUCKS for me i wont bother reading a review about it . but hey whatever floats your boat. Maybe you like reading about sucky things, i dont, that's why i asked.
A lot of people think AOC sucked at launch and we are hoping to bring them back to the game.. so you are telling those people to never read a review about the game since they think it sucks?
Maybe he is talking about the CORE of the game?
No matter how much Funcom polishes the game, Age of Conan is what it is. No amount of patching will change the core of the game and if you hate that core, than you will always hate Age of Conan. Period.
I dont understand, AoC sucks for you and you still come here to read about it?
I just read the interesting looking threads that pop up on the main page. Someone posted an AoC review, so I wanted to see how their views compared to mine. I saw someone make a smart ass comment to someone else just because they didn't like AoC so I chimed in. Any other questions?
I only made a smart ass comment (to use your own words) to another smart ass comment.
Don't you think the following is a smart ass comment from Shillz?
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
The comment was never intended to the OP review or anyone's point of view regarding AoC, but only to that particular comment which I thought was a smartass comment.
I dont understand, AoC sucks for you and you still come here to read about it?
I just read the interesting looking threads that pop up on the main page. Someone posted an AoC review, so I wanted to see how their views compared to mine. I saw someone make a smart ass comment to someone else just because they didn't like AoC so I chimed in. Any other questions?
I only made a smart ass comment (to use your own words) to another smart ass comment.
Don't you think the following is a smart ass comment from Shillz?
Enjoy your time while it lasts, it could be over sooner than you think.
The comment was never intended to the OP review but only to that particular comment.
Not at all. He is simply saying enjoy the game while you still do, because you may become bored of it very quickly, which is what he claimed his experience was. It really just came off as someone saying they didn't like the game, and you getting butthurt about it and snapping back at them.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
I felt the same way, until I tried a Demo. Then, it all made sense to me. Melee = gimped, magic = OP. I was killing 4 mobs of my level at the same time when on a melee char, I could barely kill 2 (and still end up dead).
CC FTW. I could easily kill 4 mobs with my barbarian and 5 or 6 with some health pot running. Keeping them stunned and Knocking them back for as long as possible and making sure they were all in the proper position.
With mobs properly positioned, you can hit 4-6 mobs at the same time. (2 handed weapon required for the longer reach)
CC FTW. I could easily kill 4 mobs with my barbarian and 5 or 6 with some health pot running. Keeping them stunned and Knocking them back for as long as possible and making sure they were all in the proper position.
With mobs properly positioned, you can hit 4-6 mobs at the same time. (2 handed weapon required for the longer reach)
Ah yeah, that's true. Barbarian is a melee DPS class, so let me rephrase.
DPS = OP, Soldier classes = pathetic.
Also, speaking of pots, the game is not very clear on crafting. If there is even a profession that allows you to make potions, you'd never know by just playing the game.
We had over 30 people make the move to AoC from SWG when it released. Everyone either went back to SWG or is playing another game. The number 1 bitch was the combo system. People hated the fact that Melee classes had to go thru a stupid combo just to use a special when a caster could just spam attacks at will. If they got rid of the combo system I would play it again. SURE I could download one of the combo hacks like many of the AoC players that play melee but I would rather play a game that doesnt require a hack to stay on par with cheaters