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Wtf is wrong with me.

I keep fit and weight lift and run and I eat healthy and I don't smoke and yet I constantly have pains in my chest and I suddenly get my little finger on my left hand go numb and then I feel dizzy and then the sickness comes and the pains in my chest get worse. This will last all through the night like it is now and then it goes in the morning and I can finally sleep. If I get up and run about it doesn't go away but it takes my mind off it and then it's not so bad but if I lay in bed and try to go to sleep then it hurts alot more.



I've had this on and off ever since 2005 and frigging I go to my doctor and they say my blood pressure is fine and I'm fine and they send me home. I've constantly asked for an answer cause it fucking scares you when it happens and really hurts all night long.

It's like is it all in my mind or what? Am I going nuts? I know my Grandad has had 2 heart attacks and my Dad has had one heart attack and my Great Grandad died of a heart disease or whatever. It's like there has to be something to it and you tlel the doctors this and they just throw you out saying you're fine!

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  • dlooneydlooney Member Posts: 306

    This is just an amatuer geuss, but my guess is a blood clot.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by dlooney


    This is just an amatuer geuss, but my guess is a blood clot.



     

    Its not a blood clot. He's had since 2005.

    You may have costal chondritis. Its an inflammation of the rib cage and the sternum which mimics the effect of chest pains. If  you ever pushed your chest out like you were stretcen your back and hear small little pops (like knuckles popping but much quieter).

    Your small finger in your hand going numb and feeling tingly sounds like a pinched nerve. You may  have two seperate diagnosis which is making you believe its one diagnosis as they could be related with heart disease. Youve been checked out. Im more that positive you don't have heart disease. Heart disease is a black and white issue that can easily be spotted through EKGs and Myo Echocardiagrams. If your doctor gave you an EKG and you were fine, then you are fine.

    I have costal chondritis and i know what you are going through. Ive had it since 2003 and probbaly went to the hospital every 4 months until a doctor told me what it was and it is made worse by stress.  If you take some advil or motrin, the pain will lessen. Also, ask for some low doss anti anxiety medication. Those two medications will pretty much take care of it.

    If you have any more questions, let me know. Mom's a cardiologist and she's taught me a lot about the heart and I could always email her your questions and or concerns.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • While I can't answer your question I can offer two things. First, I'd try searching on the internet for some kind of medical forum. If you can find one dedicated to people suffering from conditions similar to you, there's a chance you'll encounter someone who has or knows what you have. I know you're frustrated and in pain, but I don't know if anyone here is a qualified medical professional.



    Second, I know and work with pharmacists, including one who's worked in a bunch of free clinics and jails and various volunteer works. She's not a doctor but she's seen alot of wierd stuff. I will ask her, although I won't be able to speak to her until Monday. Let me ask you a few things that she'll probably ask me:



    1. How old are you?

    2. Were you as physically active in 2005 when you first experienced the symptoms as you are today?

    3. Have you taken any over the counter medications like Asprin or Tylenol to relieve the pain? If so, where there any noticable results?

    4. Regarding the pains in your chest, what area or areas of your chest do you feel the pain? I know it's hard to put in words, but can you describe the pain, is it stabbing or a dull throbbing, something like that?

    5. How often does this happen? You said constantly, how many days a week? Does it happen always at a particular time? Does it come in bouts, happening frequently for a period of time, then going away and coming back again days/weeks/months later?



    I can't guarantee she'll know anything, but I've seen her point people in the right direction very often.

  • John.A.ZoidJohn.A.Zoid Member Posts: 1,531

    I'm just sick of it like I keep going to get checked and nothing ever gets found and the waits are so long by the time I get seen I normally feel better. Like when I was younger I used to suffer from constant nose bleeds and this one I had went on for over 2 hours and I was waiting so long it stopped by the time I got seen lol.

    I just wanna stop worrying about the next time this happens.

  • John.A.ZoidJohn.A.Zoid Member Posts: 1,531
    Originally posted by Sawtooth


    While I can't answer your question I can offer two things. First, I'd try searching on the internet for some kind of medical forum. If you can find one dedicated to people suffering from conditions similar to you, there's a chance you'll encounter someone who has or knows what you have. I know you're frustrated and in pain, but I don't know if anyone here is a qualified medical professional.



    Second, I know and work with pharmacists, including one who's worked in a bunch of free clinics and jails and various volunteer works. She's not a doctor but she's seen alot of wierd stuff. I will ask her, although I won't be able to speak to her until Monday. Let me ask you a few things that she'll probably ask me:



    1. How old are you?

    2. Were you as physically active in 2005 when you first experienced the symptoms as you are today?

    3. Have you taken any over the counter medications like Asprin or Tylenol to relieve the pain? If so, where there any noticable results?

    4. Regarding the pains in your chest, what area or areas of your chest do you feel the pain? I know it's hard to put in words, but can you describe the pain, is it stabbing or a dull throbbing, something like that?

    5. How often does this happen? You said constantly, how many days a week? Does it happen always at a particular time? Does it come in bouts, happening frequently for a period of time, then going away and coming back again days/weeks/months later?



    I can't guarantee she'll know anything, but I've seen her point people in the right direction very often.

     

    1. 25

    2. No it first started happening when I did a 3 day non stop grind in an mmorpg and I used to never do any exercise but I never got fat. Since that though I do exercise each day on weights and go for runs.

    3. I don't take anything

    4. It's not always the same pain like sometimes it'll skip a beat like a palpitation and somethings it's just a constant weak pain that runs from like the middle of my chest but slightly to the left and near the bottom of my chest and runs under my left armpit and sometimes to the tips of my little finger on that arm. Sometimes my little finger and the one next to it goes numb and I get a sudden sharp pain and I feel dizzy and then feel like im gonna be sick which never quite comes. Then this will pulse on and off for awhile and goes away fro like 30 mins and then comes back but all the while I have these othr pains as I stated above.

    5. I dunno it happens above once every few months it'll just come on but I didn't have it through the whole of 2008 but now I do again. I've had a weird feeling in my chest for the past 3 days and it's just sudden;y got really bad tonight.

    I hope it's something stupid that I'm doing.

     

  • BigdavoBigdavo Member UncommonPosts: 1,863

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    It sounds like Costal Chondritis followed by anxiety to me.

    Anxiety can cause dizziness, light headedness, and def heart palpatations and if you worry too much over it, you will develop panic attacks. Its a viscious cycle. You get chest pain, then get anxious, then develope anxiety induced symptoms and then think its a heart attack or stroke thus exasterbating your anxiety, causing more distress.

    If I were you, I would get an appointment with your doctor and ask about Costal Chrondritis and anxiety. Request an EKG if you havent already to know for sure.

    If you had numbness in your arm since 2005 and it was stroke or heart related, you'd already have the stroke or heart attack YEARS ago.

     Also, marathons on the computer will develop numbness and pain from the elbow anywhere to the finger tips.  Your trigger finger and corpal tendons get inflammed from repititive motion and shooting pain, tingling, and numbness will last for a few days.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • LuckyCurseLuckyCurse Member Posts: 394
    Originally posted by Enigma


    It sounds like Costal Chondritis followed by anxiety to me.
    Anxiety can cause dizziness, light headedness, and def heart palpatations and if you worry too much over it, you will develop panic attacks. Its a viscious cycle. You get chest pain, then get anxious, then develope anxiety induced symptoms and then think its a heart attack or stroke thus exasterbating your anxiety, causing more distress.
    If I were you, I would get an appointment with your doctor and ask about Costal Chrondritis and anxiety. Request an EKG if you havent already to know for sure.
    If you had numbness in your arm since 2005 and it was stroke or heart related, you'd already have the stroke or heart attack YEARS ago.
     Also, marathons on the computer will develop numbness and pain from the elbow anywhere to the finger tips.  Your trigger finger and corpal tendons get inflammed from repititive motion and shooting pain, tingling, and numbness will last for a few days.

    I think Enigma is onto something here.  Could definitely be a minor discomforture that sets off a panic attack.  If they find nothing on an EKG, then talk to someone about panic attacks.  Do some research.  You'll be fine.  You're young, and your body is capable of handling a lot.  You'll learn to cope with it like my grandfather did.  He had them from an early age, and they were from worrying about his health, and a fear of death.  

    - LC

  • LaserwolfLaserwolf Member Posts: 2,383

    I know this doesn't really address the numbness but I was woken up a few months ago at around 3am with severe chest pain. I'm only 24 but I have high blood pressure and an extreme family history of heart issues. Even at my age I was really worried about what the hell was going on. I couldn't sleep though it so all I could do was try to wait it out. It finally faded out completely around 7-8 am on my way to work. I came close to heading for the hospital but a little internet research(not the smart thing to do I know) and the fact that I was missing some key symptoms led me to believe(or hope) it was something similar. Turns out it was just a really bad case of acid reflux. I'm absolutely positive it came from a can of chipotle peppers I had earlier that day.

    Again, it doesn't explain the numbness, but I know the pain made me dizzy, nauseous, and the pain was all in the upper left chest area.

    I had it twice as bad a couple of weeks ago too(the doubled-over/can't breathe kind of bad). You might read up on acid reflux. The second time I knew what it was from experience and I could taste the acid, but the first time there were none of the signs of casual heartburn. Just major pain.

    My first advice would be to see a doctor but obviously the problem is that they are not helping. If you feel it could be some sort of acid reflux issue try cutting down on tomatoes or tomato sauce, chocolate, and the real spicy stuff of course. Apparently a little fennel or its cousin licorice root will prevent problems too.

     

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  • EnkinduEnkindu Member Posts: 1,098

    John-

    Sorry to hear about your medical issues.  I know how frustrating the lack of a diagnosis can be.  Unfortunately no medical professional can diagnose or offer real medical advice over the internet.

    If your symptoms are worrying you enough to post a question here then you really should see a physician. In today's medical system you are going to have to probably be persistent to get a full evaluation, but until you have satisfactory answers to your questions these symptoms are probably going to keep worrying you.

    Do you have a primary care doctor (internal medicine or family practice) that you have a good relationship with? That would probably be a good place to start.  You will need someone willing to sit down and complete a full history and physical, and preferably someone willing to follow up on your care.

    If these acute episodes are worrying you a great deal and there is no chance to schedule a timely appoint ment your best bet may be to go to the ER so you can be evaluated while the symptoms are active.

    Don't get discouraged- in our current system you really do have take ownership of your own health problems.  Good luck and best wishes.

    deviliscious: (PS. I have been told that when I use scientific language, it does not make me sound more intelligent, it only makes me sound like a jackass. It makes me appear that I am not knowledgable enough in the subject I am discussing to be able to translate it for people outside the field to understand. Some advice you might consider as well)

  • bluesessionbluesession Member Posts: 202

    Hi, I can't really tell you what you have either. But I suffer from neck pains due to pending so many years playing pc.

     

    Sometimes, I spent months playing most day and not doing much activity, and after that I would have neck pains.

    Maybe since it first triggered after a MMO marathon the thing that brings you this pain is tied with the position you sit in front of the PC.

     

    Weightlifting is not the best excercise to relive pain in the body. I won't do you harm either, but It's most likely that it won't stop the pain. I would recomend you to try

    Yoga or Tai-chi. It will help you relax, it will help you learn poses that will rearange your body into being less sore, or sore-less :P

    As others said, this doesn't sound like you are going to die, It's probably just a bad habbits ache, like many people have when they are age 40 and above, the diference is you care. :P (I care for pains too :P) The point is, this is probably something really stupid you don't notice, a bad habbit, like eating your nails.

     

    Also, I will really recomend you for a more short term solution, Look for a good masager, or even better, someone who does acupressure.

    (acupressure is like a masage, no needles involved, just pressing energy points to stimulate your muscles and make your blood flow better, I'm pretty sure that if what you have is a sore nerve, Accupresure will help you.)

     

     EDIT: Oh, and this things suck, I mean, when you get some really bad ache and can't find I way to cure it.

    But take heart, and have hope, once you have cured it you will probably be a better you. And you will have learned about yourself a little. In the mean time just take deepbreaths and take it with objectivity, it helps.

     

  • vonkeitzvonkeitz Member Posts: 166

    why dont you have a second opinion? so you'll know if you have illness or what

  • goneglockingoneglockin Member UncommonPosts: 706

    If you go get a second opinion- maybe neglect to mention the numbness in your pinky.  Numbness in the digits in someone your age is written off almost automatically as anxiety or a panic attack... which it could be... but at least they'll take you seriously and see if there really is something wrong with you.

    Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.

  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356
    Originally posted by John.A.Zoid


    I keep fit and weight lift and run and I eat healthy and I don't smoke and yet I constantly have pains in my chest and I suddenly get my little finger on my left hand go numb and then I feel dizzy and then the sickness comes and the pains in my chest get worse. This will last all through the night like it is now and then it goes in the morning and I can finally sleep. If I get up and run about it doesn't go away but it takes my mind off it and then it's not so bad but if I lay in bed and try to go to sleep then it hurts alot more.



    I've had this on and off ever since 2005 and frigging I go to my doctor and they say my blood pressure is fine and I'm fine and they send me home. I've constantly asked for an answer cause it fucking scares you when it happens and really hurts all night long.
    It's like is it all in my mind or what? Am I going nuts? I know my Grandad has had 2 heart attacks and my Dad has had one heart attack and my Great Grandad died of a heart disease or whatever. It's like there has to be something to it and you tlel the doctors this and they just throw you out saying you're fine!



     

    It may not be a heart attack, however your heart may not be operating properly. The doctors may be looking for the wrong thing.

    My daughter's blood pressure is fine, but she can have a problem with her heart after exercise. We discovered it after a soccer game, and had her checked out. We went down to a hospital, and they hooked her up on some sort of medical monitor, and could tell the heart was not functioning properly. Her condition is not uncommon, and now that she is aware of it, she has to monitor her activity level. That doesn't mean no sports, just knowing her limit.

    Not to scare you any more than you currently are, but there have been some kids that have ignored the symptoms, such as while playing basketball, who have dropped dead on the court.

    A hospital is better equipped to diagnose the problem then a family practicioner's office, mostly because they have the equipment. Talk to your doctor about which hospital he would recommend you too for further tests.

    On a side note, my niece, and my brother in law, have a hole between two chambers of the heart. Once again, not uncommon, but you have to know whether you have this problem in order to address your situation properly. My niece had surgery to close the hole before she was one year old. My brother in law still lives with it, but watches what he does very carefully.

  • nywlanasnywlanas Member Posts: 334

    Have an executive check up...If all are clear, then use any diversional tactics whenever you experience the symptoms..maybe it is only psychological...

  • John.A.ZoidJohn.A.Zoid Member Posts: 1,531

    Ah man acid reflux seems reasonable and fits alot of symptoms, is there any household treatment that cud help that?

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by John.A.Zoid


    Ah man acid reflux seems reasonable and fits alot of symptoms, is there any household treatment that cud help that?



     

    Prilosec. Over the counter medication.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • EnkinduEnkindu Member Posts: 1,098

    John-

    Taking medical advice from people on a gaming forum is not going to get you any closer to proper diagnosis and treatment.

    Go see a physician. Tell them about ALL of your symptoms.  Do not "minimize" your problems when talking to the doctor- almost all patients do this. You write here that it is scary enough to keep you up all night, but then you might tell your doctor "yeah, I had a little discomfort." It is a natural thing to do, especially for men in our culture, but it REALLY makes it hard for the health care provider to properly evaluate your condition.

    Here's the important thing: you have to tell the physician "look, this is really impacting my quality of life.. please help me figure out what's going on, and specifically please help me rule out any serious medical conditions for my peace of mind."

    If you tell the physician the same thing that you typed in your original post here I ASSURE you they will do more than take your blood pressure. Hell, print out your OP and use it for notes when you go see the doc.

    This bears repeating: don't get medical advice from an online gaming forum! GO SEE A DOCTOR. All you are going to get here is advice based on anecdotal evidence.

    Good luck and best wishes.

    Enk

     

    deviliscious: (PS. I have been told that when I use scientific language, it does not make me sound more intelligent, it only makes me sound like a jackass. It makes me appear that I am not knowledgable enough in the subject I am discussing to be able to translate it for people outside the field to understand. Some advice you might consider as well)

  • My pharmacist compatriot told me that these symptoms often point to anxiety, even the numb finger. I must caution you as she cautioned me that this is no substitute for good personal medical advice. While it might be as simple to deal with as anxiety, it might be something worse. Basically, be concerned but try to stay calm.



    You really need to see a doctor, and be insistent that you have a problem. Sometimes doctors can be dismissive, so you need to be very firm. As Enkindu said, don't downplay anything, tell the doctor exactly what you're feeling and why you're so worried. Don't take any 'you'll be fine' for an answer.



    I hope it's nothing too serious.

  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902

    definitely find another doctor and get a second opinion.  I dont think its hiatal hernia (or acid reflux), I have that and you have none of the symptoms aside from chest pain.  However your chest pain isnt associated or accompanied by anything that is like a hiatal hernia.  I have pains but theyre in my back.. around the location where stomach meets throat.

    find another doctor

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  • KizionKizion Member Posts: 45

    You should do a X-ray examination of your chest first, doctor will help you with this.  There are lots of reasons might cause the chest pain and could be minor or serious.   To find out the root is foremost thing.

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