Kinda really want to play...Some info?

DanaDark · April 2009

Okay, so EVE is pretty much one of the only games to always make me ponder playing it every time I hear about it. Which says a lot. As well, I've tried the free trials twice now. Years ago though. So, I am downloading the client, and thinking of sub'ing for a month and giving it another go. So, I'd like some information if any of you could...

1. Show me some screen shots of decent ship appearences if you could? Try to impress me with something beautiful so I dont go in thinking everything looks like junk.

2. I know PvP is highly focused on in the game, which I do poorly in PvP... too big of a heart, feel bad any time I attack someone for no seemingly decent reason... that being sad, I dont mind playing a back up roll for those that do (Think of like a healer in a PvP group). Is that a viable option with the logistics ships or any other ships?

3. I full expect anyone that has played longer than me to always win me at anything and everything no matter what. Without trying to say "Well, it's possible that..." or "In theory..." etc, be honest, am I right? I don't mind it so much so long as some of those older peeps are on MY side >.>

4. Your WORST experience in the game. What made you nearly leave forever?

5. Your BEST experience in the game. What made you want to shed some tears and say "I love you..." and then hug the monitor?

So yeah, sorry for the questions, but things like this keep me going!

Xennith · April 2009

Originally posted by DanaDark
1. Show me some screen shots of decent ship appearences if you could? Try to impress me with something beautiful so I dont go in thinking everything looks like junk.

http://eveart.l3ds.com/pics/Caldari/Wyvern1680x1050.jpg
http://eveart.l3ds.com/pics/Caldari/Charon1280x800.jpg
http://eveart.l3ds.com/pics/Caldari/Rokh1280x800.jpg
http://eveart.l3ds.com/pics/Caldari/Cormorant1280x800.jpg

2. I know PvP is highly focused on in the game, which I do poorly in PvP... too big of a heart, feel bad any time I attack someone for no seemingly decent reason... that being sad, I dont mind playing a back up roll for those that do (Think of like a healer in a PvP group). Is that a viable option with the logistics ships or any other ships?

yes, recons, blackops, covops, logistics, carriers are all support ships, as are interdictors, hictordictors, ceptors, etc, but in a very "eve" kind of way that isnt found in other games. eve is the only game to have tackle as far as i know.

3. I full expect anyone that has played longer than me to always win me at anything and everything no matter what. Without trying to say "Well, it's possible that..." or "In theory..." etc, be honest, am I right? I don't mind it so much so long as some of those older peeps are on MY side >.>

this is wrong. you are not right. if you ever played planetside consider skillpoints like cert points, you get more options but they dont make you invincible, skillpoints are not levels, your ship and your fit and your ability to fly it matter so much more than skillpoints, a newbie in a rifter who listens to the fc or reads guides is so much better than a veteran who refuses to listen or doesnt have a clue, no matter what ship he flies.

4. Your WORST experience in the game. What made you nearly leave forever?

i DID quit as a newbie after i jumped my heavy missile fitted uninsured raven into a lowsec gatecamp. i was gutted, i was using it to run level 3 missions.

5. Your BEST experience in the game. What made you want to shed some tears and say "I love you..." and then hug the monitor?

getting the same guy in an orca on the same gate twice in two days and -because im a roleplayer- rejecting his pleas for a ransom in character. wonderful.

DanaDark · April 2009

Wanted to say thank you for replying with that information.

I have another little question. I've heard that different ships perform different roles on the battlefield and such, but is this like really truly viable? Think of those games where there's diversity in unit types, but there's always that one unit you can mass produce and it hands down can defeat everything else anyway, making the diversity pointless.

I think I just might go ahead and re-sub for a month, only 10 bucks to reactivate so might be worth a shot.

Xennith · April 2009

the relationship between the various ships in eve is complex, but one very reliable rule is that there is no "best" ship, there are ships that are better than others for various different circumstances, but no one ship does it all, flying one ship means you are weak in a certain area and while clever flying and preparation can minimise this effect, if you run up against someone set up to and capable of exploiting your weakness you are in trouble.

its like scissors/rock/paper/handgrenade/jelly/atomic bomb

Enkindu · April 2009

Dana, look me up in game.

I'm a white hat.. I never pirate, never scam. Like to help new people.

Eve is great for me because I find "doing the right thing" in a world where that represents a (truly difficult) choice is very rewarding.

As far as ship aesthetics, dunno what to tell you. Heck I even like the way the dominix looks, and that's basically an upside down brown shoe in space.

DanaDark · April 2009

Sounds pretty good to me. I am not one that always wants "the best ship" out there. As I had mentioned before, I am not one for toe-to-toe PvP since Im a giant softie >.> But when I see their explosions in a distance as a support ship, its like nobody is really blowing up....

X-Porter · April 2009

Dana, I read in another thread here that you don't like the look of a lot of the ships because they are asymmetrical. Fair enough, there are quite a few I've had to look at and go "...Wha?". I still don't know what the guy who designed the Rupture was thinking...

But if you like symmetrical ships with cleaner lines, look at some of the Amarr stuff. Their ships are pretty slick, especially on the Premium client.

Hope you find something you like.

Lordmonkus · April 2009

Originally posted by DanaDark

Okay, so EVE is pretty much one of the only games to always make me ponder playing it every time I hear about it. Which says a lot. As well, I've tried the free trials twice now. Years ago though. So, I am downloading the client, and thinking of sub'ing for a month and giving it another go. So, I'd like some information if any of you could...
1. Show me some screen shots of decent ship appearences if you could? Try to impress me with something beautiful so I dont go in thinking everything looks like junk.
www.eveonlineships.com/ Lots of great screenshots of each ship in the game.
2. I know PvP is highly focused on in the game, which I do poorly in PvP... too big of a heart, feel bad any time I attack someone for no seemingly decent reason... that being sad, I dont mind playing a back up roll for those that do (Think of like a healer in a PvP group). Is that a viable option with the logistics ships or any other ships?
Yes, logistics ships are a very viable role for those looking to provide the 'healer' in groups.
3. I full expect anyone that has played longer than me to always win me at anything and everything no matter what. Without trying to say "Well, it's possible that..." or "In theory..." etc, be honest, am I right? I don't mind it so much so long as some of those older peeps are on MY side >.>
As you get more pvp experience you will find that it's not your ship or character skills that make the difference between death and survival but your skills as a player that make the difference.
4. Your WORST experience in the game. What made you nearly leave forever?
Mining back in beta nearly destroyed the game for me. Fortunately at release I bought the game and decided to never mine another roid again.
5. Your BEST experience in the game. What made you want to shed some tears and say "I love you..." and then hug the monitor?
You know it's not so much what Eve does to make love it but what every other game does so wrong that makes me appreciate Eve so much more.
So yeah, sorry for the questions, but things like this keep me going!
Questions are fine. The Eve community gets a bad rep for being elitist pricks but those people that say that tend to come to us with the attitude first. But those that come in open and willing to learn the game instead of bitching about it will find they get lots of help.

Feel free to ask away.
Welcome to Eve.

Ekibiogami · April 2009

Originally posted by Lordmonkus

Originally posted by DanaDark

So yeah, sorry for the questions, but things like this keep me going!
Questions are fine. The Eve community gets a bad rep for being elitist pricks but those people that say that tend to come to us with the attitude first. But those that come in open and willing to learn the game instead of bitching about it will find they get lots of help.

Feel free to ask away.
Welcome to Eve.

Lets Be fair :P

If you ask nicely and W/O Contempt for Our Belovid game we are Nice. If you Ask Badly we will Decend like a pack of Rabid Dogs :P

and I agree with everything above.

Oh and Best moment was geting my Freighter.

Worst was Getting jumped in Lowsec by a pirate and a friend looseing a battleship.

darkraptor · April 2009

Originally posted by DanaDark

Okay, so EVE is pretty much one of the only games to always make me ponder playing it every time I hear about it. Which says a lot. As well, I've tried the free trials twice now. Years ago though. So, I am downloading the client, and thinking of sub'ing for a month and giving it another go. So, I'd like some information if any of you could...
1. Show me some screen shots of decent ship appearences if you could? Try to impress me with something beautiful so I dont go in thinking everything looks like junk.
Screenshots? image search on google shows plenty the game does look pretty good, make sure you have an alright machine to run it (at least like an 8800/amdati 3x series if possible)
2. I know PvP is highly focused on in the game, which I do poorly in PvP... too big of a heart, feel bad any time I attack someone for no seemingly decent reason... that being sad, I dont mind playing a back up roll for those that do (Think of like a healer in a PvP group). Is that a viable option with the logistics ships or any other ships?
Logistics is one part of shipwork, another are recon ships, another are stealth bombers, another are heavy assault cruisers, another are interceptors. They all have their own roles and fit in whether small fleet battles or large.
3. I full expect anyone that has played longer than me to always win me at anything and everything no matter what. Without trying to say "Well, it's possible that..." or "In theory..." etc, be honest, am I right? I don't mind it so much so long as some of those older peeps are on MY side >.>
No, you are wrong. Eve is 100% about numbers. A fleet of interceptors (10ish) is pretty much unstoppable just as much as a fleet of xyz would be versus less people, in SMALL scale pvp if well organized. In large scale PVP, its more about knowing what you're doing and following orders well. Organization is just as key as minimizing losses.
4. Your WORST experience in the game. What made you nearly leave forever?
People do quit. Often because they get caught by griefers (can flippers), ninja salvage, or war decs. These are 3 parts of eve politics that WILL happen to you and if you don't know how to handle it, you're not going to succeed and probably will quit/not have fun. Oh, and you cannot be stupid. This game does have some real intelligence requirements. Also eve = internet spaceships = infinite drama. This is like wow drama x 1000, and it's entertaining but just as much makes you want to facepalm. Remember, everyone is on 1 server, and you only have 1 char that is your "main" per account. So it's not like you can just pick up and leave if you earn a bad reputation.
Essentially, our worst was our first war declaration, where we had to learn how to not be a war target and how to not lose ships, and how to grief a griefer in order to make them drop a war dec. People are good at psychological warfare. War decs can last forever if people keep paying, and guess what? We made it so miserable that they dropped the war dec in 2 weeks, and blew up some battleships and flipped the tables on them where they were trying to avoid us. Basically, we learned to be a cohesive corporation and fleet through that. Trial by fire. Meanwhile, we were busy having fun ratting in 00 making more money than we did in secure space.
5. Your BEST experience in the game. What made you want to shed some tears and say "I love you..." and then hug the monitor?
My first time with an interceptor and realizing just how fast and how powerful they are in the role that they fit (tacklers), is just impressive beyond all measure to me. I mean they're so fast, and inexpensive, so they are throwaway but fit their role extremely well.
So yeah, sorry for the questions, but things like this keep me going!

If you have questions, seek me out in game (see signature and convo me on xfire or in eve - same name, and I'll show you just how intricate/complex this game is). That or PM me your email, and I'll throw you the eve add a buddy thing (21 day trial)

APRAurore · April 2009

If you don't like junky-looking ships, keep away from the Minmatar ships. They look like they're being held together by duct tape.

I think a lot of the Gallente ships are pretty slick-looking. Some of them remind me of sports cars though they tend not to be the fastest ships in the game (Minmatar ones usually are). I think the Megathron is a gorgeous ship, and I like how a lot of the Gallente frigates look: Incursus/Enyo/Ishkur for example. The Tristan looks like a flower. Caldari ships are too boxy-looking in my opinion, though the Ferox looks cool.

Despite Gallente ships looking cool, they do have one of the ugliest ships in the game: the Dominix. However, it's such a good ship... it's a pregnant mama drone ship...

Someguynamed · April 2009

To the OP:

If you want to get an idea of what high-end PvP is like, you should check out this video:

x_rast_x · April 2009

Originally posted by DanaDark

Okay, so EVE is pretty much one of the only games to always make me ponder playing it every time I hear about it. Which says a lot. As well, I've tried the free trials twice now. Years ago though. So, I am downloading the client, and thinking of sub'ing for a month and giving it another go. So, I'd like some information if any of you could...
1. Show me some screen shots of decent ship appearences if you could? Try to impress me with something beautiful so I dont go in thinking everything looks like junk.
I don't do screenshots, sorry.
2. I know PvP is highly focused on in the game, which I do poorly in PvP... too big of a heart, feel bad any time I attack someone for no seemingly decent reason... that being sad, I dont mind playing a back up roll for those that do (Think of like a healer in a PvP group). Is that a viable option with the logistics ships or any other ships?
EvE has roles just like every other MMO, they're just a lot more loosly defined and open ended. Sure, you can take on a support role if you like.
3. I full expect anyone that has played longer than me to always win me at anything and everything no matter what. Without trying to say "Well, it's possible that..." or "In theory..." etc, be honest, am I right? I don't mind it so much so long as some of those older peeps are on MY side >.>
This is one of my corpmates. His character is a little over two months old and he's an honest-to-god rookie. And as I told him yesterday, I'm now using him as my new 'I can't ever compete with vets' poster child.
4. Your WORST experience in the game. What made you nearly leave forever?
No 'invert mouse' option. Getting my ore stolen in highsec and being too scared to do anything about. Of course, once I *did* do something about it I had tons of fun.
5. Your BEST experience in the game. What made you want to shed some tears and say "I love you..." and then hug the monitor?
After QR made AFs good again, fighting a Myrmidon in an Ishkur (with a tech one fitted Arbitrator supporting me), and winning after a really long, really close fight. Only time I've ever run out of cap boosters. The very first time I fought a can flipper (back in my mining days), and since I was smart and not an idiot I won and had one of those mindblowing 'I see how this works now!' moments.
So yeah, sorry for the questions, but things like this keep me going!

tvalentine · April 2009

Originally posted by DanaDark

3. I full expect anyone that has played longer than me to always win me at anything and everything no matter what. Without trying to say "Well, it's possible that..." or "In theory..." etc, be honest, am I right? I don't mind it so much so long as some of those older peeps are on MY side >.>
this is true imo. I've been playing for about 3 months, and from what i have learned is..... if you go up against a hurricane, who's pilot is 4 years old, with a hurricane of your own (when you're only 3 months old) odds are you are going to lose. He is going to be moving faster, doing more dmg, have more range, and possibly have overheating and that doesnt include his knowledge/expirience of how to fight as well. Thus is why you should pick your targets more carefully. Although since you want to be on the logistics side of things, i have a feeling you're going to be a fleet for most of your eve career, and so you really shouldnt worry about it.

i only answered this question because the rest had good answers earlier in the thread.

Shiftless · April 2009

Originally posted by DanaDark

Okay, so EVE is pretty much one of the only games to always make me ponder playing it every time I hear about it. Which says a lot. As well, I've tried the free trials twice now. Years ago though. So, I am downloading the client, and thinking of sub'ing for a month and giving it another go. So, I'd like some information if any of you could...
1. Show me some screen shots of decent ship appearences if you could? Try to impress me with something beautiful so I dont go in thinking everything looks like junk.
2. I know PvP is highly focused on in the game, which I do poorly in PvP... too big of a heart, feel bad any time I attack someone for no seemingly decent reason... that being sad, I dont mind playing a back up roll for those that do (Think of like a healer in a PvP group). Is that a viable option with the logistics ships or any other ships?
3. I full expect anyone that has played longer than me to always win me at anything and everything no matter what. Without trying to say "Well, it's possible that..." or "In theory..." etc, be honest, am I right? I don't mind it so much so long as some of those older peeps are on MY side >.>
4. Your WORST experience in the game. What made you nearly leave forever?
5. Your BEST experience in the game. What made you want to shed some tears and say "I love you..." and then hug the monitor?
So yeah, sorry for the questions, but things like this keep me going!

1. www.eveonlineships.com/eve-online-ship.php

If that link works, it is quite possibly the sexiest ship in game. If not, look in the Faction Ships section for the Nightmare. It will take a good long bit to skill for, and will set you back right around 1 billion isk to buy one unfitted and unrigged, but there is something to be said for getting Doomsdayed in one, and undocking another like it's no big deal.

2. PVP is a big focus on the game. Without PVP the rest of the game mechanics wouldn't work as well (pvp causes a need for ships which causes a need for industry and mining). Yes, logistics ships are useful in PVP, but rarely in small gang or solo play. That being said, you "dont" have to PVP, but you will eventually be attacked by someone, and you might lose a lot of time and effort in the process. But, I've seen it 100 times. The little miner get his Hulk ganked and the next thing you know he's running around with the roaming fleets in an Interceptor. The rush of small fleet PVP is a rush, and is quite addicting.

3. Within six months of specializing your skill plan, and working towards a set goal, you could be just as good as everyone else at the thing you're specialized in. From that point, you can specialize in something else. Then there's alts. If you can make enough isk to run a second account w/o paying the cash, things like generating cynos to move your capitals to hauling your own ore w/o stopping the mining lasers becomes infinitely easier.

4. Having a good third of EVE come crashing down on the Alliance I work for, to chose to defend someone else while we did it, and have them just give up and let us get stomped all over. But, we got bigger and better friends in the long run, so it all worked out. Was a really sad time, and I managed to lose over 12 billion isk in the process. Still workin' on that.

5. My first Capital Hotdrop (suprise attack). I got my carrier and our Alliance Leader and Fleet Commander was all "NOOB-Drop" and we dropped twenty capitals on a lone battleship pilot. Was all laughs in the end. Well... For us anyways. He was pretty pissed.

darkraptor · April 2009

Originally posted by APRAurore

If you don't like junky-looking ships, keep away from the Minmatar ships. They look like they're being held together by duct tape = lies

lets not start that crap in here, please. Minmatar ships are the best at their roles and pilots who know what they're doing quite intentionally fly minmatar (especially due tot he stealth bomber changes).

They are faster than everyone else, and for that role they excel (it's nice to have battlecruisers that even rigged up fly faster than other race's cruisers). Doesn't mean they fit every possible role, and no race does.

Xennith · April 2009

in rust we trust!

DanaDark · April 2009

Hey, no arguing in my thread >.> he he.

Anyway, I decided to reactivate my very old account, which was last played 2.5 years ago (for like a month only). I discovered I had a Caladari with 3mil ISK... but wasnt too sure if I wanted to continue playing as one. So, made a char (Declan Dark) and shuffled over the ISK and decided to buy the learning skills, and been pumping those into him. Oh, he's a Gallant or however they were spelled.

Every time I've tried out EVE, the beginning set up for the characters has been different... kinda odd, but I suppose okay. This time I didnt get an option to put any stat points anywhere, just choose background stuff, which I managed to come out with 8 in all my stats, except 7 in one of them, forget which one.

So yeah, while I am busy with IRL stuff, got my guy training his learning skills and stat skills so he can learn everything else faster... the advanced skills at 4.5mil isk each are crazy expensive he he, will be a long time till I get those.

Anyway, send me an email in the game, I need some friends, allies, buddies, big brothers/sisters... etc.

Xennith · April 2009

try to avoid just training learning skills, you get bored of those quickly, ive added you to buddy list, ill say hi if i see you online.

DonTrump · April 2009

Originally posted by DanaDark

2. I know PvP is highly focused on in the game, which I do poorly in PvP... too big of a heart, feel bad any time I attack someone for no seemingly decent reason... that being sad, I dont mind playing a back up roll for those that do (Think of like a healer in a PvP group). Is that a viable option with the logistics ships or any other ships?
I am same way but have managed to kill lots of ships.
3. I full expect anyone that has played longer than me to always win me at anything and everything no matter what. Without trying to say "Well, it's possible that..." or "In theory..." etc, be honest, am I right? I don't mind it so much so long as some of those older peeps are on MY side >.>
I have been playing 5 years and still fear some SMART nubs.
4. Your WORST experience in the game. What made you nearly leave forever?
Never happened.....
5. Your BEST experience in the game. What made you want to shed some tears and say "I love you..." and then hug the monitor?
No single event, but I have made some life long type friends.
So yeah, sorry for the questions, but things like this keep me going!

haust · April 2009

Join Eve University best thing I ever did in eve. Lots of helpful people, who are willing to teach classes to anyone who wants to learn the finer parts of EVE. They are in constant war at the moment so if you want some PvP expereince it'll do you well. If not, they have an option for you as well. Check them out, there are a lot of people who can help you figure it out.

gbooster · April 2009

Originally posted by Someguynamed

To the OP:
If you want to get an idea of what high-end PvP is like, you should check out this video:

LOL

"MORE BUBBLES!!! MORE BUBBLES!!! I NEED THAT BUBBLE AWAY FROM US!!! I NEED THAT BUBBLE AWAY FROM US!!! KEEP THAT BUBBLE AWAY!!! KEEP THAT BUBBLE AWAY!! MORE BUBBLES!!! BUBBLE THE ARCHON!!! SPLIT 56 THE ARCHON NEEDS JAMMED!!! SPLIT 56 THE ARCHON NEEDS JAMMED SPLIT 56 THE ARCHON NEEDS JAMMED!! MORE BUBBLES!!....

STRUCTURE!!!! STRUCTURE!!! (choking noises)

MORE BUBBLES!! MORE BUBBLES!!

tvalentine · April 2009

Originally posted by Someguynamed

To the OP:
If you want to get an idea of what high-end PvP is like, you should check out this video:

lol good kill, but that guy who was shouting sounded like a mouth breather. What happened to staying calm under pressure?

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