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NVIDIA, the way its meant to be played?
unpoet
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More like, The way its meant to advertised.
Well ive heard of a fair many people running out and buying say, a geforce4 mx 400 after seeing that shiney nvdia logo. Just wondering how many people have bought into this, thinking there is some kind of advantage to running an nvidia card. Im a little sick of seeing this logo all over the place myself, nvidia seems to be throwing lots of marketing money around.
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Well, ATI does quite a lot of advertising also. They have "exclusive" advertising on some games too. Half Life 2 comes to mind...
It's a free market, they are allowed to advertise.
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the geforce4 mx series is a very old series of cards... i just upgraded to a radeon x700 pci-e. it is doubtful that geforce4mx can run WoW smoothly, especially during big battles, i suggest at least a fx4200 for WoW...
While Nvidia does appear to have many ties to gaming companies......
It also seems that many games offer better support for Nvidia cards than other comparable graphics cards. Its definitely all about money but what isnt these days?
Incidently I play WOW on a ATI radeon 9700 pro 128mb graphics card and a gig of RAM and it runs beautifully. So obviously a Nvidia card is not required. I do really like that 6800 they just put out though. If it werent $400 I might have considered getting one.
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I will never be buying ATI again. The 9600XT does not work on my Asusu a7v600kt mobo.
The driver are not right, always crashes. On my nvidia card, everythign works perfect. A am forced to play on geforce 3, but that should be ok.
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yeah, both parties are guilty of their own issues and both are good companies to buy from. For every bad experience from one, another has a bad experience with the other. It really used to be simple, before the 9700's came out. You would buy nvidia if you wanted performance and driver stability. When ATi released their 9700 PRO's and the CATALYST drivers, things changed. Now, you get what you want. I currently have a 9700 but I'm not a fanboi of ATi or nvidia. I'd get whatever was the best bang for my buck.
Now, is there any truth in advertising as mentioned? I don't think any serious game developer would release a game that could excluded aproximately half the market. I know UT2k4 had the nvidia logo splash at launch, but it ran great on my ATi, so who knows. I imagine HL2 looks splendiferous on the latest and greatest nvidia product although ATi had some apparent tie-in with HL2.
Screenshots and videos are necessary for first impressions, but what you can't see in them are the things that matter the most.
so...
Hehe, Well, I have been running a ATI 9500 Pro 128mb Video card (8x agp ) for about a year now I guess, and havent had one single problem out of it.
Also, Yes, Nvidia is more like, the way its meant to be advertised. Yes, I do see ATI flashing their ads out and about, but not as flashy as Nvidia does.
Also, for the Advertisement on Half-Life 2, the ATI logo is incredibly small and only seen on one spot on the box, which is the very back of the box at the bottom and the logo is roughly 3/8ths of an inch by 1/4 of an inch. Pretty small
But overall, All you really need to do is go out and buy a 128 MB video card and it will last you for years and years. Going out and buying a 500 dollar video card and having 256 mb of memory is rediculously silly. Not to mention, Your motherboard and monitor may depend on how well you view your output based on the Refresh rate of the monitor and if the motherboard even supports 8X AGP which I hope it does!
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Not to mention, Your motherboard and monitor may depend on how well you view your output based on the Refresh rate of the monitor and if the motherboard even supports 8X AGP which I hope it does!
From what I've read, most motherboards will take 8X AGP but only use about 5X. So if your MB only supports a 4X AGP, you aren't losing that much. Wait until you can purchase a PCI-Express MB so you can buy the equivalent videocard. That's a much wiser purchase.
Well, Im not trying to be offensive in any way but you should really try not to be mislead by shiny things and grow some sense or perhaps logic?
Everyone knows that MX is a budget version of GeForce, and If honestly believe your talking about your own stupidity that you actually bought and whilst believing a MX card would be good due to it being a product from nvidia.
And now your frustrated.
Just ask someone for advice when buying a gfxcard and both nvidia and ati have great gfxcards, the only thing is finding out what fits your own budget that's the best and don't buy any "budget versions" of anything, especially for consoles... like gamepads.
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Heaven forbid a company advertises their product whenever the oppurtunity is there : /. Any smart business will do as much advertising as their budget allows them. And btw I have a ATI 9700 pro atm, it funs the game fine, its just insane to think companies shouldn't be allowed to advertise freely : /
Even tho i have nvidia card I envy ATI card owners. Some of ATI cards are whoopass.
I got my card because it was cheap and i was strapped for cash at the time....
Ultra 5950FX 128mb. Not a bad card.
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I was all for Nvidias and hated ATIs but after seeing the benchmarks of the ATI x800 XT compared to the nvidia series and the fact that its PCIe made me buy one :O
Now I hope I did the right choice lol, just gotta wait 2 weeks for pc to arrive -_-
ya im an ATI fan =P have had a 9700pro for like 2 years now and it lets me run WoW at 1600x1200 4xaa 16x AF smoothly. I Find Nvidia's "way its meant to be played" campaign to be far more missleading then ATI's answer, "get in the game". Of course nvidias has always been far more aggressive when it comes advertising and helped them become number one in sales in the past. Recently ATI took first place away them as far as sales go, but its pretty close. In the end, this only means faster video cards are cheapers prices so its hard to complain too much.
Dont know what test some have seen but in most benchmarks if you look at price performents the nvidia 6800gt 256mb is one of best on market at the moment blow all cards away on 1024 settings and most still are on that settings wow looks good at that settings.
In most benchmarks 6800gt 256mb beats all cards with max settings on 1248 max in most games the radeon 800pro no match for 6800gt,it beats even his bigger brother in that series.
I have radeon 9800pro still good i gues hehe
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/index.html
That will give you a general run down, in some tests nvidia is better and others, ATI. You cant really pick an overall winner because it varies with differnt games. As for whats better in WoW? i would love to see it benchmarked.
Really?? .. I have a 9800pro 128 and I get choppy graphics at 1024x768 4xaa when I am in places like Ogrimmar or the undercity... I'm running this on a athlon 64 3200.
Could it be because I only have 512 of ram and a not so recent hard drive (ATA100 7200rpm)?
I updated all my drivers (BIOS graphics card etc...) and defragged my hard drive ... but it still persists.
I don't mind so much now because it is relatively stable in most areas of the world but I am about to get a 19inch monitor and I am a little weary about switching to 1600x1200.
Any comments/Advice?
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Is ignorance actually bliss? you would know.. ATI uses a lesser core technology (24bit). Nvidia is technically a better card just due to the 32bit base technology that even ATI admits they will have to upgrade to. The heavier marketing goes to ATI , convincing all the ignorants run out and buy one. Why do you think ATI always has all these ridiculous software tweaks and enhancements? And nvidia doesn't? Because, nvidia cards don't need it, they come ready to rock right out the box.
Anyway if you are lookin for top notch video Nvidia just released the 6600gt for agp (This is an excellent budget top o' the line type card - $230ish right now - check out newegg.com). If you just have a ridiculous amount of money on hand you can buy the Nvidia's 6800 - now this is a sweet card ($400ish+). Although they prolly have an even newer one out already.
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pure ignorance (I don't mean it in a bad way but, I mean it).
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actually, most if not all of the games that have the logo are enchanced for nvidia architecture, for example doom3 runs much better on nvidia, and there is a patch for ati users to enjoy the game is plausible framerates
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Yeah this is why nvidia has one set of universal drivers for all their cards... because games are built around Nvidia so it all works great. Games are not built around ATI cards and thus they need to do a lot more patching etc to get everything to work right. If you want a card that you wont need to worry about, you want an Nvidia card.