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Nows the time to start playing Vanguard
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After reading through these forums for a bit, I noticed that a majority of the threads and posts are negative. I think right now would be the best time to start playing Vanguard, honestly. The population is rising quite quickly. You could get in on the ground floor, and be one of the top tier players before many others start playing.
SOE doesn't have a re-release planned any time soon, and for those of you who are currently playing Vanguard, it is up to the players and fansites to get the word out there. Yes, SOE is quite terrible, but this game is not. If the game was released in the current condition it is in now, it would have been as big as everyone thought it was going to be.
Go download the Isle of Dawn trial http://vanguard.station.sony.com/isleofdawn/ and try it out if you haven't. I don't want to see anyone post here saying the game is terrible if you haven't tried it within the last month or so. Bandwagon flames will just be outright ignored (those of you who have never played it and think you're pretty cool posting trash about it.
And for those of you who ARE playing, I'm just wondering what you have done to help promote the game? Its too bad it got such a bad rap, because people are missing out on a lot of fun.
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I completely agree with the op, this game is on the up and up, and of all times now. I recently downloaded the trial and this game is everything i expected it to be when it first launched. There are plenty of new people in game, and it is such a blast. I think anyone looking for a new mmorpg should definetely give this a try. The only problem I have with this game atm is a slight framerate issue, which only happens every few minutes, and my system should be completely fine running this on high settings, probably just the client. But the game is great, crafting is fun, diplomacy is a blast, and the population is on the rise. Check out any of the servers but so far the server Xeth (I believe) has a good population.
Playing:Vanguard, Firefall
Waiting for: TESO
Xeth and Seradon. According to some posts on the offical forums, I think Seradon is the most populated, with Xeth just after.
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Sorry guys but I already fell for this once =/
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan
My problem isn't with the game. It's with the lack of funding and interest from SOE. I think Vanguard is a fantastic game, and has probably the most potential out of any game released so far. Unfortunately, SOE sees otherwise and would rather make games for children (Freeworlds).
Would you jump on a slowly sinking ship?
The thing is, is that a few people are still in this mindset. A lot of people are joining, and once the population gets a bit higher they will notice and start funding it. If they notice that the game is becoming popular, why wouldn't they?
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Play with what is offered to you and not with what could be offered.
Just play the game with what it offers, dont wish it had this or that. That is one of the problems now, we want to play with what the game doesnt have.
I'm actually enjoying the Chinese version of Aion more, but I have been playing the trial for Vanguard: SoH and the game is truly excellent. Have a few mid-teen characters, and the world is excellent, my 2 year old machine runs the game fine with good graphics, combat is more interesting than most games, the class/race/gear selection rocks, diplomacy is unique, crafting is decent... IMO, if this game was released today with all the hype and hoopla from it's original release, it'd be pretty big. Shows what happens when you release a game wayy too early.
Yeah I completely agree. The thing is, it isn't too late for people to get this game now. It sells for $5.. Thats right. Five bucks. http://www.gogamer.com/Vanguard--Saga-of-Heroes-for-PC-Front-Page_stcVVproductId8319544VVcatId444710VVviewprod.htm
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A lot of people are joining, and once the population gets a bit higher they will notice and start funding it. If they notice that the game is becoming popular, why wouldn't they?
Yeah, and later on I'm meeting Obama for ham sandwiches.
The thing is, is that a few people are still in this mindset. A lot of people are joining, and once the population gets a bit higher they will notice and start funding it. If they notice that the game is becoming popular, why wouldn't they?
Its like beating a dead horse. SOE won't be tossing any more funding to VG. Why? Because all of its money is going to maintaining the EQ2 development team, The Agency, Free Realms, DC Universe, and its unannounced new flagship MMO. SOE is all about business. They purchased VG for numerous reasons, one of the ones that they didn't brag about is the fact that it is leveling the competition for PVE based mmos. They know for a fact that if VG were to be bought by another company and got full dedicated resources, it would've shut SOE up so hard it would not have been funny. But what they did is purchased it, milked the dev team down to 4 developers, and let it drag along.
You should read up on how PotA is coming along. It is not looking good for the high end community by any stretch.
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What the point? Didn't SOE said something about inplimenting a cash shop for vanguard?
That's old news. What's new news? PotA will offer gear better than raid gear so all your current raiding guilds will be equalized by people doing group content.
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The thing is, is that a few people are still in this mindset. A lot of people are joining, and once the population gets a bit higher they will notice and start funding it. If they notice that the game is becoming popular, why wouldn't they?
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I swear every 3-6 months some Vanguard Dev or Shill comes here spouting the same rubbish. "Join Now!" "The games on a rebound!" "Numbers are up and the games now stable and bug free" etc etc etc. only probelm is it doesn't take long to see people still reporting the game as buggy, unstable, and that the pop continues to drop. Add to that the game has no future, ie no planned expansions a bare bone skeleton team to meet the minimal needs of keeping the game running, and yes its easy to see VG = a game on life support
Well, I don't know how fast you plan on blasting through content. But even if there's never anything added, (Which there is) , it's not like you only have 10 days worth of content. You have a ton fo content already in the game. If you look at playing the game as a long term investment, I don't even know how to deal with that ideologically. To me, it's a game, if I have fun for a whilel, it's served it's purpose. I don't plan the remaining block of the decade around me playing something. /shrug
The thing is, is that a few people are still in this mindset. A lot of people are joining, and once the population gets a bit higher they will notice and start funding it. If they notice that the game is becoming popular, why wouldn't they?
Proof or STFU, and no your opinion is not proof.
I swear every 3-6 months some Vanguard Dev or Shill comes here spouting the same rubbish. "Join Now!" "The games on a rebound!" "Numbers are up and the games now stable and bug free" etc etc etc. only probelm is it doesn't take long to see people still reporting the game as buggy, unstable, and that the pop continues to drop. Add to that the game has no future, ie no planned expansions a bare bone skeleton team to meet the minimal needs of keeping the game running, and yes its easy to see VG = a game on life support
Well for one, I'm not a Dev. And two, the biggest reason I made this thread was because people are missing out on a fantastic game. I would like to get the word out not only to increase the population, but so people can experience it for themselves and see how the game is. A majority of people just go from what others say, and are mindless drones. I don't know if you have played it, but if you haven't then you're a perfect example.
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If they give me back the money I spent on it when it was released and a free month as an apology, then I'd try it during that free month.
The thing is, is that a few people are still in this mindset. A lot of people are joining, and once the population gets a bit higher they will notice and start funding it. If they notice that the game is becoming popular, why wouldn't they?
Proof or STFU, and no your opinion is not proof.
I swear every 3-6 months some Vanguard Dev or Shill comes here spouting the same rubbish. "Join Now!" "The games on a rebound!" "Numbers are up and the games now stable and bug free" etc etc etc. only probelm is it doesn't take long to see people still reporting the game as buggy, unstable, and that the pop continues to drop. Add to that the game has no future, ie no planned expansions a bare bone skeleton team to meet the minimal needs of keeping the game running, and yes its easy to see VG = a game on life support
Well for one, I'm not a Dev. And two, the biggest reason I made this thread was because people are missing out on a fantastic game. I would like to get the word out not only to increase the population, but so people can experience it for themselves and see how the game is. A majority of people just go from what others say, and are mindless drones. I don't know if you have played it, but if you haven't then you're a perfect example.
It is a fantastic game. But some people will do whatever they can to try to stop people from trying it. /shrug
Can't blame the players who wish to advertise for this game anyway they can.
We all know SOE wont spend a dime on advertising this game. Which is a shame. Seems like these days every producer of a product should know that advertisment is key to selling any product.
This game could be the best out atm (fantasy PVE) but because of low revenue, aka low subs, they have a skeleton dev crew and can only trickle out new content very slowly. The reasons for this are many.
I played when first released back in feb 07, came back a few times with the last time back in Nov of 08.
It's come a relatively long way.
Silius as the head dev is a turn off for me though as well as SOE decisions in reguards to the games funding/handling.
Yeah, all I'm really saying to people is to try the trial NOW and make your mind up for yourself. Many are missing out on the game, and who cares about SOE when we can try and promote the game ourselves. SOE is the MMO cancer.
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Yeah, all I'm really saying to people is to try the trial NOW and make your mind up for yourself. Many are missing out on the game, and who cares about SOE when we can try and promote the game ourselves. SOE is the MMO cancer.
One of the reasons its really hard to get the word out is because the word already has been put out. Here's what comes to players mind when they think of VG:
1 - Failed launch
2 - Merged Servers
3 - SOE
4 - Smedly
5 - Low Population
6 - No PVP
7 - Small Dev Team
You put all those together and figure why even bother? And don't get me wrong, I've tried to bring some players in but these are the reasons what turns people away. The simple busienss part of it is what getting people to look the other way because alot of players look for long term solutions and do not enjoy game hopping. Most feel VG is not that solution. I put Vanguard as its own entity, the dev team as another, SOE as another also. Vanguard is fine. However 2/3 of the equation is why the other third is not doing well.
The dev team has a notorious reputation, and believe me its well known. As does SOE and the way they handle business. Alot of players feel that they should not be obligated to advertise for a product that THEY paid for. There is logic to that reasoning and hold nothing against it. The way I view it and this is just my personal opinion, the product should sell itself. There should be SOE made advertisement, banners, the whole nine to get VG out there. Viral marketing should be a small small very small portion of the equation. If SOE believes that it should be the primary way, then SOE deserves to carry on a near-dead game because they failed to care for it.
However though, when I talk to friends about picking an MMO, I give them the honest truth abotu everything. I hide nothing and they respect me for it because it ensures there's no BS attached. When they ask about EQ/EQ2/WoW/VG, I'll give them the good, bad, and the ugly. I just wish everyone else could do the same. Don't hide anything. Let people know what's going on from top to bottom, they'll appreciate it more so they don't walk in and hit the metal bar. If they go in knowing what's going on, it'll be more acceptable than to go in and go "WTF".
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Except everyone has his own truth. For one VG's graphics is terrible, for other - amazing. One cant find a group, other - has no problems with it.
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see your point... but
If people started playing the game -- the game would get attention.. It would get funding..
The vibe that I'm getting is that people would love to play the game expect for low population and SOE. Well, if people would just play they wouldn't have to worry about low pop....... SOE is just SOE. They've made some bad choices but if the game is fun - who cares..
If a lot of people try it and subscribe....pop goes up.. game gets attention.... pop goes up again because the game is getting attention... viola - you have a very active game.
I've recently subscribed via the trial thinking this would be just another MMO out there.. There is so much to do in game and so many choices that effect your character I was honestly stuck making decisions. Next character I take through I can choose something different making it a unique experience with another character. Replayablility is something that most games fail at.
I turned my exp off at one point so I wouldn't out level some of the stuff I was doing.
It's worth a try - the players are crazy helpful and curtious - one of the best communities I've seen.
Anyway - try it - if ya like it subscribe - tell friends - tell people - that makes the game grow.
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It really is a good game at this point well worth trying out. These forums have a lot of Nay sayers that seem to be very active. But there are a good number of people that like the game and people show up on these forums all the time saying they tried it and it was a lot better then they had been led to believe. No it ain't perfect but no game is. But it is good and does have some good content and plenty to do. It is probably the most advanced complicated MMO on the market, in my opinion.
It just needs more players, more develpers, and more excitement to get it going. The biggest negative around this game is SoE. Yeah they saved it but they haven't really shown it any love. It is a stepchild... Only the players can turn that around by getting the word out and showing SoE that the game is worth growing. This isn't to say the current devs aren't growing it they are but it could be faster and having a full blown expansion would be great.
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While looking for a new MMO to play this was suggested to me a couple times. Honestly I didn't like it. I didn't care for the style and the quests got boring quick. I pretty much had the same opinion I had upon trying it in beta.
That said, I didn't get very far in the game, but I'm not going to play a game that is boring in the beginning because that's silly. BUT obviously this has something that has gotten a lot of people to enjoy it.
I don't like all the races and stuff I think it's silly to have different races for the sake of having different races. There is no need for foxes and all that nonsense. But again I can understand people liking it. The bard for example, seemed interesting in that you could build your own songs. It was different than what I had seen before. *shrug*
Anyway I guess the good thing is, they have a free trial. So everyone can try it themselves and come to their own conclusion. There is less reason to depend on what others say.
VG, Is the best game out there hands down it had a rough release but what game dosnt. They have been adding new content all the time for thoughs that think it not getting funded. I alway hope there will be a better game becasue of the pop is low but after Darkfall Online big crash and burn and VG pop rising there just not a better mmorpg out there. It has almost everything u would like in an mmorpg. The community is great and very helpful. Iam not trying to sell VG i just really like the game play and the community. I hope u guy give it a try u wont be dissapointed its only like 12-14 a month that cheap for entertainment.