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  • Jerid13Jerid13 Member Posts: 465
    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by Jerid13

    Originally posted by Sovrath



    Fall is Q4

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_quarter_of_a_calendar_year#subdivisions

    Considering a Quarter is a division of 4 things into equal parts.

    Unless they start Q1 inthe Winter... then yes Q4 WOULD be fall, Though I'm going to assume that they mean Q1 being the begining of the year.

    I may of course be mistaken, but I believe that Q3 is Fall and Q4 is Winter.

    Also depends on whether they are referring to a fiscal year or calendar year.

    Calendar year:

    Q1 = Jan - March

    Q2 = April - June

    Q3 = July - Sept

    Q4 = Oct - Dec

     

    Fiscal Year:

    Q1 = April - June

    Q2 = July - September

    Q3 = October - December

    Q4 = January - March

     

     

    Yeah I saw that when I was looking up Q4 on google...

    I think I'm leaning on the calendar year since it was not a report on profits or earnings or anything it was on when something would be released, which leads me to believe they're speaking as to when the consumer can purchase it.

    Q3 would be part of the fall and Q4 also covers part of it too it seems...

    Perhaps that is why they used the word "Fall" instead of a quarter, because there is no accurate description and because it leaves them able to fudge the date a bit.

     

  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by Jerid13

    Originally posted by Locklain

    Originally posted by Jerid13

    Originally posted by Sovrath



    Fall is Q4

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_quarter_of_a_calendar_year#subdivisions

    Considering a Quarter is a division of 4 things into equal parts.

    Unless they start Q1 inthe Winter... then yes Q4 WOULD be fall, Though I'm going to assume that they mean Q1 being the begining of the year.

    I may of course be mistaken, but I believe that Q3 is Fall and Q4 is Winter.

    Also depends on whether they are referring to a fiscal year or calendar year.

    Calendar year:

    Q1 = Jan - March

    Q2 = April - June

    Q3 = July - Sept

    Q4 = Oct - Dec

     

    Fiscal Year:

    Q1 = April - June

    Q2 = July - September

    Q3 = October - December

    Q4 = January - March

     

     

    Yeah I saw that when I was looking up Q4 on google...

    I think I'm leaning on the calendar year since it was not a report on profits or earnings or anything it was on when something would be released, which leads me to believe they're speaking as to when the consumer can purchase it.

    Q3 would be part of the fall and Q4 also covers part of it too it seems...

    Perhaps that is why they used the word "Fall" instead of a quarter, because there is no accurate description and because it leaves them able to fudge the date a bit.

     

    I agree on the highlighted portion.  It would be easy for NCsoft to set a "fall" release which could later translate to a Q3 release or Q4 depending on how they feel.

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  • Jerid13Jerid13 Member Posts: 465

    YaY   I like green highlights!

    Thanks for not using red.   

    Look you learn something new every day on MMORPG.com!    

    I had no idea there was a seperate fiscal Quarterly system compared to a calendar one, ineresting.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,976
    Originally posted by Jerid13


    YaY   I like green highlights!
    Thanks for not using red.   
    Look you learn something new every day on MMORPG.com!    
    I had no idea there was a seperate fiscal Quarterly system compared to a calendar one, ineresting.

     

    Yeah, our end of the fiscal year is in.... "june".

    Don't know why.

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  • SynhderSynhder Member Posts: 22
    Originally posted by blueturtle13

    Originally posted by Synhder

    Originally posted by blueturtle13

    Originally posted by judex99


    What did WoW to move the genre forward from Everquest? more accesible? more polished? more easy? but in the end is just the same template that we had in '99.
    We currently are still playing the same template that Everquest did, so i wont blame Aion for that, in any case i will blame all the industry for lack of innovative ideas.
     

     

    I agree but WOW is 5 years old. Aion is brand new. Thats my whole point when will the genre move forward beyond what EQ already made and (according to some) WOW perfected? Hard to get excited about the same game over and over again. Reskinned or not we have all already played Aion in one version or another for years

     

    Blue my friend its sounds as if you may have reached your MMO limit for the time being. I think your waiting for the games we actually jack our selves into, the ones where we can feel, smell and taste all of its digital goodness. This whole genre at this point in time is the epitome of reskinned... but why is that bad? The formula works does it need to change right now? To make some people happy i guess it does. I see valid points from each side of the spectrum in this thread but godam it guys its only 2009 lets give Aion the chance it deserves. Stop reading into hype, stop prejudging every godamn thing thats new (or reskinned) just ... stop.

    I am not prejudging it I have played it. I am not waiting for any game other than Biowares new mmo. I sub to two mmos at the moment thank you ;) I love them both! I was excited and am still excited for those who will love this game I was just not one of them. If you love it sweet! have fun!



     

    Fair enough.

  • chopstix906chopstix906 Member Posts: 60


    Originally posted by Synhder
    Originally posted by blueturtle13
    Originally posted by judex99 What did WoW to move the genre forward from Everquest? more accesible? more polished? more easy? but in the end is just the same template that we had in '99.
    We currently are still playing the same template that Everquest did, so i wont blame Aion for that, in any case i will blame all the industry for lack of innovative ideas.
     
     
    I agree but WOW is 5 years old. Aion is brand new. Thats my whole point when will the genre move forward beyond what EQ already made and (according to some) WOW perfected? Hard to get excited about the same game over and over again. Reskinned or not we have all already played Aion in one version or another for years


     
    Blue my friend its sounds as if you may have reached your MMO limit for the time being. I think your waiting for the games we actually jack our selves into, the ones where we can feel, smell and taste all of its digital goodness. This whole genre at this point in time is the epitome of reskinned... but why is that bad? The formula works does it need to change right now? To make some people happy i guess it does. I see valid points from each side of the spectrum in this thread but godam it guys its only 2009 lets give Aion the chance it deserves. Stop reading into hype, stop prejudging every godamn thing thats new (or reskinned) just ... stop.

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  • Sadly, I have to agree with Blue here.  Not that I don't think Aion is a great game and I'll definitely give it a try, but I just don't see it bringing anything new to the table.  I'm sure it has improved on some aspects (graphics in particular), but it really just looks like a rehash of the same theme in a prettier package.  Please, if I'm wrong explain to me what Aion does that other games aren't.

    Personally I do think we're going to see a true "nextgen" MMORPG in the near future that will make even the WoW fanboys take a look.  Not sure what that would be, perhaps something like Hero's Journey where they can change the environment in real time (i.e. a monster attacks your city and those buildings really do crumble, permanently) or the fact that they will have active GM's that can control NPC's and interact with the players so the content is unpredictable and new each time through (sorry didn't mean to plug HJ there).  Anyway, who knows what it'll be, but I think it's coming... at least I hope so.

  • pkerleipkerlei Member Posts: 6

    This is surely my new hometoo, btw, guys, I got some very good Aion screen savers. can some one plz message me how I can upload it and share with you guys?

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  • theDukeytheDukey Member UncommonPosts: 102

    lol you people have too much time on your hands to try to be so exact.. its kinda funny.

     

    how about this answer for a release date..

     

    later this year :)

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by Mythsyin


    lol you people have too much time on your hands to try to be so exact.. its kinda funny.
     
    how about this answer for a release date..
     
    later this year :)

     

    No we're infact 100% certain that it will be released in the Fall of this year, as they have stated multiple times in multiple articles.

     

  • Starbrook86Starbrook86 Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by Shastra

    PS; small thing but i hope you add option to change eye color in US/EU version. I was surprised to see this simple but common option missing.

     

    Some pages later but...

    Eye color customization was added to the Korean game in Patch 1.1, which is (supposedly) going to be part of the translated NA/EU release client along with the recently released 1.2 and any other patches to help keep us up to date.

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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154
    Originally posted by Sixpax


    Sadly, I have to agree with Blue here.  Not that I don't think Aion is a great game and I'll definitely give it a try, but I just don't see it bringing anything new to the table.  I'm sure it has improved on some aspects (graphics in particular), but it really just looks like a rehash of the same theme in a prettier package.  Please, if I'm wrong explain to me what Aion does that other games aren't.
    Personally I do think we're going to see a true "nextgen" MMORPG in the near future that will make even the WoW fanboys take a look.  Not sure what that would be, perhaps something like Hero's Journey where they can change the environment in real time (i.e. a monster attacks your city and those buildings really do crumble, permanently) or the fact that they will have active GM's that can control NPC's and interact with the players so the content is unpredictable and new each time through (sorry didn't mean to plug HJ there).  Anyway, who knows what it'll be, but I think it's coming... at least I hope so.

    For me, enjoying Aion has nothing to do with anything new being brought to the genre.  As some have already said, Aion is not out to reinvent the wheel.  Nothing groundbreaking has been added, NCsoft has done what WoW did before and that is use the same formula and polished it.  If you need a game that has all the new innovations then Aion is definitely not for you.

     

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  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    I agree, no new wheel here.

    Just one that has spinners and a great pain job and a diamond studded air preassure value cap.

    One heck of a wheel.

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  • Starbrook86Starbrook86 Member Posts: 12

    I think that this claim that AION offers nothing that can't already be found in the genre is a bit skewed. Its true that the game isn't revolutionary and doesn't offer anything substantially unique or inventive, however it does offer a new setting with a pvp-centric endgame on top of a graphically stunning and incredibly polished and complete (very important elements when contending in today's market) infrastructure.

    For all that the game is similar to other class and level based MMOs, consider its differences:

     

    -It is the first MMO to feature stunning Eastern artwork (though this is of course a matter of personal taste) combined with the strong foundation of Western gameplay.

    -It offers a dynamically changing keep-oriented PvP environment on top of a strong PvE game. I would venture to say that the other games which offer this style of control (WAR, DAoC, Lineage 2, Darkfall) are either dated, lacking the PvE strength, unpolished, or some combination of those.

    -Character creation within the given races is beyond anything previously offered in the genre, and with all the diverse appearances the game still runs incredibly smoothly.

    -The game attempts to improve upon existing "standard" MMO combat with stigma and a combo system that applies to all classes.

     

    While these might be features that can be found in one game or another, it is AION that brings them together so artfully. While it may not have the benefit of an established franchise or the same market conditions as World of Warcraft did when it launched in the midst of EQ's decline, it very much offers that same amazing blend of existing features with a new flavor that helped promote WoW's early success, at least amongst MMO veterans who had become tired of the status quo.

    AION may not be revolutionary, and it might not be improving in the specific areas that you as a player prefer, but to say that it doesn't stand out against the current offerings of the genre is misguided.

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  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860
    Originally posted by blueturtle13

    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    I agree, no new wheel here.
    Just one that has spinners and a great pain job and a diamond studded air preassure value cap.
    One heck of a wheel.

     

    The only problem with that for Aion in the western market is that because it doesnt offer anything different than other mmo's out now that people currently play, alot of people will maybe try it and then just go back to their current game. Or not, just a thought. =/

     

    Ive seen the points where you dislike it and I think you should give it another chance, if you're really into crafting and exploration you should enjoy the endgame.

  • CyntheCynthe Member UncommonPosts: 1,414
    Originally posted by Starbrook86


    I think that this claim that AION offers nothing that can't already be found in the genre is a bit skewed. Its true that the game isn't revolutionary and doesn't offer anything substantially unique or inventive, however it does offer a new setting with a pvp-centric endgame on top of a graphically stunning and incredibly polished and complete (very important elements when contending in today's market) infrastructure.
    For all that the game is similar to other class and level based MMOs, consider its differences:
     
    -It is the first MMO to feature stunning Eastern artwork (though this is of course a matter of personal taste) combined with the strong foundation of Western gameplay.
    -It offers a dynamically changing keep-oriented PvP environment on top of a strong PvE game. I would venture to say that the other games which offer this style of control (WAR, DAoC, Lineage 2, Darkfall) are either dated, lacking the PvE strength, unpolished, or some combination of those.
    -Character creation within the given races is beyond anything previously offered in the genre, and with all the diverse appearances the game still runs incredibly smoothly.
    -The game attempts to improve upon existing "standard" MMO combat with stigma and a combo system that applies to all classes.
     
    While these might be features that can be found in one game or another, it is AION that brings them together so artfully. While it may not have the benefit of an established franchise or the same market conditions as World of Warcraft did when it launched in the midst of EQ's decline, it very much offers that same amazing blend of existing features with a new flavor that helped promote WoW's early success, at least amongst MMO veterans who had become tired of the status quo.
    AION may not be revolutionary, and it might not be improving in the specific areas that you as a player prefer, but to say that it doesn't stand out against the current offerings of the genre is misguided.

     

    Bravo that's exactly it. People keep saying over and over they are waiting for the next game that will be totally different then what we have seen but honestly I'm not sure that would be called an MMO. Everything has already been done in one way or another. Also I think we're underestimating the silent majority that just want to play a fun polished game and no matter what we say here, the vocal minority, it's those guys who'll make the difference.

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  • VABeachDaveVABeachDave Member Posts: 228

    Amazon.com has Aion release date of Sept 1st 2009. That fits with the fall 2009 NCSoft has stated.

    Fan sites:
    AION-On-Line.com
    aionicthoughts.wordpress.com/
    www.aionarmory.com/
    www.aionglobal.com/
    www.aionsource.com/
    www.areyouhellbound.com/forum/
    www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/253
    www.onrpg.com/

    Official sites:
    www.ncsoft.com/global/
    www.aiononline.com/us/
    eu.aiononline.com/en/

  • Focus*BankaiFocus*Bankai Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by Sixpax


    Sadly, I have to agree with Blue here.  Not that I don't think Aion is a great game and I'll definitely give it a try, but I just don't see it bringing anything new to the table.  I'm sure it has improved on some aspects (graphics in particular), but it really just looks like a rehash of the same theme in a prettier package.  Please, if I'm wrong explain to me what Aion does that other games aren't.
    Personally I do think we're going to see a true "nextgen" MMORPG in the near future that will make even the WoW fanboys take a look.  Not sure what that would be, perhaps something like Hero's Journey where they can change the environment in real time (i.e. a monster attacks your city and those buildings really do crumble, permanently) or the fact that they will have active GM's that can control NPC's and interact with the players so the content is unpredictable and new each time through (sorry didn't mean to plug HJ there).  Anyway, who knows what it'll be, but I think it's coming... at least I hope so.

    Well since NCSOFT stated that they WERE NOT trying to bring anything new to the genre really just improve on whats there and make a damn good game.  Since i've already played it i can tell you that it is just that a damn good game.  

  • Anub1sAnub1s Member Posts: 25

    Well ncsoft is doing a great work with aion and the fact that they wont be bringing anything new to the game i think is great cuz the way i see it recent mmo's are just plain boring and aion just feels like a entire diferent game even with all those formulas we've seen from other games.

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  • Shoko_LiedShoko_Lied Member UncommonPosts: 2,193
    Originally posted by blueturtle13

    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    I agree, no new wheel here.
    Just one that has spinners and a great pain job and a diamond studded air preassure value cap.
    One heck of a wheel.

     

    The only problem with that for Aion in the western market is that because it doesnt offer anything different than other mmo's out now that people currently play, alot of people will maybe try it and then just go back to their current game. Or not, just a thought. =/



     

    You went back to the same ""Opinion"" from the first page of the thread =/

    Less redundancy please.

  • Shoko_LiedShoko_Lied Member UncommonPosts: 2,193
    Originally posted by Cynthe

    Originally posted by Starbrook86


    I think that this claim that AION offers nothing that can't already be found in the genre is a bit skewed. Its true that the game isn't revolutionary and doesn't offer anything substantially unique or inventive, however it does offer a new setting with a pvp-centric endgame on top of a graphically stunning and incredibly polished and complete (very important elements when contending in today's market) infrastructure.
    For all that the game is similar to other class and level based MMOs, consider its differences:
     
    -It is the first MMO to feature stunning Eastern artwork (though this is of course a matter of personal taste) combined with the strong foundation of Western gameplay.
    -It offers a dynamically changing keep-oriented PvP environment on top of a strong PvE game. I would venture to say that the other games which offer this style of control (WAR, DAoC, Lineage 2, Darkfall) are either dated, lacking the PvE strength, unpolished, or some combination of those.
    -Character creation within the given races is beyond anything previously offered in the genre, and with all the diverse appearances the game still runs incredibly smoothly.
    -The game attempts to improve upon existing "standard" MMO combat with stigma and a combo system that applies to all classes.
     
    While these might be features that can be found in one game or another, it is AION that brings them together so artfully. While it may not have the benefit of an established franchise or the same market conditions as World of Warcraft did when it launched in the midst of EQ's decline, it very much offers that same amazing blend of existing features with a new flavor that helped promote WoW's early success, at least amongst MMO veterans who had become tired of the status quo.
    AION may not be revolutionary, and it might not be improving in the specific areas that you as a player prefer, but to say that it doesn't stand out against the current offerings of the genre is misguided.

     

    Bravo that's exactly it. People keep saying over and over they are waiting for the next game that will be totally different then what we have seen but honestly I'm not sure that would be called an MMO. Everything has already been done in one way or another. Also I think we're underestimating the silent majority that just want to play a fun polished game and no matter what we say here, the vocal minority, it's those guys who'll make the difference.

    I think some of the people here at mmorpg.com are at the end of the road for the mmo playing days. As far as (Upcoming releases go at least)

     

    Some people on this site would probably be disapointed and call it un-revolutionary to have a fully 3d, smell, hear, touch, interactive MMO that actually makes you feel like you are inside the world. I have honestly NEVER seen the wheel be revolutionized, And I don't think we ever will.

    The only thing that will beat a wheel is an alternative object or invention which is in fact "Not a wheel"... The best we will see with the wheel is modification, improvement, polish, and those things that make it work and look better for it's primary purpose.. This is the exact same deal with MMORPGS..

    The fantasy genre follows what it can from lore and those books that entale great adventures, and it will continue to "improve" But it will never do a complete 180 spin in another direction because that would be defeating itself as a mmo. Just the same the reason "Making a glass wheel with spikes" Maaay in fact be possible, but it's no revolution nor is it more efficient at it's intended function.

    I find it sad when the only way to explain to some people is by referencing a god damn wheel. I hope everyone understands because if they let this little lesson pass them up, then they are truly hopeless. =/

  • Anub1sAnub1s Member Posts: 25

    i know i went a little back but u clearly didnt read what i said which was inspite of not offering nothing different from all of those mmo's out there it clearly feels diferent. Its way more fun than any mmo ive played and i played alot you will notice what im saying once u've played.
    Also i think im entitled to my opinion even if thats agreeing with the posts before ;P
    And i agree with you when you say some ppl dont like new stuff,im not one of those i think some upcoming games are gonna be even greater. Im still looking foward to see a combat system like in elder scrolls where u go 1st person and slash the mobs away xD

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  • Tyvolus1Tyvolus1 Member Posts: 815

    Put me down as buying this the day it is released NA...Cant wait. 

  • yoscsskillsyoscsskills Member Posts: 75

     

    OKay, how do i try out this game? Open beta, i can buy this game? I don't understand how people are playing it.

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