i would only play again if they paid my 50 bucks back from when i bought it day 1, I am a big eq fan , i wasnt expecting another eq game but just a realy good game with all the hype. i played a shaman to around level 18 or so , did some jewlcrafting. i have to say imo trade skills was the worst most pain in butt system to date. the only thing the game got good is the graphics were nice. but realy they sohulda shut this game down after 2 mounths and save the engine fix the dang thing up make it a new game. And maby poeple would play. Like i say i wont play til i get 50+ $ back i was so cheated as everyone who was. i dont go store by a broken microwave but yet i couldn't return a broken game
You won't get your $50 bucks back, but if you liked EQ1 like I did, then this game is undoubtably it's successor. Money-wise, you could wait for a free-month promotional and give it awhirl. Not sure when the next free month "come back to back to Vanguard" might be... they haven't done one for quite awhile. Perhaps after Pantheon of the Ancients is released.
If you haven't played in awhile, I think you'll be amazed at the bug fixes and performance improvements.
They can't afford another free month promotion...and how many "Come back to Vanguard" newsletters can we send out? Lets not spread the message that we are desperate.
I'm not familiar with any taxlaws. But if they give something away for free that actually has a cost connected to it. Is that eligle for tax redraw?
Nor am I. However these free months have not been providing the optimal results that they have been looking for. How about instead of worrying about the new players for a minute. Lets work on a little bit of retention maybe? Does no good if players come in, play for 2 months then drop out. Sure they got a little bit of money but com'on.
I guess the main reason I started this thread was for those who quit a long time ago, and those who have never played it to try it. You speak of player retention, I can see if there are a lot of new players, the veterans might realize that eventually they could have a whole new group of people to play with. The reason that there are so many people at the low end and not as many at the high end is because a majority of players have only started recently, they can't just instantly become 50.
I say give it some time, I don't know about you, but there are a lot of players (including myself) who have been done some word-of-mouth advertising (I know its not the best but its better than nothing) and have attracted a bunch of people who love the game. They are spreading the word and so on, VG may be on the up, but I won't disagree that there is a chance nothing will come of it. For me, its a hobby, and I love the game, so all I really want to do is find others who have the same interest.
I went back during the free month in January I think it was and had worse performance than i did 6 months before that. I actually just recently started EQ again and am having fun, lol.
I remember in August of last year, I was playing and had no stuttering, things were smooth, was having a blast. I had to stop because of real life, and when I finally got back to it, it was crap again, lol. I'll probably just play eq and maybe bounce around or play nothing until I give aion a shot.
When a game starts getting worse on me, I give up on it.
I went back during the free month in January I think it was and had worse performance than i did 6 months before that. I actually just recently started EQ again and am having fun, lol. I remember in August of last year, I was playing and had no stuttering, things were smooth, was having a blast. I had to stop because of real life, and when I finally got back to it, it was crap again, lol. I'll probably just play eq and maybe bounce around or play nothing until I give aion a shot. When a game starts getting worse on me, I give up on it.
I personally have never played EQ1, but I speak to a lot of people in VG who have, and they say that this game is what EQ2 should have been. I have literally no graphical problems in this game, perhaps you need an upgrade or something?
I guess the main reason I started this thread was for those who quit a long time ago, and those who have never played it to try it. You speak of player retention, I can see if there are a lot of new players, the veterans might realize that eventually they could have a whole new group of people to play with. The reason that there are so many people at the low end and not as many at the high end is because a majority of players have only started recently, they can't just instantly become 50.
I say give it some time, I don't know about you, but there are a lot of players (including myself) who have been done some word-of-mouth advertising (I know its not the best but its better than nothing) and have attracted a bunch of people who love the game. They are spreading the word and so on, VG may be on the up, but I won't disagree that there is a chance nothing will come of it. For me, its a hobby, and I love the game, so all I really want to do is find others who have the same interest.
I've done it myself also. I don't expect them to hit 50 either but I've been waiting for 2 years now. Higher end guilds are dying because of horrible customer retention rates. Saying majority of the players have only started is not really a good thing but I guess its new players makes it ok?
Give it some time? How much time should be given? Another year? I'm not even positive where VG will be this winter, I know I've said this before but this time I really have no clue.
I refuse to support any company that believes in Micro Trasnactions, let alone one (SOE) that believes in sucking the money out of thier player base with both a subscription and micro transaction scheme. Hence my dislike of SOE and my disappointment in Turbine. I won't be purchasing or playing any of their games in the near or distant future unless they get off their greedy assed horses. These companies barely, if at all, deserve the $14.99 a month they get now. Unless they come up with games that are all about entertainment rather than repetitively wasting time, they will never deserve to charge more money for their crappy games.
That being said, I did try VG again about 4 months ago. The performance on the exact same machine I had before was worse, much worse than it had been. I still had crashes to desktop, incredible amounts of video lag and to be honest, I didn't like the raid mentality that really is starting to sweep through the game. This was suppose to be a game for Core players, you know, 6 man groups and yet like all SOE games, it's all about raiding and their frakking e-peens.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
I refuse to support any company that believes in Micro Trasnactions, let alone one (SOE) that believes in sucking the money out of thier player base with both a subscription and micro transaction scheme. Hence my dislike of SOE and my disappointment in Turbine. I won't be purchasing or playing any of their games in the near or distant future unless they get off their greedy assed horses. These companies barely, if at all, deserve the $14.99 a month they get now. Unless they come up with games that are all about entertainment rather than repetitively wasting time, they will never deserve to charge more money for their crappy games.
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One of the things I miss about MMORPG in the past is not these Warhammer "events" but the day to day dungeon mastering the EQ temas did. You could be playing in your fav spot in EQ (1999'ish) and notice a snake or a wierd creature pestering you party. It's Ai was completly different and in the end you knew it was a GM adding VALUE to your game by actively becomming a Dungeon Master..!
That ^^ is what we started paying he high monthy fee's for...
I went back during the free month in January I think it was and had worse performance than i did 6 months before that. I actually just recently started EQ again and am having fun, lol. I remember in August of last year, I was playing and had no stuttering, things were smooth, was having a blast. I had to stop because of real life, and when I finally got back to it, it was crap again, lol. I'll probably just play eq and maybe bounce around or play nothing until I give aion a shot. When a game starts getting worse on me, I give up on it.
I personally have never played EQ1, but I speak to a lot of people in VG who have, and they say that this game is what EQ2 should have been. I have literally no graphical problems in this game, perhaps you need an upgrade or something?
Nah, it wasn't my system or video card. The game was smooth for me for months on high. The I go back several months later and on balanced, even low, the performance was horrendous. I even checked other areas of the game since I figured it was the trial island, but it was not that. Just the subsequent patches made the game worse for me I guess.
I guess it is kind of like when they fix one thing, 2 things break, lol. I tried to do some of those ini fixes, but didn't notice any difference. Shouldn't have had to do those considering all well well before for me, heh. Even checked out my system thoroughly and it was clean. That and I had no problems with other games. So, like I said, think it was just the "fixes" broke it for me, lol.
Vanguard is the same game it was at release for the most part. It was always a game with great potential and soe spent 2 years fixing the performance. Anyone who thinks soe is going to suddenly realize this game has potential and put extra resources into the development is flat out crazy. Soe never had plans to make a serious attempt at making this what it could be. The first thing they did when they aquired sigil was to not rehire over half of the team. The first thing they did with the half they did rehire is to move the best talent of that bunch to other projects. Their first actions were to slash the staff and strip it of its best talents. They were handed a game with a better foundation that anything on their list and they simply let it rot and I think it is fairly obvious that was the plan. If soe doesn't have the faith in the game to support it or advertise it I doubt players can fix the situation.
If the game population grows SOE will jump on the chance to milk the profits. Its the way they work. What sort of development are we expecting? The world is big enough that it doesn't really need an expansion. More content could be added to help high level retention. The game has a lot to offer as is... not sure what the big fuss is about not having massive updates when the game is huge and has tons of content as is. I understand that population is a concern to most -- but if people would play instead of saying "I'd play if the population was bigger" the population would be bigger. I know the game is not for everyone but its really a great game. When the general public start giving it some attention so will SOE.
After reading through these forums for a bit, I noticed that a majority of the threads and posts are negative. I think right now would be the best time to start playing Vanguard, honestly. The population is rising quite quickly. You could get in on the ground floor, and be one of the top tier players before many others start playing. SOE doesn't have a re-release planned any time soon, and for those of you who are currently playing Vanguard, it is up to the players and fansites to get the word out there. Yes, SOE is quite terrible, but this game is not. If the game was released in the current condition it is in now, it would have been as big as everyone thought it was going to be.
Go download the Isle of Dawn trial http://vanguard.station.sony.com/isleofdawn/ and try it out if you haven't. I don't want to see anyone post here saying the game is terrible if you haven't tried it within the last month or so. Bandwagon flames will just be outright ignored (those of you who have never played it and think you're pretty cool posting trash about it. And for those of you who ARE playing, I'm just wondering what you have done to help promote the game? Its too bad it got such a bad rap, because people are missing out on a lot of fun.
think if I were going to try a sony product again, Id have to go with EQ2 over Vanguard, its just a more polished and better product.
After reading through these forums for a bit, I noticed that a majority of the threads and posts are negative. I think right now would be the best time to start playing Vanguard, honestly. The population is rising quite quickly. You could get in on the ground floor, and be one of the top tier players before many others start playing. SOE doesn't have a re-release planned any time soon, and for those of you who are currently playing Vanguard, it is up to the players and fansites to get the word out there. Yes, SOE is quite terrible, but this game is not. If the game was released in the current condition it is in now, it would have been as big as everyone thought it was going to be.
Go download the Isle of Dawn trial http://vanguard.station.sony.com/isleofdawn/ and try it out if you haven't. I don't want to see anyone post here saying the game is terrible if you haven't tried it within the last month or so. Bandwagon flames will just be outright ignored (those of you who have never played it and think you're pretty cool posting trash about it. And for those of you who ARE playing, I'm just wondering what you have done to help promote the game? Its too bad it got such a bad rap, because people are missing out on a lot of fun.
think if I were going to try a sony product again, Id have to go with EQ2 over Vanguard, its just a more polished and better product.
Have you tried the VG trial, though? Its free, afterall.
Vanguard is the same game it was at release for the most part. It was always a game with great potential and soe spent 2 years fixing the performance. Anyone who thinks soe is going to suddenly realize this game has potential and put extra resources into the development is flat out crazy. Soe never had plans to make a serious attempt at making this what it could be. The first thing they did when they aquired sigil was to not rehire over half of the team. The first thing they did with the half they did rehire is to move the best talent of that bunch to other projects. Their first actions were to slash the staff and strip it of its best talents. They were handed a game with a better foundation that anything on their list and they simply let it rot and I think it is fairly obvious that was the plan. If soe doesn't have the faith in the game to support it or advertise it I doubt players can fix the situation.
If the game population grows SOE will jump on the chance to milk the profits. Its the way they work. What sort of development are we expecting? The world is big enough that it doesn't really need an expansion. More content could be added to help high level retention. The game has a lot to offer as is... not sure what the big fuss is about not having massive updates when the game is huge and has tons of content as is. I understand that population is a concern to most -- but if people would play instead of saying "I'd play if the population was bigger" the population would be bigger. I know the game is not for everyone but its really a great game. When the general public start giving it some attention so will SOE.
We've been saying this for 2.5 years. Why not just remake the game under SOE from the get go? Least we know then they will take care of it ya know?
After reading through these forums for a bit, I noticed that a majority of the threads and posts are negative. I think right now would be the best time to start playing Vanguard, honestly. The population is rising quite quickly. You could get in on the ground floor, and be one of the top tier players before many others start playing. SOE doesn't have a re-release planned any time soon, and for those of you who are currently playing Vanguard, it is up to the players and fansites to get the word out there. Yes, SOE is quite terrible, but this game is not. If the game was released in the current condition it is in now, it would have been as big as everyone thought it was going to be.
Go download the Isle of Dawn trial http://vanguard.station.sony.com/isleofdawn/ and try it out if you haven't. I don't want to see anyone post here saying the game is terrible if you haven't tried it within the last month or so. Bandwagon flames will just be outright ignored (those of you who have never played it and think you're pretty cool posting trash about it. And for those of you who ARE playing, I'm just wondering what you have done to help promote the game? Its too bad it got such a bad rap, because people are missing out on a lot of fun.
I'm not some big screaming SWG vet but I have a real hard time dishing out money to anything that has anything to do with both SOE and John Smedley.This game also isn't helped by the fact that I'm basically burned out on fantasy settings in mmo's just too darn many I'm currently in lotro which I will play as long as it is out but after that I just don't see anything short of a D&D mmo that is better than ddo online that is going to get me back in fantasy.
I'm passing on DF for the same reason as well as Aion and Chronicles of Spellborn.Some of the features of this game sound nice but with the huge time investment mmos take I just can't go that route.Add all those factors up and I won't be playing but it still doesn't stop me from hoping you continue to have fun.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
My problem isn't with the game. It's with the lack of funding and interest from SOE. Would you jump on a slowly sinking ship?
The thing is, is that a few people are still in this mindset. A lot of people are joining, and once the population gets a bit higher they will notice and start funding it. If they notice that the game is becoming popular, why wouldn't they?
They need a lot of new players for that to happen, compare how many servers Vanguard have to EQ2.
Vanguard is going in the right direction but it is going rather slowly.
Personally I think SOE should go cashshop and make the game free to play, they would get a lot of players then since Vanguard still are miles better than games like Atlantica and ROM.
I have a stations pass so I play it at times, it is not bad and have a huge potential but SOE could really spend more resources on it.
Still, it is really worth trying the free trial. The graphics are good and it isn't as easy as Wow to play.
Great game and the new stuff coming (PotA) looks fab.
No other game cuts it in regards to depth.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS) Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
Totally agree that VG should be free. I like the game although it's too PvE centric to my tastes. Theres so much space, such a huge world it would make a perfect RvR/siege game. Also when it comes to MMOs its one of the deepest titles out there. I loved diplo altho once u sussed it out it was pretty easy.
But, i wont be coming back. I live in EU and there's only PvE servers available. I need my PvP. And the pop on Halgar is not impressive also. If there's someone there they're in their late 40's and guilded. Most infuriating thing is that everyone says to level up to 50 ALONE, and that's when the fun starts... Bollocks to that. I'd rather play WAR where fun starts at lvl 1.
If the game population grows SOE will jump on the chance to milk the profits. Its the way they work. What sort of development are we expecting? The world is big enough that it doesn't really need an expansion. More content could be added to help high level retention. The game has a lot to offer as is... not sure what the big fuss is about not having massive updates when the game is huge and has tons of content as is. I understand that population is a concern to most -- but if people would play instead of saying "I'd play if the population was bigger" the population would be bigger. I know the game is not for everyone but its really a great game. When the general public start giving it some attention so will SOE.
Please don't take what I am saying as a comment about the content that vanguard has to offer. I think it is a fine game, but there is a limit to the content it has to offer. For you it may be plenty, but for many it can be burned through and soe is not adding enough at a brisk pace.
If vanguards population suddenly exploded to 40k players, what assurance do you have that soe would take notice and put more effort into the game? They are just as likely to sit back and keep all the extra money they get. Their entire history for the last several years has been to cut the services and developement to their games and expand on initiatives to charge extra fees for using the same or less amount of assests in creating their games.
Unless it is one of their future titles that are about to release, every game on their station pass is moving towards life support and mothballing. Hard reality, but that is the honest truth. Soe isn't going to run arms open to this game or any other just because a few thousand more people sign up. They are still shooting for the million player benchmarks.
I went back during the free month in January I think it was and had worse performance than i did 6 months before that. I actually just recently started EQ again and am having fun, lol. I remember in August of last year, I was playing and had no stuttering, things were smooth, was having a blast. I had to stop because of real life, and when I finally got back to it, it was crap again, lol. I'll probably just play eq and maybe bounce around or play nothing until I give aion a shot. When a game starts getting worse on me, I give up on it.
Delete Caches folder. They redid how textures are loaded during that time period. Performance is even better now despite some areas getting quite crowded. Raiding in an APW shard with over 100 people in it was unheard of and would have been impossible 6-8 months ago. Now it happens, not at good as having a shard to yourself, but still pretty amazing improvement.
I appreciate what this thread is trying to do and Ive quoted Vanguard as the Hidden gem of Sony.
It truly is a good game full stop.
But like others Ive not played for a long while due to too many things lacking overrulling whats being offered.
Stability I never had too much trouble with, it was more finding others to play it. Grouping was at times essential and either people were in WOW mode and not talking or scared to - or no one wasnt around full stop.
That was my biggest beef but now it will need content and tweaks to keep it interesting - the character models and weird armour also in my eyes needed working on.
The main boards appear to be locked down now to only subbers so I cant check in to see the state of play.
What this section needs is someone making posts about how much more has been worked on and what people can expect to see if they play now.
The OP is right it needs players and the only way to get people coming back is word of mouth and its gotta be a good word right now with some stiff competition out there.
Ive read the correspondants review on the state of play - bypssing some grammar and spelling it makes for a good read but its not a hey look - this is new - this has changed etc...its just an overview
So dude post exactly whats new and changed and you may find more people including myself looking at VG in a new light.
I have played tons of MMos(VG included), and so far none of them have been as good as EQ2, and its going to get a lot more focus from SOE since it is their top MMO.
I have played tons of MMos(VG included), and so far none of them have been as good as EQ2, and its going to get a lot more focus from SOE since it is their top MMO.
Funny. I played tons of MMOs myself and I consider EQ2 to be one of the worst. Not counting F2P grinders.
If the game population grows SOE will jump on the chance to milk the profits. Its the way they work. What sort of development are we expecting? The world is big enough that it doesn't really need an expansion. More content could be added to help high level retention. The game has a lot to offer as is... not sure what the big fuss is about not having massive updates when the game is huge and has tons of content as is. I understand that population is a concern to most -- but if people would play instead of saying "I'd play if the population was bigger" the population would be bigger. I know the game is not for everyone but its really a great game. When the general public start giving it some attention so will SOE.
Please don't take what I am saying as a comment about the content that vanguard has to offer. I think it is a fine game, but there is a limit to the content it has to offer. For you it may be plenty, but for many it can be burned through and soe is not adding enough at a brisk pace.
If vanguards population suddenly exploded to 40k players, what assurance do you have that soe would take notice and put more effort into the game? They are just as likely to sit back and keep all the extra money they get. Their entire history for the last several years has been to cut the services and developement to their games and expand on initiatives to charge extra fees for using the same or less amount of assests in creating their games.
Unless it is one of their future titles that are about to release, every game on their station pass is moving towards life support and mothballing. Hard reality, but that is the honest truth. Soe isn't going to run arms open to this game or any other just because a few thousand more people sign up. They are still shooting for the million player benchmarks.
You have a point.
SOE is hard to figure out.. sometimes having their attention isn't always a good thing. However if there was an influx of players from a business stand point it would make sense for a company for give it some love.....
I've got a great guild and a lot of people to play along side of so Population really isn't an issue for me at this point.
I'm kinda in an MMO funk so i will be trying this game in the near future. I just got WAR and AOC and so far AOC is the better game I think. I get a lil bored in AOC at time but not as much as WAR. I would already have Vanguard but i want to let my paid time in the other two games ware off first. Going to play on a PVP server there. Are there more than 1 and if so which haas the highest pop? I did buy this game when it forst came out but I wasnt paying attention to the specs and my CPU at the time was lacking a lil to play it. Glad i didnt get too really as now i will be able to give it a fair shot wit hnew patches and all.
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You won't get your $50 bucks back, but if you liked EQ1 like I did, then this game is undoubtably it's successor. Money-wise, you could wait for a free-month promotional and give it awhirl. Not sure when the next free month "come back to back to Vanguard" might be... they haven't done one for quite awhile. Perhaps after Pantheon of the Ancients is released.
If you haven't played in awhile, I think you'll be amazed at the bug fixes and performance improvements.
They can't afford another free month promotion...and how many "Come back to Vanguard" newsletters can we send out? Lets not spread the message that we are desperate.
I'm not familiar with any taxlaws. But if they give something away for free that actually has a cost connected to it. Is that eligle for tax redraw?
Nor am I. However these free months have not been providing the optimal results that they have been looking for. How about instead of worrying about the new players for a minute. Lets work on a little bit of retention maybe? Does no good if players come in, play for 2 months then drop out. Sure they got a little bit of money but com'on.
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I guess the main reason I started this thread was for those who quit a long time ago, and those who have never played it to try it. You speak of player retention, I can see if there are a lot of new players, the veterans might realize that eventually they could have a whole new group of people to play with. The reason that there are so many people at the low end and not as many at the high end is because a majority of players have only started recently, they can't just instantly become 50.
I say give it some time, I don't know about you, but there are a lot of players (including myself) who have been done some word-of-mouth advertising (I know its not the best but its better than nothing) and have attracted a bunch of people who love the game. They are spreading the word and so on, VG may be on the up, but I won't disagree that there is a chance nothing will come of it. For me, its a hobby, and I love the game, so all I really want to do is find others who have the same interest.
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I went back during the free month in January I think it was and had worse performance than i did 6 months before that. I actually just recently started EQ again and am having fun, lol.
I remember in August of last year, I was playing and had no stuttering, things were smooth, was having a blast. I had to stop because of real life, and when I finally got back to it, it was crap again, lol. I'll probably just play eq and maybe bounce around or play nothing until I give aion a shot.
When a game starts getting worse on me, I give up on it.
I personally have never played EQ1, but I speak to a lot of people in VG who have, and they say that this game is what EQ2 should have been. I have literally no graphical problems in this game, perhaps you need an upgrade or something?
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I've done it myself also. I don't expect them to hit 50 either but I've been waiting for 2 years now. Higher end guilds are dying because of horrible customer retention rates. Saying majority of the players have only started is not really a good thing but I guess its new players makes it ok?
Give it some time? How much time should be given? Another year? I'm not even positive where VG will be this winter, I know I've said this before but this time I really have no clue.
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I refuse to support any company that believes in Micro Trasnactions, let alone one (SOE) that believes in sucking the money out of thier player base with both a subscription and micro transaction scheme. Hence my dislike of SOE and my disappointment in Turbine. I won't be purchasing or playing any of their games in the near or distant future unless they get off their greedy assed horses. These companies barely, if at all, deserve the $14.99 a month they get now. Unless they come up with games that are all about entertainment rather than repetitively wasting time, they will never deserve to charge more money for their crappy games.
That being said, I did try VG again about 4 months ago. The performance on the exact same machine I had before was worse, much worse than it had been. I still had crashes to desktop, incredible amounts of video lag and to be honest, I didn't like the raid mentality that really is starting to sweep through the game. This was suppose to be a game for Core players, you know, 6 man groups and yet like all SOE games, it's all about raiding and their frakking e-peens.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
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One of the things I miss about MMORPG in the past is not these Warhammer "events" but the day to day dungeon mastering the EQ temas did. You could be playing in your fav spot in EQ (1999'ish) and notice a snake or a wierd creature pestering you party. It's Ai was completly different and in the end you knew it was a GM adding VALUE to your game by actively becomming a Dungeon Master..!
That ^^ is what we started paying he high monthy fee's for...
^ This.
I personally have never played EQ1, but I speak to a lot of people in VG who have, and they say that this game is what EQ2 should have been. I have literally no graphical problems in this game, perhaps you need an upgrade or something?
Nah, it wasn't my system or video card. The game was smooth for me for months on high. The I go back several months later and on balanced, even low, the performance was horrendous. I even checked other areas of the game since I figured it was the trial island, but it was not that. Just the subsequent patches made the game worse for me I guess.
I guess it is kind of like when they fix one thing, 2 things break, lol. I tried to do some of those ini fixes, but didn't notice any difference. Shouldn't have had to do those considering all well well before for me, heh. Even checked out my system thoroughly and it was clean. That and I had no problems with other games. So, like I said, think it was just the "fixes" broke it for me, lol.
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think if I were going to try a sony product again, Id have to go with EQ2 over Vanguard, its just a more polished and better product.
think if I were going to try a sony product again, Id have to go with EQ2 over Vanguard, its just a more polished and better product.
Have you tried the VG trial, though? Its free, afterall.
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We've been saying this for 2.5 years. Why not just remake the game under SOE from the get go? Least we know then they will take care of it ya know?
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I'm not some big screaming SWG vet but I have a real hard time dishing out money to anything that has anything to do with both SOE and John Smedley.This game also isn't helped by the fact that I'm basically burned out on fantasy settings in mmo's just too darn many I'm currently in lotro which I will play as long as it is out but after that I just don't see anything short of a D&D mmo that is better than ddo online that is going to get me back in fantasy.
I'm passing on DF for the same reason as well as Aion and Chronicles of Spellborn.Some of the features of this game sound nice but with the huge time investment mmos take I just can't go that route.Add all those factors up and I won't be playing but it still doesn't stop me from hoping you continue to have fun.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
The thing is, is that a few people are still in this mindset. A lot of people are joining, and once the population gets a bit higher they will notice and start funding it. If they notice that the game is becoming popular, why wouldn't they?
They need a lot of new players for that to happen, compare how many servers Vanguard have to EQ2.
Vanguard is going in the right direction but it is going rather slowly.
Personally I think SOE should go cashshop and make the game free to play, they would get a lot of players then since Vanguard still are miles better than games like Atlantica and ROM.
I have a stations pass so I play it at times, it is not bad and have a huge potential but SOE could really spend more resources on it.
Still, it is really worth trying the free trial. The graphics are good and it isn't as easy as Wow to play.
Great game and the new stuff coming (PotA) looks fab.
No other game cuts it in regards to depth.
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Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
Totally agree that VG should be free. I like the game although it's too PvE centric to my tastes. Theres so much space, such a huge world it would make a perfect RvR/siege game. Also when it comes to MMOs its one of the deepest titles out there. I loved diplo altho once u sussed it out it was pretty easy.
But, i wont be coming back. I live in EU and there's only PvE servers available. I need my PvP. And the pop on Halgar is not impressive also. If there's someone there they're in their late 40's and guilded. Most infuriating thing is that everyone says to level up to 50 ALONE, and that's when the fun starts... Bollocks to that. I'd rather play WAR where fun starts at lvl 1.
Please don't take what I am saying as a comment about the content that vanguard has to offer. I think it is a fine game, but there is a limit to the content it has to offer. For you it may be plenty, but for many it can be burned through and soe is not adding enough at a brisk pace.
If vanguards population suddenly exploded to 40k players, what assurance do you have that soe would take notice and put more effort into the game? They are just as likely to sit back and keep all the extra money they get. Their entire history for the last several years has been to cut the services and developement to their games and expand on initiatives to charge extra fees for using the same or less amount of assests in creating their games.
Unless it is one of their future titles that are about to release, every game on their station pass is moving towards life support and mothballing. Hard reality, but that is the honest truth. Soe isn't going to run arms open to this game or any other just because a few thousand more people sign up. They are still shooting for the million player benchmarks.
Delete Caches folder. They redid how textures are loaded during that time period. Performance is even better now despite some areas getting quite crowded. Raiding in an APW shard with over 100 people in it was unheard of and would have been impossible 6-8 months ago. Now it happens, not at good as having a shard to yourself, but still pretty amazing improvement.
I appreciate what this thread is trying to do and Ive quoted Vanguard as the Hidden gem of Sony.
It truly is a good game full stop.
But like others Ive not played for a long while due to too many things lacking overrulling whats being offered.
Stability I never had too much trouble with, it was more finding others to play it. Grouping was at times essential and either people were in WOW mode and not talking or scared to - or no one wasnt around full stop.
That was my biggest beef but now it will need content and tweaks to keep it interesting - the character models and weird armour also in my eyes needed working on.
The main boards appear to be locked down now to only subbers so I cant check in to see the state of play.
What this section needs is someone making posts about how much more has been worked on and what people can expect to see if they play now.
The OP is right it needs players and the only way to get people coming back is word of mouth and its gotta be a good word right now with some stiff competition out there.
Ive read the correspondants review on the state of play - bypssing some grammar and spelling it makes for a good read but its not a hey look - this is new - this has changed etc...its just an overview
So dude post exactly whats new and changed and you may find more people including myself looking at VG in a new light.
I'll resub when the subcriptions are a million plus.
I'm not spending another six months of my life on this game.
Good ideas+Bad implementation=Bad game with good ideas.
I have played tons of MMos(VG included), and so far none of them have been as good as EQ2, and its going to get a lot more focus from SOE since it is their top MMO.
Funny. I played tons of MMOs myself and I consider EQ2 to be one of the worst. Not counting F2P grinders.
Please don't take what I am saying as a comment about the content that vanguard has to offer. I think it is a fine game, but there is a limit to the content it has to offer. For you it may be plenty, but for many it can be burned through and soe is not adding enough at a brisk pace.
If vanguards population suddenly exploded to 40k players, what assurance do you have that soe would take notice and put more effort into the game? They are just as likely to sit back and keep all the extra money they get. Their entire history for the last several years has been to cut the services and developement to their games and expand on initiatives to charge extra fees for using the same or less amount of assests in creating their games.
Unless it is one of their future titles that are about to release, every game on their station pass is moving towards life support and mothballing. Hard reality, but that is the honest truth. Soe isn't going to run arms open to this game or any other just because a few thousand more people sign up. They are still shooting for the million player benchmarks.
You have a point.
SOE is hard to figure out.. sometimes having their attention isn't always a good thing. However if there was an influx of players from a business stand point it would make sense for a company for give it some love.....
I've got a great guild and a lot of people to play along side of so Population really isn't an issue for me at this point.
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I'm kinda in an MMO funk so i will be trying this game in the near future. I just got WAR and AOC and so far AOC is the better game I think. I get a lil bored in AOC at time but not as much as WAR. I would already have Vanguard but i want to let my paid time in the other two games ware off first. Going to play on a PVP server there. Are there more than 1 and if so which haas the highest pop? I did buy this game when it forst came out but I wasnt paying attention to the specs and my CPU at the time was lacking a lil to play it. Glad i didnt get too really as now i will be able to give it a fair shot wit hnew patches and all.
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