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Bad thing about WOW *No flaming*
Grymir
Member Posts: 5
Hi everyone sorry for my bad english but I am a French Canadian (nobody perfect ya know
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I heard all thing about how WoW is super, better MMO and the like but i want tho know the bad thing WoW have.
Right now im playing Eq2 because all my other friend play it. They are all older player of Eq1 and whe build a teamspeak server to speak to each other and my Eq2 experience so far is great. But i keep wondering if WoW it just better like everyone say and if WoW it more a game for me.
So I need your help! I alerdy heard all the good thing about WoW now i want to know the Bad side of WoW. I have some fear that keep me for buying it: being hacked like D2, too easy and too young community.
Please post your opignon and if you have too much time you can correct all my grammatical mistake!
*Just edit because i think I sound too much like a Eq2 fanboy
! Eq ist perfect and i just spend 500$ to boost my compu just for the graphic to stop being crappy. I fear the Hype for WoW it maybe too much. I dont want to buy a game and realize it just like Eq2 or FFIX beside minor thing.
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Consider the thought of not being able to log off the game... not being able to eat or sleep for the first couple of days... That's the bad thing about WoW... u det too damn addicted...
Borgatory
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Good question, really.
In essence... They are both pretty much the same game. Questbased advancement and such. You would recognize yourself immediatly. That in itself might be a bad thing. They both follow the "Next gen" formula. But having played both, I found WoW more enjoyable... personal taste, but I really smiled from hour one and forward. But yes, one thing I did each time I started a character on a server, be it PvP, RP or normal:
Start by turning of General chat. Then start the ignore list directly in noobie area at lvl 1. After a day or two, you would have a nice time talking to sensible people and enjoying yourself... But without turning off general and without cleaning out the trash.. Its awful. Now, EQ II was not a whole lot better. Same kind of players, "Next gen consumer base" or teenage dweebs that do not want anything more complicated than "Hit button for XP". But if I have to say anything negative about WoW, then it is the chat window
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
WoW seems to have figured out their initial server problems. But I have to say the game is far from perfect. The things I like least is that grouping is not rewarded. If you fight alone you get more experience from a creature than if you fight in a group. This does not encourage people to group. There are little to no Community building quests or activities as yet. Hopefully when world events come into play, we will see some community building.
Reality is not all it's cracked up to be...That's why there are video games
Reality is not all it's cracked up to be...That's why there are video games
Well lag for new MMORPG it normal and maybe WoW just suffert for it popularity
But I dont think I will try WoW now. Maybe in a couple of month or when i got tired of Eq2. I think Eq2 got some good idea like dead sharing xp and voice over and the graphic are very good but i still attract to WoW... The Troll Warrior inside me tell to buy this game and kill every alliance player i see
It too bad I miss this game in open beta and i hope the game will not suffer for stupid hacker/exploiter like in D2
With battle.net they provided a free service, so I don't think they felt a very
(more so if you also happen to
strong urge to catch all the hackers, but since WoW is a monthly fee MMORPG,
I'm sure they will be prosecuting that kind of behaviour. Also, hacking their
servers is nearly impossible, and things like map hacking and such I believe
are impossible due to the packets sent to the client.
And about speedhacking, they surely can implement some checkings to avoid it.
If it happens, it can be countered for sure
pay for the service heh)
And btw, Wow is one of my preferred games, I had to leave it in Open Beta b/c
I started to get too addicted, and I will be getting it for sure when holiday comes.
WoW is amazin but the only bad thing about it is the database lag but
becoz it's Blizzard i think they will fix it in no time. but still i'm still waiting
for my CD-KEY and i'm damn unpatient. I'm dying here.
Dan
Only thing bad about WoW currently for me is waiting for the damn UPS man and my copy.
Seriously though, it doesnt highlight the advantages of grouping and taking on elite mobs.
You get better xp and better loot if you group and do Elite Dungeons/quests.
But once you have been in an elite dungeon there is no turning back
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
Why are some people so obsessed with forcing people to group? The sooner the genre grows up and realises that solo play is just as fun, the better. Community? People hate and flame each other non-stop in these online games, there is no community in any of them - everybody is out for themselves, to get THEIR loot and THEIR rewards.To think otherwise is...naive.
Being forced to guild to play is BS, being forced to group to play is BS.
You hit the nail with this post. Nobody tells you elite quests need grouping or that they give waaaay better items (not to mention most unique sets that are to be found nowhere else but on elite monsters inside instances)... I had a laugh every time I saw someone go inside ragefire chasm(a lvl 13-17 mob instance) the first moment they got their first elite quest there, only to come running back with their tail between their legs a second after. Shouldn't be funny, though. Anyone checked out the crescent staff or wingblade you get for(a quest) killing the 4 serpent lords(that happen to drop very nice loot by themselves) in wailing caverns(lvl 18-26 elite monster place*)? You see people still using them at lvl 35. Grouping is very rewarding in the right places as is soloing. This game enforces BOTH.
Best way to make it though, is probably to play with a partner, which adds to the "couples that play computer games" attraction factor. I saw so many couples in stress 2 --> ob, I couldn't believe my eyes. "My fiance gave me this armor", "My wife's gonna log on soon so I gotta go help her", "We're married and play from the same house" - just some of the memorable quotes. Of course you don't need to be married to form a duo, a friend will do
*the only lvl 26 monster is a giant murloc that happens to be the final monster you kill.
The worse thing about WoW is the people playing it. Too many people flood the general chat with "Where is <insert quest item>?", when all they'd need to do is read their quest log and see where it might be. Alot of people don't want to have to look for things or specific baddies. Also I've noticed that the maturity level in WoW is fairly low also. There is little help you'll get out in the field too. If you're almost dead and are running, don't expect any assistance.
Don't get me wrong, everyone is not all bad. But mostly it is.
This is true for the dynamic duo bit usually. Two good friends who like computer games partner their grind to greatness. But as for making a 5 man instance group? Who has exactly 5 friends playing at the same time and being the same lvl as you? Not a lot of people. Most groups are formed when looking to complete an instance for a great quest reward. Perhaps it's a dynamic duo getting together with another dynamic duo and some random 5th party (who will in most cases be a healer or a rezzer), a dynamic duo getting together with three random people (failing bysmally because someone leaves, kicking out a ninja looter who rolls on stuff he doesn't need, failing a few times and making some friends with whom you finally pull it off with in a blaze of glory), or just 5 soloers getting together (failing a few times, each time making the group a bit stronger as one or two unliked/useless players are kicked from the group) which opts for the formation of many a dynamic duo after the instance ("wow i found a guy who actually knows how to play -> gotta keep playing with him").
There's yer situations fer grouping and the formation of dynamic duos and, perhaps in the long run, even guilds. If you can't make sense of my gibberish, please ask me to clarify my statements.
Ah look.. here they come again. So nice.. yes, the EQ crowd really are the mature ones...
*sigh* That whole game must be sponsored by Idiots R Us. Now lets just wait for En1gma to come in and agree witht the EQ Fan, and delete the posts from those that like WoW..
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
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blizzard is a good company and you naturally expect good stuff,
it's like expecting good performance from a bmw
unlike sony, it's not crap inside
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....must ....play .....WoW
This is actually sorta true. I mean why does WoW excite you? Isn't part of because its made by blizzard and part of it is because it connects with War3? If you slap blizzard's name on anything, people will look to see wut it is...until that is, they play it.
and no im not a EQ fannie. imma proud DnL fannie.
www.darknlight.com www.darknlight.net
^3rd generation mmorpg, not WoW or EQII with just their betta graphics, dis game is for everyone, whether ur a grinder, quester, group exper, w/e.
Hi, I'm new to this board.
After reading through this thread I would like to give my take on the flaws of WoW based on what I've seen so far and from my friends' comments. I am a Final Fantasy XI player but have played WoW beta and the final release.
Blizzard's design philosophy does go along with the "next-gen" MMO formula but there are some issues I am concerned with. First of all, everyone I know who has played it told me the game does not encourage player interaction whatsoever. You spend most of your time running around soloing mobs, quests, anything you can think of.
Another problem with WoW is that it appears to be extremely easy. After playing 3 hours at a friend's house, I have yet to die and already level 4 without knowing much about the game. Quests are basically handed to you with very precise instructions on how to accomplish them and some even warn you of possible dangers along the way. Entertaining but very shallow.
Power leveling also seems to be a driving factor in why the game seems so easy. I don't know about high level fights but in single digit levels when I am fighting a mob, someone else can help kill the mob with me and I get full experience points. I have not done extensive tests but a couple of people told me they noticed the same thing. Combine this with auto-regen without any form of resting makes combat fast, frequent and honestly, overly easy.
There might be other things but that's my initial impression of WoW in terms of its flaws. I just want to remind people of its qualities such as: great GUI, great customizability, addictive game play, and above average graphics. The game also allows casual players to jump in for an hour or hard core players playing all day.
But the game just seems overly easy, too much glitz not enough substance. It's basically "my first next-gen MMO" but not quite there in terms of depth.
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No flaming? So in other words you know youre saying something to offend people because you know deep down that youre wrong? Lemme guess you made it to level 15 tops? heh. Get a clue and a thought of your own, NOW. WoW has catered to everyone as far as aquiring levels goes. Name one sinlge MMO that can beat this:
Most leveling is done with quests. However. say youre online one night, and need to do an elite quest but noone is on that can help you. Guess what? You can EASILY go level off of creeps/mobs thatre the SAME level as you. Blizzard even took pity on some of you and made thier level D|SPLAYED next to thier health bar (unless youre 10 levels lower than the <insert enemy>, then you see skull (S).
I mean seriously , go play EQ2 or ANY other MMO for that matter and see how far you get solo.Heh. And to the other poster complaing about how much his/her pu.ssy hurts over how this game is forced grouping er think again....try and complete your first round of gathering quests, reach a level above 15 then complain.
Out.
Tired of Blizzard fan boys talkin smack like they play the world's best MMO, lemme break it down for you.
EVERYONE knows you can solo in WoW, nobody including me is denying that fact. But for an OMGBBQTHISFUCKFUQINGREAT MMO, you should not be able to up 15 levels in 8 hours like my friends are doing.
Secondly, what the hell are you smoking when you say soloing is the best thing to come in MMO? Might as well call it a MSO... Massively SINGLEplayer Online RPG. Soloing is great but WoW is taking to a whole new extreme. Might as well give you XP for walking into towns if you want so much soloable content. The solo factor is its strong point yet its downfall.
Blizzard's design comment about how "when we were designing the game we kept asking ourselves what were we doing every 5 minutes and was it fun." You know what that's GREAT. Great idea, seriously. But their approach of keeping you busy doesn't mean the game will be a deep rewarding experience.
You guys think I'm a noob, I don't need to play the game until I'm high level, I have coworkers and friends everywhere playing the beta and final product and they have compared various MMOs and I have been hearing the same comments from both sides. They all agree the game is just way too easy. If you're having trouble with the game chances are you're not playing it right because the dynamics of the gameplay simply does not make it difficult. Running away from mobs, auto-regen, very little penalty for dying, quest-based XP, overly intuitive quests, the list goes on and on.
All I been reading in this thread is the lag issues, the original poster does not care how bad the lag is, he wanted to know about the game. Fanboys like you post nothing but good things about he game but never admit to the flaws, that's why I registered just to let the "others" know wsup cuz honestly WoW ain't all that. Don't hate just cuz you don't like an MMO that's challenging and rewarding when you actually get something difficult and complete it such as in EQ or FFXI. Most of the players who went to WoW are War3/Diablo players and they think they have the best MMO on their hands. My roommate thinks just like you fanboys, thinks everything Blizzard does is great and all the other games don't stack up, I just feel sorry for you guys.
WoW is addictive, WoW is fun, WoW has good graphics, WoW has a great GUI, WoW has a good story,
BUT
WoW is easy, WoW is shallow, WoW lacks high level content, and most of all, WoW shoulda been renamed, MY FIRST DIABLO MMO.
Eat it.
---From a former Warcraft player who realized that Blizzard fanboys are idiots. Get your heads out of your ass and open your eyes to what a real MMO is... ANYTHING OTHER THAN WoW.
I just read the douche bag who posted right under your post and I just wanted to add some more comments. You two kept bringing up specific events such as "red quests" or whatever crap they call it as if it'll change the whole dynamics of the game. The fact of the matter is that level 15 plateau you so covetly claim as being such a hard plateau to reach has already been reach by more than 10 of my friends who are currently playing the game and in fact, at work when my coworker went at 1pm to go buy the game, by the time it was 5:15, I went to check on him and he was about to ding 7. I asked how is the game, and the guy behind me said it's pretty easy. I looked back at my friend's screen and some random level 12 guy helped him beat up a beast. I said "um, did he steal your kill?" He replied: "no, it's hella funny, he helps me kill it and I get full XP, it's great".
I am a FFXI player and there is no such thing as "steal killing" so to see someone being able to get power leveled like that blows my mind. That's not supposed to be in an MMO... is it? Well as long Blizzard says so then I guess it has to be right.
When I say the game is easy, I do not mean God Mode, Unlimited Ammo, Up Up Down Down L R L R B A, IDDQD IDKFA, BFG9000 in the eye easy. It just means it's smooth sailing most of the time unless you're just insanely noob.
Btw.... EAT IT.
I wanna quote Orcc (forum member):
"Whatta ya know, WoW has introduced something new. Instead of level grind, we now have quest grinding! Sure its more to the point than killing random things endlessly, but the quests arent anything special either. They are either a fedex, gather or kill quest. Elite quests (at least the ones I was) were just a combination of kill/fedex quests too. The Epic I got for Undead was to go kill some guys in Orgrimmar then bring them a book... not that Epic, other than flying accross the Ocean. Yes the quests do tie in to a larger story which I will give credit to, thats pretty cool, but its really just sweeping the garbage under a nice carpet.
What I did like about WoW was the graphics (Ya i bash the graphics cause their old, so sue me), the quests did make me feel like I was part of somethign important (even though there are a couple thousand others doing the exact things I was), leveling is easy, and the world was fairly big... but due to its repetative gameplay, and little innovation it just couldnt sway me to buy retail (if you dont remember I was in OB). I will admit I did like WoW, but it would have gotten old for me quick."
This is the kind of stuff I been hearing over and over again from friends and coworkers who are fanboys and not-so-fanboys. Fun, good graphics but easy. KEYWORDS: FUN, GRAPHICS, EASY. When is it gonna sink into your skull that the game is E A S Y?