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This game should be Re-Reviewd
No.r
Member Posts: 14
Seriously im tired of how much bad reputation a MMORPG can get from a bad review they carry after a bad release , im wondering if major critic's website do another review of a MMO after a while to check out how they had grow .
Just like AOC we all know how bad things started from the first days with the constant bugs and the incredible need of PC requirments due to memory leaks back in the days , and content missing...
The developers have really been working hard and the game has been shaped very good and i just cant stand that people still judge this game badly from the start by looking at the bad reviews it had , its ok to understand that some people may like it some others no , but the major issues that degraded this wonderfull game have dissapeared.
Lets just hope when they get a new campaign underway they remake some reviews of the game so we can all catch how much we been missing from AOC because of a bad reputation at first stages...
just my opinion i love the game it has his minimum flaws now but hey who doesnt nothing is perfect...
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I think most are waiting for the patch 1.05 or 1.5 whichever it is supposed to be.
That patch is supposed to be the big one to fix and add many things so I would guess the re-review would be better off after that comes out. At least that is what I think things are waiting on and I know a few friends and I are also waiting to see what that patch brings.
Out of every 100 men, 10 should not be there,
80 are nothing but targets, 9 are the real fighters.
Ah, but one, ONE of them is a warrior,
and he will bring the others home.
-Heraclitus 500BC
Any game that is going to released with as many problems as this one had deserves to be hated on. I bough the collectors edition because I love the lore of Conan and the ideas they had about mature gaming. I'm sure this game has improved leaps and bounds, made subscribers happy and got new content. But the bottom line is:
If you release a game that's basically beta you shouldn't expect people to pay 15 dollars a month for a year before they start getting happy about what they see.
A re-review won't make people come running back. They scarred their image and deservingly so.
excuse me, unless your using the computer for mmo's please get off.
I totally agree with you , im just saying it would be more objectively to do another check on the game after some time about how it has been improving or doing wrong...
in the aspect of this particular game i would say it has improved
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I For one will be retrying AoC when the patch hits live
i heard 1.06 is the push to get some of the Vets back and then expansion due q4/q1 of 2010 ... none the less we shall see how Failcom does this time
maybe they could restore some hope in what was a most brilliant game
Save a Tree.... Eat a Beaver
I wouldn't mind seeing a re-review after the big patch. I don't care if it helps ppl try the game once again or not. I re-subbed after reading good remarks from these forums and the offical forums. I was one of the guys that got the CE of the game and quite withing the first month. I have to say the game is amazing now
I'm quite glad to not see AoC and Ellingson's face every other day on the mainpage of mmorpg.com anymore. It was an absolute overkill that days.
They have had their chance, they lied to us BIG TIME and they got what they deserved. No need for a re-review in my opinion (plus the reviews soon after release were surprisingly mostly positive), just bury it down deep.
They should compensate every last penny of the pump and dump they did when promoting and releasing this disaster of a game.
This game is Bernie Madoff all over.
Sad. All you haters keep on hating while those of us that enjoy the game will continue to have fun. I really think it is sad how much hate people have for Funcom or the game. "They lied to us!" Get over it.
SWG is not the same game it was when I first played it but I dont go around spewing hate for the game or for SOE.
"I don't give a sh*t what other people say. I play what I like and I'll pay to do it too!" - SerialMMOist
Its not just that they lied, they were decieving as to how large a game this was.... heck I'd play Anarchy online WAYYYY before this game again.. at least you get a feeling of freedom in that mmo (AO) this game is like a ride.. pushing you thru areas down a shute... these types of games are goin by the wayside... and the amount of instances needs to stop.. i dont mind some instances but it gets alittle out of control.. the maps are very decieving as they show a HUGE area and then you are in like some sort a small pin point of that map... conan is a HUGE world filled with lore... i see hundreds of people crying out for huge games and something different.. many are returning to OLDER mmos's because they gave us so much... take note Funcom ...
Sad... What's sad?
Do you truely believe all the bad rep hit a small'ish norwegian company because of a few "haters"? I am sorry: IMO THAT is a sad line of thought!
AoC has improved a lot (performancewise etc.) since launch but the core has remained the same. Once patch 1.05 and 1.06 has been implemented a re-re-review would be nice. I would definately read it but then... Same goes for just about any other MMORPG.
We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)
I love how people who hate funcom or AoC think that it shouldn't be re-reviewed.
How about this...what if MMORPG said that they refused to re-review the game YOU are currently playing and having fun with because of some personal vendetta. You'd be up in arms.
so that's sort of how we feel. We love this game, despite whatever funcom did at launch. We want to see it grow and prosper and we want to see our community become larger.
We are just like the rest of the MMO gamers. We want to see our game succeed. I don't go to your games forum and bash it, all I ask is that you don't come to my game's forum and bash it.
Please, give a review of the game. Tell us where you had problems. Tell us the ways in which Funcom lied to you or w/e.
just please...don't come here every...single...day...and bash the game that we love. your reviews will be seen. Those people your are trying to warn will see it and they will make their own judgement.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
Once 1.05 is active and debugged that would probably be a good idea.
I miss DAoC
As long as the re-review is honest, I'm all for it. The MMO genre is pretty barren atm, and even games that are enjoyable are lacking the population to fully realize the experience. I don't exactly like how every failing game has fans who continually insist that 'next patch will make everything better', every time a new patch is released, if the game changes significantly enough I think it would warrant a re-review.
AoC could be a really awesome game, but my passed experience with funcom leaves me doubtful it will turn around in time to really save itself.
Age of Conan... basically the same game at launch, except it now runs better.
There's the re-review.... best wait until the expansion comes out tbh, then you'll have the content to actually make a meaningful change in the rating of the game
I totally agree with you , im just saying it would be more objectively to do another check on the game after some time about how it has been improving or doing wrong...
in the aspect of this particular game i would say it has improved
I agree with both of you.
And what if the re-review doesn't go well. Funcom slathers more lipstick on this pig and prances it back out for a re-re-review? Nope, sorry. They had their chance: a decent franchise license, good resources, and ample development time. They failed and they deserve the consequences.
I totally agree with you , im just saying it would be more objectively to do another check on the game after some time about how it has been improving or doing wrong...
in the aspect of this particular game i would say it has improved
I agree with both of you.
And what if the re-review doesn't go well. Funcom slathers more lipstick on this pig and prances it back out for a re-re-review? Nope, sorry. They had their chance: a decent franchise license, good resources, and ample development time. They failed and they deserve the consequences.
people throw the word "fail" around WAY too much.
the servers are still up. More content is still being added. It's not over until the fat lady sings...or closes down the servers.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
I haven't read an honest "endgame is awesome now" thread so no, I'll still wait till then
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
I don't really understand why people becomes so dramatical about the launch problems they have had. Sure, they promised more then they could deliver and had a lot of problems, but it's not the first game to do so. I don't get why people believe this game doesn't deserve another chance.
I do agree with all the negative comments on how the game turned out at launch though.
They wouldn't have released it in this state if they could choose themself, but as this is a stock/public company, there are limits on how long they can delay a release.
Most of us doesn't know the hardship of making games and how much work is put into them.
Back to the topic. I hope the review it again after the next major patch
We're upset and understandably so because we paid for a product and it didn't do what it promised. Yes other games had bad problems at launch and I'm not playing those either.
No one is "targeting" this game. It just feels like it because you like and play this game. I'm equally critical on all games I play. Especially subrsiption games. If you want money monthly you need to deliver period. I don't want to waste my money and my time on a game that doesn't deserve it.
If you can play a game that has "promise" or is "average" and send them your money every month. Then good for you. I can't.
Most people where I work don't know the hardships of me keeping the servers up and running 24-7, they know they they need them to work and they better work. And damnit they do. I'm not gonna feel bad for game developers. They make good money, they chose their profession. It's a cut throat industry with impossible deadlines, horrendous hours and endless frustrations ... but we see alot of good games come out all the time. If you want the pride and joy of being on top you sacrifice.
When they decide to give me a free month and invite me back to play on my CE account I'll come back because everyone deserves another chance.
Just not a paid one. I gave them that ...
excuse me, unless your using the computer for mmo's please get off.
The quality of an MMO at launch make or break it, nothing will change that. All the popular MMOs around now were fun and content filled at launch and their good rep has stuck. AoC had an awful launch, so it will most likely be stuck with that rep forever now.
If they are going to re-review it the game needs a lot more polishing, it's still FAR from the quality of wow/war or any of the other popular MMOs. On top of that AoC just lacks character and most people loose interest after a couple of weeks playing it, it takes itself to seriously for a game.
Also the monthly fee is kinda steep, it's on par with other more popular and complete MMOs (like WoW, CoV, EVE, etc) so it's not doing itself any favours. They need to be doing more to encourage new players, because the more players a MMO has, the more players it will attract in turn. They are not going to tempt people away from WoW, when WoW is a far more polished and content filled game that costs the same price and all their mates are playing it.
The game deserves to start getting re-reviews, there is no doubt its getting better.
AoC had very good feedback from GDC (Game Developers Conference) 2009.
The only thing the haters will ever care about it how the launch was lol The rest of us can enjoy a good game even if share-holders pushed for early release and marketing screwed up. Comon, it was a year ago..
Actually, I don't think any game deserves a re-review, and no , I wouldn't give a crap if MMORPG.com or any other company refused to re-review whatever my favorite MMO is after a disastrous launch. Gamers need to send these devs and publishers a message that it is unacceptable to release unfinished and buggy PoS, which even rational fans of the game acknowledge AoC was at launch.
For the record, I resubbed for a month 1.5 weeks ago after rage quitting when my initial time expired to check it out. It certainly performs better and there doesn't seem to be a lack of content yet (my highest level toon is 50), although judging by Global chat, there still seem to be large quest gaps based on the number of people complaining about the villa grind. There's certainly still a lot of problems with the game. I started a new Necro to experience the game as a new player, since after being gone for 11 months I would certainly feel like a noob again anyway. My negatives:
1) No LFG, Trade, or Advice channels. Seriously, having to put up with Global to find a group or trying to get an answer to a question makes me feel like logging off after a few minutes. I can't imagine the total cess pool the OOC channel must be. To be fair, most of the time I have gotten helpful answers if I didn't miss the response through all the inane spam.
2) Itemization still sucks horribly. I know 1.05 is supposed to somewhat address this, but I still find same color gear 10-15 levels higher than what I already had that isn't as good, especially in the 1-30 areas. It doesn't seem as drastic now that I'm level 50. I did get a pretty sweet looking robe in the Sanctum, so at least I don't look homeless anymore. It still bothers me that there are low level NPCs that had better looking gear than I did.
3) Quest log. You can still only have 30 quests? You've got to be kidding me. I thought LotRO with 40ish was low. I went Armorcrafter as soon as I hit level 40 and immediately hit my quest log cap. There must be 15 separate AC quests. At least make crafting and gathering quests not count against the limit.
4) Resource gathering. They need to up the drop rates of some of the materials. I hit the resource zones to get the gathering quests as soon as I hit Stygia at level 22 and didn't get 20 rough leather until level 39. I'm now level 50 and still no brindled leather. I bought one from the AH, but to my horror, the NPC doesn't recognize me as gathering it, so I STILL can't finish the level 20 skinner quest lol. It took me 183 ash to get an ebon ash, but managed to get 7 sacred ash in that same group, whatever they are.
5) Crafting. My level 40 armor I made for the most part isn't as good as same level world drops. I think one piece was somewhat better than I already had and that was a level 30 piece I believe. Are there dyes in the game yet?
6) Still too many invisible walls in the world. Seems like it's better than at launch, though. Still too much zoning, but I know that will never change.
7) Not enough bag/storage space. Nuff said.
8) Attention to detail. I reported a weapon seller NPC in the Cimmerian starter zone as being unresponsive LAST MAY and he still doesn't work.
9) Lag spikes. No, it's not my internet because while I get SOME lag in other MMOs I've played, this one is by far the worst, and I live in New Jersey so the servers aren't that far from me. I feel like I'm playing LotRO sometimes waiting for everyone to do their fellowship manuevers when everything on my screen just stops for 5 seconds or so all the time. I'm hesitant to run a healer in a group with that lag. The test server lag is absolutely brutal.
Now the positives:
1) I am pleased with the performance of the client now for the most part, although lag spikes are horrible at times as pointed out earlier. I get good frame rates no matter what is going on. Of course, no massive PvP for me yet, so I guess that will be the REAL test.
2) The quests and quest dialog are pretty good, and the dungeons look good and are fun. The PvE at its' core is good.
3) Graphics, animations, character models, and sound of course, are fantastic. Still only running DX9 because I'm not running a test version of DX10 on live servers.
4) Only one client crash since I've reactivated. No more gray maps of death, although I do get whited out map sections semi regularly that go away on their own, and I don't crash or get OOM errors.
5) I actually had a good GM experience with a bugged quest. I got a response and fix in literally 2 minutes from the time I submitted the petition. Definitely improved since launch in that department.
I'll probably stick with the game for a month or two, unless 1.05 still isn't live. Speaking of which, the test patch still needs serious work IMO. I swear about 1/3 of my spells were being resisted by equal and lower level mobs.
On a different note, I don't see the growing game I see people claiming. I never saw more than two instances of any zone I was in this past weekend (Wiccana), and a few times there was only one.
Well, I have to admit that this game still have far to go before turning into the game I hoped it would be, but I feel sorry for the developers that are doing their best fixing whatever they broke before launch. I bet if the developers/programmers could decide, they would have waited at least a couple of months with the release, but I doubt they had any choice
I'm a share holder in Funcom and lost quite a bit of money, but I still hope and believe they have what it takes to crawl out of the dirt hole they fell into ^^
They failed and they learned from it
Ok, so I'm a bit tired right now, so what I just wrote might just sound/look plain stupid. Sorry
Just let me finish by saying; Please continue the Dream Fall/Longest journey story! Pretty please!