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News flash! Darkfall IS crap.
You know what's kinda making me frustrated right now? The "logic" and spin that is being used to discredit people who actaully have an honest (and negative opinion) of this game.
I don't normally kick something when its down but the Tasos rant along with the backlash has made me think otherwise. This is the most unprofessional whine I have ever seen from a developer. The game is crap, lots of people feel it.....he should have taken it on the chin while keeping his jaw shut. Instead he tries to detract from the short comings of his game by attacking the reviewer (who seems to be in the wrong as well).
It seems now that AV is playing classical dis info by going after the reviewer instead of the points that many people know and see about this game.
Let me put it to you simply. I do feel i was SCAMMED out of my money. Now I take full responsibility for this because I'm the jack ass who actaully parted with my money to buy this game (almost 70$ Canadian I might add). I waited in line as they artifically limited the sales to give the illusion of demand. I played the game as they randomly decided to take down servers with no advance warning. I sat in their piece of crap queues (which have been fixed....I will give them). I searched around the landscape looking for content to engage in other than mindless ganking......at the time I couldnt find any spawns that a> worked properly b> worked at all.
I've watched this community start off large as many hoped it would be the 3d UO we all want so dam bad. I saw it weed down to the hardcores that are there. All the time a rather large group of people with social skills akin to tree slugs berate anyone who didnt talk in l33t speak and feel the same way they do.
If Tasos expected the people his company ripped off to sit back idly while he discredits the Eurogamer review as complete bias then he's made a very serious mistake.
EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW THIS GAME WAS ADVERTISED WAS MISLEADING. I do not typically generalize communities in games. I think its like walking into Walmart and trying to caste everyone with the same brush. Darkfall is different.....the community has a large number of idiots....a lot of them spout crap here each day. Many of them are playing Quake online or are %100 pvp ffa clan warfare. Ok, if the game was always marketed as just quake III in MMO clothes, fine, but it wasnt.....it was suposed to be a MMO.
I expect part of the reason the features listed on their website (which STILL is not updated) is due to the fact they had to launch earlier than they wanted to. I don't blame them for running out of money. However, that does not change the fact that this game is a halfbaked bastardization of a mmo desinged for socio paths and FPS players. The features are misleading, the idea you can be a small fish in big world is misleading........the whole notion that this IS A mmo is misleading.
The graphics are not as bad as people say but the UI is. Hint: MS DOS was replaced with a GUI for a reason.
This game encompasses none of the lessons learned from 10 years of commercial mmos. They threw the baby out with the bath water and are trying to pass of tedium as hardcore.
dont waste your money and dont believe the hype. Despite the (apparent) underhandedness of the Eurogamer review, much of the spirit ofthe review is accurate.
I just had to get that off my chest.
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So you done right?
There are several thing I find confusing about all this but the one in the context of this post is why people who dont like the game actually care one way or the other passed maybe a day of venting.
We understand you dont like the game, we assume you understand that you can not logically convince us that we should dislike the game and we dont care who thinks we are disfunctional for liking it.
As far as being scammed out of your money here is a few games that I feel I was scammed out of:
(not in order)
NeverWinter Nights 2, Crysis, Fallout, STALKER, Oblvion.
Now, granted I am insane for thinking that but the fact remains , I to have felt scammed. But the thing is, ITS ONLY $50!
All this said it only leaves me with one question, what game are you going to play instead.
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if the mmorpg forums were made up of only people playing games they liked and were only talking about games they liked these forums would look very different wouldnt they?
We could all smoke pot and paint pictures of rainbows on our carebear tshirts humming the theme song to EQ1 or even Stones1.midi
Dude paid $50 for this crap.
Dude has a right to complain.
I added information to my reply. Sorry I didnt get it completed until everyone started responding.
I to have feel I have been ripped off from other games but I assure in the long run $50 isnt crap.
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Dude paid $50 for this crap.
Dude has a right to complain.
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Just because you're able to afford it and not regret it, doesn't mean everyone else is.
Well if you went off the website which wasn't updated in ages, that's kindof your fault for not researching more.
But the game is definately not even CLOSE to as great Tasos says it is, thats for sure. I donno, try and sue AV for false advertizing by having an out of date website, if you win it will cause AV to wake up or sell their game to a company with a clue.
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Oh, by the way, OP, if you paid via creditcard, phone them up and ask them for a refund based on the outdated website.
If they try and argue, quote your right to being able to get money back if the goods promised aren't delivered.
oh my god you guys are some seroious broke bastards who have never taken an economics class.
its $50 dollars! Instead of trying to sue use the same time to get a part time job. You will cover your costs in a few hours if you have any skills
logic like that ensures that new crap games will be abound.
I rather use $50 to offer a good restaurant to the ones I love than to waste it to feed some bad developpers who made a crappy unfinished mess of a game. Not to mention that by feeding those guys, you encourage other developpers to do the same.
By the way, I'm selling bags of dog shit, fresh made by my own dog, $50 per bag. Interested? Come on, it's "only" $50!
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oh my god you guys are some seroious broke bastards who have never taken an economics class.
its $50 dollars! Instead of trying to sue use the same time to get a part time job. You will cover your costs in a few hours if you have any skills
logic like that ensures that new crap games will be abound.
It already does! GTA4 is a classic example
I spent $150 on games just last year with rave reviews that I ended up hating.
gaming is cheap man, as a hobby its insanely cheap
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This.
I had a friend who used to work for Visa, they have a crack team of folks who would be more than happy to deny Adventurine their money if you deam it needed.
It's one thing to state that you don't like a video game. It's another to repeatedly insult and berate others for liking it, which is what the majority of the anti-DF crowd does.
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It's one thing to state that you don't like a video game. It's another to repeatedly insult and berate others for liking it, which is what the majority of the anti-DF crowd does.
Can you start calling us the anti-bad game crowd instead of the anti-DF crowd......thanks
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True enough though in all honesty you don't really have to read about it if you dont want too.
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It's one thing to state that you don't like a video game. It's another to repeatedly insult and berate others for liking it, which is what the majority of the anti-DF crowd does.
Can you start calling us the anti-bad game crowd instead of the anti-DF crowd......thanks
In general, most games are bad including the ones that sell like crazy
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It's one thing to state that you don't like a video game. It's another to repeatedly insult and berate others for liking it, which is what the majority of the anti-DF crowd does.
How about the other way round?
The DF supporters are here to berate anyone for no believing their royal ark. They simply won't let ppl talk unless it is in praise. Actually, they have to kill the world because of a 2/10.
DF evokes very passionate responses, with some foik really liking it for what it offers, and others like the OP hate it for what it lacks.
True for all games I suppose and its hard to say what you will enjoy, unless you can give it a try. (hoping one day DF manages to hold one.)
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oh my god you guys are some seroious broke bastards who have never taken an economics class.
its $50 dollars! Instead of trying to sue use the same time to get a part time job. You will cover your costs in a few hours if you have any skills
Its not about the consumer losing $50, its about the company taking $50 by false advertisement.
If I get scammed out by a company after buying their game for false advertisement, I'd want my money back, not necessarly because the $50 are a big deal(they arent), but mostly because it'd feel buttraped if that company ran away with my money, and I didnt do shit about it.
The rules of Debate are really simple; once you have to stoop to insults instead of facts, logic, or reason to try and win your argument, you've lost.
Whoa, NWN2 was great. Crysis - great. Fallout (3 I assume) - great. STALKER - Not great. Oblivion - great (though it didn't hold my attention long)
Those are facts above
I think we can all agree that this game consists of pure raw absolute failure.
Time to move on and let this shitpile die.
oh my god you guys are some seroious broke bastards who have never taken an economics class.
its $50 dollars! Instead of trying to sue use the same time to get a part time job. You will cover your costs in a few hours if you have any skills
you guys seriously missed the point, if AV gets sued/ gets a serious fine, they may wake up from their horrible handling of the game and start acting professionally, or sell the game to a professional company.
When I'm energetic I'm:
the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
When I'm at default I'm:
WHITE/BLUE
Lol according to this I'm bipolar :O
OP I would do a CC chargeback. The game is clearly nowhere close to how it is being advertised on thier website.
oh my god you guys are some seroious broke bastards who have never taken an economics class.
its $50 dollars! Instead of trying to sue use the same time to get a part time job. You will cover your costs in a few hours if you have any skills
you guys seriously missed the point, if AV gets sued/ gets a serious fine, they may wake up from their horrible handling of the game and start acting professionally, or sell the game to a professional company.
My only fault with this is: If other independent companies realizes that they can be sued for not delivering said product, we won't have anymore small niche games. The bigger companies seem to follow the MMO standard these days. I would like to see some diversity and I think its gonna be the independent companies that bring that to the table.
I can see your point though. Aventurine made some lofty promises, and has failed to deliver on many of those. The billing fiasco was just another failure. I can see people wanting compensation.
It's one thing to state that you don't like a video game. It's another to repeatedly insult and berate others for liking it, which is what the majority of the anti-DF crowd does.
Really? because going through this entire thread all i saw was ONE "fanboy" calling people names and trolling three other topics in order to berate and belittle anyone who doesn't agree with him mthat DF "rules" and calling their topics "confusing", and his name is Seanmcad. In case you missed it here is the link before it gets reported: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2824038#2824038
I see perhaps you are just biased and indeed trolling for support?
Not all of us DF players are ignorant forum trolls who only come to verbally abuse others.