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$11 Trillion National Debt. $1.9 is a smoke screen.
Benthane
Member Posts: 22
So much attention on the Deficit, many people loose sight of the bigger picture.
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I also wanted to point out that the amount per person owed is for everyone, whether they are working or not. We have 306million people in the US and only about 170million actually work. This number is found here www.fedstats.gov/qf/states/53000.html.
$11 trillion can only really come from the working people of 170million which puts the amount per person about $65,000 per person thats even capable of contributing. The average amount of Personal Income per capita which includes value of assests like cars and homes is $35,000. So if you sold all your stuff, lived on the street, kept your job, you would have $35,000 on average per person, OUCH. And we still would not have paid the bill if we handed that money over.
Now you include the interest on the $11 trillion. Now try to pay it off............um, not gonna happen.
So, now that you know what the problem is, what do you think they are going to do? Is there an alternative? Are we going to loose it all? Will we be changed from a Democracy to Anarchy or Communism? There have been many many hints on the proposal of a New World Order, could this have been all masterminded?
There are a few videos you can watch that might give you a better idea of what is going to happen. Do a search for "The Obama Deception" on video.google.com and others by Alex Jones, the infowars guy that has had many videos banned because of certain interest groups. And for a look into what may be planned watch "Zeitgeist Addendum".
Our current way of life will soon be over.
You think this is a bad thing while I think not.
Plenty of things in our current society need to be changed. Societies and civilizations must constantly evolve. There is no way that a capitalistic society does not eat itself over time due to inherent greed it is built upon, with little regard for the fellow man.
I'm sure when the South saw slavery abolished with the Emancipation Proclamation and their main source of cheap labor go "poof", many slaveowners thought "Our current way of life will soon be over."
Thank God for our country's sake, they were right.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Actually, I don't necessarily think it is a bad thing as long as it goes in a good direction. We know the economy, capitalistic system, or whatever is effected is going to have a huge makeover. Hopefully we establish something that will allow for prosperity for everyone and not just the elites.
Benthane: I would still like you answers on the other thread. DId you watch those 2 videos I linked?
We are too ignorant
Of course I did. You can pick apart anything anyone says, any media given, and create a conspiracy theory out of it. Those Video's you sent are just one more example of that. Whether Zeitgeist is wrong or the people that disproved Zeitgeist are wrong it really doesn't matter. They were defending what they believe and from your reaction did a very good job to counter attack another belief system.
What one is true does not matter. What matters is we have a big problem and we need to decide on the right path. I appreciate your videos, I have already watched them before, because of course there are many topics relating to those and other similar videos not only that but the counter effect on their web sites as well.
If you believe what is told in Revelations you would also know and understand that Satan will pit government against government, religion against religion, brother against brother.
I am urging everyone to understand all sides and how to protect yourself. Do not take any violent action, do not put yourself in the line of fire. If there is war around you, Hide do not fight. Do not go out into the street unless you want to be taken away and made to fight.
There may be truth to many predictions, maybe they just understood human nature by observing past historic events and know that it will replicate.
Watch the news, go to different news sites news.bbc.co.uk/ and your local news, go to Government websites and watch or read everything that sticks out, go to sites like prisonplanet.tv and other alternative sites. You can formulate whats going on by watching many things.
I agree. Sometimes, there needs to be some "blood letting" now and then regarding economies. All economies in history fall at some point, dooming the relative societies that use them. Even Rome had a great deal of trade amongst merchants locally and internationally, but their military, social and infrastructure needs eventually brought that down with greed. Just like today in America, in ancient Rome there came a point where the rich got richer, and the poor got poorer. The U.S. just reached that point so far much faster than they did.
We are reluctant to trim the size of our modern military, while at the same time we've been getting soaked by the defense contractors who made our very weapons. This has caused a mindset that we must continue to pay whatever those contractors hold us hostage for to maintain our military.
Stocks revolve a great deal around greed and those involved in them aren't after the "common good", but only for individual gains so there's no limit ethically to what the vast majority of them will do. They will cheat and lie to move into position to gain financial advantages even if illegal. Once they have made their illegal millions (billions), they will then hide a great portion of it from paying proper taxes. When caught, they still have many avenues where they have hidden those monies so as not to fully pay restitution. This system we have now has always had the potential for doom, as the very nature of it relies on a rich man to have a conscience towards his fellow man. Some do, but the vast majority in the United States are unconcerned with that.
I believe it definitely is time for a shakeup amongst the top tiers. This happens throughout history one way or the other, through revolution of the citizenry, or abject failure of the government. I honestly hope it could be achieved through peaceful, governmental measures.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Just as a quibble, Benthane...
The extremes of government are not anarchy to one side and communism to the other. They are anarchy to one side and *totalitarianism* on the other. Communism is a type of far-left, totalitarian government; it is not the only type.
Its just a matter of time before a president or congress will have to raise income tax to 20 percent or so......The deficit cant just keep spiralling out of control forever.......