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SOE padding the numbers with inactive Station accounts.

Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278

I'd urge all of you who have had station accounts in the past to go and see if you are a subscriber of FreeRealms. I checked mine (looking for a SWG vet trial activation) and discovered I'm 'playing' FreeRealms. I reported this on other boards in cyberspace and others after checking have discovered the same thing.

Now, I personally don't care if they send me an email saying they've activated my account to make it easier for me to log in and give it a go, but that's not what they're doing here. This is sleazy (as per SOE usual).

This is padding the numbers to convince people that 'everyone is playing FreeRealms'.

Not cool.

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  • ZarinhZarinh Member UncommonPosts: 109

    Someone asked this on the FR forums, and Pex said only those who have logged into the game and played are counted in that total.  Station Access accounts are member accounts, but unless they have logged in, they don't count for the total registered accounts.

  • ZarkiZarki Member UncommonPosts: 30

    Or what the person above me said. 

  • junzo316junzo316 Member UncommonPosts: 1,712

    Wow....SoE is smarter than I thought.  Giving all station accounts Free Realms in order to "pad" their numbers....ingenius.  I would gather that many other companies wished they could do this with their games.  I'm actually surprised....great business move by SoE.

     

    On the other hand, this only gives more ammunition to those that don't trust SoE.  I don't think anything illegal was done.  Just something a bit sneaky.

     

  • todeswulftodeswulf Member Posts: 715
    Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw


    I'd urge all of you who have had station accounts in the past to go and see if you are a subscriber of FreeRealms. I checked mine (looking for a SWG vet trial activation) and discovered I'm 'playing' FreeRealms. I reported this on other boards in cyberspace and others after checking have discovered the same thing.
    Now, I personally don't care if they send me an email saying they've activated my account to make it easier for me to log in and give it a go, but that's not what they're doing here. This is sleazy (as per SOE usual).
    This is padding the numbers to convince people that 'everyone is playing FreeRealms'.
    Not cool.

     

    You are a lair.

    They are only counting those that have logged in the game and created a Character.  Give me emperical evidence to the contary or be exposed as a Compensated  Anti-SOE Shill.

  • Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278
    Originally posted by todeswulf

    Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw


    I'd urge all of you who have had station accounts in the past to go and see if you are a subscriber of FreeRealms. I checked mine (looking for a SWG vet trial activation) and discovered I'm 'playing' FreeRealms. I reported this on other boards in cyberspace and others after checking have discovered the same thing.
    Now, I personally don't care if they send me an email saying they've activated my account to make it easier for me to log in and give it a go, but that's not what they're doing here. This is sleazy (as per SOE usual).
    This is padding the numbers to convince people that 'everyone is playing FreeRealms'.
    Not cool.

     

    You are a lair.

    They are only counting those that have logged in the game and created a Character.  Give me emperical evidence to the contary or be exposed as a Compensated  Anti-SOE Shill.

    To say I'm a shill would imply I'm getting paid for this, when I'm doing this out of the goodness of my heart ;)

    I don't frequent the FR boards, so I would not know of any statement to refute my statement other than what the second and third posters replied with.

    Quite honestly, I would LOVE to be paid for bashing SOE (if there is somebody reading this who is willing to pay me for it please send me a PM and we'll talk).

    Also, I don't lie. I make assumptions based on the evidence at hand, but I don't lie. Good thing about being a 'paid anti-SOE shill' is that I'd never have to lie, just show facts.

  • WolfdorWolfdor Member Posts: 123

    Huh, I just checked my SOE account and it has me listed as an active member of Free Realms as well.  That 1 million number doesn't seem so special now.

  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154

    More power to them, pad the numbers all they want.  Not that it makes an ounce of difference anyway.

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  • TdogSkalTdogSkal Member UncommonPosts: 1,244
    Originally posted by Wolfdor


    Huh, I just checked my SOE account and it has me listed as an active member of Free Realms as well.  That 1 million number doesn't seem so special now.

     

    Yea your account is "active" but it is not counted.  You have to have a charater created to be counted.  But keep hating on SOE as I am sure they are the only compane that pads their numbers.

    You guys need to get over the NGE thing already.  Dam

    Sooner or Later

  • todeswulftodeswulf Member Posts: 715
    Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

    Originally posted by todeswulf

    Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw


    I'd urge all of you who have had station accounts in the past to go and see if you are a subscriber of FreeRealms. I checked mine (looking for a SWG vet trial activation) and discovered I'm 'playing' FreeRealms. I reported this on other boards in cyberspace and others after checking have discovered the same thing.
    Now, I personally don't care if they send me an email saying they've activated my account to make it easier for me to log in and give it a go, but that's not what they're doing here. This is sleazy (as per SOE usual).
    This is padding the numbers to convince people that 'everyone is playing FreeRealms'.
    Not cool.

     

    You are a lair.

    They are only counting those that have logged in the game and created a Character.  Give me emperical evidence to the contary or be exposed as a Compensated  Anti-SOE Shill.

    To say I'm a shill would imply I'm getting paid for this, when I'm doing this out of the goodness of my heart ;)

    I don't frequent the FR boards, so I would not know of any statement to refute my statement other than what the second and third posters replied with.

    Quite honestly, I would LOVE to be paid for bashing SOE (if there is somebody reading this who is willing to pay me for it please send me a PM and we'll talk).

    Also, I don't lie. I make assumptions based on the evidence at hand, but I don't lie. Good thing about being a 'paid anti-SOE shill' is that I'd never have to lie, just show facts.

    Yes facts where is your proof again? show us proof that SOE is counting more than those that logged in and created a character in that 1 mil and you will have credibility.  If you can't you are just a sad waste who is throwing a tantrum because SOE broke your Wookiee, as well as a lair.

  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Originally posted by todeswulf

      Give me emperical evidence to the contary ...

     

    I'd like to see the same as well.

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  • todeswulftodeswulf Member Posts: 715
    Originally posted by TdogSkal

    Originally posted by Wolfdor


    Huh, I just checked my SOE account and it has me listed as an active member of Free Realms as well.  That 1 million number doesn't seem so special now.

     

    Yea your account is "active" but it is not counted.  You have to have a charater created to be counted.  But keep hating on SOE as I am sure they are the only compane that pads their numbers.

    You guys need to get over the NGE thing already.  Dam

     

    They can't. I mean it is to laugh.... can't you just see that fat Comic shop guy type preaching the evils of SOE to a little girl that just wants to play FreeRealms?  That my friend is the empitome of  sad.

  • WolfdorWolfdor Member Posts: 123
    Originally posted by TdogSkal

    Originally posted by Wolfdor


    Huh, I just checked my SOE account and it has me listed as an active member of Free Realms as well.  That 1 million number doesn't seem so special now.

     

    Yea your account is "active" but it is not counted.  You have to have a charater created to be counted.  But keep hating on SOE as I am sure they are the only compane that pads their numbers.

    You guys need to get over the NGE thing already.  Dam

     

    Whoa, back off the nerd rage kid before you hurt yourself.  Who said I'm a SOE hater?  I'm still a proud subscriber of SWG even after the NGE, and also looking forward to both DCUO and The Agency.  All I did was confirm that my account was also flagged as active, even though I never played the game.  If my chidren were under the age of 10, I would probably even have a subscription to this Free Realms.  So i'm not sure how that makes me a hater of your "compane". 

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    SOE is giving these one million accts .. 200 SC

    www.soepress.com/release.asp

    999,999 players will receive a matching pet T-shirt for their four-legged friends, and 200 Station Cash

     

    SC does not make a distinction to what game it applies to

     

    so if the Op finds themselves with an extra 200 SC in the next few days

    then I would agree with Op - otherwise they are probably mistaken

  • punkbrad7punkbrad7 Member UncommonPosts: 14
    Originally posted by Nadia


    SOE is giving these one million accts .. 200 SC
    www.soepress.com/release.asp
    999,999 players will receive a matching pet T-shirt for their four-legged friends, and 200 Station Cash
     
    SC does not make a distinction to what game it applies to
     
    so if the Op finds themselves with an extra 200 SC in the next few days
    then I would agree with Op - otherwise they are probably mistaken

     

    They're giving it to everyone.  You also have to actually join those million players and create a character for Free Realms to get it.

  • kefkahkefkah Member UncommonPosts: 832

    Whether or not they are counting in various sources, the real issue with these numbers will be:

    1. If one million free customers will recomp SOE's costs for development and the incredible amount that they are spending in PR on this thing. Factoring in commercials on Cartoon Network and all of the advertising on game mags and websites - it ought to be a pretty penny.

    2. If the one million registrants stay long. As it is marketed to a younger audience, that number will fluctuate wildly as previous history and data shows that they bounce around alot.

    Time will tell of course.

  • EricDanieEricDanie Member UncommonPosts: 2,238

    So many things to troll about, you had to really talk about account numbers on a free-to-play game?

     

  • todeswulftodeswulf Member Posts: 715
    Originally posted by kefkah


    Whether or not they are counting in various sources, the real issue with these numbers will be:
    1. If one million free customers will recomp SOE's costs for development and the incredible amount that they are spending in PR on this thing. Factoring in commercials on Cartoon Network and all of the advertising on game mags and websites - it ought to be a pretty penny.
    2. If the one million registrants stay long. As it is marketed to a younger audience, that number will fluctuate wildly as previous history and data shows that they bounce around alot.
    Time will tell of course.

     

    Well that is a very good point. I know here in NY you can not find station Cash Cards or the FR TCG decks or booster packs, they have both been sold out since they hit the store and certain Non digitized FR cards are going for an insane amount. But SOE did invest a significant sum in the devlopment of FR and if folks only play the free part it will be a huge loss. Still it looks liek SOE is off to a good start.

  • ummaxummax Member Posts: 779

    hehe ohhh myy long weekend gives people time to create new fiction despite what is written in black and white.  

    Its interesting how this forum has suddnely exploded in a flury on a monday which is a long weekend for many in north america.  

    I will point out what has already pointed out though

    1) its been confirmed that inactive station accounts are not being counted only active ones where people actually created a character

    2) free games dont usually die no matter how hard you want it to die

    3) its receiving massive amounts of siphoned traffic and the number of servers at prime time goes up, does not remain the same and traffic rises .

    okay well i'm going back to my planting now.   I guess the SWG vets forum isn't gamey enough today to keep them occurpied there so got to come and post fiction here to try to stir people up. 

     

  • TdogSkalTdogSkal Member UncommonPosts: 1,244
    Originally posted by ummax


    hehe ohhh myy long weekend gives people time to create new fiction despite what is written in black and white.  
    Its interesting how this forum has suddnely exploded in a flury on a monday which is a long weekend for many in north america.  
    I will point out what has already pointed out though
    1) its been confirmed that inactive station accounts are not being counted only active ones where people actually created a character
    2) free games dont usually die no matter how hard you want it to die
    3) its receiving massive amounts of siphoned traffic and the number of servers at prime time goes up, does not remain the same and traffic rises .
    okay well i'm going back to my planting now.   I guess the SWG vets forum isn't gamey enough today to keep them occurpied there so got to come and post fiction here to try to stir people up. 
     

     

    Umm the long weekend is next weekend here in North America.

    Sooner or Later

  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,022

          SOE has always used the station access to its benefit as far as subscribers go........If they have 100k station access accounts then they would count all of those as active subscribers in every game........Its one of the downsides to having a program like that because you never actually know how well their games are doing........Alot of us have always wondered jsut how many subs games liek Vanguard, EQ1, and EQ2 would have if it werent for station access.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Theocritus


    If they have 100k station access accounts then they would count all of those as active subscribers in every game

    for this Free Realms announcement  - they said  they did not

     

    forums.station.sony.com/freerealms/posts/list.m

    we're only counting existing Station Members (and Station Access subscribers) who have actually come to the Free Realms website and registered an account.

    Pex

    Free Realms Community Manager

     

     

  • ArcAngel3ArcAngel3 Member Posts: 2,931
    Originally posted by TdogSkal

    Originally posted by Wolfdor


    Huh, I just checked my SOE account and it has me listed as an active member of Free Realms as well.  That 1 million number doesn't seem so special now.

     

    Yea your account is "active" but it is not counted.  You have to have a charater created to be counted.  But keep hating on SOE as I am sure they are the only compane that pads their numbers.

    You guys need to get over the NGE thing already.  Dam

    If they're not counted, why have they even been registered as active players?  They're not active in Free Realms; they've had nothing whatsoever to do with this game, but here they come to find out that SOE says they're playing it.  Then they read how great Free Realms is because there are so many people playing it.  What are they supposed to think?

    Who says they weren't counted?  SOE?  Well, since SOE apparently has them listed as playing a game that they are not, why would anyone believe them?

    Sony got their butts kicked by the State Attorney General for screwing with radio ratings to make their artists look more popular than they actually were.  This smells similar. 

  • ArcAngel3ArcAngel3 Member Posts: 2,931
    Originally posted by todeswulf

    Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

    Originally posted by todeswulf

    Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw


    I'd urge all of you who have had station accounts in the past to go and see if you are a subscriber of FreeRealms. I checked mine (looking for a SWG vet trial activation) and discovered I'm 'playing' FreeRealms. I reported this on other boards in cyberspace and others after checking have discovered the same thing.
    Now, I personally don't care if they send me an email saying they've activated my account to make it easier for me to log in and give it a go, but that's not what they're doing here. This is sleazy (as per SOE usual).
    This is padding the numbers to convince people that 'everyone is playing FreeRealms'.
    Not cool.

     

    You are a lair.

    They are only counting those that have logged in the game and created a Character.  Give me emperical evidence to the contary or be exposed as a Compensated  Anti-SOE Shill.

    To say I'm a shill would imply I'm getting paid for this, when I'm doing this out of the goodness of my heart ;)

    I don't frequent the FR boards, so I would not know of any statement to refute my statement other than what the second and third posters replied with.

    Quite honestly, I would LOVE to be paid for bashing SOE (if there is somebody reading this who is willing to pay me for it please send me a PM and we'll talk).

    Also, I don't lie. I make assumptions based on the evidence at hand, but I don't lie. Good thing about being a 'paid anti-SOE shill' is that I'd never have to lie, just show facts.

    Yes facts where is your proof again? show us proof that SOE is counting more than those that logged in and created a character in that 1 mil and you will have credibility.  If you can't you are just a sad waste who is throwing a tantrum because SOE broke your Wookiee, as well as a lair.

    I think you may be missing something re. your Wookie comment.  People have been upset with SOE over the years for far more than one game revamp.

     

    Consider those playing EQ when Smed said that he was personally against RMT, and that there were no plans to implement it.  Now, of course, the game has RMT.  People felt understandably misled. 

    Consider those who signed up for Vanguard partly due to the list of advertised features: features that were not actually included in the game when it went live.  Did you read the apologies for that?  Did you see the back-pedalling and denial that any of this marketting was intentionally false?

    Consider those who actually enjoyed the combat of the NGE system, only to have it changed out from under them with what has been called the chapter 6 combat downgrade.

    Consider those who have expressed anger over spending hundreds of dollars on virtual trading cards hoping to get rare performance enhancing loot for SWG.

    Consider those who purchased subscription time for an SOE game based on Stratics Chat promises, only to see professions that were promised revamps get deleted altogether.

    Consider those who purchased an expansion for an SOE game because of promised features, only to find out the day after the expansion went live that these features would be deleted, and that SOE had been working towards an entirely new game system for months, without ever mentioning this to the players.

    You've seemed in times past like a reasonable person.  I trust from just these few examples, among many others I could list, that you can see this has never been about something so trivial as a broken wookie.

    Now it seems SOE is boasting about sub numbers to market their new game, and people are finding that they're listed as having active accounts with a game they've never played.  Questioning this makes an awful lot of sense to me.

  • sanders01sanders01 Member Posts: 1,357

     They didn't invite my old SOE account to the party! Not like I would play this garbage anyway though.

    Currently restarting World of Warcraft :/

  • TdogSkalTdogSkal Member UncommonPosts: 1,244
    {mod edit}

    I know there are other long weekends in North America but I did not realize that this weekend was one, I though it was next weekend in Canada too.   My mistake.

    Sooner or Later

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