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EVE Online: Flying Solo - Playing Without a Corp.
Stradden
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MMORPG.com EVE Online Correspondent Thomas Winkle interviews an EVE Online player who, despite popular opinion, has been ale to play and enjoy EVE for over three years without having joined a corporation.
For my first EVE Online article, I decided it would be best to get the perspective of an unusual player who has played EVE Online for quite a long time. His name is Jeregh, and he has quite a bit of experience with the game, and unlike most players, has never joined an alliance. For those out of the EVE Online space, an Alliance can be thought of as a guild that oversees other guilds. Here's what I've gathered from him.
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Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com
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The link would appear to be messed up. And you have a typo. Sounds like a cool article.
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Real as Reality Television!!!
Yes bad link.
Erf, bad link but interesting news :S
We have now flicked the activate feature switch!
Sorry about that!
Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
Dear John Wood.
This article is more typical sub-standard fare from MMORPG.com
So...is it "Jeregh" as it's listed in the header and footer, or "Jergeth" as listed in the back and forth interview?
Proofreading, Jon.
You really should make your people do it.
There is a certain irony to your intro and conclusion... but yes, we'll get that fixed.
Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
AHAHAHA...
There is, isn't there.
Old habits die hard, I suppose.
John is his name.
Jon is mine.
Actually, he's "Jon" too.
Anyway, jokes aside, thanks for pointing it out. We do our best, but sometimes things like this slip through.
Dana Massey
Formerly of MMORPG.com
Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
I played solo for about a year...it's tough especially when your like me and tend to PO entire corps.....and that can make finding a corp tough........Imagine my shiney new Corps surprise when the had half of Goon Swarm camped out in their sec wanting my head.
Yeah they pretty much gave me up.
Nice simple Q&A, nothing substantial but a fun read. I've only been playing for a month and have already dug myself a comfortable routine (some may say a rut =P.) But this would be a good read for anyone questioning if they should pick up EVE or not.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
I loned wolfed it for a while myself. Being a Lone Wolf does give you some advantages as you dont have to deal with petty squabbles or war dec, but its boring.
Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
Playing EVE Online and AOC.
Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD
Yeah, nice simple Q&A, though I would have prefered just a little more indepth, only a nudge.
Playing: Xbox360.
Played: NC, WoW, EvE, WAR, LOTRO.
Waiting: Dust 514, SW:TOR, Infinity:TQFE, et al.
I haven't played in about a year but when I did (for about 2 years), I was only in a corp for a few months before going back to solo. There are plenty of people who choose to belong to NPC corps for various reasons. My main reason was I got tired of the near-constant war decs going on (and I tried two diff corps).
As a soloer, you'll never control 0.0 space (and may have trouble even flying around in it) but it's not that bad if you don't care about the massive PvP that goes on in 0.0.
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Hey guys, sorry for the typo's. I had my format in a different way than the editors wanted; so when they changed it, they added his name before each question, when before, I only had his initial. That's where the typo came from. I hope you guys enjoyed the article, and enjoy my future articles. If you have any suggestions about what you want to read about, just let me know! You can pm me here, or message me in game at TenchiHakubi.
Eve Online a cool game. Though I played it for a couple years, I am not currently at this time. You Q & A was ok but people are right that its weak. For people that might scann all this and want to check out the game give a little more here. The game as stated is on one server. It is a space and corporation (money = isk) driven game. there are a few ways to get isk minning alone or with a corpration,agent missions, joining a corporation then doing what they require of u for the help, Manufacturing goods for sale on market(here to might be better as part of corp). and pirating.Though on one server the game has serveral, serveral star systems for u to explore .They have a secruty rating (1.0 to 0.0) The lower u find yourself the more risk u take , 0.4 below player charactors can attack u , but not just limited here , if they do it right they can gank ya in higher space. They'll just take more concord risk (in game Police)
There no lvls in Eve, which is anther reason to watch where u are. The ablity to do things is determine by skills and the lvl u trian them to or are at. There are skills for everthing and larger ships require certian skills and lvls to open them up for play. The good thing here is they trian in real time, not have be activity. This means after u buy the skill and activate it it'll say a time to lvl (say an hour, u could log of and log on hour later - bing skill at that lvl. )
The game all money. Skill books, ships, modes, weapons and later stuff to make stuff cost money (yeah don't get blowen up if low on cash or no insurance paid on ship the free noob ship takes a long while to get good isk back.) The game has several ways to make money as stated above.
Pvp can be donea few ways as well. You can be a pirate. Take someones stuff and they can attack u. If u jion a corp, a corp can declare war on one anther. This could be just to fight or as part of a scem to make the corp spend more resources(thous weaken its market) or take the area awayfrom them for ur corp operations. Though I have not tooken part in them there is the game run " Fraction Wars". You can aslo be a bounty hunter.
The graghics are cool and there are several types of ships. Some are specialized for like war, minning, cargo, or some specialized support. There 4 different Empires with a story and different look to them. Well I hope if anyone sees this and hasn't look at Eve but found the Q &A interesting gives u that final nudge to look the game up. The game got more info as well- not writting a manual.
I don't want to sound too hars...but what's difficult/interesting/unique about being carebear in NPC corp?
My char is almost 4 years old and still in SWA. I love doing missions in my fully faction fitted Command ship
People always ask me "Wtf dude?
For a guy that played Eve for a while you sure as hell have a hardtime dealing with the way other people decide to play a Open ended game.
Do you pay his 15 buck or 300million isk a month to keep his account active?
So many people play eve now, im sorry but 0.0 blob warfare and low sec roaming gangs/piracy arent the only way people enjoy Eve.
It's not like the guy is anti-social he has buddies that he groups with, so what he likes empire and does missions and some indy stuff.
Whatever floats his boat, In eve you could be who you want, when you want, doing what you want.
If you don;t like it tough, I personally feel it was a good write up.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
That's not what I am talking about. I asked, why to make and article about something so dull, boring and uninteresting, something how majority of EVE spent their ingame time and present it as unique experience?
Being with no corp can still be interesting, you can do lots of things as a freelancer and you can describe the issues you have to deal with, you can write what deals you have made with those who are in corp to supplemet missing features, etc. There is a ton to write what can you do as a lone wolf but this...?
That's not what I am talking about. I asked, why to make and article about something so dull, boring and uninteresting, something how majority of EVE spent their ingame time and present it as unique experience?
Being with no corp can still be interesting, you can do lots of things as a freelancer and you can describe the issues you have to deal with, you can write what deals you have made with those who are in corp to supplemet missing features, etc. There is a ton to write what can you do as a lone wolf but this...?
I found it interesting for two reasons.
One the guy basically tells everyone why Eve is awesome, something that the haters and trolls on the forum have been asking for a while but us fanbois usually just flame them for asking it.
Second, The article highlights a guy that the majority of the forum community here would consider a worthless carebear.
Its like the ultimate Bait thread. Its baiting the haters to come and say how shitty Eve is and the Eve elite also so we could say the guy has never really played EvE LOL!
While I wont personally attack the guy for his choice of play I would freaking kill myself in game for what he does all day.
For mmorpg.com to put this artical up proves that they know Jack about there forum community.
Its basically being posted for reaction, so i find it interesting
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
I think the article was a follow-up to all the previous Eve coverage of "how wonderful joining a corporation is", "how to create an alliance", and the other "corporations are guilds and will make the game easier for you" stuff.
Agreed that the interview didn't relay the challenge of keeping intrigued with a game that mostly sucks up to corporations/alliances.
The Lone Wolf style of play is an extraordinary challenge of crafting a tapestry of experience and focus which you and only you control. Yeah, sometimes you get the equivalent of "writer's block", but it always passes as you get deeper into the personal Eve universe you've created.
For instance, embedding your main and an alt into low-sec space for exploration and runnning complexes, all the while keeping an eye on local (a communication channel everyone has that indicates who else is in the system you're in). Can you pull it off or will the big, bad, piwate players find you and destroy your ship? The logistics alone are daunting, including making runs late at night or just after downtime, to avoid detection. Logging off in space and logging in a few days later, thus defeating the players who just set up a gate camp, confounding them (at least for a bit). And no one has your back, ever.......
1) This is very much not awesomness of EVE. You can do the same dull PVE in EVE as in any other game, and I would say you can do it better out of EVE. There was nothing said that would specify the uniqueness of EVE.
2) He is a worthless carebear and never played EVE indeed
I will share with you some of my adventures I experienced as lone wolf:
1) I was roaming low sec and killing NPCs when player entered the system. I scanned the sytem in order to figure out wheter he is a threat, seemed fine and I was continuing my ratting until cynosural field popped in my overview. I warped to close planet and focus my scanner towards the cyno.
The story turned out that cap jumped in and got stuck because cyno pilot got d/c or something and his alt was trapped far away. I offered him my help to get his carrier into 0.0 base.
2) The other day, I was hanging around high sec to check some of my orders when I was convoed by a guy who was in wardec. I ended up being hired for scouting and helped him to get some kills.
3) Or the other day, I was in low sec exploring new region and end up being hunted by pirats. We had some fun while I managed to escape couple of time and we started to chat, my attention dropped after a while and to my surprise they warped in and popped me. I ended up reimburtsed and setting up a trap for other pirate group roaming around.
This can happen to you at your lonely journies. To me, those 3 stories describes what 'Playing Without a Corp' means. A freedom and adventures.
EVE is very rich in player interactions as well as complexity, therefore you can meet very different people and nomad life style as I had, offered me very unique and funny situations.
You don't have to be in corp to experience something great - in fact, being in a corp, you are sort of restricted from such events.
This is what EVE is about, no dumb PVE...
Note: Yeah, I don't get the point of the article nor what you find interesting about it :-/
Honestly its a positive Eve article that could turn certain people on to eve.
That alone as a eve fanboi has me atleast a bit interested LOL!!!!!
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
While attracting more and more bears, the encounters I described above will become more and more rare since those new players are not attracted by the freedom, complexity and player interaction but fluff and PVE. And the game will logicaly evolve to support the game majority, and logicaly, because you can't please everyone, at the expense of features that made EVE so awesome.
Maybe not, who knows but all changes in last year are supporting this scheme.
You can group and do quest in pretty every MMO out there, can you tell me 3 stories similar to mines that you could experience in other game as well?
While attracting more and more bears, the encounters I described above will become more and more rare since those new players are not attracted by the freedom, complexity and player interaction but fluff and PVE. And the game will logicaly evolve to support the game majority, and logicaly, because you can't please everyone, at the expense of features that made EVE so awesome.
Maybe not, who knows but all changes in last year are supporting this scheme.
You can group and do quest in pretty every MMO out there, can you tell me 3 stories similar to mines that you could experience in other game as well?
I've seen a ton of carebears converted to the darkside.
It's not the carebear shit that will hook them and make them interested its the Idea of Freedom that they could be whatever they want. When I read that guys article all I see is a dude that basically does what he wants and that's appealing to certain people.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom