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With no PvP Server..

TaiphozTaiphoz Member UncommonPosts: 353

It's going to suck..

I know the mmo market as a whole is moving into a more casual carebear safe sort of attitude, but even games like WOW provide more than one server type for their players. hell it's one of the reasons it did so well. providing the customers with what they want.

So how do Net Devil expect to make any money when their only allowing players to play on 1 server type. with limited death penalty and 40% pvp while the rest of the game is all safe zones and pve space.

 

 

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  • freejackmackfreejackmack Member Posts: 378
    Originally posted by Yavln


    It's going to suck..
    I know the mmo market as a whole is moving into a more casual carebear safe sort of attitude, but even games like WOW provide more than one server type for their players. hell it's one of the reasons it did so well. providing the customers with what they want.
    So how do Net Devil expect to make any money when their only allowing players to play on 1 server type. with limited death penalty and 40% pvp while the rest of the game is all safe zones and pve space.
     
     

    I bet your playing Eve or wow right now. We all know how well wow has done with safe zones and Eve has empire space so what is your point.

    I think the point is your going to lose some of your friends cause they will be playing JGE in a month or 2.

    So go play JGC and practice your twitch based skill a bit so you can hang with the rest of us:)

  • TaiphozTaiphoz Member UncommonPosts: 353

    I think my point was clear smart arse.

    We should be getting a pvp server, and possibly even an rp server. given that shard size is going to be around 3000 players. thats not a lot for a 3 nation game.

    PVP Servers are a must.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Yavln


    I think my point was clear smart arse.
    We should be getting a pvp server, and possibly even an rp server. given that shard size is going to be around 3000 players. thats not a lot for a 3 nation game.
    PVP Servers are a must.

     

    A must for whom? Obviously the developers do NOT agree with you right now.

    It is simple. If the game rolls out like this and does well, you won't see your pvp server. If not, they may try it. Very simple real world test.

     

  • solnicarissolnicaris Member Posts: 148

    I think JGE will get along just fine without a PvP server. It just needs to have dedicated zones that are free combat zones and that will do the job. If PvP is done right you don't need PvP specific servers.

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  • MiexonMiexon Vendetta Online CorrespondentMember Posts: 181

    Wow. I was considering looking at this due to my like of space sim mmos (currently play Vendetta Online). No pvp = not as much fun in my opinion. Will just have to wait while Vendetta progresses to 2.0....

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  • sa1yamansa1yaman Member Posts: 272

    Whats planned for 2.0? ETA?

    Sorry for OT.  I thing they want to try one ruleset first. When it doesn't work they will try separate servers with different rules.

  • lornphoenixlornphoenix Member Posts: 993
    Originally posted by Miexon


    Wow. I was considering looking at this due to my like of space sim mmos (currently play Vendetta Online). No pvp = not as much fun in my opinion. Will just have to wait while Vendetta progresses to 2.0....

    the pvp is there it just opt-in.

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  • Eraser55Eraser55 Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by sa1yaman


    Whats planned for 2.0? ETA?
    Sorry for OT.  I thing they want to try one ruleset first. When it doesn't work they will try separate servers with different rules.

     

    more likely some of ND devs get fired cause they suck at guessing what the market wants..   AA

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  • demolishIXdemolishIX Member Posts: 632
    Originally posted by freejackmack

    Originally posted by Yavln


    It's going to suck..
    I know the mmo market as a whole is moving into a more casual carebear safe sort of attitude, but even games like WOW provide more than one server type for their players. hell it's one of the reasons it did so well. providing the customers with what they want.
    So how do Net Devil expect to make any money when their only allowing players to play on 1 server type. with limited death penalty and 40% pvp while the rest of the game is all safe zones and pve space.
     
     

    I bet your playing Eve or wow right now. We all know how well wow has done with safe zones and Eve has empire space so what is your point.

    I think the point is your going to lose some of your friends cause they will be playing JGE in a month or 2.

    So go play JGC and practice your twitch based skill a bit so you can hang with the rest of us:)

     

     EVE has empire space,but by no definition is anywhere except a NPC station that you are safe from PVP.

  • freejackmackfreejackmack Member Posts: 378
    Originally posted by demolishIX

    Originally posted by freejackmack

    Originally posted by Yavln


    It's going to suck..
    I know the mmo market as a whole is moving into a more casual carebear safe sort of attitude, but even games like WOW provide more than one server type for their players. hell it's one of the reasons it did so well. providing the customers with what they want.
    So how do Net Devil expect to make any money when their only allowing players to play on 1 server type. with limited death penalty and 40% pvp while the rest of the game is all safe zones and pve space.
     
     

    I bet your playing Eve or wow right now. We all know how well wow has done with safe zones and Eve has empire space so what is your point.

    I think the point is your going to lose some of your friends cause they will be playing JGE in a month or 2.

    So go play JGC and practice your twitch based skill a bit so you can hang with the rest of us:)

     

     EVE has empire space,but by no definition is anywhere except a NPC station that you are safe from PVP.

    It's the same dam thing. They both are features designed to prevent greifing and make the game more fun for all.

  • JGMIIIJGMIII Member Posts: 1,282
    Originally posted by freejackmack

    Originally posted by Yavln


    It's going to suck..
    I know the mmo market as a whole is moving into a more casual carebear safe sort of attitude, but even games like WOW provide more than one server type for their players. hell it's one of the reasons it did so well. providing the customers with what they want.
    So how do Net Devil expect to make any money when their only allowing players to play on 1 server type. with limited death penalty and 40% pvp while the rest of the game is all safe zones and pve space.
     
     

    I bet your playing Eve or wow right now. We all know how well wow has done with safe zones and Eve has empire space so what is your point.

    I think the point is your going to lose some of your friends cause they will be playing JGE in a month or 2.

    So go play JGC and practice your twitch based skill a bit so you can hang with the rest of us:)

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You really think people will leave either Eve or WoW for JGE!?!?!

    People have gone crazy on this forum.

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  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by JGMIII

    Originally posted by freejackmack

    Originally posted by Yavln


    It's going to suck..
    I know the mmo market as a whole is moving into a more casual carebear safe sort of attitude, but even games like WOW provide more than one server type for their players. hell it's one of the reasons it did so well. providing the customers with what they want.
    So how do Net Devil expect to make any money when their only allowing players to play on 1 server type. with limited death penalty and 40% pvp while the rest of the game is all safe zones and pve space.
     
     

    I bet your playing Eve or wow right now. We all know how well wow has done with safe zones and Eve has empire space so what is your point.

    I think the point is your going to lose some of your friends cause they will be playing JGE in a month or 2.

    So go play JGC and practice your twitch based skill a bit so you can hang with the rest of us:)

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You really think people will leave either Eve or WoW for JGE!?!?!

    People have gone crazy on this forum.

    If you where playing WoW, you wouldn't leave for JGE? Hell I bet even Hello Kitty Online got some of WoW's folks. I'm sure some of EvE's folks will leave for JGE too. If anything, for a new spaced based mmo since EvE practically has this market cornered,...for now.

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  • lornphoenixlornphoenix Member Posts: 993
    Originally posted by JGMIII


    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You really think people will leave either Eve or WoW for JGE!?!?!
    People have gone crazy on this forum.

    Some people from both games will leave to try the game out... not that many, but still it will happen.

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  • JGMIIIJGMIII Member Posts: 1,282
    Originally posted by lornphoenix

    Originally posted by JGMIII


    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You really think people will leave either Eve or WoW for JGE!?!?!
    People have gone crazy on this forum.

    Some people from both games will leave to try the game out... not that many, but still it will happen.

     

    Big difference between trying and staying.

    Hell I'm interested in both Jge and Bp and look forward to free trials to both but that doesn;t mean I'll stick with them.

    Seriously If people were going to leave Eve for something like Jge why didnt they show interest in the original JG and leave then? JG had next to no impact on Eve and niether will its graphical rehash.

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  • freejackmackfreejackmack Member Posts: 378
    Originally posted by JGMIII

    Originally posted by lornphoenix

    Originally posted by JGMIII


    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You really think people will leave either Eve or WoW for JGE!?!?!
    People have gone crazy on this forum.

    Some people from both games will leave to try the game out... not that many, but still it will happen.

     

    Big difference between trying and staying.

    Hell I'm interested in both Jge and Bp and look forward to free trials to both but that doesn;t mean I'll stick with them.

    Seriously If people were going to leave Eve for something like Jge why didnt they show interest in the original JG and leave then? JG had next to no impact on Eve and niether will its graphical rehash.

    JGC came out before Eve and JGC is far more fun than Eve ever could be.

    The problem is at the release of  JGC their publisher went bankrupt and never sent out adds and the devs abandoned ship for the most part. If JGC had the support that Eve got it would be a far different story. Eve would have gone under because most people are looking to fly their own ship and not just point and click with no actual piloting skill invovled.

    I doubt that many will stay with Eve after JGE gets some age to it like Eve has.

  • lornphoenixlornphoenix Member Posts: 993
    Originally posted by freejackmack


    JGC came out before Eve and JGC is far more fun than Eve ever could be.
    The problem is at the release of  JGC their publisher went bankrupt and never sent out adds and the devs abandoned ship for the most part. If JGC had the support that Eve got it would be a far different story. Eve would have gone under because most people are looking to fly their own ship and not just point and click with no actual piloting skill invovled.
    I doubt that many will stay with Eve after JGE gets some age to it like Eve has.

     

    I don't know about that... Eve fits certain types of people well... JGE isn't going to give them what they are looking for.

    What I think will happen instead, after JGE (and BP later on down the road) is released you'll see a sharp hit to newer players joining Eve... but people will still join Eve.

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  • wilqwilq Member UncommonPosts: 144
    Originally posted by freejackmack

    Originally posted by JGMIII

    Originally posted by lornphoenix

    Originally posted by JGMIII


    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You really think people will leave either Eve or WoW for JGE!?!?!
    People have gone crazy on this forum.

    Some people from both games will leave to try the game out... not that many, but still it will happen.

     

    Big difference between trying and staying.

    Hell I'm interested in both Jge and Bp and look forward to free trials to both but that doesn;t mean I'll stick with them.

    Seriously If people were going to leave Eve for something like Jge why didnt they show interest in the original JG and leave then? JG had next to no impact on Eve and niether will its graphical rehash.

    JGC came out before Eve and JGC is far more fun than Eve ever could be.

    The problem is at the release of  JGC their publisher went bankrupt and never sent out adds and the devs abandoned ship for the most part. If JGC had the support that Eve got it would be a far different story. Eve would have gone under because most people are looking to fly their own ship and not just point and click with no actual piloting skill invovled.

    I doubt that many will stay with Eve after JGE gets some age to it like Eve has.

    You sir are wery mistaken if you think you dont need "skill" to pvp in EVE

  • ZzuluZzulu Member Posts: 452

    You need the right ship and equipment and a basic understanding of how to position yourself in a fight. You really do not need more than that to kill people in EVE. Even less then that is needed for big engagements.

     

    However, I don't think JGE will compete with EVE until JGE starts focusing more on PvP. Right now it has a very weak and watered down PvP system compared to EVE.

  • wilqwilq Member UncommonPosts: 144

    There is no "right ship" there are ships and fitings more popular then others but all ships hawe their nemesis in this game

  • racasdorphracasdorph Member Posts: 14

    PvP is a must for me.... lol

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