Armour has no influence in PvP?!

BuZeR · November 2004

I have been talking to a few mates and them seem to think that armour rating is negated while in PvP. This claim is also backed up in the WoW Manual.

But i cannot see why WoW would do this... If this is true armour wont do anything in PvP to reduce the damage taken, so a plate waring Warrior would have no damage reduction bonus's and would take the same damage compaired to a cloth Mage? But the cloth Mage also gets damage absorb spells... so they take LESS melee damage then a plate Warrior (i know a Warrior would have more hp, parry, etc, but still).

This basiclly means in PvP dont ware plate? Just ware armour that gives you the most to +stats and not worry about armour class at all... That is if i got it right.

jimothypetro · November 2004

Really? O.o

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LoStCaUz3 · November 2004

Insanely wrong. I am sorry, don't mean to be an ass, but it is pretty much wrong... If you rush in with no armor whatsoever on, then you will be killed instantly. A fraction of the armor's strength seems to be lost because you are fighting real people in real time with real weapons. Not those idiot "blunt" weapons all the NPCs use.

Just because you beat a mob at level 20 doesn't mean you can do the same to a level 20 warrior with a huge battle hammer. Get what I am saying? Because you are fighting more complex things that have real armor and real weapons, everything seems a little weaker, but I can guarentee that armor has something to do with PvP.

BuZeR · November 2004

umm, wheres your proof LostCause? I didnt say this is the way it is, i was asking... So how can i be wrong?

Lill-Troll · November 2004

I'm pretty certain that LostCause is right. Players do ALOT more average dmg than an NPC of the same level ('cept for the Raid and Elite ones I'd imagine) So this topic belongs in the Rumours Forum

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Harafnir · November 2004

Have you tried taking off all your armor, and let someone kill you then compared them to when the same person kill you fully armored? You put up a pretty serious statement here, and ask for proof when someone say its not correct. Even though where you got it from seems really vague. So just wondered how much you have tried your statement before bringing it to a forum.

I know of my PvP experience, and I know this much... It was darn faster to shoot down a mage or Rogue, compared to a fighter... That gave me some indication. This... seems more pulled out of a hat.

RaalGuy · November 2004

yes it does otherwise what would be the point in having armor types? armor is there to help because like a rogue is supposed to destroy a mage but lose to a warrior, how does this happen? mage has cloth armor so they do more dmg there and kill mages faster, warriors have plate which reduces the rogues dmg overall and allows thwe warrior to win

Rhevin · November 2004

Well, I'm a 19 rogue and I have been in Redridge for the past two days now from 15 to where I am now 19. I have been grouping with people to kill the orcs and all, and last night a 20 Undead rogue and 28 Undead Priest entered the Three Corners. Now, I can handle those Black Dragon Whelps fairly easily, and the outrunners with the use of a potion, but these two came in and conquered. I actually got to go head to head with the 20 Undead rogue and I managed to get him down to 1/2 health until I died. He was level 20 and the Outrunners I was killing not too long prior to the invasion were 21. Yes, I do feel armor does not play a significant role, but it does have it's capabilities; skills and spells being of greater importance.

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starman999 · November 2004

Well....

I am assuming that since you are a rogue Rhevin you must be wearing leather armor? If this is the case it is not surprising that your armor rating did not play a huge role.

For example my friend plays a hunter at lvl 13 he is wearing the best leather armor he could get and still his armor rating is only like 200+. I on the other hand am playing a lvl 14 paladin wearing the best mail armor I could get my hands on and using a shield which makes my armor rating closer to 1500.

That is a huge difference and I think that if you had been a tank class wearing mail you may have fared better against your opponents. Also when fighting casters its important to use your fastest skills to keep them interrupted.

Also kill the healer first.

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Rhevin · November 2004

Originally posted by starman999

Well....
I am assuming that since you are a rogue Rhevin you must be wearing leather armor? If this is the case it is not surprising that your armor rating did not play a huge role.
For example my friend plays a hunter at lvl 13 he is wearing the best leather armor he could get and still his armor rating is only like 200+. I on the other hand am playing a lvl 14 paladin wearing the best mail armor I could get my hands on and using a shield which makes my armor rating closer to 1500.
That is a huge difference and I think that if you had been a tank class wearing mail you may have fared better against your opponents. Also when fighting casters its important to use your fastest skills to keep them interrupted.
Also kill the healer first.

"When You Earnestly Believe You Can Compensate For A Lack Of Skill By Doubling Your Efforts, There's No End To What You Can't Do."

Yea, you do have a point with me wearing leather. But, in OB, I snuck to the Barrens and my hit list got to 43. I noticed that skills seem to be more important than armor. Like I said, armor doesn't seem to play a significant role, but it is important.

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Silver. · November 2004

I played Paladin during the OB for US(living in EU) I was doing some PvP. I fougth a lvl 16 Paladin, I was 15(paladin).
After he killed me suprisingly, I whent back to get my revenge.
He was camping somewhere and ASSKICKED me when I got back from the dead, becuase he jumped out of some bushes.
Then the 3rd time he let me heal and stuff. It was pretty even. But then my durablity was all red, everyting at once ::::21:: . Then I lost Hp mutch faster, realy had no chance. So armor do play a pretty big role, no mater what armor you have.
It matters!

Yeah deal with it, or else ::::15::
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Soulrender · November 2004

I actually think that armors affection works like in warcraft3, lets say that 300 armor gives 15 % reduction, then adding 300 more wont make your reduction become 30 %, it actually lowers the improvement for every armor point i think...so the best is probably to go for stats/armor plates as warrior...atleast if my suspections are true

Aleister · November 2004

prebeta, taken from www.thottbot.com
(damage reduction) = (.3 * (armor class - 1)/(10*level+89))

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