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An interesting thread on the official forums.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=189982
Guy wants to know if the Eurogamer review was accurate or not.
It's intersting because of the number of people that, while they don't like Ed, agree with the score for the most part.
In fact, the magority of the people that responded over the 3 pages actually agree with the overall gist of the review.
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I noted a bit of discontent as well. I think people are frankly getting a bit desperate about the state of the game, and the implications of hacking/exploiting not only on the games reputation in general, but the impact this has had on thier gameplay.
The discontent is spreading like a wildfire on the official site.
For some reason they locked the thread I posted in pointing out the shady billing practices that Av has been engaging in.
Wonder why the mods wouldn't want people to know that Av is double billing, cancelling paid accounts, and charging prior to the completion of billing cycles; all on a fairly regular basis.
you don't need a subscription to post. it's obvious many of those posting aren't even playing. some of their "criticisms" no longer exist in the game anymore.
secondly, of course the ex-WOW crowd is not going to like Darkfall. surely that should be obvious by now.
darkfall = pvp sandbox
WOW = pve themepark
they are diametrically opposed.
How accurate can a review be if the reviewer talking about Aventurine offers "a few server" ?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
allow those of us who are playing to have a laugh at this -- in-game the game is just growing by leaps and bounds... there is so much PVP and political stuff going down right now.
funny how all the negative posts in that thread are by obvious troll accounts made in the last couple of months...
more like you guys are *desperate* to make the game fail cause it's not a WOW-clone.
A new and interesting defence...never seen that one posted before.
I'm sure you'd be able to point out exactly which statements indicate that they don't play...specifically I mean, not generalisms. I'm just curious how you can form that opinion.
A new and interesting defence...never seen that one posted before.
I'm sure you'd be able to point out exactly which statements indicate that they don't play...specifically I mean, not generalisms. I'm just curious how you can form that opinion.
You have missed the "lock the forums for not paying customer" petitions in "suggestions" section of the forum.
We customer want the forums locked for only customers.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
And that tells you that the majority of the people posting less than positive feedback in that thread aren't subscribers?
That seems to be a bit of a logical leap to me. It tells me that the DFO forums have a number of issues with trolls but that particular thread, whilst negative, isn't particularly bad.
My question stands...on what specific evidence do you base the opinion that the posters leaving negative feedback in that thread are non-subscribers?
because of the well thought out post of those who agree with the review. for example
"Ok.
Darkfall is a rev...
Actually forget that Tacos is just a fucking lying twat 1/10
--
Done!"
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
allow those of us who are playing to have a laugh at this -- in-game the game is just growing by leaps and bounds... there is so much PVP and political stuff going down right now.
funny how all the negative posts in that thread are by obvious troll accounts made in the last couple of months...
more like you guys are *desperate* to make the game fail cause it's not a WOW-clone.
You know that they opened the shop on Wed. Still only to sell a limitted number of accounts. The shop was still open last night, friday evening. It may still be open today, but lets say they finally sold thier limitted number of account last night, that's 3 days to sell a limitted number of accounts.
They can't even sell out of a limitted number of accounts and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
People who actually play the game are posting left and right on the official forums that the playerbase is declining fast, and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
Guess what smart guy.
I got an account at the beginning of March, I registered on the forums in Feb. My forum account was made in "the last couple of months".
You and Darth are a trip. You more so then Darth.
You've been proven a liar time and time again and yet you continue to post your blatant BS.
You guys think you're so witty with your CONSTANT WoW references. As if everyone who dislikes crappy games must like WoW.
I got news for you guys.
You guys are the VERY smallest of the minority. That little handful of gamers that LOVES really, horribly, crappy games.
It's called bad taste.
You guys are also the WORST kind of fan a game can have.
All you do is spout about how great it is, willing your eyes shut to the obvious problems, completely inginoring what needs to be fixed and insisting others will LOVE the game. You guys would be better serving your game by shutting your mouths and letting the people that have actual standards do the talking for you so that Av will learn what needs to be fixed. As it is your constant finatical delusions do nothing to help Av or the game.
because of the well thought out post of those who agree with the review. for example
"Ok.
Darkfall is a rev...
Actually forget that Tacos is just a fucking lying twat 1/10
--
Done!"
That is trollish, granted, but doesn't necessarily indicate a non-player. They could just as easily be a disappointed former player.
I see many other posts there that are well reasoned and lucid saying that the review, whilst containing factual errors, some perhaps out and out fabrications, actually does represent how the gaming experience actually stands.
I see this point raised every time negative feedback is raised, that the poster obviously doesn't play...I think that people using it as a defence should be called on it and post their justification. In most of the cases I've seen so far, its a pretty weak defence as the evidence tends to be sketchy at best. That being the case, trying to invalidate a thread by generalising that all those who don't have a positive view of Darkfall have never played it merely weakens your standpoint and will cause readers to write it off as blind fandom.
allow those of us who are playing to have a laugh at this -- in-game the game is just growing by leaps and bounds... there is so much PVP and political stuff going down right now.
funny how all the negative posts in that thread are by obvious troll accounts made in the last couple of months...
more like you guys are *desperate* to make the game fail cause it's not a WOW-clone.
You know that they opened the shop on Wed. Still only to sell a limitted number of accounts. The shop was still open last night, friday evening. It may still be open today, but lets say they finally sold thier limitted number of account last night, that's 3 days to sell a limitted number of accounts.
They can't even sell out of a limitted number of accounts and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
People who actually play the game are posting left and right on the official forums that the playerbase is declining fast, and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
Guess what smart guy.
I got an account at the beginning of March, I registered on the forums in Feb. My forum account was made in "the last couple of months".
You and Darth are a trip. You more so then Darth.
You've been proven a liar time and time again and yet you continue to post your blatant BS.
You guys think you're so witty with your CONSTANT WoW references. As if everyone who dislikes crappy games must like WoW.
I got news for you guys.
You guys are the VERY smallest of the minority. That little handful of gamers that LOVES really, horribly, crappy games.
It's called bad taste.
You guys are also the WORST kind of fan a game can have.
All you do is spout about how great it is, willing your eyes shut to the obvious problems, completely inginoring what needs to be fixed and insisting others will LOVE the game. You guys would be better serving your game by shutting your mouths and letting the people that have actual standards do the talking for you so that Av will learn what needs to be fixed. As it is your constant finatical delusions do nothing to help Av or the game.
Wau, look at those caps.
AV knows whats best for the game and every patch shows they on the right track. About forum maniacs like you, they have litle to no influence about it.
Aventurine has gone through vaportrolling, bad review trolls, trash talk trolls and have nontheless build a gem.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
because of the well thought out post of those who agree with the review. for example
"Ok.
Darkfall is a rev...
Actually forget that Tacos is just a fucking lying twat 1/10
--
Done!"
As a fully paid up member of EQ1 I see such posts on a regular basis on the "Customer only" forums hosted my SoE.
Just becuase your a paying customer does not mean your going to post in a sensible manner, an idiot of a player and poster does not suddenly revert into a fair player and unbiased poster in the blink of an eye, no matter what obstacles you put in the way of forum posters, you will get the negative with the positive.
A disgruntled DFO player could well post a truly epic flaming post about the game and it's developers, they may have found they had issues with something in-game that has not been looked at or they found out their account was banned for something that wasn't explained, or that their billing cycle has suddenly developed a need to double charge them.
Does it not then mean these ppl have the right to air their frustrations? to get some sort of response in regards to their problems if they had previously been ignored, some will go truly overboard, yet some will contain their anger and post in a moderate tone, each to their own.
But don't tar everyone with the same brush and accuse everyone who posts negatively as a non-paying DFO player.
allow those of us who are playing to have a laugh at this -- in-game the game is just growing by leaps and bounds... there is so much PVP and political stuff going down right now.
funny how all the negative posts in that thread are by obvious troll accounts made in the last couple of months...
more like you guys are *desperate* to make the game fail cause it's not a WOW-clone.
You know that they opened the shop on Wed. Still only to sell a limitted number of accounts. The shop was still open last night, friday evening. It may still be open today, but lets say they finally sold thier limitted number of account last night, that's 3 days to sell a limitted number of accounts.
They can't even sell out of a limitted number of accounts and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
People who actually play the game are posting left and right on the official forums that the playerbase is declining fast, and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
Guess what smart guy.
I got an account at the beginning of March, I registered on the forums in Feb. My forum account was made in "the last couple of months".
You and Darth are a trip. You more so then Darth.
You've been proven a liar time and time again and yet you continue to post your blatant BS.
You guys think you're so witty with your CONSTANT WoW references. As if everyone who dislikes crappy games must like WoW.
I got news for you guys.
You guys are the VERY smallest of the minority. That little handful of gamers that LOVES really, horribly, crappy games.
It's called bad taste.
You guys are also the WORST kind of fan a game can have.
All you do is spout about how great it is, willing your eyes shut to the obvious problems, completely inginoring what needs to be fixed and insisting others will LOVE the game. You guys would be better serving your game by shutting your mouths and letting the people that have actual standards do the talking for you so that Av will learn what needs to be fixed. As it is your constant finatical delusions do nothing to help Av or the game.
Wau, look at those caps.
AV knows whats best for the game and every patch shows they on the right track. About forum maniacs like you, they have litle to no influence about it.
Aventurine has gone through vaportrolling, bad review trolls, trash talk trolls and have nontheless build a gem.
After having played the game for a pretty good length of time, read the 2 reviews that have been made, and from reading thier official forums, I'd have to say Av hasn't got a stinking clue what's best for thier game.
If they did then there wouldn't be an overwhelmingly magority negetive feedback on the game.
Maniac?
Ok, I'll take that.
And I'll continue to inform people, and discourage them to not give Av thier money.
A company that practices unethical billing practices has no right to make money.
allow those of us who are playing to have a laugh at this -- in-game the game is just growing by leaps and bounds... there is so much PVP and political stuff going down right now.
funny how all the negative posts in that thread are by obvious troll accounts made in the last couple of months...
more like you guys are *desperate* to make the game fail cause it's not a WOW-clone.
You know that they opened the shop on Wed. Still only to sell a limitted number of accounts. The shop was still open last night, friday evening. It may still be open today, but lets say they finally sold thier limitted number of account last night, that's 3 days to sell a limitted number of accounts.
They can't even sell out of a limitted number of accounts and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
People who actually play the game are posting left and right on the official forums that the playerbase is declining fast, and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
Guess what smart guy.
I got an account at the beginning of March, I registered on the forums in Feb. My forum account was made in "the last couple of months".
You and Darth are a trip. You more so then Darth.
You've been proven a liar time and time again and yet you continue to post your blatant BS.
You guys think you're so witty with your CONSTANT WoW references. As if everyone who dislikes crappy games must like WoW.
I got news for you guys.
You guys are the VERY smallest of the minority. That little handful of gamers that LOVES really, horribly, crappy games.
It's called bad taste.
You guys are also the WORST kind of fan a game can have.
All you do is spout about how great it is, willing your eyes shut to the obvious problems, completely inginoring what needs to be fixed and insisting others will LOVE the game. You guys would be better serving your game by shutting your mouths and letting the people that have actual standards do the talking for you so that Av will learn what needs to be fixed. As it is your constant finatical delusions do nothing to help Av or the game.
Wau, look at those caps.
AV knows whats best for the game and every patch shows they on the right track. About forum maniacs like you, they have litle to no influence about it.
Aventurine has gone through vaportrolling, bad review trolls, trash talk trolls and have nontheless build a gem.
After having played the game for a pretty good length of time, read the 2 reviews that have been made, and from reading thier official forums, I'd have to say Av hasn't got a stinking clue what's best for thier game.
If they did then there wouldn't be an overwhelmingly magority negetive feedback on the game.
Maniac?
Ok, I'll take that.
And I'll continue to inform people, and discourage them to not give Av thier money.
A company that practices unethical billing practices has no right to make money.
And i ll inform people that i had no problem with obtaining my account , even tho i didnt had a CC and bought a pre paid one, the trasaction was smooth i got charged only 1 time, i took monthy subscription and now i am into my 3 month and no problem yet.
Also i havent heard of any clan member having problems with billing. I find it curious a 50+ member clan (we even tranfered accounts in the sense of someone bought an account for someone else due to not being able to attend store open time) and not a single billing issue, but you talking about unethical billing practices.
Did you followed the instructions for buying DF ?
describe the progress, maybe you made some error ?
The street field was too long, i had to shorten it to make it fit and also my fisrtname didn't fit. Did you followed the instructions regarding that ?
Like i said, reading forums make me believe people talk about another game then what i play and how i obtained it.
(in really i was nervous obtaineing from all that shittalk people tell here, i checked i double checked, i checked status of tranfer for 4 days and in the end all went smooth and no problem, it was just talking people into panic from some forum trolls here in my case)
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
You're right. I did make a mistake.
I left my CC info in to do recurring billing.
So all the people that have been posting over and over, or the sticky thread that's some ungodly number of pages long now, all about billing issues aren't really there?
I never said it happens to EVERYONE.
I said that it happens with more frequency then can be chalked up to issues with thier account managemnt after 3 months.
People ARE being double billed.
People ARE being told to repurchase an account after having purchased one.
People ARE being billed monthly fees before they are due.
Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it didn't happen.
You're right. I did make a mistake.
I left my CC info in to do recurring billing.
So all the people that have been posting over and over, or the sticky thread that's some ungodly number of pages long now, all about billing issues aren't really there?
I never said it happens to EVERYONE.
I said that it happens with more frequency then can be chalked up to issues with thier account managemnt after 3 months.
People ARE being double billed.
People ARE being told to repurchase an account after having purchased one.
People ARE being billed monthly fees before they are due.
Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it didn't happen.
you know you are talking to the one person who claims there are no hacks in darkfall because he havent seen them, right?
allow those of us who are playing to have a laugh at this -- in-game the game is just growing by leaps and bounds... there is so much PVP and political stuff going down right now.
funny how all the negative posts in that thread are by obvious troll accounts made in the last couple of months...
more like you guys are *desperate* to make the game fail cause it's not a WOW-clone.
You know that they opened the shop on Wed. Still only to sell a limitted number of accounts. The shop was still open last night, friday evening. It may still be open today, but lets say they finally sold thier limitted number of account last night, that's 3 days to sell a limitted number of accounts.
They can't even sell out of a limitted number of accounts and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
People who actually play the game are posting left and right on the official forums that the playerbase is declining fast, and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
Guess what smart guy.
I got an account at the beginning of March, I registered on the forums in Feb. My forum account was made in "the last couple of months".
You and Darth are a trip. You more so then Darth.
You've been proven a liar time and time again and yet you continue to post your blatant BS.
You guys think you're so witty with your CONSTANT WoW references. As if everyone who dislikes crappy games must like WoW.
I got news for you guys.
You guys are the VERY smallest of the minority. That little handful of gamers that LOVES really, horribly, crappy games.
It's called bad taste.
You guys are also the WORST kind of fan a game can have.
All you do is spout about how great it is, willing your eyes shut to the obvious problems, completely inginoring what needs to be fixed and insisting others will LOVE the game. You guys would be better serving your game by shutting your mouths and letting the people that have actual standards do the talking for you so that Av will learn what needs to be fixed. As it is your constant finatical delusions do nothing to help Av or the game.
Wau, look at those caps.
AV knows whats best for the game and every patch shows they on the right track. About forum maniacs like you, they have litle to no influence about it.
Aventurine has gone through vaportrolling, bad review trolls, trash talk trolls and have nontheless build a gem.
After having played the game for a pretty good length of time, read the 2 reviews that have been made, and from reading thier official forums, I'd have to say Av hasn't got a stinking clue what's best for thier game.
If they did then there wouldn't be an overwhelmingly magority negetive feedback on the game.
Maniac?
Ok, I'll take that.
And I'll continue to inform people, and discourage them to not give Av thier money.
A company that practices unethical billing practices has no right to make money.
And i ll inform people that i had no problem with obtaining my account , even tho i didnt had a CC and bought a pre paid one, the trasaction was smooth i got charged only 1 time, i took monthy subscription and now i am into my 3 month and no problem yet.
Also i havent heard of any clan member having problems with billing. I find it curious a 50+ member clan (we even tranfered accounts in the sense of someone bought an account for someone else due to not being able to attend store open time) and not a single billing issue, but you talking about unethical billing practices.
Did you followed the instructions for buying DF ?
describe the progress, maybe you made some error ?
The street field was too long, i had to shorten it to make it fit and also my fisrtname didn't fit. Did you followed the instructions regarding that ?
Like i said, reading forums make me believe people talk about another game then what i play and how i obtained it.
(in really i was nervous obtaineing from all that shittalk people tell here, i checked i double checked, i checked status of tranfer for 4 days and in the end all went smooth and no problem, it was just talking people into panic from some forum trolls here in my case)
I take it you are aware of the multitude of MMO's available on the market right now?
Also I personally have only experienced 1 billing issue since EQ1, yet I know that there have been literally thousands apon thousands of customers who have been over-billed, had accounts cancelled though accounting issues or just been banned for something that was not of their doing.
So while we are aware that these problems occur in other games what make you so absolutely certain that it does not happen in DFO? and if Aventurine has been able to perfect the optimal billing system they should perhaps patent it and sell it on to the hundreds of other MMO's out there right now that damn well need it.
I'm not trying to shoot down DFO, but I find it extremely hard to believe anyone can be so niave to think that their game has no billing issues, becuase everywhere you look every other game, no matter what it is has them.
A new and interesting defence...never seen that one posted before.
I'm sure you'd be able to point out exactly which statements indicate that they don't play...specifically I mean, not generalisms. I'm just curious how you can form that opinion.
You have missed the "lock the forums for not paying customer" petitions in "suggestions" section of the forum.
We customer want the forums locked for only customers.
Ah yes yet another brilliant idea by the person that brought us the "ban all those speaking against the game"...
I hereby nominate Darth for president........of a very remote small piece of rock somewhere in the middle of the ocean where he can all day go around in a town made out of rocks with imaginary people saying "Darth #1 !!!!"
Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*
I'm still waiting for this definitive evidence that so clearly points out that the people making criticisms in that thread don't play.
But seeing as I asked nicely and in a reasonable, logical way, they have no answer...I guess its just another feeble defence used by people who have run out of real answers.
Let's face it, the game's a fail.
The one and only.
you don't need a subscription to post. it's obvious many of those posting aren't even playing. some of their "criticisms" no longer exist in the game anymore.
secondly, of course the ex-WOW crowd is not going to like Darkfall. surely that should be obvious by now.
darkfall = pvp sandbox
WOW = pve themepark
they are diametrically opposed.
why would people who play wow... WANT to play darkfall?
your reasoning makes no sense. STOP TROLLING.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
i play, eurogamer's description of 2/10 is spot on as to how darkfall is... anyone who disagrees --- doesn't play darkfall... it's that simple.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
allow those of us who are playing to have a laugh at this -- in-game the game is just growing by leaps and bounds... there is so much PVP and political stuff going down right now.
funny how all the negative posts in that thread are by obvious troll accounts made in the last couple of months...
more like you guys are *desperate* to make the game fail cause it's not a WOW-clone.
You know that they opened the shop on Wed. Still only to sell a limitted number of accounts. The shop was still open last night, friday evening. It may still be open today, but lets say they finally sold thier limitted number of account last night, that's 3 days to sell a limitted number of accounts.
They can't even sell out of a limitted number of accounts and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
People who actually play the game are posting left and right on the official forums that the playerbase is declining fast, and you got the nerve to talk about leaps and bounds?
Guess what smart guy.
I got an account at the beginning of March, I registered on the forums in Feb. My forum account was made in "the last couple of months".
You and Darth are a trip. You more so then Darth.
You've been proven a liar time and time again and yet you continue to post your blatant BS.
You guys think you're so witty with your CONSTANT WoW references. As if everyone who dislikes crappy games must like WoW.
I got news for you guys.
You guys are the VERY smallest of the minority. That little handful of gamers that LOVES really, horribly, crappy games.
It's called bad taste.
You guys are also the WORST kind of fan a game can have.
All you do is spout about how great it is, willing your eyes shut to the obvious problems, completely inginoring what needs to be fixed and insisting others will LOVE the game. You guys would be better serving your game by shutting your mouths and letting the people that have actual standards do the talking for you so that Av will learn what needs to be fixed. As it is your constant finatical delusions do nothing to help Av or the game.
Wau, look at those caps.
AV knows whats best for the game and every patch shows they on the right track. About forum maniacs like you, they have litle to no influence about it.
Aventurine has gone through vaportrolling, bad review trolls, trash talk trolls and have nontheless build a gem.
you forgot the darktard failtrolls who, at every opportunity, spread outright lies on the state of the game - proclaiming the game to be super great wonderful fantastic!
these darktard failtrolls build up unreasonable expectations in new players. these new players then see the horrid state of the game themselves, and since darktard failtrolls have built them up to believe this is the greatest game EVER.... the new players are that much more disappointed and turn into very anti-darkfall-ex-players.
these players then get flamed by aforementioned darktard failtrolls...
so, the darktard failtrolls are actually the ones perpetuating the bad reviews/feelings/postings about a very mediocre (somewhat bad) game called darkfall.
congrats to all the darktard failtrolls on their great work at destroying darkfall!
bah
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
How accurate can a review be if the reviewer talking about Aventurine offers "a few server" ?
about as accurate as the multiple darkfall supporters who type "servers" in reference to darkfall.
sure hope i haven't seen you do that... oh wait.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?