If your a disillusiond MMO player looking for somewhere fun and exciting to spend your time untill somehting new catches your interest.
Take it from me as a veteran MMO player since 2001, Ive basically tried everything and nothing has held my interest (other than EQ and SWG pre CU) like....dont hate...EQ2
EQ2 has grown into an amazing game with something for everyone, from soloers to Raiders and everyone in between. I wouldnt lie to you guys give it a try you can get all the expansions for like 20 bucks and it has a living and growing community thanks to WoW refugees.
So give it a try untill your new MMO comes out, you wont be disappointed, and hell, if Aion or whatever your waiting for dosent work out, the lovely people of norath will be glad to take you back !
I know how you feel.. it's not just a good game you're looking for - it's a game that you can adept other aspects of your life too. The other games like eq2, warhammer and all the rest don't really appear all over the place. Everywhere you look is Wow stuff, Wow jokes, Wow Pictures, Wow Gold, Wow this, Wow that and Wow players everywhere. That is what feeds your addiction and your commitment to Wow. You feel like if you played a different game - everybody else is playing Wow so what's the point of playing 'insert random game here'? I bet if EQ2 was as widespread it would be the same. Wow even has a Southpark episode dedicated to it.... So you get me?
What I'm trying to tell you... unfortunatly, you're going to have to wait for Aion... like the rest of us
Aion is going nowhere as a Korean mmorpg with winged people.
Could you really see it on top of PC games being sold for the next 2 years ?!? Of course not. And that is simply needed to have 1M western subs in the long run. No way José.
Expect a battle between Blizzard and Bioware in 2010/11, but Aion will be under 300K subs in the western world. No Lore, no name and Korean mmo culture (ough).
You know a lot of European fantasy/myths with "wing grown creatures"???
EQ2 experimented with that and it was ... painful.
OP: as a change try PotBS or EVE (depending on your intrest).
But get back in time to see the fall of the Lich King by winter time. )
Oh and BTW: open world PvP was never better than today in Wow's WotLK. Blizzard has actually problems on their hands to keep players OUT of Lake Wintergrasp. Too many players ...
Obvious Aion hater is hating big time,gb2wow plz and seriously if you are clueless about mithology/fantasy,you should not mention those words,here is some very common stuff tho - ragnarok,odin,valhalla,dragons,egyptian demons ,just the icing of the cake,I wont go any further than mentioning those key words,go and read up if you are truly intrested.
I know how you feel.. it's not just a good game you're looking for - it's a game that you can adept other aspects of your life too. The other games like eq2, warhammer and all the rest don't really appear all over the place. Everywhere you look is Wow stuff, Wow jokes, Wow Pictures, Wow Gold, Wow this, Wow that and Wow players everywhere. That is what feeds your addiction and your commitment to Wow. You feel like if you played a different game - everybody else is playing Wow so what's the point of playing 'insert random game here'? I bet if EQ2 was as widespread it would be the same. Wow even has a Southpark episode dedicated to it.... So you get me?
What I'm trying to tell you... unfortunatly, you're going to have to wait for Aion... like the rest of us
Aion is going nowhere as a Korean mmorpg with winged people.
Could you really see it on top of PC games being sold for the next 2 years ?!? Of course not. And that is simply needed to have 1M western subs in the long run. No way José.
Expect a battle between Blizzard and Bioware in 2010/11, but Aion will be under 300K subs in the western world. No Lore, no name and Korean mmo culture (ough).
You know a lot of European fantasy/myths with "wing grown creatures"???
EQ2 experimented with that and it was ... painful.
OP: as a change try PotBS or EVE (depending on your intrest).
But get back in time to see the fall of the Lich King by winter time. )
Oh and BTW: open world PvP was never better than today in Wow's WotLK. Blizzard has actually problems on their hands to keep players OUT of Lake Wintergrasp. Too many players ...
have you actually played aion ? i mean i hav nt but i m keeping an open mind . i m not a great fan of eastern mmos i ll admit but i m intreagued by the lack of negativity about this game by those that have played it . when you look a single player games it does nt really matter if they come from the east . i mean the final fantasy series is enormously successful . personally i dont care if its tolkienesque fantasy like warcraft or weather its eastern fantasy like final fantasy . as long as its a good game . actually it ll be refeshing not to see an elf /dwarf/tauren around every corner .
i share a lot of the ops view myself . i ve been playing warcraft for 4 years ( on and off ) and the game is nt as good as it once was . the problem is blizzard have made everything too easy leveling to 60 used to be fun but because its so fast now between the levels 20-60 its nearly impossible to do instances at those levels on most servers which was half the fun . levels 60-80 are somewhat better i ll admit . also when you get to level 80 epics are so easy to obtain . because the battlegrounds now give great honor weather you win or lose . people dont bother learning the tactics .
i ve recently decided to take a break . i do intend to return for a month later in the year just to finnishing getting a few welfare epics for my two main characters via the battleground . warcrafts just not worth playing regulary now . after all once you ve done the quests a bit of raiding and got some decent gear its pointless playing . because everything you have now will be out of date by the time of the next expansion . warcrafts something i stil enjoy now and then i ll proberbly play it sporadically for years to come .
of course if aion really is the next big thing or some other game comes along which expands the mmo genre and is fun to play . there wont be much point going back to an increasingly dated game such as warcraft will there .
lord of the rings is nt a bad pve game . the reason i avoid it now is because i had a few problems with codemasters charging my paypal account after i cancelled via the accounts page . unfortunatly by the time i noticed what happened a couple of months had lapsed and they refused to refund me , even though they could see i d not logged into the game over that time . from what i ve read a few people have had similar problems so if you do decide lotro is for you i would go down the time card route .
You'de better realize the fact that there is nothing better than WoW on the market at this point. I've gone to hell and back to find a new MMO but i am always comparing them to Warcraft. I recently played Chronicles of Spellborn but got sick of it after 15 levels. Tried Battlefield Heroes and had a blast for two weeks, but after level 16-18 or so it got boring (why do they even have levels in this game?)
So now i am desperatly waiting for Star Wars The Old Republic to arrive since SWG was my first true MMO love. Before that i am going to try out Champions Online if it ever will be released? Was also thinking of Everquest 2 which however have outdated graphics, but it does seem to have a lot of the elements i liked in SWG so we'll see... there's a trial on for EQ2 so maybe i'll give it a shot?
About a year ago i played Warhammer Online which i liked, but again got tired off. Also tried the LOTRO trial and initially fell for the game due to the beautiful scenery. Before this i went into the the realms of Age of Conan -- kinda nice game but lacking on many fronts.
There really is a MMO jungle out there, escpecially with all the Korean free-to-play games, so good luck to you! ^^
have you actually played aion ? i mean i hav nt but i m keeping an open mind . i m not a great fan of eastern mmos i ll admit but i m intreagued by the lack of negativity about this game by those that have played it .... of course if aion really is the next big thing or some other game comes along which expands the mmo genre and is fun to play . there wont be much point going back to an increasingly dated game such as warcraft will there .
I doubt Aion is the next big thing, because of Korean "Lore" and winged avatars. It is all about hype again (as for the 12th time in a row...).
But look at this graph...with an "open mind" and for ONCE don't believe the (paid) hype....
Even to devotees it is not holding much ground ...
I would call it the "known free 4 weeks fall of new hyped mmorpg's"....
Any explanation??? from the fans ? ----> except for the fact we already saw this in AoC Beta, War Beta...
Expect the next big thing to be the new Bioware and Blizzard MMO's. Until then you can always play a niche game, but there is only one mainstream till 2010/2011.
Perhaps GW2, but save the money on the rest please. They simply are NOT worth it, unless you want something niche with a theme like PotBS.
Dude it's like clockwork. Why is it that everyone of your posts point to sub number links or Xfire activity?
Give Aion a chance man, It's only been released in like two countries.
Must you start on every game that might be better than Wow so early?
I played WoW for several years, and really burned myself out on it. Took a pally to 60, a lock to 70, with a number of twinks inbetween. Never did end game, I was a PvP whore. I haven't played in over a year, and I refuse to go back. I want something new. So, to all of the recovering (recovered?) WoW addicts out there... What do you play now? Which games are worth investing my time into? Is there anything yet? Do I wait for an upcoming release?
Wait for Aion to come out in September, it already has 3.5 million subs in Asia.
I was in Chinese OB, it's insane... quite similar to WoW, except it's just a lot better.
I played WoW for several years, and really burned myself out on it. Took a pally to 60, a lock to 70, with a number of twinks inbetween. Never did end game, I was a PvP whore. I haven't played in over a year, and I refuse to go back. I want something new. So, to all of the recovering (recovered?) WoW addicts out there... What do you play now? Which games are worth investing my time into? Is there anything yet? Do I wait for an upcoming release?
Wait for Aion to come out in September, it already has 3.5 million subs in Asia.
I was in Chinese OB, it's insane... quite similar to WoW, except it's just a lot better.
The 3.5 miilion is .. a lie. They only have around 160 servers. That would mean they only can host a max of 1.500.000 people.
I played WoW for several years, and really burned myself out on it. Took a pally to 60, a lock to 70, with a number of twinks inbetween. Never did end game, I was a PvP whore. I haven't played in over a year, and I refuse to go back. I want something new. So, to all of the recovering (recovered?) WoW addicts out there... What do you play now? Which games are worth investing my time into? Is there anything yet? Do I wait for an upcoming release?
Wait for Aion to come out in September, it already has 3.5 million subs in Asia.
I was in Chinese OB, it's insane... quite similar to WoW, except it's just a lot better.
The 3.5 miilion is .. a lie. They only have around 160 servers. That would mean they only can host a max of 1.500.000 people.
IF it would be such a tremendous new world why would the ones playing on Chinese servers (with the english patch) stop playing ?
Like I said: westeren Fantasy based mmorpg's have a complete different tradition when it comes to playing avatars with "wings" on their shoulders.
Don't believe me: believe the activity graph ... the same as AoC beta and War beta... and the faith of these games we know.
I love how this guy considers everything every other MMO company states as a lie but believes everything Blizzard says.
Fanbots are crazy on this site.
Lets have Aion release worldwide before you hold up the MMO championship belt as a blizzard fanbot.
1. Look at the facts and then deduct the obvious. 160 servers in Fantasy mmorpg's = 10K subs per server of whch 3 K can play concurrently. That's a max of 1.5 M at max load.
2. Also you don't seem to understand that to have a massive mmorpg succes these days you need to have the LORE, the marketing, the game and the mainstream intrest.
3. All except (perhaps) the game quality is not even present. And apparently people who take the effort of downloading a Chinese version with the english patch don't seem to stay in the game at all....God I love Xfire these days. It shows trends before anyone else is viewing it.
4. So hang on before making absurd conclusions and fall (again) into the hype.
As if nobody learns the lessons of the past 3 years.....
Please don;t start with your server tech mumbo jumbo, You have no idea how many accounts are locked into one server or its activity at any particular time.
I personally have no idea about Aions Lore but they seem to be doing fine if they can publicly state that they have 3.5 million subs.
Anyone can see the players that are trying Aion with the english patch are just demoing the game. They intend to play when it hits in NA and Euro. I wouldn;t put too much into those numbers Zorn.
Seriously Zorn what are you going to do if Aion surpasses WoW in subs? are you going to be like the rest of us and say quality can;t be messured by sub numbers? I'm sure you will.
Hey, Belle here. Full time mom of 3. Married to Dwayne. Moved to the US some years ago. Love it! "Forget the unwritten, uncollected works of the poet You never were." - a song lyric from Saetia, my fave band in the world.
I can only speak for myself and and my husband, but we have played two different lots of 15 free days, Elyos and Asmodian. There is only 4-5 days left of the free region time and we have had more than enough time to test out what we wanted, and know we will be pre-ordering the CE and playing Australian release.
From reading different posts here and on some other sites a lot of people
are doing the same, testing and now waiting for release.
I have never used xfire and I never will.
I don't think the Koreans or the Chinese are clamouring to use it either...
Aion is no longer in beta in Korea/China.
Oh and I'm sure I'm getting paid to hype the game, with my massive post count and all.
On Topic.
There are a lot of free trials for different games out there, you're the only one who will
1. Look at the facts and then deduct the obvious. 160 servers in Fantasy mmorpg's = 10K subs per server of whch 3 K can play concurrently. That's a max of 1.5 M at max load. 2. Also you don't seem to understand that to have a massive mmorpg succes these days you need to have the LORE, the marketing, the game and the mainstream intrest. 3. All except (perhaps) the game quality is not even present. And apparently people who take the effort of downloading a Chinese version with the english patch don't seem to stay in the game at all....God I love Xfire these days. It shows trends before anyone else is viewing it. 4. So hang on before making absurd conclusions and fall (again) into the hype. As if nobody learns the lessons of the past 3 years.....
Please don;t start with your server tech mumbo jumbo, You have no idea how many accounts are locked into one server or its activity at any particular time.
I personally have no idea about Aions Lore but they seem to be doing fine if they can publicly state that they have 3.5 million subs.
Anyone can see the players that are trying Aion with the english patch are just demoing the game. They intend to play when it hits in NA and Euro. I wouldn;t put too much into those numbers Zorn.
Seriously Zorn what are you going to do if Aion surpasses WoW in subs? are you going to be like the rest of us and say quality can;t be messured by sub numbers? I'm sure you will.
The last officially announced subs were 1.5 M and it is surprisingly accurate in relation to the last known number of known servers. What a journalist writes about X million "accounts" created or "connections" is quite a different matter.
----- > Now why would the game show more than 50% decrease in playing time over a 4 week period? I follow Xfire stats as a tool in the last years ...
The trend it shows always was right on top when predicting the (later) popularity of games in our western world. Even in Beta or especially in Beta, as the most fanatics come in the new games through this gate. A gate that only opens up to people that WANT to play the game.
Vanguard Beta, TR Beta, Aoc Beta, War Beta.... I don't mind if some people don't understand or downplay the value of these 250K Xfire samples for on line play predictions
But say you heard it (or better) saw it on Xfire first.
The last officially announced subs were 1.5 M and it is surprisingly accurate in relation to the last known number of known servers. What a journalist writes about X million "accounts" created or "connections" is quite a different matter.
----- > Now why would the game show more than 50% decrease in playing time over a 4 week period? I follow Xfire stats as a tool in the last years ... The trend it shows always was right on top when predicting the (later) popularity of games in our western world. Even in Beta or especially in Beta, as the most fanatics come in the new games through this gate. A gate that only opens up to people that WANT to play the game. Vanguard Beta, TR Beta, Aoc Beta, War Beta.... I don't mind if some people don't understand or downplay the value of these 250K Xfire samples for on line play predictions But say you heard it (or better) saw it on Xfire first. PS. You never answered the question about : http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion_The_Tower_of_Eternity/
I wouldn't go by Xfire numbers until its released Worldwide. I have no idea how many people are just crossing Ips and using the english patch.
You're putting way too much faith into Xfire with such a limited release.
Personally I don't even care for Aion but to doom and gloom the god damn thing when its released in two countries so far is a bit much.
We have no idea whats going to happen.
I am NOT predicting gloom and doom. On the contrary, it might be a very nice game. But the game will still be niche compared to the new Bioware and Blizzard MMO's.
And Xfire shows it is not having staying power with Xfire players at the moment. It may well be that this is explained with just small trials of players waiting for a western release, but I think the number of testers and their playing time should go up instead of down.
Making a judgment about the US release of Aion based on Xfire info on the Chinese release is a ridiculously poor idea. US players are just downloading Aion for a sneak peak, and have no intention of playing it seriously, investing time/money in a character they will have to drop when switching to the US release. And those who would go through the effort to sign up for the Chineese release, and get a working patch for some english translations, would likely have jumped on it quickly and done it as soon as possible, so it makes sense that the numbers would go down.
The last officially announced subs were 1.5 M and it is surprisingly accurate in relation to the last known number of known servers. What a journalist writes about X million "accounts" created or "connections" is quite a different matter.
----- > Now why would the game show more than 50% decrease in playing time over a 4 week period? I follow Xfire stats as a tool in the last years ... The trend it shows always was right on top when predicting the (later) popularity of games in our western world. Even in Beta or especially in Beta, as the most fanatics come in the new games through this gate. A gate that only opens up to people that WANT to play the game. Vanguard Beta, TR Beta, Aoc Beta, War Beta.... I don't mind if some people don't understand or downplay the value of these 250K Xfire samples for on line play predictions But say you heard it (or better) saw it on Xfire first. PS. You never answered the question about : http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion_The_Tower_of_Eternity/
I wouldn't go by Xfire numbers until its released Worldwide. I have no idea how many people are just crossing Ips and using the english patch.
You're putting way too much faith into Xfire with such a limited release.
Personally I don't even care for Aion but to doom and gloom the god damn thing when its released in two countries so far is a bit much.
We have no idea whats going to happen.
I am NOT predicting gloom and doom. On the contrary, it might be a very nice game. But the game will still be niche compared to the new Bioware and Blizzard MMO's.
You have no idea if it will or not. Hell I think Biowares MMOs is going to be as successful as Guildwars at best.
And Xfire shows it is not having staying power with Xfire players at the moment. It may well be that this is explained with just small trials of players waiting for a western release, but I think the number of testers and their playing time should go up instead of down.
We really have no idea why people are playing or not playing this game atm. Your looking at Xfire numbers of people playing Aion that arent supposed to even have access to the game.
Let's just wait until we actually have the game worldwide and then lets see if its really as big a deal as the fans are making it out to be.
I played WOW for 2 years before being done with it. i tried several games after that but only Rappelz could catch me for a while (untill the marketing guys took over and decided to let their item mall prevail over gameplay and fun).
After a few hours in each new game you realize that you have to start again where you left off in WOW: you have to get levels, gear, in such away that you can compete again.
I am currently playing Aion. Graphics are superb, best i have ever seen (well maybe LOTRO beats it still, but its a close finish). Levelling feels slow: after playing a few days i am level 9.....in most games you get to level 9 in an hour. Since i am playing the chinese version and didnt get the famoush E patch to work, i have to do quest by simply killing random mobs till the quest counter starts to increase. At 10 or 11 or so you get flight, something i am looking forward to. I havent done any pvp yet, so cant tell you if its like WOW or totally different. There are some YouTube vids about it, you can get a bit of a first impression that way. Am i hooked? hard to say, i am not looking forward to all the levels ahead. These days i dont care as much anymore for the journey as i used to.
Currently playing browser games. Waiting for Albion Online, Citadel of Sorcery and Camelot Unchained. Played: almost all MMO pre 2007
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Give LOTRO a try. They have a free trial now.
If your a disillusiond MMO player looking for somewhere fun and exciting to spend your time untill somehting new catches your interest.
Take it from me as a veteran MMO player since 2001, Ive basically tried everything and nothing has held my interest (other than EQ and SWG pre CU) like....dont hate...EQ2
EQ2 has grown into an amazing game with something for everyone, from soloers to Raiders and everyone in between. I wouldnt lie to you guys give it a try you can get all the expansions for like 20 bucks and it has a living and growing community thanks to WoW refugees.
So give it a try untill your new MMO comes out, you wont be disappointed, and hell, if Aion or whatever your waiting for dosent work out, the lovely people of norath will be glad to take you back !
The new EQ2, better than ever befor !
don't click this link...
Aion is going nowhere as a Korean mmorpg with winged people.
Could you really see it on top of PC games being sold for the next 2 years ?!? Of course not. And that is simply needed to have 1M western subs in the long run. No way José.
Expect a battle between Blizzard and Bioware in 2010/11, but Aion will be under 300K subs in the western world. No Lore, no name and Korean mmo culture (ough).
You know a lot of European fantasy/myths with "wing grown creatures"???
EQ2 experimented with that and it was ... painful.
OP: as a change try PotBS or EVE (depending on your intrest).
But get back in time to see the fall of the Lich King by winter time.
)
Oh and BTW: open world PvP was never better than today in Wow's WotLK. Blizzard has actually problems on their hands to keep players OUT of Lake Wintergrasp. Too many players ...
Obvious Aion hater is hating big time,gb2wow plz and seriously if you are clueless about mithology/fantasy,you should not mention those words,here is some very common stuff tho - ragnarok,odin,valhalla,dragons,egyptian demons ,just the icing of the cake,I wont go any further than mentioning those key words,go and read up if you are truly intrested.
Seems you were living under a rock when Darkfail had 10 people with 30-50 accounts each just hyping it and dehyping everything else.
Seriously gb2wow.
Aion is going nowhere as a Korean mmorpg with winged people.
Could you really see it on top of PC games being sold for the next 2 years ?!? Of course not. And that is simply needed to have 1M western subs in the long run. No way José.
Expect a battle between Blizzard and Bioware in 2010/11, but Aion will be under 300K subs in the western world. No Lore, no name and Korean mmo culture (ough).
You know a lot of European fantasy/myths with "wing grown creatures"???
EQ2 experimented with that and it was ... painful.
OP: as a change try PotBS or EVE (depending on your intrest).
But get back in time to see the fall of the Lich King by winter time.
)
Oh and BTW: open world PvP was never better than today in Wow's WotLK. Blizzard has actually problems on their hands to keep players OUT of Lake Wintergrasp. Too many players ...
have you actually played aion ? i mean i hav nt but i m keeping an open mind . i m not a great fan of eastern mmos i ll admit but i m intreagued by the lack of negativity about this game by those that have played it . when you look a single player games it does nt really matter if they come from the east . i mean the final fantasy series is enormously successful . personally i dont care if its tolkienesque fantasy like warcraft or weather its eastern fantasy like final fantasy . as long as its a good game . actually it ll be refeshing not to see an elf /dwarf/tauren around every corner .
i share a lot of the ops view myself . i ve been playing warcraft for 4 years ( on and off ) and the game is nt as good as it once was . the problem is blizzard have made everything too easy leveling to 60 used to be fun but because its so fast now between the levels 20-60 its nearly impossible to do instances at those levels on most servers which was half the fun . levels 60-80 are somewhat better i ll admit . also when you get to level 80 epics are so easy to obtain . because the battlegrounds now give great honor weather you win or lose . people dont bother learning the tactics .
i ve recently decided to take a break . i do intend to return for a month later in the year just to finnishing getting a few welfare epics for my two main characters via the battleground . warcrafts just not worth playing regulary now . after all once you ve done the quests a bit of raiding and got some decent gear its pointless playing . because everything you have now will be out of date by the time of the next expansion . warcrafts something i stil enjoy now and then i ll proberbly play it sporadically for years to come .
of course if aion really is the next big thing or some other game comes along which expands the mmo genre and is fun to play . there wont be much point going back to an increasingly dated game such as warcraft will there .
lord of the rings is nt a bad pve game . the reason i avoid it now is because i had a few problems with codemasters charging my paypal account after i cancelled via the accounts page . unfortunatly by the time i noticed what happened a couple of months had lapsed and they refused to refund me , even though they could see i d not logged into the game over that time . from what i ve read a few people have had similar problems so if you do decide lotro is for you i would go down the time card route .
You'de better realize the fact that there is nothing better than WoW on the market at this point. I've gone to hell and back to find a new MMO but i am always comparing them to Warcraft. I recently played Chronicles of Spellborn but got sick of it after 15 levels. Tried Battlefield Heroes and had a blast for two weeks, but after level 16-18 or so it got boring (why do they even have levels in this game?)
So now i am desperatly waiting for Star Wars The Old Republic to arrive since SWG was my first true MMO love. Before that i am going to try out Champions Online if it ever will be released? Was also thinking of Everquest 2 which however have outdated graphics, but it does seem to have a lot of the elements i liked in SWG so we'll see... there's a trial on for EQ2 so maybe i'll give it a shot?
About a year ago i played Warhammer Online which i liked, but again got tired off. Also tried the LOTRO trial and initially fell for the game due to the beautiful scenery. Before this i went into the the realms of Age of Conan -- kinda nice game but lacking on many fronts.
There really is a MMO jungle out there, escpecially with all the Korean free-to-play games, so good luck to you! ^^
I doubt Aion is the next big thing, because of Korean "Lore" and winged avatars. It is all about hype again (as for the 12th time in a row...).
But look at this graph...with an "open mind" and for ONCE don't believe the (paid) hype....
Even to devotees it is not holding much ground ...
http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion_The_Tower_of_Eternity/ ..... Staggering ain't it ?
I would call it the "known free 4 weeks fall of new hyped mmorpg's"....
Any explanation??? from the fans ? ----> except for the fact we already saw this in AoC Beta, War Beta...
Expect the next big thing to be the new Bioware and Blizzard MMO's. Until then you can always play a niche game, but there is only one mainstream till 2010/2011.
Perhaps GW2, but save the money on the rest please. They simply are NOT worth it, unless you want something niche with a theme like PotBS.
Dude it's like clockwork. Why is it that everyone of your posts point to sub number links or Xfire activity?
Give Aion a chance man, It's only been released in like two countries.
Must you start on every game that might be better than Wow so early?
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
Wait for Aion to come out in September, it already has 3.5 million subs in Asia.
I was in Chinese OB, it's insane... quite similar to WoW, except it's just a lot better.
Wait for Aion to come out in September, it already has 3.5 million subs in Asia.
I was in Chinese OB, it's insane... quite similar to WoW, except it's just a lot better.
The 3.5 miilion is .. a lie. They only have around 160 servers. That would mean they only can host a max of 1.500.000 people.
http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion_The_Tower_of_Eternity/
Any remarks on the graph?
IF it would be such a tremendous new world why would the ones playing on Chinese servers (with the english patch) stop playing ?
Like I said: westeren Fantasy based mmorpg's have a complete different tradition when it comes to playing avatars with "wings" on their shoulders.
Don't believe me: believe the activity graph ... the same as AoC beta and War beta... and the faith of these games we know.
I love how this guy considers everything every other MMO company states as a lie but believes everything Blizzard says.
Fanbots are crazy on this site.
Lets have Aion release worldwide before you hold up the MMO championship belt as a blizzard fanbot.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
Wait for Aion to come out in September, it already has 3.5 million subs in Asia.
I was in Chinese OB, it's insane... quite similar to WoW, except it's just a lot better.
The 3.5 miilion is .. a lie. They only have around 160 servers. That would mean they only can host a max of 1.500.000 people.
http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion_The_Tower_of_Eternity/
Any remarks on the graph?
IF it would be such a tremendous new world why would the ones playing on Chinese servers (with the english patch) stop playing ?
Like I said: westeren Fantasy based mmorpg's have a complete different tradition when it comes to playing avatars with "wings" on their shoulders.
Don't believe me: believe the activity graph ... the same as AoC beta and War beta... and the faith of these games we know.
I love how this guy considers everything every other MMO company states as a lie but believes everything Blizzard says.
Fanbots are crazy on this site.
Lets have Aion release worldwide before you hold up the MMO championship belt as a blizzard fanbot.
1. Look at the facts and then deduct the obvious. 160 servers in Fantasy mmorpg's = 10K subs per server of whch 3 K can play concurrently. That's a max of 1.5 M at max load.
2. Also you don't seem to understand that to have a massive mmorpg succes these days you need to have the LORE, the marketing, the game and the mainstream intrest.
3. All except (perhaps) the game quality is not even present. And apparently people who take the effort of downloading a Chinese version with the english patch don't seem to stay in the game at all....God I love Xfire these days. It shows trends before anyone else is viewing it.
4. So hang on before making absurd conclusions and fall (again) into the hype.
As if nobody learns the lessons of the past 3 years.....
Please don;t start with your server tech mumbo jumbo, You have no idea how many accounts are locked into one server or its activity at any particular time.
I personally have no idea about Aions Lore but they seem to be doing fine if they can publicly state that they have 3.5 million subs.
Anyone can see the players that are trying Aion with the english patch are just demoing the game. They intend to play when it hits in NA and Euro. I wouldn;t put too much into those numbers Zorn.
Seriously Zorn what are you going to do if Aion surpasses WoW in subs? are you going to be like the rest of us and say quality can;t be messured by sub numbers? I'm sure you will.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
You're going off Xfire data - how many people actually use Xfire? It's a very small subset of data to base your arguments on. Just saying.
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"Forget the unwritten, uncollected works of the poet
You never were." - a song lyric from Saetia, my fave band in the world.
I can only speak for myself and and my husband, but we have played two different lots of 15 free days, Elyos and Asmodian. There is only 4-5 days left of the free region time and we have had more than enough time to test out what we wanted, and know we will be pre-ordering the CE and playing Australian release.
From reading different posts here and on some other sites a lot of people
are doing the same, testing and now waiting for release.
I have never used xfire and I never will.
I don't think the Koreans or the Chinese are clamouring to use it either...
Aion is no longer in beta in Korea/China.
Oh and I'm sure I'm getting paid to hype the game, with my massive post count and all.
On Topic.
There are a lot of free trials for different games out there, you're the only one who will
know if a game is right for you
Please don;t start with your server tech mumbo jumbo, You have no idea how many accounts are locked into one server or its activity at any particular time.
I personally have no idea about Aions Lore but they seem to be doing fine if they can publicly state that they have 3.5 million subs.
Anyone can see the players that are trying Aion with the english patch are just demoing the game. They intend to play when it hits in NA and Euro. I wouldn;t put too much into those numbers Zorn.
Seriously Zorn what are you going to do if Aion surpasses WoW in subs? are you going to be like the rest of us and say quality can;t be messured by sub numbers? I'm sure you will.
The last officially announced subs were 1.5 M and it is surprisingly accurate in relation to the last known number of known servers. What a journalist writes about X million "accounts" created or "connections" is quite a different matter.
----- > Now why would the game show more than 50% decrease in playing time over a 4 week period? I follow Xfire stats as a tool in the last years ...
The trend it shows always was right on top when predicting the (later) popularity of games in our western world. Even in Beta or especially in Beta, as the most fanatics come in the new games through this gate. A gate that only opens up to people that WANT to play the game.
Vanguard Beta, TR Beta, Aoc Beta, War Beta.... I don't mind if some people don't understand or downplay the value of these 250K Xfire samples for on line play predictions
But say you heard it (or better) saw it on Xfire first.
PS. You never answered the question about : http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion_The_Tower_of_Eternity/
I wouldn't go by Xfire numbers until its released Worldwide. I have no idea how many people are just crossing Ips and using the english patch.
You're putting way too much faith into Xfire with such a limited release.
Personally I don't even care for Aion but to doom and gloom the god damn thing when its released in two countries so far is a bit much.
We have no idea whats going to happen.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
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Playing: EvE, Ryzom
I wouldn't go by Xfire numbers until its released Worldwide. I have no idea how many people are just crossing Ips and using the english patch.
You're putting way too much faith into Xfire with such a limited release.
Personally I don't even care for Aion but to doom and gloom the god damn thing when its released in two countries so far is a bit much.
We have no idea whats going to happen.
I am NOT predicting gloom and doom. On the contrary, it might be a very nice game. But the game will still be niche compared to the new Bioware and Blizzard MMO's.
And Xfire shows it is not having staying power with Xfire players at the moment. It may well be that this is explained with just small trials of players waiting for a western release, but I think the number of testers and their playing time should go up instead of down.
Making a judgment about the US release of Aion based on Xfire info on the Chinese release is a ridiculously poor idea. US players are just downloading Aion for a sneak peak, and have no intention of playing it seriously, investing time/money in a character they will have to drop when switching to the US release. And those who would go through the effort to sign up for the Chineese release, and get a working patch for some english translations, would likely have jumped on it quickly and done it as soon as possible, so it makes sense that the numbers would go down.
I wouldn't go by Xfire numbers until its released Worldwide. I have no idea how many people are just crossing Ips and using the english patch.
You're putting way too much faith into Xfire with such a limited release.
Personally I don't even care for Aion but to doom and gloom the god damn thing when its released in two countries so far is a bit much.
We have no idea whats going to happen.
I am NOT predicting gloom and doom. On the contrary, it might be a very nice game. But the game will still be niche compared to the new Bioware and Blizzard MMO's.
You have no idea if it will or not. Hell I think Biowares MMOs is going to be as successful as Guildwars at best.
And Xfire shows it is not having staying power with Xfire players at the moment. It may well be that this is explained with just small trials of players waiting for a western release, but I think the number of testers and their playing time should go up instead of down.
We really have no idea why people are playing or not playing this game atm. Your looking at Xfire numbers of people playing Aion that arent supposed to even have access to the game.
Let's just wait until we actually have the game worldwide and then lets see if its really as big a deal as the fans are making it out to be.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
I played WOW for 2 years before being done with it. i tried several games after that but only Rappelz could catch me for a while (untill the marketing guys took over and decided to let their item mall prevail over gameplay and fun).
After a few hours in each new game you realize that you have to start again where you left off in WOW: you have to get levels, gear, in such away that you can compete again.
I am currently playing Aion. Graphics are superb, best i have ever seen (well maybe LOTRO beats it still, but its a close finish). Levelling feels slow: after playing a few days i am level 9.....in most games you get to level 9 in an hour. Since i am playing the chinese version and didnt get the famoush E patch to work, i have to do quest by simply killing random mobs till the quest counter starts to increase. At 10 or 11 or so you get flight, something i am looking forward to. I havent done any pvp yet, so cant tell you if its like WOW or totally different. There are some YouTube vids about it, you can get a bit of a first impression that way. Am i hooked? hard to say, i am not looking forward to all the levels ahead. These days i dont care as much anymore for the journey as i used to.
Currently playing browser games. Waiting for Albion Online, Citadel of Sorcery and Camelot Unchained.
Played: almost all MMO pre 2007