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Guys.. .. All big game studios are moving to the consoles. No one is on the PC, other than people that by economics or culture are rooted to the PC. So the next cool games will come from Russia, Brazil or Australia. Devs from UK, USA, Germany, Spain, Italia, Japan, etc.. will be making games for the consoles, because is where the money is to be made, no the PC.
Our eyes as to focus on these country, and start to love his crazyness. The good news, is that theres are lots of dev's on these countrys, and where really creative.
Of course, production values will be lower, often, but we will not notice, because production values from the countrys we know today are lowering standards...
Also, sorry PvE guys, but the future is PvP. Is just more cheap to make a empty map, and let the players fight , that build history, quest, npc's, etc..
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Asia is where I'm betting the bulk of game development is going to come from on tthe PC...
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Dude you got it bassackwards. Heard of Onlive or Gakai? They make consoles obsolete. Computers however do more than gaming therefore not hurting them as bad.
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I think it's fairly hard to take you seriously when it's "2nd" instead of "Two-eth."
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As the OP doesn't use any "facts" to base his statements on, this is yet another thread to ignore...
I don't see pc games fading any time soon. I own 2 pc's a PS3, Xbox 360 and and Wii and I still prefer pc gaming. I'm sure I'm not alone in this. Especially an MMO. I honestly don't see them working as well as they do on the PC. I have never sat down with any console and said "Gee, wish I could play WoW or EQ from here. Again, just my opinion. But I've seen people claim the same thing you have and look, still no decent mmo on a console and I really don't see one in my sights.
Also just my opinion, I don't see PvE going anywhere any time soon. What makes these games are the tools that form communities. I'll pass on empty maps full of teenagers with raging hormones that just like to grief people. You want to make me like PvP make it sensible. I can't really think of a game that was built around PvP that has been anywhere as big as a game like WoW or EQ. Well DaoC did in a way I guess. But they did it in a good way and it was fun. But you also weren't forced to mingle gankers if you preferred doing something else.
Me, I'd like to see a game that makes people group. That doesn't give you a little glowing trail to do you quests. Factions and racial hatred. Throw in dangerous things into lower level zones once in awhile. That has a great atmosphere. There has been no game that can give me chills just from sounds and surroundings like EQ did. When you were low level and you walked through Kith forest, you could feel fear.
What exactly is a 2th world country? Is it a country run by dentists?
Interesting opinions by the OP, but he doesn't have any evidence to either back it up, or explain where his opinion is coming from. Aka, this is entirely unfounded speculation. If by 'PC games' he means MMOs, then the OP would only be correct if instead of developed countries he meant 'the west', and instead of 2th world countries he meant 'the east'. However, even though most MMOs atm are coming out of the asian region, there isn't a whole lot of creativity coming from those games. They are known more for style, rather than ingenuity.
I read an article ...i believe in PC magazine online.....that had PC game sales drop 23% in 2007 and made up 14% of total video game sales....another article online had a 14% decrease in PC game sales for 2008 and ..If I remember correctly ...they made up about 15% of total video game sales. Sorry ...no links...but if you feel like it...enter "pc game sales in 2007" or "2008" and you should find the same info. I like both ...but find it easier to do everything on the computer....If I could afford to own all systems I would...but not practical for me at this point. Instead I'll stick with the "all-in-one" PC...where I watch most of my movies...TV...play all of my video games..as well as shopping ..news ...email...etc.
edit: previous post was too funny....or tooth funny.lol
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Just wait for Starcraft2 or Diablo3. Watch those games earn millions more than console games. And its gonna be an MMO made by a 1st world country.
I wonder where did he dug up Brazil... O.O i mean, i cant even recall anything concerning computers about the country, not to mention its a 3rd world country, not 2nd
Either way, i will also go with Asia for the next big hits, they are already starting to mess with the market with games like Aion, and companys like NCSoft are already working in some new big projects.
while its true/possible that we might eventually get an extremely good game that will get extremely popular from some unknown developers, but OP is just retarded.
1. he claims that future is pvp. well hello there - most of mmo that are released right now ARE pvp. 'the future is now' lol?
2. 2nd world countries? lolwhat i expected some list of unknown countries that have trouble getting even such simple things as electricity.
3. start to love the crazyness? you mean to expect something new? and then again you mention a few things that are already in mmos.
4. its not a matter of country. there are creative people everythere. im pretty sure a lot of devs could break loose and brainstorm loads of creative ideas. why dont they do that? its too much risk. what if it doesnt sell well?
Lets not forget the 4nd world countries ...maybe the OP meant Second Life countries....entire shitty continents made up of 2nd rate virtual countries in a more than craptastic game.
You said....2th.
/retarded.
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I stopped reading when you implied that Australia was Second World, somone needs to go back to school
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World
I wonder where did he dug up Brazil... O.O i mean, i cant even recall anything concerning computers about the country, not to mention its a 3rd world country, not 2nd, altho today Brazil borrows money to the IMF, which is where the US borrow some money from.
Either way, i will also go with Asia for the next big hits, they are already starting to mess with the market with games like Aion, and companys like NCSoft are already working in some new big projects.
Fixed.
And no, Brazil isn't a 3rd world country. The term is really an outdated concept, as it haven't been updated in 20 years. Brazil has an amazing HDI (Human Development Index), things that you should study before classifying other's countries by "eye-balling" it.
1. It's 2nd as in second. You use the th for numbers after 3rd (4th, 5th, 6th, etc). Sorry for being like a grammar nazi, but it was really bothering me. You should also go over most of the grammar in your post, because I can't understand quite a few of the sentences.
2. 2nd World Country is an obselete term. It use to refer to the Soviet Union back before 1st and 3rd World meant how influential and wealthy a country is. Wikipedia reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World. The term is never used anymore.
3. Russia is a 1st World Country (global superpower). It has a large and powerful military, is involved in most major world issues, and does well in global trade. The same can be said of Australia and Brazil, though they aren't as much of a superpower as Russia.
4. Spain and Italy don't produce a lot of games. It's also odd you would put them below Russia in the country rankings. France produces a lot more games than both these countries.
5. I've never heard of any games coming out of Brazil. Russia make several games though and Australia makes a few (but I can't think of any major game production companies with headquarters there).
6. A lot of these low production games coming from these countries don't push creativity. They make a lot of generic shooters or RTS games. A lot of games that have been released from these countries have metacritic ratings below 50 (and game reviewers are overly generous!). There is plenty of creativity coming from countries like Japan and the US.
7. Some of these countries have overly harsh censorship laws that might hinder game development. They also might have trouble porting the game over internationally due to trade laws. Their games might not get enough funding through release in their countries due to not enough of the population owning computers too. Some countries that may not be global superpowers get around this by having a large amount of internet cafes such as Korea.
I perscribe the following medication to the OP: Cyanide
Consoles are PCs, Consoles are not the future, PCs are the future and always will be. PCs are always getting better every month, consoles only get better once a half decade.
MMOs are never to be used in consoles, reference: Everquest online Adventures.
Games in PC will always be better than Consoles ((See "lag" for more details))
Monitors have a better resolution than the most expensive TV.
You sir, need to die.
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Is "2th" the new text slang for "tooth"? If so, where is this tooth world country located? I assume they have great dental benefits for all citizens, correct?
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There is no real game production in Brazil, small brazilian game companies doesn't have money, experience and there is no governmental support.
Games produced in Germany are usually "harmless" children productions and some old school shooters, sure, Germany, Spain and Italy are incredible countries full of culture but game production are not really there and never were.
Russia already has some impressive titles for PC and Consoles like Kings Bounty, Disciples etc
PC is very popular in game market today, don't you realize every major console game is available on PC and there is more MMO titles than ever?
Even Capcom and Square are back on PC.
Steam is a huge sucess.
1-There will be a lot of new and impressive games from Russia, China and Korea and no, they are not "(2th) world countries".
2-The fulture is not Console or PC but multiplataform.
3-Empty maps are easy to do but gamers and developers are not interested on it.
4-You don't know much about the world.
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When we started to see news on TV people started to say the News papers were going to die.
PC = News paper
Console = News on TV
Teiman
There is no real game production in Brazil, small brazilian game companies doesn't have money, experience and there is no governmental support.
Games produced in Germany are usually "harmless" children productions and some old school shooters, sure, Germany, Spain and Italy are incredible countries full of culture but game production are not really there and never were.
Russia already has some impressive titles for PC and Consoles like Kings Bounty, Disciples etc
PC is very popular in game market today, don't you realize every major console game is available on PC and there is more MMO titles than ever?
Even Capcom and Square are back on PC.
Steam is a huge sucess.
1-There will be a lot of new and impressive games from Russia, China and Korea and no, they are not "(2th) world countries".
2-The fulture is not Console or PC but multiplataform.
3-Empty maps are easy to do but gamers and developers are not interested on it.
4-You don't know much about the world.
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Def not Korea, see silkroad online for more details.
Is it politically incorrect to say thirth world nowadays? Only one of the countries listed by the OP is in fact a tooth world country. One is even a firth world country, so it would probably be more accurate to not use firth, tooth, or thirth at all, and just say it will come from Earth.
Teiman
There is no real game production in Brazil, small brazilian game companies doesn't have money, experience and there is no governmental support.
Games produced in Germany are usually "harmless" children productions and some old school shooters, sure, Germany, Spain and Italy are incredible countries full of culture but game production are not really there and never were.
Russia already has some impressive titles for PC and Consoles like Kings Bounty, Disciples etc
PC is very popular in game market today, don't you realize every major console game is available on PC and there is more MMO titles than ever?
Even Capcom and Square are back on PC.
Steam is a huge sucess.
1-There will be a lot of new and impressive games from Russia, China and Korea and no, they are not "(2th) world countries".
2-The fulture is not Console or PC but multiplataform.
3-Empty maps are easy to do but gamers and developers are not interested on it.
4-You don't know much about the world.
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Def not Korea, see silkroad online for more details.
Silkroad is an old free game, why you didn't mention AION, Tera, Blade & Soul, Prius, Continent of the Ninth, Huxley?
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