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Faxxer
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I have no clue where this newspaper is from, it 'appears' to be an eastern block country from the old USSR.
What this person says is what conservatives have been saying... it should sadden the left to be suckered, but they just cheer their country as it sinks like a titanic icon.
link and quote...
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/
It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.
True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.
Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.
First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blind the foolish.
Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.
The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.
These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them?
These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.
Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.
So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.
Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.
So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.
The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.
The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.
end quote...
When will the leftists figure out it's all been tried already and doesn't work?
Comments
Marxism might not be the right word for what the US is spiraling down into, out-right socialism fits better. All of the media in the states can find no wrong in our darling new president, except for the "conservative" hardballers, but the major news networks made sure we where all tired of hearing them beat that horse long ago. The unfortunate part is, when someone does come up with a valid point about how this administration is doing something wrong, like say:
The media doesn't even bat an eyelash at any of this, and just continues to sing the praises of Obama. It was the media that got him elected in the first place, I think I almost laughed when I heard that Obama had gotten the popular vote, and almost cried.
Well for those that we inevitable start flaming about how Obama is Christ returned(that won't be a happy day for those people) I and several generations of my family have sworn to potentially die to defend US freedoms(which means we have all been military members, for those that are too much a product of the public school system) and I'm going to use those freedoms to voice my grief over the death of democracy in the USA.
God Bless the USA, because we need it.
You guys always freak out when your candidate doesnt win.. its getting kinda old.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
We had to Put up with it For 8 Years. Yall got a Long time to go.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
By you guys I meant Americans.. Im Canadian, I get to listen to some subset of you guys wank year after year :P
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
PRAVDA as a news source.......?
ROTFLOL, next the far right conservatives in America will be watching TASS for their news......oh, wait, they already do, after the collapse of the Soviet Union it was renamed FOX.
I think Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon, and Reagan just rolled over a couple of times in their graves once they learned that the right wing is now taking PRAVDA seriously, and citing it as a news souce.
{rolls eyes}
Faxxer, it doesn't matter what conservatives have been saying. What you need to get through your skull is that your ideology has been rejected. The conservative dream of having a nation that best resembles a theocracy has been rejected.
It still looks like a theocracy -- all that has changed is the God being worshiped.
Plus I have never met a conservative who dreams of theocracy. Can you show me one who is anyone of import in the history of conservatism?
The only people I know who "dream of theocracy" are the people actively engaged in a Jihad against us -- the ones the left pretends don't exist.
fishermage.blogspot.com
No offensise fisher but it seems like your debating something completly seperate from the point :P
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
I wasn't really debating anything; merely commenting on something absurd someone said
As to the OPs subject matter, nothing new to me.
fishermage.blogspot.com
I notice the classic tactic of try to discredit where it came from rather than address what the content was by some on here.
Perhaps if their precious NYT or CNN had it up on their web site maybe then they'd think it was something... oh wait...nm.
Once again, the simple truth hits right between the eyes for them and they can't handle it.
"your guy lost, get over it..."
"conservatism is rejected..." If you only had even the slightest clue what you were talking about. This one is the real danger in my opinion. You confuse pop culture with ignorance.
Pravda (Russian: ??????, "Truth") was a leading newspaper of the Soviet Union and an official organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party between 1912 and 1991.
The Pravda newspaper was started in 1912 in St.Petersburg. It was converted from a weekly Zvezda. It did not arrive in Moscow until 1918. During the Cold War, Pravda was well known in the West for its pronouncements as the official voice of Soviet Communism. (Similarly Izvestia was the official voice of the Soviet government.)
After the paper was closed down in 1991 by decree of President Yeltsin, many of the staff founded a new paper with the same name, which is now a tabloid-style Russian news source. There is an unrelated Internet-based newspaper, Pravda Online (www.Pravda.ru) run by former Pravda newspaper employees. A number of other newspapers have also been called Pravda, most notably Komsomolskaya Pravda, formerly the official newspaper of the now defunct Komsomol and currently the best-selling tabloid in Russia.
In January 1910 the party's Central Committee had a rare plenary meeting with all party factions represented. A comprehensive agreement to re-unite the party was worked out and tentatively agreed upon. As part of the agreement, Trotsky's Pravda was made a party-financed central organ.
Yea, right, attack the source. When will you guys start citing The National Enquirer, Daily Star, and other supermarket tabloids stories on aliens visiting earth as evidence? I never dreamed that I would see the day when the conservatives of the United States would be granting credibility to a Russian source that translates as "Truth" and citing it to uphold their position. Desperation Samba?
Too funny dude.......
It still looks like a theocracy -- all that has changed is the God being worshiped.
Plus I have never met a conservative who dreams of theocracy. Can you show me one who is anyone of import in the history of conservatism?
The only people I know who "dream of theocracy" are the people actively engaged in a Jihad against us -- the ones the left pretends don't exist.
If you give the ropes to conservatives and let them do as they please without opposition for 1 year, America would be entirely build on christianity.
Which means Creationism taught in school, Hollywood controlled by Christian morals and No more rights for homosexuals.
I found a group on facebook that, in my opinion, sums up Conservatives.
Some three months into the Obama presidency, and we are seeing drastic changes in society, portends of things to come; we see what the liberal mindset, in all it's sickness has done to this country. Even our former president Bush was not enough to satisfy us.
We have watched while liberals try to change the basic foundation of society - marriage - into an anything goes proposition;
We have seen the true face of television media, the Internet, and college campuses - all liberal bastions which we conservatives - traditionalists - are losing ground.
We are tired of being made to feel stupid for believing in and loving God, while being called racists for having suspicion of Islam.
We are tired of it.
Now, it's "our time", president Obama, and all you liberal bleeding-hearts.
It's our time to play hard ball. No longer will you play on our sense of goodness and fairness with this "tolerance" and "diversity" racket.
No longer will you control the filthy "entertainment" in movies and television, constantly moving us towards a moral vacuum.
Now, it's "our time" to get organized on the Internet, our time to take over media and colleges, to bring some decency and sanity back to the USA.
It's our time!
Also Faxxer, you also said Mccain would become President, so i'm sorry to inform you, but it is you who doesn't know what he is talking about.
Sounds like neo-conservatives are upset that people are worshipping Obama and putting him higher than their christian god of the Bible. True conservatism will continue a downward spiral in this country as long as the neo-paranoia reich wing fundamentalist wingnuts keep doing their thing. We didn't have a true conservative in office the last 8 years. Bush was a neo-conservative/anti-constitutional/liberal socialist who was more liberal than many of the former democrats who were presidents. Why are people still in denial thinking he was a real conservative? He might have said a ton of true conservative things but his actions were total opposite. Obama is following the same path but he is a democrat anyway so hes just acting like his party. I'm surprised people didn't uprise and go against Bush when he was doing the opposite of what he said he was going to do 100% of the time.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
It still looks like a theocracy -- all that has changed is the God being worshiped.
Plus I have never met a conservative who dreams of theocracy. Can you show me one who is anyone of import in the history of conservatism?
The only people I know who "dream of theocracy" are the people actively engaged in a Jihad against us -- the ones the left pretends don't exist.
If you give the ropes to conservatives and let them do as they please without opposition for 1 year, America would be entirely build on christianity.
Which means Creationism taught in school, Hollywood controlled by Christian morals and No more rights for homosexuals.
I found a group on facebook that, in my opinion, sums up Conservatives.
Some three months into the Obama presidency, and we are seeing drastic changes in society, portends of things to come; we see what the liberal mindset, in all it's sickness has done to this country. Even our former president Bush was not enough to satisfy us.
We have watched while liberals try to change the basic foundation of society - marriage - into an anything goes proposition;
We have seen the true face of television media, the Internet, and college campuses - all liberal bastions which we conservatives - traditionalists - are losing ground.
We are tired of being made to feel stupid for believing in and loving God, while being called racists for having suspicion of Islam.
We are tired of it.
Now, it's "our time", president Obama, and all you liberal bleeding-hearts.
It's our time to play hard ball. No longer will you play on our sense of goodness and fairness with this "tolerance" and "diversity" racket.
No longer will you control the filthy "entertainment" in movies and television, constantly moving us towards a moral vacuum.
Now, it's "our time" to get organized on the Internet, our time to take over media and colleges, to bring some decency and sanity back to the USA.
It's our time!
Also Faxxer, you also said Mccain would become President, so i'm sorry to inform you, but it is you who doesn't know what he is talking about.
So in other words,m you can't find anyone who dreams of theocracy.
fishermage.blogspot.com
It still looks like a theocracy -- all that has changed is the God being worshiped.
Plus I have never met a conservative who dreams of theocracy. Can you show me one who is anyone of import in the history of conservatism?
The only people I know who "dream of theocracy" are the people actively engaged in a Jihad against us -- the ones the left pretends don't exist.
If you give the ropes to conservatives and let them do as they please without opposition for 1 year, America would be entirely build on christianity.
Which means Creationism taught in school, Hollywood controlled by Christian morals and No more rights for homosexuals.
I found a group on facebook that, in my opinion, sums up Conservatives.
Some three months into the Obama presidency, and we are seeing drastic changes in society, portends of things to come; we see what the liberal mindset, in all it's sickness has done to this country. Even our former president Bush was not enough to satisfy us.
We have watched while liberals try to change the basic foundation of society - marriage - into an anything goes proposition;
We have seen the true face of television media, the Internet, and college campuses - all liberal bastions which we conservatives - traditionalists - are losing ground.
We are tired of being made to feel stupid for believing in and loving God, while being called racists for having suspicion of Islam.
We are tired of it.
Now, it's "our time", president Obama, and all you liberal bleeding-hearts.
It's our time to play hard ball. No longer will you play on our sense of goodness and fairness with this "tolerance" and "diversity" racket.
No longer will you control the filthy "entertainment" in movies and television, constantly moving us towards a moral vacuum.
Now, it's "our time" to get organized on the Internet, our time to take over media and colleges, to bring some decency and sanity back to the USA.
It's our time!
Also Faxxer, you also said Mccain would become President, so i'm sorry to inform you, but it is you who doesn't know what he is talking about.
So in other words,m you can't find anyone who dreams of theocracy.
adultthought.ucsd.edu/Culture_War/The_American_Taliban.html
Pravda (Russian: ??????, "Truth") was a leading newspaper of the Soviet Union and an official organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party between 1912 and 1991.
The Pravda newspaper was started in 1912 in St.Petersburg. It was converted from a weekly Zvezda. It did not arrive in Moscow until 1918. During the Cold War, Pravda was well known in the West for its pronouncements as the official voice of Soviet Communism. (Similarly Izvestia was the official voice of the Soviet government.)
After the paper was closed down in 1991 by decree of President Yeltsin, many of the staff founded a new paper with the same name, which is now a tabloid-style Russian news source. There is an unrelated Internet-based newspaper, Pravda Online (www.Pravda.ru) run by former Pravda newspaper employees. A number of other newspapers have also been called Pravda, most notably Komsomolskaya Pravda, formerly the official newspaper of the now defunct Komsomol and currently the best-selling tabloid in Russia.
In January 1910 the party's Central Committee had a rare plenary meeting with all party factions represented. A comprehensive agreement to re-unite the party was worked out and tentatively agreed upon. As part of the agreement, Trotsky's Pravda was made a party-financed central organ.
Yea, right, attack the source. When will you guys start citing The National Enquirer, Daily Star, and other supermarket tabloids stories on aliens visiting earth as evidence? I never dreamed that I would see the day when the conservatives of the United States would be granting credibility to a Russian source that translates as "Truth" and citing it to uphold their position. Desperation Samba?
Too funny dude.......
even the Nat'l enquirer broke the edwards affair story did it not?
Yet again, you simply don't address the content of the story, but denounce the source....
Try reading the article next time, you might be enlightened some.
Pravda (Russian: ??????, "Truth") was a leading newspaper of the Soviet Union and an official organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party between 1912 and 1991.
The Pravda newspaper was started in 1912 in St.Petersburg. It was converted from a weekly Zvezda. It did not arrive in Moscow until 1918. During the Cold War, Pravda was well known in the West for its pronouncements as the official voice of Soviet Communism. (Similarly Izvestia was the official voice of the Soviet government.)
After the paper was closed down in 1991 by decree of President Yeltsin, many of the staff founded a new paper with the same name, which is now a tabloid-style Russian news source. There is an unrelated Internet-based newspaper, Pravda Online (www.Pravda.ru) run by former Pravda newspaper employees. A number of other newspapers have also been called Pravda, most notably Komsomolskaya Pravda, formerly the official newspaper of the now defunct Komsomol and currently the best-selling tabloid in Russia.
In January 1910 the party's Central Committee had a rare plenary meeting with all party factions represented. A comprehensive agreement to re-unite the party was worked out and tentatively agreed upon. As part of the agreement, Trotsky's Pravda was made a party-financed central organ.
Yea, right, attack the source. When will you guys start citing The National Enquirer, Daily Star, and other supermarket tabloids stories on aliens visiting earth as evidence? I never dreamed that I would see the day when the conservatives of the United States would be granting credibility to a Russian source that translates as "Truth" and citing it to uphold their position. Desperation Samba?
Too funny dude.......
even the Nat'l enquirer broke the edwards affair story did it not?
Yet again, you simply don't address the content of the story, but denounce the source....
Try reading the article next time, you might be enlightened some.
Whatever dude....keep reading PRAVDA. Whatever let's you sleep sound at night.
ROTFLOL!
Discrediting an Opinion article from a website that regular prints such lovely articles as Only eat 2 meals a day and Dog gives birth to mutant creature
Yea... I think he has good reason to discredit your source of information.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
Both of you MIGHT have a case if you didn't discount fox news the exact same way, or some other "conservative source" of news...
in your eyes they're exactly the same, which only shows both of your blind sidedness.
Fox news is really the only one with any credibility at all in my eyes anymore.Even broadcast Fox has taints of liberal bias these days
I have no sympathy for the Republicans. They brought this on themselves by refusing to give up on opposing gay marriage, abortion, trying to teach creationism in schools, and the war on drugs.
They had a choice to make. Fight for economic freedom, or fight for social oppression. They chose social oppression, and lost.
Give me a social liberal that is a free marketeer and I will vote for her. But I'd rather vote for Karl Marx himself than vote for some angry anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-drugs, anti-Darwinism social conservative.
Eh Fox news is attacked because they ARE biased towards conservatives, it's their bread and butter.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A3BD2524FE99BD4D
Also Scubie, that so called "liberal bias" is called reality, you might want to try it sometime.
When I was younger I used to have more liberal views (against death penalty and the like) as you get older your views on what is a sustainable existance change.I have seen too much over 42 years to become liberal.I watch Fox news to get the stories that will never be covered on Broadcast FOX,NBC,MSNBC,CBS,ABC ,CNN,HLN and any others I may be forgetting.Also if your are only getting news info from Liberal media you might as well be looking at the KGB tv station.
Their agenda in the end will do them in in the long run do to freedoms being lost for governments to maintain control over its citizens.
Also if you cant allready see this happening with Obama's control over the Car companies ,banks and such than there is really no help for you ,you are allready a SHEEP.
I have a question for you man. If you dislike, for example, MSNBC for giving only one side of the story, why do you give credit to another news station who also gives only one side of the story? Is it because they tell you what you want to hear? I honestly have a hard time understanding this.
See, myself personally, I watch BBC world news. In my experience with BBC they basically just give a factual account of what event has occurred, and the details surrounding that event. No opinions or slanted views. That's how I like my news, informative with no ideology pushing any one side of the story.
What I get from your post is this: If a news station has liberal bias they are not credible. If another news station has a conservative bias, they're credible.
Stray from your flock a bit man. You'll be better off, and more informed, if you stop towing the party line, and start thinking for yourself.
It still looks like a theocracy -- all that has changed is the God being worshiped.
Plus I have never met a conservative who dreams of theocracy. Can you show me one who is anyone of import in the history of conservatism?
The only people I know who "dream of theocracy" are the people actively engaged in a Jihad against us -- the ones the left pretends don't exist.
If you give the ropes to conservatives and let them do as they please without opposition for 1 year, America would be entirely build on christianity.
Which means Creationism taught in school, Hollywood controlled by Christian morals and No more rights for homosexuals.
I found a group on facebook that, in my opinion, sums up Conservatives.
Some three months into the Obama presidency, and we are seeing drastic changes in society, portends of things to come; we see what the liberal mindset, in all it's sickness has done to this country. Even our former president Bush was not enough to satisfy us.
We have watched while liberals try to change the basic foundation of society - marriage - into an anything goes proposition;
We have seen the true face of television media, the Internet, and college campuses - all liberal bastions which we conservatives - traditionalists - are losing ground.
We are tired of being made to feel stupid for believing in and loving God, while being called racists for having suspicion of Islam.
We are tired of it.
Now, it's "our time", president Obama, and all you liberal bleeding-hearts.
It's our time to play hard ball. No longer will you play on our sense of goodness and fairness with this "tolerance" and "diversity" racket.
No longer will you control the filthy "entertainment" in movies and television, constantly moving us towards a moral vacuum.
Now, it's "our time" to get organized on the Internet, our time to take over media and colleges, to bring some decency and sanity back to the USA.
It's our time!
Also Faxxer, you also said Mccain would become President, so i'm sorry to inform you, but it is you who doesn't know what he is talking about.
So in other words,m you can't find anyone who dreams of theocracy.
adultthought.ucsd.edu/Culture_War/The_American_Taliban.html
Not one of those people are even remotely advocating Theocracy. To call them "American Taliban" is a perfect example of ignoring the enemy all people who favor liberal democracy are defending ourselves against -- A real Jihad against liberal institutions and human rights, that WOULD enslave all to theocracy.
To compare such things to American conservatives shows very nicely the denial that many on the left suffer from. They hate fellow free thinkers who have a difference of opinion, yet ignore people who would slit their throats. Amazing.
fishermage.blogspot.com