this is a clear censorship
Av close every single thread that talk about the rollback and city lose for exile
this thread survived more time
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=192268&page=6
No one is trying to silence you, I've read every thread about it, however having roughly forty active threads on the subject is not necessary at this point.
is more like : STFU
I'm sure this issue has the attention of those who need to know.
so player cant put their input nice plan
So apparently after taking a city, the server is taken down, rolled back around an hour causing our clan to lose a city and several people to lose alot of loot.
This needs to be sorted out, getting a poor review by some site probably dosn't hurt the game all that much, but i know that many people will consider quitting the game after this. Sieges are a core part of this game and aventurine just demonstrated their utter failure in front of everyone.
I'm wondering if anyone knows why the forums mods are closing threads recently that don't break the ToS, any answer is much appreciated.
Just want to see what people think.
Soldiers of Thunderstorm, a Cactus clan, sieged eXile's city on Rubaiyat. CC came down and helped, then took Soldiers of Thunderstorm's city: http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/l...nt=newcity.jpg
About 10-15 seconds later, a message came up saying "server is shutting down." There was no patch/update...about 10 minutes later the servers came back up. There was a short rollback, and Cactus still had their city while eXile's city was still pretty damaged.
Though this is irrelevant to the underlying topic, CC did not ask DUSK for help, and no DUSK guilds were there. The fight was pretty even.
The server did not crash on its own, as there was no lag or desync on the server. There was also no known obvious issue that needed to be fixed right away, and even if there was, surely a dev could've waited a few minutes before taking the server down (there was no patch/update, though).
The question: should Soldiers of Thunderstorm's city be transfered to eXile by Aventurine?
Aventurine does not refund lost mounts or rafts on server crashes, though on a few occasions they have offered to refund lost ships (I believe brigs and higher). Obviously, not getting a city due to the server being shut down is much more significant than losing a mount.
you can find many threads about this issue and seams AV dont like when players ask for a fair game well i hope Av get one thing and that thing is BANKRUPT
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While I generally don't agree with Aventurine's board moderation, it is their board. They can do whatever they want with it. If they treat their players badly, they'll suffer for it, but that's their decision.
~Ripper
Does the rollback happen often or is it very rare ?
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Pretty much whenever the server crashes / goes down.
That's often, by the way.
What this forumfall member named SSguy said sums it up to me, replying a thread complaining about a siege:
Good luck with it, the mods seem to want another chunk of players to quit in frustration because they can't consolidate the threads or leave one open for valid complaints.
first time.
They consolidated a bunch of threads into ONE. There was no need to have a million threads about the server being down.
first time.
I doubt it.
first time.
vs.
The usual rollback is 5 minutes... tough it does not allways effect banks and stats. It effects your personal inventory tough.
Rotahsi:
" That destiny was to gather apostles dedicated to the clubbing of tiny Seal Cubs.
Thus, The Seal Cub Clubbing Club was borne. "
they always roll them back..
i've lost many a things that way.. one time it actually helped though.. dudes ganked me and had my gear.. but crash and rolled back i woke up at my clan stone with all my shit
another time I had been riding a mount but I got off it despawned it and banked it a good 10 minutes earlier..
rolled all the way back to when I had it spawned and i lost the mount.. I guess the internal database or whatever went down before it finally kicked me off
sorry but you probably lost your ore man
From a player - generated FAQ:
The server just crashed without warning, and I was on a mount/boat. Is it gone?
I log in and lo and behold my mount is gone... server rolled back to a time i was still on my mount a good 30 min b4 the server crashed GFG
Pretty lame but whatever thats av for you
yes you fucking BET I am blaming Hyperion.
They know this happends and they can win with much fewer numbers, but they have to go and do this every time. It's fucking pathetic and I hate them. Now I can't play on a saturday evening.
I am going to kill every single Hyperion piece of shit I see.
I am warring them all!
The login server for players is offline. This happened yesterday too. The server stayed up for about 15min more. Then it crashed and there was a big big rollback.
Alone in a world of alliances we ride together in the spirit of unmatched hardcore style PKing.
Insanity. Integrity. Sovereignty.
So, as you can see, I call shenanigans on Javac. It's well known that there are crashes, unexpected/unexplained outages (like the one today) and rollbacks on a pretty frequent basis.
~Ripper
first time.
vs.
The usual rollback is 5 minutes... tough it does not allways effect banks and stats. It effects your personal inventory tough.
Rotahsi:
" That destiny was to gather apostles dedicated to the clubbing of tiny Seal Cubs.
Thus, The Seal Cub Clubbing Club was borne. "
they always roll them back..
i've lost many a things that way.. one time it actually helped though.. dudes ganked me and had my gear.. but crash and rolled back i woke up at my clan stone with all my shit
another time I had been riding a mount but I got off it despawned it and banked it a good 10 minutes earlier..
rolled all the way back to when I had it spawned and i lost the mount.. I guess the internal database or whatever went down before it finally kicked me off
sorry but you probably lost your ore man
From a player - generated FAQ:
The server just crashed without warning, and I was on a mount/boat. Is it gone?
I log in and lo and behold my mount is gone... server rolled back to a time i was still on my mount a good 30 min b4 the server crashed GFG
Pretty lame but whatever thats av for you
yes you fucking BET I am blaming Hyperion.
They know this happends and they can win with much fewer numbers, but they have to go and do this every time. It's fucking pathetic and I hate them. Now I can't play on a saturday evening.
I am going to kill every single Hyperion piece of shit I see.
I am warring them all!
The login server for players is offline. This happened yesterday too. The server stayed up for about 15min more. Then it crashed and there was a big big rollback.
Alone in a world of alliances we ride together in the spirit of unmatched hardcore style PKing.
Insanity. Integrity. Sovereignty.
So, as you can see, I call shenanigans on Javac. It's well known that there are crashes, unexpected/unexplained outages (like the one today) and rollbacks on a pretty frequent basis.
~Ripper
Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*
first time.
I'm confused here - you state that the rollbacks are the first to happen, but there are multiple posts on the Offical DFO forums that indicate that rollbacks happen all the time.
Are all the people ( and the replies ) making those posts lying?
first time.
I'm confused here - you state that the rollbacks are the first to happen, but there are multiple posts on the Offical DFO forums that indicate that rollbacks happen all the time.
Are all the people ( and the replies ) making those posts lying?
He's doing his usual "flame-baiting to get the thread locked" schtick again.
Can't really blame him for resorting to desperate measures with the game being in such a dire situation.
It's a shame. This game is ok, if you see it for what it is - a midevil Counterstrike. It's been released way too soon, and it's not really worth paying for in my view ( I won't be resubscribing, for sure ) .
But........some people will like it, and it's a shame that a reasonable conversation using facts ( like, you know...Tasos's own words, or the Offical Site info ) can't be held due to extremes on both sides - but I'm going to call a spade a spade here, by observation it's 75% the fans of the game that start the trolling, and 25% the game's distractors.
I'm just saying, that's my observations.
Being silenced in Darkfall forums? What's new? In the offopic sections with political talk, the only people allowed to speak and express their opinion were Libertarians and mainly Conservative Republicans. Whenever anyone with a Democratic point of view expresses themself in a similar tone that a conservative does, they get banned/thread locked/deleted ect..
Don't even get me started on the game itself Darkfall is a fail game from head to toe and it has just about everything to do with their inexperienced nasty staff.
KInda ironic that they have a thread about a woman who crashed and due to roadrage she burned to death and the mods allowed everyone to diss the person who died in utterly bannable ways but thats ok! the mayor offense is to complain about the game.
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
Hey this is actually pretty damn cool. It has built in capabilities to access 3D files from the googe 3D archive and render them into your "world". There are a lot of minigames which you can implement or make your own with scripting. If you want, you can just build you place up with built in assets, or make new assets yourself, or get new assets from across the web.
Its a fun community building game
And yes the load times are a drag, but whatever.
Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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first time.
vs.
The usual rollback is 5 minutes... tough it does not allways effect banks and stats. It effects your personal inventory tough.
Rotahsi:
" That destiny was to gather apostles dedicated to the clubbing of tiny Seal Cubs.
Thus, The Seal Cub Clubbing Club was borne. "
they always roll them back..
i've lost many a things that way.. one time it actually helped though.. dudes ganked me and had my gear.. but crash and rolled back i woke up at my clan stone with all my shit
another time I had been riding a mount but I got off it despawned it and banked it a good 10 minutes earlier..
rolled all the way back to when I had it spawned and i lost the mount.. I guess the internal database or whatever went down before it finally kicked me off
sorry but you probably lost your ore man
From a player - generated FAQ:
The server just crashed without warning, and I was on a mount/boat. Is it gone?
I log in and lo and behold my mount is gone... server rolled back to a time i was still on my mount a good 30 min b4 the server crashed GFG
Pretty lame but whatever thats av for you
yes you fucking BET I am blaming Hyperion.
They know this happends and they can win with much fewer numbers, but they have to go and do this every time. It's fucking pathetic and I hate them. Now I can't play on a saturday evening.
I am going to kill every single Hyperion piece of shit I see.
I am warring them all!
The login server for players is offline. This happened yesterday too. The server stayed up for about 15min more. Then it crashed and there was a big big rollback.
Alone in a world of alliances we ride together in the spirit of unmatched hardcore style PKing.
Insanity. Integrity. Sovereignty.
So, as you can see, I call shenanigans on Javac. It's well known that there are crashes, unexpected/unexplained outages (like the one today) and rollbacks on a pretty frequent basis.
~Ripper
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BAHAHAHAHA
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I'm Awesome, Deal With It.
each time the server crash there is around 5 min rollback
BestSigEver :P
As Javac has said this is the first time this has happened so I'm sure it will be fixed soon just like everything else that does not need fixing.
no is not the first time OrcRu got the same problem back in the days when crashes was a daily thing and pass unnoticed
BestSigEver :P
Best description ever! Mid - Evil ... so not totally evil like say DnL but not mildy evil like Auto Assault but Mid-evil.
Well done!
Originally posted by shukes33
Grind is not one of the downfalls of DF it is just a feature.
no is not the first time OrcRu got the same problem back in the days when crashes was a daily thing and pass unnoticed
pretty sure he was using sarcasm there. the clue is in the last half of the sentence
Best description ever! Mid - Evil ... so not totally evil like say DnL but not mildy evil like Auto Assault but Mid-evil.
Well done!
hey, don't drag auto assault in with those two games. auto assault... umm whats the word... oh ya, worked. walking around in the towns was borderline annoying, but i for one, found the car mechanics to be a nice change form standard mmos. plus... i don't think netdevil actually ever lied, or continued to lie, or locked/deleted threads due to legimate complaints
first time.
i do not think 'first time' means what you think it means.
we darkfall players want quality and truth.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
first time.
I'm confused here - you state that the rollbacks are the first to happen, but there are multiple posts on the Offical DFO forums that indicate that rollbacks happen all the time.
Are all the people ( and the replies ) making those posts lying?
fanbois lie. tasos lies. we darkfall players are tired of the lying. hell, first day i played there were TWO rollbacks, each about 30-45 minutes worth.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
At least Aventurine solved the problem that generated the whole damage control mode by forum moderators:
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
But if they're going to silence every kind of valid complaint like in this siege episode, they're in for more player evasion.