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Dyrtt
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I've read all the reviews on the various websites and looked at what other players have said and it appears that people are going nuts over this game. I am currently playing this and EQ2 and I gotta say, EQ2 is really catching my intrest more. Dont get me wrong; I really enjoy WoW but it is certainly not the best mmo I've ever played. In fact it's pretty standard fare. As far as I can tell, the only thing that sets WoW apart is the licence (which I have been a huge fan of for a long time). So, I have to ask: what is it that I'm missing? Why is everyone flipping out over this game?
I'm not trying to troll here. Someone please enlighten me.
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You might be able to answer your own question if you can work out what makes EQ2 more entertaining for you.
Computer games come down to nothing more than individual preference, but it goes without saying that the majority of gamers prefer WoW over EQ2.
If you can't see why that is after reaching, say, level 30 in both games then your personality is more suited to playing EQ2.
I agree that it really comes down to personal preference as far as who likes what. It's just that everyone keeps saying WoW is "revolutionary" and "inovative" but I dont really see anything here that I havent seen elsewhere.
edit: as a side note, i dont think eq2 is at all inovative either.
I don't remember seeing WoW decribed as innovative, but if it has been I'd suggest it would be because of the fact that Blizzard's approach to MMORPG design is innovative. They've removed the boring side of MMOs, almost eliminated the grind (in my, and many other peoples opinion) and polished the fun side. This is something that hasn't been done before, hence "innovative".
I still dont see it. I mean thats pretty vauge. I still have no specific examples of what makes this game different from any other in the genre. Just saying they "eliminated the grind and polshed the fun side" doesnt really provide any specific example of what others are experiencing that I am not.
I'll just let it go though. agree to disagree and all that, right?
You don't see what's so great about World of Warcraft, and I do. You have your opinion, and so do I. I don't "disagree" with you at all.
And I haven't given specific examples of what makes WoW better than EQ2 because that's been done to death. It should be very easy indeed for you to either research the pros and cons of both games on google, or to stick with both for a while and find out for yourself.
Whichever game you choose to stick with, good luck in it.
Darn if I know. I love EQII but have been enjoying WoW on my brothers computer and plan on getting my own account this weekend.
For me WoW is more immediate gratification, while EQII will be of a long term game for me. Just my opinion of course and that is subject to change. I figure WoW will last me about 2 months unless Blizz gets the hero classes real quick. MMORPG PvP can only entertain me for so long before I lapse into a boredom induced coma. Again this is just my opinion and feelings, not slamming the game or the players on either side.
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I actually think this will work against WoW in the long run. EQ2 is going to continue to look state of the art for years to come as people upgrade their machines. On the other hand, we've all pretty much seen what WoW has to offer graphics-wise. Baring a graphics update included in a patch or expansion, it isnt going to get much better. To me graphics dont really matter much though. I like them both just fine but recognize eq2 as being a more graphicly adept piece of software.
ya, I am among those in that huge playerbase. In fact this was the main reason I was attracted to the game in the first place. WoW definitly has a more interesting world. Keep in mind, however, EQ has a huge playerbase as well. These are 2 of the most successfull franchises in pc game history.
There is no doubt that this game is growing on me. after I made the origional post in this thread I started playing the game again with this topic in mind. Here is the conclusion that I came to: The two things that are keeping me from being absolutly nuts about this game are the classes and the community. There are just too few classes and they arent varied enough. However, this reason is secondary to the community. I just cant seem to find a good group. From the day I started (a week and a half ago) every single group have had at least one '1337' jerk in it. EVERY ONE. Dont get me wrong most people are fine. it's just that rare few that are ruining it for me. I havent had that at all in eq2. In fact I have had VERY good experiences grouping in eq2. I think this is the main reason I am leaning towards that game.
hehe, and i said i was done with the topic...
I apreciate everyones input.
There are good and bad people in both communities, personally I think the graphics in WoW are pretty damn spectacular, EQ graphics I find generally dull and pretty damn lifeless.... I have cancelled my EQ2 account for several reasos, not least the fact that I find the game boring, hate the constant zoning and don't like the graphics. I now play WoW and Eve, grouping does have a few draw backs but the same applied to EQ2, although admittedly to a lesser degree, but the great thing about WoW is most quests you can solo (with the exception of some of the Elite quests).
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"Flamers, beware! when you leave this earth, there is a very special place reserved for you down below with romantic bonefires scourching you bones!"
"I have no prejudices, I hate everyone equally regardless of race or religion"
"Been there, done that!"
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"Flamers, beware! when you leave this earth, there is a very special place reserved for you down below with romantic bonefires scourching you bones!"
"I have no prejudices, I hate everyone equally regardless of race or religion"
"Been there, done that!"
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I guess you gotta play EQ2 for yourself to actually decide.
I bought EQ2 at launch, played for 2 weeks, got bored after only reaching a Level 15 Cleric. Don't get me wrong, the game is great, I'm sure if I actually forced myself to keep grinding XP around the SAME AREAS for another month or two, then I would be powerful enough to explore almost all the areas EQ2 has to offer. But I didn't, I was bored of always grinding in Antonica or doing Black Burrow hunts.
WoW, I only played for 4 hours yesterday on my own with my own character cause I just bought it yesterday. But my friend has been playing since launch, I've seen where he's at in only a few days, and you have a lot more freedom than in EQ2.
SOE tried as much as possible to restrict players from going wherever they want cause they were affraid people would get bored too fast that they visited everything. While that might seem like a good idea, I find it more anoying than being restricted to being stuck in the same areas for a long period of time. As a matter a fact, I kept feeling that SOE didn't add enough content in EQ2 that they wanted players to be stuck in the same areas so that whenever they are able to go into a new area, it will feel like there is a lot.
But for WoW, you don't have that feel. You can almost go anywhere (Although some areas are filled with high level creatures), you are more free. And I play MMORPGs and RPGs as much as for the combat & grind as exploration.
And besides, I loved Star Wars Galaxies for the fact there is no loading time for every area you visit. EQ2... you're in 1 part of the town, you go to another section, (Loading), you then head towards the forest area, (Loading), you enter the Dungeon, (Loading), you exit the Dungeon, Zone is full, you're forced to load another zone, go back to town, (Loading), etc...etc... I'm on Cable Modem, but when you're grouped with Dial-Up friends and players and you're forced to wait 2-3 minutes just so they can load the zone, it got frustrating.
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Calling an MMORPG "innovative", "groundbreaking" and "THE NEXT GENERATION!" all seems to be standard fare bullshit if you ask me. However, what really sets warcraft apart from Everquest is perhaps a sense of purpose. When people want to play Wow, they want to become a clan leader of master Peon and have fun playing the little men of the warcraft series. When people want to play everquest, what is it that they want?
So far, I have not seen anything from the Everquest series other than endless (and often pointless) quests for loot and the next level... For me personally, that just doesn't cut it.
It doesnt matter what machine you have with the "graphically advanced" MMORPGS, when you get into situations that have large numbers of ppl / mobs the game will lag like hell, which is not a good thing. Maybe 2 years down the road it will be stable enough for that, but i'd rather have it now than then.. plus blizzard were wise going for a "cartoony" look, if you ask me it doesnt age anywhere near as bad as "realistic" games.
About grouping, probably depends on what server your on. So far everyone i've grouped with has been pretty decent, and i havent seen anyone talking smack in general.. which is suprising, considering its one of the more heavily populated servers.
As for why i like the game, theres a number of reasons... it has the best damn interface of any MMORPG ever (its pretty good as it is, but its completely customizable with XML), a really stable engine, fairly good game balance (other MMORPGs have had extremely bad balance.. take elf archers in Lineage2), a brilliant quest system with quests that are fun a lot of the time, with nice loot to get at the end. Quests have been my main levelling source so far, in fact at level 18 i havent once had to actually "grind" XP, ive just levelled from quests which makes the levelling treadmill so much easier. Basically the game just feels 100x more "polished" than any other MMORPG so far.. it feels like a lot of MMORPGs just drop you in a field, give you a sword and some mobs that give XP and thats it, but for some reason WoW feels more like the quality you'd expect in a single player game.. at least thats my opinion.
That explains it in a nutshell. If you took all of the other people out of WoW it would be probably the greatest single player game i've ever played. As it is, it has full on PVP, pretty good class balance, amazing dungeons, endless amounts of fun and innovative quests, story, wonderful graphics and if they add the features they have promised it will be the best game on the market bar none for me.
On the flip side the community sucked to start with. This seems to be changing. I believe the game attracted more first time MMO players than any other for many years previously and even after a week I have seen a change in peoples behaviour as they settle in to it and discover what multiplayer is all about.
The thing is though, if you like EQ2 then play EQ2...you don't have to play the better game simply because people tell you you're missing out
It still baffles me why people bring up WoW lower end system demands as a negative. The amazing thing is that the world looks amazing, the environments are far more dynamic than any other game out or that is being developed. It does lack the smaller details, things that are simply put in by the use of DirectX 9.0 such as shadow effects and light refraction. But aesthetically the world is more pleasing than any I have seen before and I don't think that the graphics are dated at all, especially when it allows incredibly smooth gameplay even when in extremely large groups. A beautiful game is a beutiful game, whether it melts your graphics card or not...
WOW .. owns.. It took sometime to get past the BS and understand the concept. But once you fo that you will agree its very well put together. I of course had to break the Bank getting a machine to really enjoy the game but it was worth it. I also played eqII it was nice but way tooo much work for me and i need to be able to kill people once in a great while.
This game is awsome and i take my hat off for blizzard for doing something that all these other mmo failed at. Multi-platform MMO ..
Mac and PC .. I love the PC and my friends are mac fanatics .. now they are sucked for once into the same addiction i am
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( Not sure if this is good or not .. but its fun as hell )
Well done Blizzard
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Games Played:DoAC, EQ, CoH, Lineage 2, Planetside, Shadowbane, EQ2, EVE, WoW Beta
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EQ2 looks far from "state of the art" to my eyes. It looks ugly, badly designed and it's inefficiently programmed.
In 5 years time it'll run smoothly on high settings but it'll look like it was designed 5 years ago, while the MMORPGs people will be playing in 5 years will look way, way better.