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SWG totally screwed up game

well now they've gone and done it. the solo group missions that everyone's been doing to make money, well now they have a "set amount" for the size of the group. what that means is when you do a 31000 credit mission, off by yourself, with noone else around, you now get 3000 credits, if you're lucky. what they have done here is make it so "group" fighting isn't necessary. you can get buffed and go to a mission terminal by yourself now and make the 3000 lousy credits you're gonna get paid for doing the same 31000 credit mission in a group! They say its to make the economy fair. well screw swg, i didn't work my butt off to become tkm so they could screw me out of what i worked so hard to get and that is to be self sufficient moneywise. now all tkm's like everyone else will only be able to do missions and nothing else. noone will be able to buy the ores these jerks sell at 30 per ore, or buy mines and power to setup cos we can't afford the maintenance costs to keep them running, lol. SWG IS A BIG JOKE NOW!i figure when enough people leave cos they are bored only doing missions that get you nowhere in game, they will change it back. i for 1 will think 100 times before i buy another screwed up soe game, roflmao. and now noone can afford the 15000 credit buffs cos it'll take 8 hours to get you're money back for the buffs. i drop my pants to you SWG.... so you can kiss my rosy red cheeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do not buy this game, do not play this game and if you're in it now and understand what i'm telling you, i ask you to join me in closing your account so we can send SWG a big message, "change it back or we don't play"! Thanks for joining me in my SWG revolt!

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  • thePuckthePuck Member Posts: 30
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  • 51505150 Member UncommonPosts: 222
    Paragraphs are your friends........

  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621

    Wow, you are obviously not an economics major, so let me spell it out for you. Guess what happens when no one can afford 15k for a buff? Doctors don't make money because no one buys them. In order to sell them they have to lower the price. It all works out in the end, that's the beauty of economy.

  • panachepanache Member UncommonPosts: 397

     Bloody 'ell! Guess people did like the selfish solobility and having indestructible characters while buffed in SWG afterall....

     These players must be like the people who don't go to work in the morning when their car is covered with snow image

    Pan

    Pan

  • kb4blukb4blu Member UncommonPosts: 717

    Sounds to me like that will inprove the game.  The economy was getting out of hand.  Maybe just maybe they will keep on trying to fix SWG.  We can only hope.

     

     

  • wolfsumotowolfsumoto Member Posts: 27

    hey stupid arses, you think people will lower their prices? YOU'RE BUMPIN YOUR HEAD ROFLMAO!

  • lukeborgmanlukeborgman Member UncommonPosts: 36

    I hear ya.  I quit before they pulled that nerf. 

    A "player economy" in an MMORPG is still just part of the game.  Inflation is not fun, but neither is having no way to win.  SOE seems to have real trouble with balancing their precious "player economy" with the fact that it's a game that should be fun.

    Make the SWG economy as much as possilbe like the real world economy and there is no point in playing.  If you enjoy the real world economy, then why play SWG.  Games are a diversion from real life.  If SWG is not more fun than real life, no one will pay real dollars for it.

    It's a balancing act.  Not an easy one, I'm sure.  SOE just seems to have lost the perspective needed to keep implementation of good ideals from being much too little fun in practice.  I'm sure some will enjoy their implementation, but I think there are many, many more who have lost interest because of it.  ...and that's even though they have a very valuable license with a dedicated fan-base. 

     

  • KayZircon82KayZircon82 Member UncommonPosts: 22


    Originally posted by wolfsumoto
    SWG IS A BIG JOKE NOW!

    /Agrees ::::17::

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  • SgtChoiceSgtChoice Member Posts: 15

    image SWG, had enough of it, contantly in the "trying to fix" a screwed up game.
    Shame on you Lucas for allowing such a horrible game to represent your franchise.

  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621


    Originally posted by wolfsumoto
    hey stupid arses, you think people will lower their prices? YOU'RE BUMPIN YOUR HEAD ROFLMAO!
    Riiiight because we all know that Holocrons are still going for 3-5 mil like when they first came out right? and we all know that when you try to sell something for 15k and no one buys it, you raise the price to 20k so when someone does you make more profit. yeah that's what people do....and I'm the stupid arse? ::::12::

  • cdapolitocdapolito Member Posts: 9

    Not only was the solo gorup 'nerf' a start on fixing the economy, but when the CURB (Combat) fix comes through you won't be able to go solo Jantas anymore, you will need a group.  They are just getting us into that mindset early. 

    And yes people will lower their prices, it won't happen overnight. In fact inflation will most likely spike as the crafters panic and try to make every last cred they can.  But they will come to the realization that if they want to make money they will have to settle for less money than they are used to.

    BTW you can still go solo Giant Baz missions on Dath for 12k if you want to continue to ignore the second M in MMORPG

  • wolfsumotowolfsumoto Member Posts: 27

    if they want to "fix" the economy they can start by doing set amounts on what people charge. it dont make sense to pay 15k for buffs that takes 8 hours to get the money back or to pay 30 credits for 1 doggone ore. they are total idiots and they are now "FIRED" everyone of them!!!!

  • wolfsumotowolfsumoto Member Posts: 27

    yes i guess you are lol

  • starman999starman999 Member Posts: 1,232

    Its really funny....

    I like to read what these spoiled players who only played SWG after the crappy buffs and solo groups started post. Its comical because they dont realize that the devs are trying to get the game back to what it was in the beggining.

    I played from day 1 of release and I can tell you it was BETTER period. There was no such thing as a solo group there were just groups. Everybody did their jobs and we all made plenty of money and xp. Most of us mastered our professions long before there were any buffs or 80% comp armor. Not only that but wearing a full set of comp was suicide if you didnt know how to use your specials without just spamming them. THe game actually took some skill. There were no uber templates and all professions were decent and fun.

    Dont start whining about something until you see what it is. The economy inflated because of solo grouping and buffs now it needs to deflate without them. I can honestly say the only way the people who originally played and loved the game will go back is if the game gets back to its roots

    I only hope this is a beginning to that.

     


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  • wolfsumotowolfsumoto Member Posts: 27

    only thing that went down is what people are paid, htf does that help the economy? HUH?

  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526



    Originally posted by panache

     Bloody 'ell! Guess people did like the selfish solobility and having indestructible characters while buffed in SWG afterall....
     These players must be like the people who don't go to work in the morning when their car is covered with snow image

    Pan


    Its still SOE's fault. They allowed "god-mode" to be implemented in the first place. So of course people will get upset if they're changed or reduced. You get used to playing a certain way and then SOE pulls the rug out from under you.

    This game is such a joke now it isnt funny. And whats even funnier is reading their forums. All thats left now are hardcore fanboys that instantly flame any post the remotely hints at criticism. The game is dying, thousands of players are leaving and they say everything is fine lol. Denial is such an ugly thing.

     

  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526



    Originally posted by wolfsumoto

    if they want to "fix" the economy they can start by doing set amounts on what people charge. it dont make sense to pay 15k for buffs that takes 8 hours to get the money back or to pay 30 credits for 1 doggone ore. they are total idiots and they are now "FIRED" everyone of them!!!!



    I was a master doc and I charged what I needed to make a profit. For some reason, combat types always thought I must be rich. I was rich, but it certainly didnt come from buffing players. In fact after maybe two weeks of doing it I stopped because I realized I could make more hunting loot or selling resources.

    I used to charge 6k for buffs. However, for some reason a bidding war erupted over a few ubber spawns of avian meat. After being forced to spend 100-200cpu for some decent stuff, I HAD to raise my buff prices as did all docs. Then bovoli came into the picture. Nobody would get into my line if my buffs were "only" 2300 when the doc next to me was spamming "2600 buff here" So then Im forced to buy bivoli which is very expensive and doesnt last long.

    My costs per person after buying meats and bivoli was 8k per, sometimes 9k per. So for me to charge only 12k was really pathetic in my opinion. Combat types really piss me off when they say "man you must be rich" when Im making a lousy 3k profit from him. In an hr of buffing I might make a profit of 80-120k. I can do a lot better than that if Im hunting for loot or running regular missions on yavin (klikniks - 13k) in the same amount of time.

    If combat types want cheaper Buffs, then they should sell meats cheaper as well. Not that I care anymore, I quit this lousy game

  • panachepanache Member UncommonPosts: 397



    Originally posted by admriker444


    Originally posted by panache

     Bloody 'ell! Guess people did like the selfish solobility and having indestructible characters while buffed in SWG afterall....

     These players must be like the people who don't go to work in the morning when their car is covered with snow image


    Pan



    Its still SOE's fault. They allowed "god-mode" to be implemented in the first place. So of course people will get upset if they're changed or reduced. You get used to playing a certain way and then SOE pulls the rug out from under you.

    This game is such a joke now it isnt funny. And whats even funnier is reading their forums. All thats left now are hardcore fanboys that instantly flame any post the remotely hints at criticism. The game is dying, thousands of players are leaving and they say everything is fine lol. Denial is such an ugly thing.

     

     Loved the phrase "God-mode" image Riker think it's the first time i have heard it but sums it up perfectly. God-mode i guess also fueled the holo grind with players mastering combat professions in a week.

     I just wish i was a bloody yank and able to play WoW....anybody in California fancy putting up a brit, wife and his kid??? image 

    Pan

    Pan

  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526

    I tell ya Pan, its like night and day comparing WoW to SWG. I was reading their forums the other day and there was a flamewar going on over how pointless SWG was. The discussion touched on how there was plenty to do in SWG, but one person pointed out how that didnt matter because it was still pointless. Fishing was mentioned as something added in SWG but really a waste. Of course plenty of fanboys flamed in anger because fishing was "great" in SWG and they loved having fish on display in their house. The posting went on about how they had fishing contests and prizes for the best ones lol.

    That right there shows ya the difference. In SWG, you have to create your own pathetic content. In WoW its already there for ya and fishing is far from pointless. Most of my armor I got from fishing. Half my credits are profits from fishing. I heal myself after a battle with the fish that I cooked. Such a relief playing a game where something as simple as fishing can be so beneficial.

    Its really sad reading the next pointless publish 11.3 swg is doing. They're adding new loot, or in other words pointless time sink items. Its nothing more than additional wall mounts for display in players already full houses of junk. Players get to spend time collecting broken junk and getting it repaired or turning it into posters, woopie. And the funny part is when someone mentioned how dumb was it that SOE was doing this instead of fixing the gungan sacred place missions (broken since launch), he got massively flamed by fanboys who stated that they LOVED the junk loot, couldnt wait to start collecting it, and didnt care about some dumb old gungans working LOL.

    Thats the mentality over there now. At least when I was playing, there were complaints about stuff not getting fixed. Now there are idtiot posts about who has th best fish and excitement over junk loot. It would be different if the game was balanced and all the min quests actually worked and had decent rewards. Then additions like this would be something nice to do in your spare time. Instead of using dev manpower to get the combat revamp done quicker (which i doubt is even getting done), they use those precious man hours adding storage to bookcases and now posters. So sad...

    ps. Im on alleria server

    Thunderbolt

  • MotorheadMotorhead Member UncommonPosts: 1,193

    I've read about the 'cool new loot' TH was bragging out.  Most of it looks like more utter junk.

    So sad indeed....

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  • panachepanache Member UncommonPosts: 397



    Originally posted by admriker444

    I tell ya Pan, its like night and day comparing WoW to SWG. I was reading their forums the other day and there was a flamewar going on over how pointless SWG was. The discussion touched on how there was plenty to do in SWG, but one person pointed out how that didnt matter because it was still pointless. Fishing was mentioned as something added in SWG but really a waste. Of course plenty of fanboys flamed in anger because fishing was "great" in SWG and they loved having fish on display in their house. The posting went on about how they had fishing contests and prizes for the best ones lol.
    That right there shows ya the difference. In SWG, you have to create your own pathetic content. In WoW its already there for ya and fishing is far from pointless. Most of my armor I got from fishing. Half my credits are profits from fishing. I heal myself after a battle with the fish that I cooked. Such a relief playing a game where something as simple as fishing can be so beneficial.
    Its really sad reading the next pointless publish 11.3 swg is doing. They're adding new loot, or in other words pointless time sink items. Its nothing more than additional wall mounts for display in players already full houses of junk. Players get to spend time collecting broken junk and getting it repaired or turning it into posters, woopie. And the funny part is when someone mentioned how dumb was it that SOE was doing this instead of fixing the gungan sacred place missions (broken since launch), he got massively flamed by fanboys who stated that they LOVED the junk loot, couldnt wait to start collecting it, and didnt care about some dumb old gungans working LOL.
    Thats the mentality over there now. At least when I was playing, there were complaints about stuff not getting fixed. Now there are idtiot posts about who has th best fish and excitement over junk loot. It would be different if the game was balanced and all the min quests actually worked and had decent rewards. Then additions like this would be something nice to do in your spare time. Instead of using dev manpower to get the combat revamp done quicker (which i doubt is even getting done), they use those precious man hours adding storage to bookcases and now posters. So sad...
    ps. Im on alleria server
    Thunderbolt



              Well i'm just about to remove SWG from my hard drive and still no offer of a home in sunny Cali' Looks like i'm bloody waiting for the Euro release of WoW image

    Pan

    Pan

  • wolfsumotowolfsumoto Member Posts: 27

    you're exactly right, as i didn't play from the beginning. in fact, i was getting ready to quit when one of my guild mates showed me how to make money. this wasn't 3 months ago, so of course i got upset when they took it away! and thousands are leaving becos others just are not dropping their prices. hopefully SOE is done with games and i do hope this finishes them!

  • RavenStJRavenStJ Member Posts: 309

    its about about time they started to address the economy issues... now fix the other crap

  • diegofrgcdiegofrgc Member Posts: 451

    you should go to the "Stop SOE from ruining SWG" thread"

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384


    Originally posted by wolfsumoto
    hey stupid arses, you think people will lower their prices? YOU'RE BUMPIN YOUR HEAD ROFLMAO!

    they will if no one can afford them anymore

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

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