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Billius8
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Once in awhile a MMORPG becomes ravingly popular, but appears to lack the graphics to justify this (i.e., Ultima Online and its retarded pre-Diablo, pre-1994 graphics style comes to mind as one example). WOW seems to have fairly pleasing graphics.... for 2001 standards, yet is the most popular game on this website and appears to even challenge EQ2. They say WOW doesn't have the grind of EQ2, which makes me want to consider it, but I also wonder if folks hit the endgame too quickly and run out of things to explore.
Can someone tell me in detail what makes WOW this awesome game? I may buy it, if convinced.
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Please read some review or read the threads in this forum? This topic has been posted a thousand times.. I answered to one 2 days ago.
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First off WoW and EQ2 shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. I bought them both and one does not compare to the other in any way. WoW is a blizzard fans wet dream to state it simply. The world is so in depth and creative. Yes the level grind is a bit quicker it seems but, that's not to say that it's fast by any means. The first 20 levels seem to rocket on by however - I think this is due to such awesome gameplay you just don't realise how fast time flies.
Edit: The tradeskill system is very nice and intuitive and although it seems to level up fast, that's only during the first 100 skill points I'd say (out of 300). I've been playing hardcore ever since the game was released and my Char is still only 28 - I love the Talent system as well. You can customize your char so that his skills are different from others of your class. The graphics are not the best but, they are great, unlike sony who overconcentrated on graphics - Blizzard concentrated on the fun factor. This game is a blast.
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Thanks for the feedback. Seriously thinking about switching from EQ2 to WOW. I want the fun factor and am done with endless grinds and level treadmills. Plus I like the idea that you can start in different cities depending upon race and not the artifical two-city sandbox that Sony has created.
If you switch just remember it may seem easy at first... give it 15 lvls or so and I all but, promise you will NEVER look back at ANY mmorpg (especially overquest2 - why do people keep comparing overquest2 to WoW - WoW is a first class top notch game the other.. waste of $50...
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I myself started off playing EQ1, been playing for about 4 ish years, so you could say i was kinda hooked
. I brought Eq2 great game, gotta hand it to em on that, but ive not got that omg i gotta get on and play all the time bug that i had with eq1. Personally im hoping that WoW gives me that bug again, i hope the euro final beta starts soon 
You guys are telling there are other MMORPGs other than World of Warcraft?
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"You guys are telling there are other MMORPGs other than World of Warcraft?
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No, It's a LIE!!
There are no other mooooorp games!
As said before me, you acnnot compare any games at all with eachother realy.
What is good and what is bad is all a matter of taste.
But..... if ya like something else than WoW better, you have bad taste. Yeaps, thats it... all and all.
I hope WoW will be the one that makes me not wanna go bck to Asherons Call 1. Wich so far has been the best one acording to me. Now there ya had content. Monthley uppdates driving a active story forward. Administrators took the roles as evil or good in-game-characters, batteling with powers so great it would only take a look to incinerate you.
In AC you where a part of something... well atleast the first 2 years or so. Then it grew a bit thin.
Awell even with the new grapix uppgrade (coming next year and wich I have seen nothing great from) I think AC1 could be tedious to go back too.
WoW will rock cause it must, or I wont know what to do!
Yamoto Ronin of AC1 / HG
Thrag Skinnknutte/Brum Skogstokig of DAoC / Percival / HF
Crouching Lemur of FFXI
Yamoto Ronin of AC1 / HG
Thrag Skinnknutte/Brum Skogstokig of DAoC / Percival / HF
Crouching Lemur of FFXI
You just answered your own question.
WoW doesn't have the grind factor that EQ2 has. In WoW, if you end up going around to grind alone or in group, since the game is still new, you're always bound to see someone yell: "Does anyone want to do (insert quest name) with me?" or "LFG for (insert quest name)!" then you end up joining them, finishing the quest together, get huge ammounts of XP and a nice quest reward in the end.
EQ2 sorta has the same thing, but from what I've seen has less quest than WoW.
Actually, now that I think of it, I quit EQ2 as a Level 15 Priest. I did a few quests but I still grinded from Level 13 to 15 with minimal amounts of quests. WoW i'm a Level 14 Priest, and I never grinded... I just did quest after quest, and they aren't boring! And if you're sick of doing quests to gain levels, then just grind. There are people that want to grind, and you never know, you might meet people that want to grind and it's an area where you have a quest. And you can always ask them to help you with your quest and they lose nothing cause there's always tones of creatures to kill to gain XP anyways.
And the graphics are definatly top notch. The characters may look out of date because of their cartoony look. But believe me, you end up loving them as you play the game more and more. Heck, I find their movement and animations a lot more realistic than in EQ2. The way they walk, attack, cast spells... I think Blizzard concentrated more on making cartoony characters move perfectly and smoothly rather than concentrate just on their looks, even if their looks are still top-notch. heck if they went to the point to animating female character's boobs to bounce up and down when they jump or hop, it shows they put a lot of work!
But it's the landscapes that are simply amazing. EQ2 has great graphics, but it's nothing special. It looks like a fantasy medieval world. WoW's landscapes are out of this world!!! When you're an undead, you're in this destroyed dark gothic world with tombstones everywhere, broken houses and it really looks like a world undead would live in. You play as a Night-elf you have never-seen forestry with plants invented through the minds of the Blizzard designers. But of course if you play a Human or Dwarf... you will see landscapes just like in EQ2 cause it represents the standard medieval/fantasy kind of world we've all seen in all kind of MMORPGs. That's why you at least have to try the other races just to see the surprises that are awaiting you.
if not for the graphics, at least for the gameplay. The game is very well balanced. Blizzard fixes bugs as soon as possible if they are discovered. At first I was going to skip over this game cause I thought they could never make a well balanced game like they've always did with Diablo 2, Warcraft 2-3 and Starcraft... I was so wrong! They are doing the exact same thing as with their previous games!
That's Blizzard for you. You gotta see it to believe me.
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Just started playing a Tauren recently and the storyline is fantastic. The Tauren are a tribal race that is the equivatent of an honorable American Indian tribe a couple hundred years ago.
I like the idea of having 6 separating training grounds for the 8 races (gnome/dwarf and orc/troll use the same training grounds). You have to at least play 2 characters, one alliance and one horde to see all the different cities and terrain. Plus each has their own separate quests so rarely are their duplicate quests (not sure about Ratchet and Booty Bay which are neutral towns).
I'm an ex-EQ1 player, played on and off for about 2 years. I'm a casual player so playing EQ was a mix of fun and work, precisely the reason of why it was on and off.
I will tell one thing that EQ2 players know but will never admit to....... IMO, WoW is more like EQ1 than EQ2 will ever be. Don't get me wrong, WoW as you mentioned doesn't have the same stupid grind, corpse runs, death system, but it does have the best of what EQ1 had to offer. For starters Racial Towns/Areas, diversity in content, diversity in tactics (each class and sometimes within each class). I don't play EQ2, but merely reading from good sources it was easy to detect they have removed everything I liked about EQ1 (and I was waiting for EQ2 not Wow):
It may not seem a lot to you but those are the things I liked the most about EQ1. On the other hand, Wow allows you to do all of that. I admit kiting is not 100% like in EQ1 but it is still doable. Racial town and places are a blast, you play as a dwarf or gnome is totally diff than playing as a human for instance.
I could go on and on, on the goods (graphics are great, art is ever better) but I will just mention the only thing I really don't like about Wow:
Character customization, I think if they had done a better job on this item, Wow would have been perfect to me. Char customization is really poor.
BTW, to be more precise: (the best of)EQ1+(the best of)DAoC+better graphics+Warcraft Art=WoW.
Since we're kind of taking this route, I'll put in my thoughts I guess, as dangeerous as they may be.
First off, I love EQ2. THat is the game I am playing. However, these are the things that wow does that I absolutely wish EQ2 did.
WoW is a cinch to get into. You feel right at home with the controls and commands the moment you step into the game. When you type "lol" or emote something of that sorts, the players actually LAUGH instead of motioning a laugh. When you talk to each other the players move their hands and make gestures that loosely relate to what you're saying. When you cast a spell on something that is walking away from you, it will still go off no matter how far it is! I love this! I cannot ever begin to count how many times i have tried to cast on EQ and have to do it 5 or 6 times because it is walking away and keeps stepping out of range before my spell goes off. Dead player bodies bob in the water, which I find hilarious. The game runs super smooth and can get great FPS on nearly any system. It has done an excellent job at keeping the warcraft 3 feel as far as the world is concerned. It does feel like you are in the world of warcraft. Hands down an excellent game.
Granted I only got into level 10 in open beta so I never really got to "start" playing the game since everything starts at 10, but it is a great game. Those are the things that they do that I love, that EQ2 regrettably does not do. Except for the feeling like warcraft part. It would make no sense for EQ2 to feel like being in a warcraft game
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World of Warcraft is a fun game. It has some minor issues, but what game doesn't? It is one of the best MMORPGs I have yet to play. I have played EQ, DAoC, FFXI, CoH and EQ2 and it is on par with if not above the forementioned. If anyone were to ask my opinion and advice on if they should buy and play the game, I would have to give a resounding YES.
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I honestly don't see any point of writing stuff on mmorpg.com forums if we can't talk about and/or compare the top MMORPGs of the moment.
BTW, I can relate to what you've said about Warcraft and EQ. I for one, prefer the race selection of EQ, I just like Dark Elves, High Elves, Wood Elves, Humans, Iksars... But I pretty much had with WoW the same feeling I had when I first played EQ1.
Who said you weren't allowed too? What gets the posts closed is when people start to disrespect each other and resort to name calling. You see 99% of WoW vS EQ2 posts locked. I see us having to lock 99% of WoW Vs EQ2 posts because they loose all form of respect and maturity by the 4th page. Very rarely does a WoW Vs EQ2 topic stay open. They do...but they're rare.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Who said you weren't allowed too? What gets the posts closed is when people start to disrespect each other and resort to name calling. You see 99% of WoW vS EQ2 posts locked. I see us having to lock 99% of WoW Vs EQ2 posts because they loose all form of respect and maturity by the 4th page. Very rarely does a WoW Vs EQ2 topic stay open. They do...but they're rare.
I bet WoW could lock a post better than EQ2 could! Just kidding, I am sorry.
Anyway, this game is pretty much your run-pf-the-mill MMORPG. If you liked the way EQ did things, you will most likely enjoy the game. It is more user-friendly than a lot of games around, in my opinion.
The races and classes are great. Customization isn't on par with other games, but it is still there. The graphics are nice, the quest system is good. Kind of slow up until level 15 or so. I would give this game maybe a 6 or 6.5 out of 10 at this moment in time.
That's pretty good for a game that just released, too. And there is no way but up for WoW. Or atleast, that's what I personally think.
Who said you weren't allowed too? What gets the posts closed is when people start to disrespect each other and resort to name calling. You see 99% of WoW vS EQ2 posts locked. I see us having to lock 99% of WoW Vs EQ2 posts because they loose all form of respect and maturity by the 4th page. Very rarely does a WoW Vs EQ2 topic stay open. They do...but they're rare.
Then I apologize, since I really try not to read many of the aforementioned (locked) threads, because of their content
lol i did notice this was a "concealed" WOW vs EQ2 thread...by the third post
That's probably why it hadn't turned ugly yet lol
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Who said you weren't allowed too? What gets the posts closed is when people start to disrespect each other and resort to name calling. You see 99% of WoW vS EQ2 posts locked. I see us having to lock 99% of WoW Vs EQ2 posts because they loose all form of respect and maturity by the 4th page. Very rarely does a WoW Vs EQ2 topic stay open. They do...but they're rare.
I'm glad you finally cleared that up.
So now could you explain exactly why
THIS THREAD was locked?
I addressed every one of Jackdogs posts with respect (despite his obvious contempt for my opinions) and yet you locked the thread just as I posted two videos comparing the graphics of the two games.
Surely it would have made sense to let people post their comparisons of the videos?
I have !!!, but the ero final beta hasnt opened yet so im kinda sitting here refreshing the wow site in the hoe that they will tell us all when it is going to start.