whose star wars lore? Last I checked this was called "The Old Republic" As Bioware is the leading source on "The old Republic" cannon I'd say they get to make the call. Assuming it is based in this canon which would be the correct assumption we would take precedents from the first two games. I believe animals could kick your Jedi's ass if you weren't careful. I also believe troopers could kicks your ass so could wookies so on and so forth. The universe is balanced.
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
tbf tho Exar kun is reguared as being 1 of the most powerfull and dangerous sith lords to have ever lived
whose star wars lore? Last I checked this was called "The Old Republic" As Bioware is the leading source on "The old Republic" cannon I'd say they get to make the call. Assuming it is based in this canon which would be the correct assumption we would take precedents from the first two games. I believe animals could kick your Jedi's ass if you weren't careful. I also believe troopers could kicks your ass so could wookies so on and so forth. The universe is balanced.
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
Han solo is a smuggler. Han solo is also the Fonz of his era. Do you sir presume to insult the Fonz reincarnate? Good luck
On a serious note I understand that the book placed Exar Kun in a position of extreme power, so did the game ie Revan and Malak though not on the level that your talking about, if the game was based on the pure version of the books it would be wildly unbalanced. Star wars just like anything else is open to interpretation it was interpreted a certain way for kotor 1 and kotor 2 and I believe tor will follow suit.
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero Originally posted by SonikFlash whose star wars lore? Last I checked this was called "The Old Republic" As Bioware is the leading source on "The old Republic" cannon I'd say they get to make the call. Assuming it is based in this canon which would be the correct assumption we would take precedents from the first two games. I believe animals could kick your Jedi's ass if you weren't careful. I also believe troopers could kicks your ass so could wookies so on and so forth. The universe is balanced.
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
Yeah man, that's exactly what i'm talking about. And Exar was a Sith lord...
whose star wars lore? Last I checked this was called "The Old Republic" As Bioware is the leading source on "The old Republic" cannon I'd say they get to make the call. Assuming it is based in this canon which would be the correct assumption we would take precedents from the first two games. I believe animals could kick your Jedi's ass if you weren't careful. I also believe troopers could kicks your ass so could wookies so on and so forth. The universe is balanced.
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
You're not exactly talking about a regular jedi there, are you?
We've often seen jedi get downed by a single shot with a blaster; not every jedi will be able to block every blaster shot every time; or dodge every grenade/flamethrower aimed at them.
You won't get to play Luke, or Vader. You will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Jedi/Sith and I will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Trooper, and as has already been said, regular troopers can kill regular jedis/sith.
It will be very funny though; because I'm 96% sure that people will roll a Sith under the misconception that they will be overpowered.
On launch day, I will sense a great disturbance in the force, as if a single Sith voice cried out 'wtf', and was suddenly silenced.
By mah gun.
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Originally posted by SonikFlash Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero
Originally posted by SonikFlash whose star wars lore? Last I checked this was called "The Old Republic" As Bioware is the leading source on "The old Republic" cannon I'd say they get to make the call. Assuming it is based in this canon which would be the correct assumption we would take precedents from the first two games. I believe animals could kick your Jedi's ass if you weren't careful. I also believe troopers could kicks your ass so could wookies so on and so forth. The universe is balanced.
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers. Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
Han solo is a smuggler. Han solo is also the Fonz of his era. Do you sir presume to insult the Fonz reincarnate? Good luck
On a serious note I understand that the book placed Exar Kun in a position of extreme power, so did the game ie Revan and Malak though not on the level that your talking about, if the game was based on the pure version of the books it would be wildly unbalanced. Star wars just like anything else is open to interpretation it was interpreted a certain way for kotor 1 and kotor 2 and I believe tor will follow suit.
In KoTOR 2 it was said that Darth Nihilus could destroy planets (and correct me if I'm wrong, he killed the whole jedi order, or perhaps some of the most powerful masters)... He was defeated then by protogonist...
whose star wars lore? Last I checked this was called "The Old Republic" As Bioware is the leading source on "The old Republic" cannon I'd say they get to make the call. Assuming it is based in this canon which would be the correct assumption we would take precedents from the first two games. I believe animals could kick your Jedi's ass if you weren't careful. I also believe troopers could kicks your ass so could wookies so on and so forth. The universe is balanced.
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
You're not exactly talking about a regular jedi there, are you?
We've often seen jedi get downed by a single shot with a blaster; not every jedi will be able to block every blaster shot every time; or dodge every grenade/flamethrower aimed at them.
You won't get to play Luke, or Vader. You will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Jedi/Sith and I will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Trooper, and as has already been said, regular troopers can kill regular jedis/sith.
It will be very funny though; because I'm 96% sure that people will roll a Sith under the misconception that they will be overpowered.
On launch day, I will sense a great disturbance in the force, as if a single Sith voice cried out 'wtf', and was suddenly silenced.
Originally posted by SonikFlash whose star wars lore? Last I checked this was called "The Old Republic" As Bioware is the leading source on "The old Republic" cannon I'd say they get to make the call. Assuming it is based in this canon which would be the correct assumption we would take precedents from the first two games. I believe animals could kick your Jedi's ass if you weren't careful. I also believe troopers could kicks your ass so could wookies so on and so forth. The universe is balanced.
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers. Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
You're not exactly talking about a regular jedi there, are you? We've often seen jedi get downed by a single shot with a blaster; not every jedi will be able to block every blaster shot every time; or dodge every grenade/flamethrower aimed at them. You won't get to play Luke, or Vader. You will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Jedi/Sith and I will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Trooper, and as has already been said, regular troopers can kill regular jedis/sith. It will be very funny though; because I'm 96% sure that people will roll a Sith under the misconception that they will be overpowered. On launch day, I will sense a great disturbance in the force, as if a single Sith voice cried out 'wtf', and was suddenly silenced. By mah gun.
Man regular jedis started their training from childhood (6-8 years). 13-14 years jedi-to-be was a very tough opponent even for best commandos. To become a jedi knight padawan had to perform something outstanding. And I mean really outstanding not just to help an old lady to cross the street... And then after years, and teaching lot of Jedi Knights he could become a jedi master...
Originally posted by Kshahdoo Man regular jedis started their training from childhood (6-8 years). 13-14 years jedi-to-be was a very tough opponent even for best commandos. To become a jedi knight padawan had to perform something outstanding. And I mean really outstanding not just to help an old lady to cross the street...
You realise that you just completely set yourself up for a joke aimed at what the average age of the jedi player will be in TOR?
I'll restrain myself from making it; it's like shooting jedi in a barrel.
You see, training is all well and good, and to be honest I'm hoping that jedi/sith are tough opponents, because everyone likes a challenge but well .. I have this 3ft long rifle, and I am going to shoot sith in the face with it. You see my dilemma.
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Originally posted by hanshotfirst Originally posted by Kshahdoo Han Solo was never fighting siths/jedis. Or he would be finished pretty soon...
The plural of Jedi is Jedi. The plural of Sith is Sith. If you're going to take a stand for the authenticity of lore, be a good nerd and at least learn how to spell what you're championing.
in Russian it's different. And I know my English sucks - you said nothing new to me...
Originally posted by Ilvaldyr Originally posted by Kshahdoo Man regular jedis started their training from childhood (6-8 years). 13-14 years jedi-to-be was a very tough opponent even for best commandos. To become a jedi knight padawan had to perform something outstanding. And I mean really outstanding not just to help an old lady to cross the street...
You realise that you just completely set yourself up for a joke aimed at what the average age of the jedi player will be in TOR? I'll restrain myself from making it; it's like shooting jedi in a barrel. You see, training is all well and good, and to be honest I'm hoping that jedi/sith are tough opponents, because everyone likes a challenge but well .. I have this 3ft long rifle, and I am going to shoot sith in the face with it. You see my dilemma.
Yeah sure you have the right. But if i'd be a real sith i redirect your shot right in your left eye... Heh looks like they won't allow me to do this...
Man regular jedis started their training from childhood (6-8 years). 13-14 years jedi-to-be was a very tough opponent even for best commandos. To become a jedi knight padawan had to perform something outstanding. And I mean really outstanding not just to help an old lady to cross the street...
You realise that you just completely set yourself up for a joke aimed at what the average age of the jedi player will be in TOR?
I'll restrain myself from making it; it's like shooting jedi in a barrel.
You see, training is all well and good, and to be honest I'm hoping that jedi/sith are tough opponents, because everyone likes a challenge but well .. I have this 3ft long rifle, and I am going to shoot sith in the face with it. You see my dilemma.
Yeah sure you have the right. But if i'd be a real sith i redirect your shot right in your left eye... Heh looks like they won't allow me to do this...
That's what the armoured helmet is for! .. shame you didn't notice the flash-bang grenade though.
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Heh, nice. I'm starting to wonder if choosing a sith/jedi will be detrimental to a player in PVP..
I don't know about you, but screw the Bounty Hunters and whatever else the empire classes might be, I'm aiming straight for the emo bugger in the black dress.
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Originally posted by Kshahdoo Han Solo was never fighting siths/jedis. Or he would be finished pretty soon...
The plural of Jedi is Jedi. The plural of Sith is Sith. If you're going to take a stand for the authenticity of lore, be a good nerd and at least learn how to spell what you're championing.
in Russian it's different. And I know my English sucks - you said nothing new to me...
Sure it was. Lucas films to SW world are what Holiwood blockbasters to real life... But the funniest thing though is Lucas films gave SW World its birth...
Sure it was. Lucas films to SW world are what Holiwood blockbasters to real life... But the funniest thing though is Lucas films gave SW World its birth...
You lost me bro. Are you suggesting we should disregard the movies as Star Wars lore?
Sure it was. Lucas films to SW world are what Holiwood blockbasters to real life... But the funniest thing though is Lucas films gave SW World its birth...
You lost me bro. Are you suggesting we should disregard the movies as Star Wars lore?
even if force users are more elite they will be made equal to others obviously
for people who are saying about all these sith lords in hte old republic, FYI you can't play those well maybe at level 220 but then you wont be fighting level 5's anyway
Just like any mmo based on a standing title e.g. lord of the rings online. You can't be stronger then gandalf or it would sort of be stupid why tolkien didnt write you into the books
Aside from the blade of another lightsaber, there were rare materials that could withstand a lightsaber blade, but with varying degrees of success:
* Cortosis, although a rare and expensive metal, was a common defense against lightsabers. One of the reasons it was so expensive was the need to refine it. Pure, unrefined, Cortosis ore was, for unexplained reasons, ionized and anyone who touched it would be killed instantly. There were three known methods of forging cortosis armor and weapons, each with varying effects:
Shadday Potkin duels Darth Vader using a Sword of cortosis weave.
The first method was to make the armor or weapon with a cortosis weave, which utilized the ore's primary elements. When contacted by a lightsaber's blade, the cortosis fibers that were worked into the metal caused a surge that shorted out the energy blade. The lightsaber could be reactivated immediately, but it gave the opponent the momentary upper hand.
The most common and inexpensive method employed during the Jedi Civil War was the use of a variant cortosis alloy that resisted the lightsaber blade itself, although it did not cause the lightsaber to deactivate. This enabled troops to fight Jedi or Sith blade-to-blade.
The rarest type of cortosis came in the form of a refined metal with all the impure elements removed. Thus purified, there were no "weaker" metals for the lightsaber to damage, and unique conducting elements remained to short out the energy blade. This refined alloy, nicknamed a cortosis shield was most often employed as armor.
* Lightfoil were small and elegant energy swords based upon lightsabers. They were popular among certain nobles of the Tapani sector, especially those that called themselves "saber rakes". Lightfoils were weaker than authentic lightsabers due to the poor quality focusing crystals used in their manufacture and the relatively low level of craftsmanship compared to Jedi artisans. They did not require any connection to the Force to create, and were fully usable by non-Force sensitives.
* Phrik, was a rare metallic compound that could withstand a lightsaber blade, although unlike the aforementioned metal, Phrik did not possess the ability to cause the blade to short out. Phrik was most notably used in the construction of the electrostaffs wielded by General Grievous's MagnaGuards. Other notable uses of Phrik included elements of Palpatine's lightsaber and Dark Trooper armor.
* Darkswords were an ancient type of sword made from a special material that could parry lightsabers. Unlike cortosis, this material did not possess the ability to temporarily deactivate a lightsaber blade it made contact with.
A Jedi uses his lightsaber against a Vaklu soldier's cortosis alloy vibrosword.
* Armorweave was a cloth said to give some resistance to lightsabers, although the protection the reinforced material afforded was limited.
* Sith Alchemy was employed during the eras of the first Sith Empire to augment the properties of metals so as to counter the seemingly unstoppable lightsaber. The Sith also made use of such elements as cortosis in the forging of their Sith swords. After the original Sith Empire, the most notorious use of Sith alchemy was in the construction and reinforcement of Darth Vader's armor.
* Mandalorian iron: A metal used by the Mandalorian warriors.
* Force Weapon: Weapons imbued with the power of the Force could be used to parry a lightsaber's blade without harm.
* Water: All lightsabers, unless specially made,[13] would short out when they were submerged in water, due to rapid chain reactions and the instant overpowering of water on the blade. In rain, a lightsaber would steam up, but not short out.[16]
Other counteracting materials existed in the galaxy, such as various energy shields. Some animals, such as lava dragons, were possessed of natural armor that reflected the blade. Superconductive materials (such as Ultrachrome) have a degree of resistance to lightsaber strikes.
I have no clue as to how this all turned into a what it did but case is simple this is a video game ; and its an mmo, that being said thigns will be BALANCED! im starting to wonder who actually played SWG at launched , who was a jedi in it and who wasn't. I know their probably are a few that will see this and have posted but simple fact giving one class special privilage over ever other class will only create an unbalanced system and an influx of the classes population (refer to swg with the jedi before the CU). This being said the one that will win a fight will depend on certain things level, gear, and knowledge of the players abilities , how to properly use them (such as timing and order snare, dot etc). Lastly why can't a smuggler kill exar kun yes it i know it didn't happen i've read the lore but simply going to state this. Jedi/sith can be tricked, can be fooled, can be to arrogant everyone has their flaws they're no different. A bounty hunter could plant charges on a roof and detonate them while using their jetpack to escape. A smuggler could cloud their thoughts with card numbers , hyperspace routes (think atton in KOTOR2), a trooper could simple just be using an advanced piece of technology with destructive power that the jedi/sith under estimates or a sticky grenade could be oddly place. Step away from the world we all know as jedi/sith being what they are the main focus of a story and look at the side characters around them yes they probably won't save the universe but they are a key component to it, were would luke be without Han? were would revan be without Canderous? were would the Exile be with out Atton? lastly were would Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan be without Anakin (remember he was a boy helping them). Everyone is getting all estatic over it but I can't remember your name but whoever said they were going to be a trooper I salute you since I myself will be a Bounty Hunter its great to see others that won't jump onto the hooky religion band wagon. Lastly everyone its a game how would it be fun if one person always beat you or one class.
Every thing about the Star Wars universe tells us that Sith and Jedi are the most powerful. Am I the only one that feels there's something wrong when a dinky Galactic Empire Soldier kills a Sith Lord? It's imperative that the classes be equal in an mmo, but we also know that in the Star Wars universe they are not.
Every thing about the Star Wars universe tells us that Sith and Jedi are the most powerful. Am I the only one that feels there's something wrong when a dinky Galactic Empire Soldier kills a Sith Lord? It's imperative that the classes be equal in an mmo, but we also know that in the Star Wars universe they are not.
No, you are not alone in thinking this. I feel the same. Force users are more powerful, for the simple reason that they can use a strong power others can't.
That's why I think they should just have made two playable classes in opposing factions, namely Jedi and Sith, and to make the game sandbox to allow players to do all the other things the rest of the classes do.
It's not like a Jedi or Sith can't use fire-arms, gadgets, jetpacks, and everything else. In fact I don't think it would have been against the lore if a Jedi or Sith prefer to use fire-arms over lightsabers or some other means of fighting. The opposite. There are lots of Jedi and Sith and it would be logical to assume not everyone would want to fight with lightsabers and that they are trained in other means of fighting besides their lightsabers.
My point is. A lot of the Star Wars has to do with the force. There are only a small number of force users. Yet every Jedi or Sith certainly have the ability to do all the things the other classes do, Smuggling, Bounty-Hunting etc etc.. So, what is the need for those classes? I think it's a bit ridiculous to have those professions as classes at all. And what will they be like? Will every Bounty-Hunter run around in a Fett suit? Even though Fett is basically the only Bounty-Hunter in the SW universe I've seen that uses that outfit. And what says every Smuggler use the same skills and abilities in their trade.
The classes are just too vague. They are shooting themselves in the foot by implementing classes (Other than Jedi and Sith) in this game.
It would be immensely better for balancing too, because it would be easier to balance the game. Classes are a pain to keep balanced in any game. Besides, we all know what is going to happen to the class balance population-wise... Jedi and Sith overplayed (For obvious reasons.. duh, they are Jedi and Sith... I will be Sith myself..) and the rest underplayed.
Endnote: They should scrap classes and make it into a sandbox with Jedi and Sith playable. That's what would work best for the Star Wars IP!
End result, I dont see the big deal. It seems like most of you want your jedi power trip from pre nge back.
Facts are.
1) Normal people can kill jedis in large quantities (Reference star wars movies)
2) The game is going to be balanced and is going to include 8 classes regardless of what you say
It's just that simple. Saying that a balanced mmo would not be star wars is folly. Are the lord of the rings movies not really lotr because a few things were changed. Is a book with a lenient interpretation of the cannon not a star wars book? There's no reason to make a big deal over nothing.
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Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
tbf tho Exar kun is reguared as being 1 of the most powerfull and dangerous sith lords to have ever lived
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
Han solo is a smuggler. Han solo is also the Fonz of his era. Do you sir presume to insult the Fonz reincarnate? Good luck
On a serious note I understand that the book placed Exar Kun in a position of extreme power, so did the game ie Revan and Malak though not on the level that your talking about, if the game was based on the pure version of the books it would be wildly unbalanced. Star wars just like anything else is open to interpretation it was interpreted a certain way for kotor 1 and kotor 2 and I believe tor will follow suit.
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
Yeah man, that's exactly what i'm talking about. And Exar was a Sith lord...
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
You're not exactly talking about a regular jedi there, are you?
We've often seen jedi get downed by a single shot with a blaster; not every jedi will be able to block every blaster shot every time; or dodge every grenade/flamethrower aimed at them.
You won't get to play Luke, or Vader. You will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Jedi/Sith and I will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Trooper, and as has already been said, regular troopers can kill regular jedis/sith.
It will be very funny though; because I'm 96% sure that people will roll a Sith under the misconception that they will be overpowered.
On launch day, I will sense a great disturbance in the force, as if a single Sith voice cried out 'wtf', and was suddenly silenced.
By mah gun.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
Han solo is a smuggler. Han solo is also the Fonz of his era. Do you sir presume to insult the Fonz reincarnate? Good luck
On a serious note I understand that the book placed Exar Kun in a position of extreme power, so did the game ie Revan and Malak though not on the level that your talking about, if the game was based on the pure version of the books it would be wildly unbalanced. Star wars just like anything else is open to interpretation it was interpreted a certain way for kotor 1 and kotor 2 and I believe tor will follow suit.
In KoTOR 2 it was said that Darth Nihilus could destroy planets (and correct me if I'm wrong, he killed the whole jedi order, or perhaps some of the most powerful masters)... He was defeated then by protogonist...
Bioware is not responsible for The Old Republic era. It was first created by the Tales of the Jedi series. A series in which a fallen jedi named Exar Kun annihilates an entire solar system with his force powers.
Oh ya... definitely think a heroic smuggler type could take him down.
You're not exactly talking about a regular jedi there, are you?
We've often seen jedi get downed by a single shot with a blaster; not every jedi will be able to block every blaster shot every time; or dodge every grenade/flamethrower aimed at them.
You won't get to play Luke, or Vader. You will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Jedi/Sith and I will be a regular (if somewhat heroic) Trooper, and as has already been said, regular troopers can kill regular jedis/sith.
It will be very funny though; because I'm 96% sure that people will roll a Sith under the misconception that they will be overpowered.
On launch day, I will sense a great disturbance in the force, as if a single Sith voice cried out 'wtf', and was suddenly silenced.
By mah gun.
QFT
Man regular jedis started their training from childhood (6-8 years). 13-14 years jedi-to-be was a very tough opponent even for best commandos. To become a jedi knight padawan had to perform something outstanding. And I mean really outstanding not just to help an old lady to cross the street... And then after years, and teaching lot of Jedi Knights he could become a jedi master...
The plural of Jedi is Jedi. The plural of Sith is Sith.
If you're going to take a stand for the authenticity of lore, be a good nerd and at least learn how to spell what you're championing.
You realise that you just completely set yourself up for a joke aimed at what the average age of the jedi player will be in TOR?
I'll restrain myself from making it; it's like shooting jedi in a barrel.
You see, training is all well and good, and to be honest I'm hoping that jedi/sith are tough opponents, because everyone likes a challenge but well .. I have this 3ft long rifle, and I am going to shoot sith in the face with it. You see my dilemma.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
The plural of Jedi is Jedi. The plural of Sith is Sith.
If you're going to take a stand for the authenticity of lore, be a good nerd and at least learn how to spell what you're championing.
in Russian it's different. And I know my English sucks - you said nothing new to me...
The plural of Jedi is Jedi. The plural of Sith is Sith.
If you're going to take a stand for the authenticity of lore, be a good nerd and at least learn how to spell what you're championing.
in Russian it's different. And I know my English sucks - you said nothing new to me...
Oh, handy. Could you please tell me what the russian translations are for the following words?
Face. Shoot. Rifle. Sith.
Thankyousomuch.
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I'll restrain myself from making it; it's like shooting jedi in a barrel.
You see, training is all well and good, and to be honest I'm hoping that jedi/sith are tough opponents, because everyone likes a challenge but well .. I have this 3ft long rifle, and I am going to shoot sith in the face with it. You see my dilemma.
Yeah sure you have the right. But if i'd be a real sith i redirect your shot right in your left eye... Heh looks like they won't allow me to do this...
I'll restrain myself from making it; it's like shooting jedi in a barrel.
You see, training is all well and good, and to be honest I'm hoping that jedi/sith are tough opponents, because everyone likes a challenge but well .. I have this 3ft long rifle, and I am going to shoot sith in the face with it. You see my dilemma.
Yeah sure you have the right. But if i'd be a real sith i redirect your shot right in your left eye... Heh looks like they won't allow me to do this...
That's what the armoured helmet is for! .. shame you didn't notice the flash-bang grenade though.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
The plural of Jedi is Jedi. The plural of Sith is Sith.
If you're going to take a stand for the authenticity of lore, be a good nerd and at least learn how to spell what you're championing.
in Russian it's different. And I know my English sucks - you said nothing new to me...
What's Russian for this? Or was that different too?
The plural of Jedi is Jedi. The plural of Sith is Sith.
If you're going to take a stand for the authenticity of lore, be a good nerd and at least learn how to spell what you're championing.
in Russian it's different. And I know my English sucks - you said nothing new to me...
What's Russian for this? Or was that different too?
Heh, nice. I'm starting to wonder if choosing a sith/jedi will be detrimental to a player in PVP..
I don't know about you, but screw the Bounty Hunters and whatever else the empire classes might be, I'm aiming straight for the emo bugger in the black dress.
Playing: EVE, Final Fantasy 13, Uncharted 2, Need for Speed: Shift
Sure it was. Lucas films to SW world are what Holiwood blockbasters to real life... But the funniest thing though is Lucas films gave SW World its birth...
The plural of Jedi is Jedi. The plural of Sith is Sith.
If you're going to take a stand for the authenticity of lore, be a good nerd and at least learn how to spell what you're championing.
in Russian it's different. And I know my English sucks - you said nothing new to me...
What's Russian for this? Or was that different too?
Sure it was. Lucas films to SW world are what Holiwood blockbasters to real life... But the funniest thing though is Lucas films gave SW World its birth...
You lost me bro. Are you suggesting we should disregard the movies as Star Wars lore?
The plural of Jedi is Jedi. The plural of Sith is Sith.
If you're going to take a stand for the authenticity of lore, be a good nerd and at least learn how to spell what you're championing.
in Russian it's different. And I know my English sucks - you said nothing new to me...
What's Russian for this? Or was that different too?
Sure it was. Lucas films to SW world are what Holiwood blockbasters to real life... But the funniest thing though is Lucas films gave SW World its birth...
You lost me bro. Are you suggesting we should disregard the movies as Star Wars lore?
agreed im starting to get lost here as well
Not all jedis and siths are masters/lords, players wont be at start and dunno at end game.
The other classes, the trooper for example, arent the common ones. A trooper player wont be the common soldier but a high ranked commando.
Also FYI, against the lightsabers there are resistent materials that can stand the hits. So no it wont be an unbalanced game.
It wont be an unbalenced game,
even if force users are more elite they will be made equal to others obviously
for people who are saying about all these sith lords in hte old republic, FYI you can't play those well maybe at level 220 but then you wont be fighting level 5's anyway
Just like any mmo based on a standing title e.g. lord of the rings online. You can't be stronger then gandalf or it would sort of be stupid why tolkien didnt write you into the books
To clear things up about lightsaber cutting power
Aside from the blade of another lightsaber, there were rare materials that could withstand a lightsaber blade, but with varying degrees of success:
* Cortosis, although a rare and expensive metal, was a common defense against lightsabers. One of the reasons it was so expensive was the need to refine it. Pure, unrefined, Cortosis ore was, for unexplained reasons, ionized and anyone who touched it would be killed instantly. There were three known methods of forging cortosis armor and weapons, each with varying effects:
Shadday Potkin duels Darth Vader using a Sword of cortosis weave.
The first method was to make the armor or weapon with a cortosis weave, which utilized the ore's primary elements. When contacted by a lightsaber's blade, the cortosis fibers that were worked into the metal caused a surge that shorted out the energy blade. The lightsaber could be reactivated immediately, but it gave the opponent the momentary upper hand.
The most common and inexpensive method employed during the Jedi Civil War was the use of a variant cortosis alloy that resisted the lightsaber blade itself, although it did not cause the lightsaber to deactivate. This enabled troops to fight Jedi or Sith blade-to-blade.
The rarest type of cortosis came in the form of a refined metal with all the impure elements removed. Thus purified, there were no "weaker" metals for the lightsaber to damage, and unique conducting elements remained to short out the energy blade. This refined alloy, nicknamed a cortosis shield was most often employed as armor.
* Lightfoil were small and elegant energy swords based upon lightsabers. They were popular among certain nobles of the Tapani sector, especially those that called themselves "saber rakes". Lightfoils were weaker than authentic lightsabers due to the poor quality focusing crystals used in their manufacture and the relatively low level of craftsmanship compared to Jedi artisans. They did not require any connection to the Force to create, and were fully usable by non-Force sensitives.
* Phrik, was a rare metallic compound that could withstand a lightsaber blade, although unlike the aforementioned metal, Phrik did not possess the ability to cause the blade to short out. Phrik was most notably used in the construction of the electrostaffs wielded by General Grievous's MagnaGuards. Other notable uses of Phrik included elements of Palpatine's lightsaber and Dark Trooper armor.
* Darkswords were an ancient type of sword made from a special material that could parry lightsabers. Unlike cortosis, this material did not possess the ability to temporarily deactivate a lightsaber blade it made contact with.
A Jedi uses his lightsaber against a Vaklu soldier's cortosis alloy vibrosword.
* Armorweave was a cloth said to give some resistance to lightsabers, although the protection the reinforced material afforded was limited.
* Sith Alchemy was employed during the eras of the first Sith Empire to augment the properties of metals so as to counter the seemingly unstoppable lightsaber. The Sith also made use of such elements as cortosis in the forging of their Sith swords. After the original Sith Empire, the most notorious use of Sith alchemy was in the construction and reinforcement of Darth Vader's armor.
* Mandalorian iron: A metal used by the Mandalorian warriors.
* Force Weapon: Weapons imbued with the power of the Force could be used to parry a lightsaber's blade without harm.
* Water: All lightsabers, unless specially made,[13] would short out when they were submerged in water, due to rapid chain reactions and the instant overpowering of water on the blade. In rain, a lightsaber would steam up, but not short out.[16]
Other counteracting materials existed in the galaxy, such as various energy shields. Some animals, such as lava dragons, were possessed of natural armor that reflected the blade. Superconductive materials (such as Ultrachrome) have a degree of resistance to lightsaber strikes.
I have no clue as to how this all turned into a what it did but case is simple this is a video game ; and its an mmo, that being said thigns will be BALANCED! im starting to wonder who actually played SWG at launched , who was a jedi in it and who wasn't. I know their probably are a few that will see this and have posted but simple fact giving one class special privilage over ever other class will only create an unbalanced system and an influx of the classes population (refer to swg with the jedi before the CU). This being said the one that will win a fight will depend on certain things level, gear, and knowledge of the players abilities , how to properly use them (such as timing and order snare, dot etc). Lastly why can't a smuggler kill exar kun yes it i know it didn't happen i've read the lore but simply going to state this. Jedi/sith can be tricked, can be fooled, can be to arrogant everyone has their flaws they're no different. A bounty hunter could plant charges on a roof and detonate them while using their jetpack to escape. A smuggler could cloud their thoughts with card numbers , hyperspace routes (think atton in KOTOR2), a trooper could simple just be using an advanced piece of technology with destructive power that the jedi/sith under estimates or a sticky grenade could be oddly place. Step away from the world we all know as jedi/sith being what they are the main focus of a story and look at the side characters around them yes they probably won't save the universe but they are a key component to it, were would luke be without Han? were would revan be without Canderous? were would the Exile be with out Atton? lastly were would Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan be without Anakin (remember he was a boy helping them). Everyone is getting all estatic over it but I can't remember your name but whoever said they were going to be a trooper I salute you since I myself will be a Bounty Hunter its great to see others that won't jump onto the hooky religion band wagon. Lastly everyone its a game how would it be fun if one person always beat you or one class.
Watch episode 3
No, you are not alone in thinking this. I feel the same. Force users are more powerful, for the simple reason that they can use a strong power others can't.
That's why I think they should just have made two playable classes in opposing factions, namely Jedi and Sith, and to make the game sandbox to allow players to do all the other things the rest of the classes do.
It's not like a Jedi or Sith can't use fire-arms, gadgets, jetpacks, and everything else. In fact I don't think it would have been against the lore if a Jedi or Sith prefer to use fire-arms over lightsabers or some other means of fighting. The opposite. There are lots of Jedi and Sith and it would be logical to assume not everyone would want to fight with lightsabers and that they are trained in other means of fighting besides their lightsabers.
My point is. A lot of the Star Wars has to do with the force. There are only a small number of force users. Yet every Jedi or Sith certainly have the ability to do all the things the other classes do, Smuggling, Bounty-Hunting etc etc.. So, what is the need for those classes? I think it's a bit ridiculous to have those professions as classes at all. And what will they be like? Will every Bounty-Hunter run around in a Fett suit? Even though Fett is basically the only Bounty-Hunter in the SW universe I've seen that uses that outfit. And what says every Smuggler use the same skills and abilities in their trade.
The classes are just too vague. They are shooting themselves in the foot by implementing classes (Other than Jedi and Sith) in this game.
It would be immensely better for balancing too, because it would be easier to balance the game. Classes are a pain to keep balanced in any game. Besides, we all know what is going to happen to the class balance population-wise... Jedi and Sith overplayed (For obvious reasons.. duh, they are Jedi and Sith... I will be Sith myself..) and the rest underplayed.
Endnote: They should scrap classes and make it into a sandbox with Jedi and Sith playable. That's what would work best for the Star Wars IP!
End result, I dont see the big deal. It seems like most of you want your jedi power trip from pre nge back.
Facts are.
1) Normal people can kill jedis in large quantities (Reference star wars movies)
2) The game is going to be balanced and is going to include 8 classes regardless of what you say
It's just that simple. Saying that a balanced mmo would not be star wars is folly. Are the lord of the rings movies not really lotr because a few things were changed. Is a book with a lenient interpretation of the cannon not a star wars book? There's no reason to make a big deal over nothing.