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Why there is no business mmorpg?
b-strat
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Hello all,
I am new here and pardon me if I opened this topic in a not appropriate section of the wonderful site.
I am new to mmorpgs in general. I got enough information from the internet to understand that there are lots of mmorpg games that I can play, but could not decide which to start.
I am interested in business related game. I would prefer to play a strategic business role play game where there may be business companies, competitions, business wars etc ... BUT I could not find any of the MMORPGs with that content.
Are there any business MMORPGs at all?
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EVE online is everything you just mentioned. You will need to pilot a bit at first, but once you get a bit of cash and skills, you can effectively play it as a stock market game, or start your own corperation.
I read a review of this game but ...
Are there any products to sell there? are there an opportunity to hire salesforce? to market products on the household markets consisting of several segments, corporate market and international market? are the the opportunities to generate income out of sales? are there the opportunity of getting marketingis researcha and market intelligence information? are there the opportunities to manage produt portfolio?
Unless you get into a corporation that holds your hand, EVE can take a year or longer to really get into and understand.
Now if you want a business game that has a lot simplier learning curve, I recommend the following:
http://luminary.ndoorsgames.com/center/default.asp
Sure, it may look childish with the graphics, but I can assure you that the economics and politics of this game are fiercely competitive and a great time.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
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"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Yeah, EvE Online gives you atleast the option to be a trader/salesmen.
I don't know, if it's that much fun to sit in Jita 4/4 the whole day adjusting buy- and sell-orders, but everything to it's own.
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When Walking in Stations goes live (EvE AddOn announced for sometime early 2010), then this could be really the game for you, as it let's you build a bar in a station, with charcaters able to play games, buying drinks etc.
Haha... item-mall? NO WAY!
I love Eve, but a straight-up business MMORPG, as the OP describes it, sounds too much like real life or a company training exercise!
I would recommend EVE Online also.
Mr. Bagguns
well, no childish stuff
... something serious ...
so as I see there are none ...
how do you think, why there are no serious business mmorpgs?
The best business mmorpg is called real life. Instead of finding a game to play at night, I suggest you pick up more hours at work or another job and grind there.
EVE is not childish, and is very much a business game. So, there is at least one. :P
What you described in an earlier post is better suited to a Sim-city style single player game and not an MMORPG.
And as someone else said, you can go play real life if you really want to do those things, and make a little pocket change besides.
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Corporations which are industrial based actually go to war or hire mercs to go to war against a rival indy corp if tensions get high enough, if the other undercuts them repeatedly, etc. You can also buy and trade your wares or wares from one local market to another which has a higher sale value, etc......
I don't know a whole lot about Cities XL but would this game fit into this category that the OP is looking for? It sounds to me like a sim-city builder that would include building of businesses and just overall making your city successful. I understand it's not released yet but maybe the OP can try to get into the beta test or just hold out for it's release.
I see many EVE fans here ... and that is clear
But to consider EVE as a business game is not ok ...
Yes, there is an economy system inside the game, but that system lies in every MMORPG
Nope, actually there's no other MMO I've played so far that has anything like the economy of EvE Online.
And I've played my fair shar of MMOs during the last 10 years.
SWG had a good economy-system aswell, but the game got destroyed by the NGE-patch.
Anything like the economy-system of WoW or games like that aren't even worth mentioning, when talking about ingame-economies.
EvE's economy works as intended and actually there's alot of people playing EvE just because of the economy.
No other MMO so far offers the opportunity to be a trader or crafter without having to do anything else. You don't have to kill a single NPC or even fire a single weapon in EvE to develop your characters skills.
So yes, EvE Online is the only MMO I've came across so far, where you're able to play a salesmen and have fun by doing so, competing with other etc.
EDIT: As EvE Is a sandbox, it is what you want it to be. So if you want it to be a business-MMO, then you can do that in EvE.
Other business-related aspects of EVE that haven't been mentioned yet are the market tools and corporate management.
Players have access to up to a year or so of historical data on the volume and prices of trade in each region. The graphs of the data include a 5-Day and a 20-Day moving average as well as Donchian channel bars to give an idea of the stability of an item's price.
Corporations also have roles that people can fill and various permissions assigned to those roles. An overview of that is here: http://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=187
To answer your second post in this thread, it all depends on which type of business game you are looking for. If you are looking to play an advanced Lemonade Stand, where a single player manages all the dealings of a company and controls all the functions of it with menu options to set tasks for his 'staff' then that's not EVE. If you are looking for a game where you can hire actual people can do each of those actual tasks for you, then EVE could very well be the game for you. The information is accessible, intelligence is valuable, and the corporate dealings are done by real players.
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A good business mmo is Entropia Universe.
Saying that, its not really a "game" more of a alter real life in a sense where you can earn real money, but in order to do that you best put your money into the game and then learn how to actually make your way through the world and earn money by doing business deals where you make armour, weapons, realestate etc.
Eve is a good "business" game, like i said game so if you wanted something that you can have a ingame business but for gaming sake then eve is nice.
Yes, but no. Business is not the focus of eve online, and although it has a bit of business concepts most of those concepts are hideiously dull. Perhaps the most important flaw of eve online is that you have no way to differentiate yourself from your competitors, at least in a business sense. There is no variability in the end product, and the only real differentiation is in the time you can produce products in through skill point time reduction. You can become more powerful than your competitors in "the game", and get rarer schematics, but other than that anything you can do anyone else can do the same.
But eh, maybe it's worth a shot. I still found SWG pre-cu far more entertaining from a business perspective.
Because no-one would play it in sufficient numbers to make it viable. People want escapism from jobs that are identical to the game you'd like to play.
The economic system of Eve is actually extremely complex, and no other game comes close to it.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=virtual-world-economists-on-real-economies
Because no-one would play it in sufficient numbers to make it viable. People want escapism from jobs that are identical to the game you'd like to play.
Creating a business is far from identical to the jobs that most people have. That being said, you cannot base a mmo on business. The business component must be an addition to a great game. Without a great game to drive the business, there's no point to having one.
might this be close to it?: http://www.richmangame.com/
RichManGame is a massive multiplayer online game of business strategy with very simple rules. Your goal is to maximize your networth through various corporate actions and make yourself the richest person in the RichManGame.
In the game, you will have to develop a portfolio of assets in order to generate cash. Every good businessman learns that it takes money to make money. So, with the cash generated from assets you have, you can start building a stronger and larger asset base.
I think it depends on whether the person;s goal is to be an entrepreneur or an artisan. Aside from what you listed above, there is also the ability to offer a less expensive product through more efficient production, the ability to actually deliver a product, and the manpower to complete it within the buyer's time frame. It works very much like real life. You have a wide range of brands and models to choose from so the price, selection, availability and accessibility are the key factors. The variability in products is the models just like in real life. A Canon (brand) SD750 (model) is going to have the same features no matter where a person buys it. If they want different features, they look for a different model.
From an artisan's point of view, the options are limited as a buy would have to check the ledger to see who he bought from and even then that doesn't indicate the maker. So the artisan looking to be the single guy to go to for equipment probably won't get much notoriety, but if he can build what others can't, offer it at a good price, and deliver it to where it's needed... everyone will know his corp and his marketing guy.
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As I see Entropia Universe can be useful for generating some income ... And that makes this game very popular
are there any other games where you can generate real cash income?
and is this [money generation opportunity] a sufficient motivation for many players?