I agree that the instant gratification in games is getting out of hand. But that's a problem soley with that particular part of the player base, not the people that run the games. Just as with gold farming. The problem isn't really the farmers, but the so-called players that buy their gold.
As far as changing factions, I think it's a fantastic idea. If you look at it from an RPG perspective, it just makes sense. I've always thought games should have this built in. It shouldn't be easy, but it should be possible.
You know i don't undestand the "omg blizzard is trying to squeeze people for every last cent" crap, yeah i know they sure do like the money rolling in but the cost is also put in place to keep the system from being abused, since they know alot of people just don't want to part with their money.
None of this stuff is necessary to use, nobody forces you to use it so in the end its just something that is being offered to those who might desperatly want to use it for whatever reason. They really aren't milking anyone for any more money then their 15 bucks a month.
Its nice that they are offering services and these types of services should never be free or cheap as far as i'm concerned.
I just recently payed 10 bucks for a name change, i simply got tired of the name i chose, kinda stupid to some yeah, but it felt good that i could have that kind of option and i agree with the price of it.
These type of services take extra work and time so like i said i don't see a problem charging for it.
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I have no issue with it although I have reolled multiple times on both factions. They really want to make me happy they need to give nonraiders something more. I don't really care about raiders epeens just give me some long storyline quests to do that have good rewards. Doesn't even have to be on par with raids a step under if fine but it should have a completely different look. Honestly if my hatred of raiding was not bad before after seeing the majority of the raiders community I have contact with in WoWs antics the hatred as only grown.
Did they say if it was going to be a $$ service or something you can actually do ingame involving quests ? However i'm not sure having Undead in Ironforge or Night Elf in Orgrimmar is a good thing....
Interesting. I would like to know if a race is conversed, or if it works like the EQ2 betrayal. So, will be see Tauren Allies and Human Hordelings? o.0
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if it works like the EQ2 betrayal. So, will be see Tauren Allies and Human Hordelings? o.0
hope so, otherwise I really don't care about this addtion to bliz's offered services. I'm resubbing if the race stays, ignoring it as normal if it changes your race :P
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I do admit, the idea of switching factions is interesting and could be do-able.
But I feel Blizzard is going to too far with these "Paid Character Services". If any thing comes after this. it would switching your own Class. Then even after that it would go to the point of absolute sell-out: Blizzard instantly leveling a character to 80 for a fee.
I'm not saying Blizzard would do those, but from what I've seen it's plausible they would. Being the largest MMO out there, they can either make or break their own ideas.
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Blizzard is just milking WoW for the rest of its worth before they announce their next MMO, imho. On another note, I see this as another factor contributing to the downfall of WoW, seeing as no one I know of is going from Horde --> Alliance, and most people will be going from Alliance --> Horde. Population imbalance is going to be something that Blizzard actually needs to think about.
If anything, this should fix the population imbalances. On all the servers I've been on, alliance has always outnumbered horde. Plus, I always wanted to be a human Death Knight, but on the horde
I remember the days when you just rerolled and experienced the other side.... I can see that the "I don't have to time to play" crowd is getting what they want but in the meantime they live on the WoW forum 24/7. I predict that premade characters will be sold soon.
Perhaps some people have already maxed out 3-4 characters dont feel like re-rolling yet again.
Interesting. I would like to know if a race is conversed, or if it works like the EQ2 betrayal. So, will be see Tauren Allies and Human Hordelings? o.0
It would be awesome of Gnomes could become Lepper Gnomes.
Most likely because the new expansion will contain a new race or races, and since this is World of Nerfstick, they don't want to risk having casual players leave because they can't play it.
I did quit when BC hit, and came back from Lich King, and I must say this game has definitely gotten stupid easy and lost its pre-BC appeal.
nice sarcasam, too bad for some of us, who will only play what we find enjoyable (no sense paying if you're not enjoying it), this will make the difference of resubbing or not. I've played mmos for 10 years and won't spend my cash when I'm not enjoying what I'm playing even if the reason I'm not enjoying it is the race limits /shrug
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I'm split on this as well. I like it because it will be good for PvP if players decide they want more balanced realms. Having the option to be the underdog is nice, even though I highly doubt many WoW players are really into that. That's one of the advantages of playing multiplayer FPS, is you can change sides to even things up. Instantly. Without paying any money. Hell some of the better class-based FPS multiplayer games automatically even teams out.
What I don't like about it is that now, players are even less accountable for thier actions. Reputation used to mean something (alot more than your stats and gear). Nowadays ninja looters and all around assholes can just change thier character's name, face, and now faction, and no one would be the wiser. I think this is a big reason that there are so many solo gamers nowadays also. Those who couldn't be bothered with the risk of a poor player, or a jerk. Unfortunately, there's no way to tell anymore. It's so anonymous.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
Someone back there brought up this turning into SOEs RMT.... Not really anything like it. Station Cash lets people buy cosmetic items... at least SOE was kind enough to make it free... just have to do some quests to get your faction relations up.... though I suppose a majority of players would prefer a quick and easy payment instead of faction grinding.
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I agree that the instant gratification in games is getting out of hand. But that's a problem soley with that particular part of the player base, not the people that run the games. Just as with gold farming. The problem isn't really the farmers, but the so-called players that buy their gold.
As far as changing factions, I think it's a fantastic idea. If you look at it from an RPG perspective, it just makes sense. I've always thought games should have this built in. It shouldn't be easy, but it should be possible.
You know i don't undestand the "omg blizzard is trying to squeeze people for every last cent" crap, yeah i know they sure do like the money rolling in but the cost is also put in place to keep the system from being abused, since they know alot of people just don't want to part with their money.
None of this stuff is necessary to use, nobody forces you to use it so in the end its just something that is being offered to those who might desperatly want to use it for whatever reason. They really aren't milking anyone for any more money then their 15 bucks a month.
Its nice that they are offering services and these types of services should never be free or cheap as far as i'm concerned.
I just recently payed 10 bucks for a name change, i simply got tired of the name i chose, kinda stupid to some yeah, but it felt good that i could have that kind of option and i agree with the price of it.
These type of services take extra work and time so like i said i don't see a problem charging for it.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
I have no issue with it although I have reolled multiple times on both factions. They really want to make me happy they need to give nonraiders something more. I don't really care about raiders epeens just give me some long storyline quests to do that have good rewards. Doesn't even have to be on par with raids a step under if fine but it should have a completely different look. Honestly if my hatred of raiding was not bad before after seeing the majority of the raiders community I have contact with in WoWs antics the hatred as only grown.
Did they say if it was going to be a $$ service or something you can actually do ingame involving quests ? However i'm not sure having Undead in Ironforge or Night Elf in Orgrimmar is a good thing....
Interesting. I would like to know if a race is conversed, or if it works like the EQ2 betrayal. So, will be see Tauren Allies and Human Hordelings? o.0
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
hope so, otherwise I really don't care about this addtion to bliz's offered services. I'm resubbing if the race stays, ignoring it as normal if it changes your race :P
I do admit, the idea of switching factions is interesting and could be do-able.
But I feel Blizzard is going to too far with these "Paid Character Services". If any thing comes after this. it would switching your own Class. Then even after that it would go to the point of absolute sell-out: Blizzard instantly leveling a character to 80 for a fee.
I'm not saying Blizzard would do those, but from what I've seen it's plausible they would. Being the largest MMO out there, they can either make or break their own ideas.
Currently playing: Star Wars: The Old Republic, World of Warcraft, Dota 2, League of Legends
Waiting on: Blade & Soul, Guild Wars 2, Tera, Kingdoms of Amular, Firefall
If anything, this should fix the population imbalances. On all the servers I've been on, alliance has always outnumbered horde. Plus, I always wanted to be a human Death Knight, but on the horde
Perhaps some people have already maxed out 3-4 characters dont feel like re-rolling yet again.
It would be awesome of Gnomes could become Lepper Gnomes.
This will make me resub!
/sarcasm
Most likely because the new expansion will contain a new race or races, and since this is World of Nerfstick, they don't want to risk having casual players leave because they can't play it.
I did quit when BC hit, and came back from Lich King, and I must say this game has definitely gotten stupid easy and lost its pre-BC appeal.
nice sarcasam, too bad for some of us, who will only play what we find enjoyable (no sense paying if you're not enjoying it), this will make the difference of resubbing or not. I've played mmos for 10 years and won't spend my cash when I'm not enjoying what I'm playing even if the reason I'm not enjoying it is the race limits /shrug
Now if only we had FFA servers
[(T+G=W)=Gr*Nf]-S=FoF
T=Time G=Gear W=Win Gr=Grind Nf=NoFun S=Skill FoF=FullofFail
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This......
Would actualy bring me back to WOW for another run.
But regarding faction transfers, looks like they'll sell just about anything to maximize their revenues, maybe you could ask them for their sisters?
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I'm split on this as well. I like it because it will be good for PvP if players decide they want more balanced realms. Having the option to be the underdog is nice, even though I highly doubt many WoW players are really into that. That's one of the advantages of playing multiplayer FPS, is you can change sides to even things up. Instantly. Without paying any money. Hell some of the better class-based FPS multiplayer games automatically even teams out.
What I don't like about it is that now, players are even less accountable for thier actions. Reputation used to mean something (alot more than your stats and gear). Nowadays ninja looters and all around assholes can just change thier character's name, face, and now faction, and no one would be the wiser. I think this is a big reason that there are so many solo gamers nowadays also. Those who couldn't be bothered with the risk of a poor player, or a jerk. Unfortunately, there's no way to tell anymore. It's so anonymous.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
I havent read every response but I read this as, "Give us your credit card number and we will give you whatever you want".
I see this as the downfall of WoW simply because, those who actually EARNED what they have will leave from spite. I know I would.
Someone back there brought up this turning into SOEs RMT.... Not really anything like it. Station Cash lets people buy cosmetic items... at least SOE was kind enough to make it free... just have to do some quests to get your faction relations up.... though I suppose a majority of players would prefer a quick and easy payment instead of faction grinding.