Gee I thought he was the Lead Developer err the one in charge. In business that makes you the one responsible when the direction goes south. Sorry if I offended any Raph sympathizers...NOT.
The people in charge at soe decided to push the game out the door before it was finished. 3 years is not enough time to make an mmo with the team size they had. Those are not things within the power of the lead developer.
I truly hope that Raph Koster...the guy that ruined SWG...was one of them. I emphasize with the rest. Been there.
Ah, you might want to actually know something about how the SWG incident occurred before you asign blame. Koster had nothing to do with it, it was Smedley and LA that put together a special secret team to construct NGE over Koster's protests. All your post did is tell the rest of us you have no clue what you are talking about.
As long as Smedley is in charge, SOE has no chance at all. The man has no vision and has no concept of what his clients want in a game. Probably the worst executive in the business by a large margin. His lone achievement was EQ which was a long time ago in this industry.
This pretty much tells you that their f2p venture is not returning the cash they expected. So much for their 6 million accounts.
If not for EQ they wouldn't exist. They ruin every game they touch that has any sense of offering what the players want. The dude in charged should have been canned b4 these 41 people. Just because he was around when EQ launched he shouldn't have job security. EQ launched years ago with very little competition. It's a new day and age, and it's time to change the leadership imo.
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Maybe if SOE actually published GOOD MMORPGs, they wouldn't have this problem.
Do you think that is actually a fair statement?
If SOE cannot publish good games ,why did Blizzard choose EQ to copy for their WOW game?and we all have seen the results of WOW.BTW ,Blizzard had no idea EQ2 would blow the doors off of EQ,so at launch EQ2 was a much better project ,while WOW was left trying to overtake an ancient looking EQ game,i am positive,they were dumbfounded that SOE surpassed their effort.Why did Blizzard hire SOE staff is they are so dumb or bad?
How is FFXI a poorly published game?Square made it ,SOE published it exclusively for the Playstation and saved the franchise.
How was SWG such a bad game?several years later their intense fan base is still crying over the NGE?If the game was so bad ,i think those fans would not care about tthat game at all.
Bottom line is SOE is the ones other developers look to for ideas,ONLY SQuare Enix has chosen their own direction with their own ideas,if SOE was so bad,these games would come up with their own ideas,but they do not.
All of SOE's game have content,and always have unique ideas,very seldom do you see these other developers come up with unique ideas.
I would not be the least surprised if the next game breaking idea comes from an SOE game,or my next choice would be from Square Enix,they are the ONLY two developers right now ,with the ability to think for themselves or come up with unique ideas.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I truly hope that Raph Koster...the guy that ruined SWG...was one of them. I emphasize with the rest. Been there.
Ah, you might want to actually know something about how the SWG incident occurred before you asign blame. Koster had nothing to do with it, it was Smedley and LA that put together a special secret team to construct NGE over Koster's protests. All your post did is tell the rest of us you have no clue what you are talking about.
As long as Smedley is in charge, SOE has no chance at all. The man has no vision and has no concept of what his clients want in a game. Probably the worst executive in the business by a large margin. His lone achievement was EQ which was a long time ago in this industry.
This pretty much tells you that their f2p venture is not returning the cash they expected. So much for their 6 million accounts.
Ozmodan has got it right.
Smedley is a large source of the problem yet he stays with his overpaid salary and bonus while they fire 41 low paying employees. And don't forget Brad McQuaid is drawing a paycheck per Smedley's deal as Vanguard consultant. How stupid is that?
Obviously Free Realms is not raking in the money as SOE claims or they wouldn't be downsizing.
Maybe if SOE actually published GOOD MMORPGs, they wouldn't have this problem.
Do you think that is actually a fair statement?
If SOE cannot publish good games ,why did Blizzard choose EQ to copy for their WOW game?and we all have seen the results of WOW.BTW ,Blizzard had no idea EQ2 would blow the doors off of EQ,so at launch EQ2 was a much better project ,while WOW was left trying to overtake an ancient looking EQ game,i am positive,they were dumbfounded that SOE surpassed their effort.Why did Blizzard hire SOE staff is they are so dumb or bad?
How is FFXI a poorly published game?Square made it ,SOE published it exclusively for the Playstation and saved the franchise.
How was SWG such a bad game?several years later their intense fan base is still crying over the NGE?If the game was so bad ,i think those fans would not care about tthat game at all.
Bottom line is SOE is the ones other developers look to for ideas,ONLY SQuare Enix has chosen their own direction with their own ideas,if SOE was so bad,these games would come up with their own ideas,but they do not.
All of SOE's game have content,and always have unique ideas,very seldom do you see these other developers come up with unique ideas.
I would not be the least surprised if the next game breaking idea comes from an SOE game,or my next choice would be from Square Enix,they are the ONLY two developers right now ,with the ability to think for themselves or come up with unique ideas.
LOLZ
Game breaking idea as in how to ruin a game like they did with classic EQ and SWG.
My thoughts of hope are with the people that got laid off. Sony does publish good games until they decide to "patch" them. The only decent game they still have that I play is Infantry Online (and it is free!). Even though Harmless Games actually made it and then sold it to Sony Atleast Sony hasn't tried to "improve" it any!
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Gee I thought he was the Lead Developer err the one in charge. In business that makes you the one responsible when the direction goes south. Sorry if I offended any Raph sympathizers...NOT.
The people in charge at soe decided to push the game out the door before it was finished. 3 years is not enough time to make an mmo with the team size they had. Those are not things within the power of the lead developer.
^this and ozmodan's post
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What part of ruined from the getgo are you having trouble with.
This game was broken long before NGE. The Devs were consistently unable to fix one area of the game without breaking something else. I particularly remember pets spawning right on top of me after one "patch".
I am not the only one who has theorized that the database design was faulty. My guess is that someone, probably Koster, advocated the use of an unproven technology on the basis that it would speed up development.
Why would you blame Sony and find Koster blameless?
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What part of ruined from the getgo are you having trouble with. This game was broken long before NGE. The Devs were consistently unable to fix one area of the game without breaking something else. I particularly remember pets spawning right on top of me after one "patch". I am not the only one who has theorized that the database design was faulty. My guess is that someone, probably Koster, advocated the use of an unproven technology on the basis that it would speed up development. Why would you blame Sony and find Koster blameless?
lol and what part of "being rush out" do you not understand? A game thats rushed will have alot of bugs, especially a game such as SWG due to its size and depth. What the dev team did was pretty remarkable, sure it was buggy as hell (wouldnt say broken) but what they created in that short amount of time was something great. Player housing, skill system, multiple planets, amazing crafting and gathering and etc. I blame LEC and SOE for the NGE and the bugginess of the game. If they didnt rush it, it wouldnt have been so buggy.
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Someone had to say this game is ready for prime time. Wanna bet that Raph was one of those folks? Hello.
....... you are either a troll or you just havent been here that long.......... Doesnt matter what the lead designer says, if the big boys in suits say they want the game as ready as possible for release on X day, the developers dont have a choice.
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Originally posted by Wizardry If SOE cannot publish good games ,why did Blizzard choose EQ to copy for their WOW game?and we all have seen the results of WOW.BTW ,Blizzard had no idea EQ2 would blow the doors off of EQ,so at launch EQ2 was a much better project ,while WOW was left trying to overtake an ancient looking EQ game,i am positive,they were dumbfounded that SOE surpassed their effort.Why did Blizzard hire SOE staff is they are so dumb or bad?
EQ2 blew the doors off EQ? In what universe did that happen? EQ2 at best was about 1/3 the size of EQ. EQ2 never surpassed blizzards efforts and in fact was merging servers a year after its release. It was a terrible game in comparison.
Don't you remember the ads that soe was running for eq2? "no waiting lines", because people would rather wait to log in and play wow (sometimes hours) than play eq2 which had zero wait time.
Blizzard saw a good formula in eq and improved upon it. They hired players to help design a game that was fun and that is why it is so succssful. Most people do not think EQ2 is an improvement over EQ and that was sonys best effort. EQ2 was merging servers within a year after release and you think that is top notch effort?
SOE has always had talented people over the years, but they are not the problem. The people making the decisions are the problem, because they are so disconnected with their customers and gamers in general. There can be plenty of talent in a company and it still be run into the groun by upper management.
Someone had to say this game is ready for prime time. Wanna bet that Raph was one of those folks? Hello.
The same exact thing happened to EQ2. Rushed release, unfinished subsystems, incomplete game engine. That is a pattern for the company of soe, unless you want to blame the lead designers for that also.
Do you think raph told smed, "hey swg is ready for release" and no on bothered to look at the condition of the game? No one heard the cries of the beta testers saying it was not ready? Use some common sense.
Raph was promoted out of a position of authority right after the game was released. That was how soe handled him, just like they did with brad. This is a pattern with the company and how they do business.
"The lay offs were made to reduce costs and increase operational efficiency."
So There are now fewer poor slobs to accomplish the same amount of work
...how is that more efficient?...Because the implication is that if you don't start working 10 hours a day instead of 8, your next....Sometimes I really hate my industry. Artists and programmers are just treaded like shit way too often.
Sorry to hear about those poor guys loosing there jobs.
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What part of ruined from the getgo are you having trouble with. This game was broken long before NGE. The Devs were consistently unable to fix one area of the game without breaking something else. I particularly remember pets spawning right on top of me after one "patch". I am not the only one who has theorized that the database design was faulty. My guess is that someone, probably Koster, advocated the use of an unproven technology on the basis that it would speed up development. Why would you blame Sony and find Koster blameless?
Actually, the "database" was a business decision.
SOE had a deal with Oracle(I believe it was), and despite that their database was not suited for gaming, the suits made sure that it was used. And since the deal was a bad one, SWG could only use limited database space, since if they went over, with even 1 KB in database size, SOE would have to upgrade the database package.
So, Raph was not to blame for SOE using a database not suitable for gaming, nor the issues that came from that, and that they had to cut alot of the game that used the database extensively. The blame lies solely on the suites..aka Smedley and his goons.
If SOE needed to cut costs, they should push John Smedley out the door. He's cost them more revenue than he could ever be worth. Besides, he would have more time to play WoW while he waits out this recession. Of course he would probably think that Teldrassil is the coolest area of the game.
There is some reason that when someone disagrees with you they are a "troll"? Neither of us have any facts regarding Koster's role in the release of SWG, only opinions. I am entitled to mine.
correction, you misunderstand how mmorpgs are developed and blame some random guy with the word "lead" in his job description.
What i just listed, and an opinion are not the same 2 things.
EDIT: i think you're a troll because of lines like: "Sorry if I offended any Raph sympathizers...NOT."
and the fact that you have no clue what your talking about, but you're still going off and repeating that you blame raph. The only opinions i see in your posts, is the highlighted portion, and the fact you think raph is to blame for SWG's problems.
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"fact - a piece of information about circumstances that exist or events that have occurred".
Unless you know for a FACT that Koster did not agree with the "early" release of SWG or that he had no part of the deplorable design, you have only an opinion.
I agree with pleasure to the "Troll" portion of your comments. One does not prevail in debate by insisting that your opponent is less skilled in the art than oneself without presenting proof of your superior knowledge coupled with proof of my lack of knowledge.
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That's true..I do blame Raph Koster. "fact - a piece of information about circumstances that exist or events that have occurred". Unless you know for a FACT that Koster did not agree with the "early" release of SWG or that he had no part of the deplorable design, you have only an opinion. I agree with pleasure to the "Troll" portion of your comments. One does not prevail in debate by insisting that your opponent is less skilled in the art than oneself without presenting proof of your superior knowledge coupled with proof of my lack of knowledge.
And again you dont understand ..... game designers dont have much of a say in when a game is released..... The people who run studios and finance the game do. In that link, LEC/SOE announced an expansion 2 years before the game was even released, what kind of company does that? And how can you not see that as rushing? Anyways, i'll leave you to your ignorance, even with evidence i'm sure your expert knowledge of SWG should be enough, well that plus the covering of your ears and shouting lalalala over and over will help keep you closed from rational thought as well.
EDIT: and i think i get now why newer people would think the lead designer should take blame. With all these new small/indy game studios creating mmo's that crash and burn, its usually the lead designer that takes the fall (Gaute Godager, Tasos, etc). Lol you might want to use that logic for smaller game companys. But game companys run by big corporations such as LEC and SOE, things are much different then 60 guys working out of a abandoned warehouse and a small budget.
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Gee I thought he was the Lead Developer err the one in charge. In business that makes you the one responsible when the direction goes south.
Sorry if I offended any Raph sympathizers...NOT.
You can trust me with your secrets. Think of me as a wrinkled safe.
The people in charge at soe decided to push the game out the door before it was finished. 3 years is not enough time to make an mmo with the team size they had. Those are not things within the power of the lead developer.
Ah, you might want to actually know something about how the SWG incident occurred before you asign blame. Koster had nothing to do with it, it was Smedley and LA that put together a special secret team to construct NGE over Koster's protests. All your post did is tell the rest of us you have no clue what you are talking about.
As long as Smedley is in charge, SOE has no chance at all. The man has no vision and has no concept of what his clients want in a game. Probably the worst executive in the business by a large margin. His lone achievement was EQ which was a long time ago in this industry.
This pretty much tells you that their f2p venture is not returning the cash they expected. So much for their 6 million accounts.
SoE has always been full of fail.
If not for EQ they wouldn't exist. They ruin every game they touch that has any sense of offering what the players want. The dude in charged should have been canned b4 these 41 people. Just because he was around when EQ launched he shouldn't have job security. EQ launched years ago with very little competition. It's a new day and age, and it's time to change the leadership imo.
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Do you think that is actually a fair statement?
If SOE cannot publish good games ,why did Blizzard choose EQ to copy for their WOW game?and we all have seen the results of WOW.BTW ,Blizzard had no idea EQ2 would blow the doors off of EQ,so at launch EQ2 was a much better project ,while WOW was left trying to overtake an ancient looking EQ game,i am positive,they were dumbfounded that SOE surpassed their effort.Why did Blizzard hire SOE staff is they are so dumb or bad?
How is FFXI a poorly published game?Square made it ,SOE published it exclusively for the Playstation and saved the franchise.
How was SWG such a bad game?several years later their intense fan base is still crying over the NGE?If the game was so bad ,i think those fans would not care about tthat game at all.
Bottom line is SOE is the ones other developers look to for ideas,ONLY SQuare Enix has chosen their own direction with their own ideas,if SOE was so bad,these games would come up with their own ideas,but they do not.
All of SOE's game have content,and always have unique ideas,very seldom do you see these other developers come up with unique ideas.
I would not be the least surprised if the next game breaking idea comes from an SOE game,or my next choice would be from Square Enix,they are the ONLY two developers right now ,with the ability to think for themselves or come up with unique ideas.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Ah, you might want to actually know something about how the SWG incident occurred before you asign blame. Koster had nothing to do with it, it was Smedley and LA that put together a special secret team to construct NGE over Koster's protests. All your post did is tell the rest of us you have no clue what you are talking about.
As long as Smedley is in charge, SOE has no chance at all. The man has no vision and has no concept of what his clients want in a game. Probably the worst executive in the business by a large margin. His lone achievement was EQ which was a long time ago in this industry.
This pretty much tells you that their f2p venture is not returning the cash they expected. So much for their 6 million accounts.
Ozmodan has got it right.
Smedley is a large source of the problem yet he stays with his overpaid salary and bonus while they fire 41 low paying employees. And don't forget Brad McQuaid is drawing a paycheck per Smedley's deal as Vanguard consultant. How stupid is that?
Obviously Free Realms is not raking in the money as SOE claims or they wouldn't be downsizing.
Just avoid all SOE products.
Do you think that is actually a fair statement?
If SOE cannot publish good games ,why did Blizzard choose EQ to copy for their WOW game?and we all have seen the results of WOW.BTW ,Blizzard had no idea EQ2 would blow the doors off of EQ,so at launch EQ2 was a much better project ,while WOW was left trying to overtake an ancient looking EQ game,i am positive,they were dumbfounded that SOE surpassed their effort.Why did Blizzard hire SOE staff is they are so dumb or bad?
How is FFXI a poorly published game?Square made it ,SOE published it exclusively for the Playstation and saved the franchise.
How was SWG such a bad game?several years later their intense fan base is still crying over the NGE?If the game was so bad ,i think those fans would not care about tthat game at all.
Bottom line is SOE is the ones other developers look to for ideas,ONLY SQuare Enix has chosen their own direction with their own ideas,if SOE was so bad,these games would come up with their own ideas,but they do not.
All of SOE's game have content,and always have unique ideas,very seldom do you see these other developers come up with unique ideas.
I would not be the least surprised if the next game breaking idea comes from an SOE game,or my next choice would be from Square Enix,they are the ONLY two developers right now ,with the ability to think for themselves or come up with unique ideas.
LOLZ
Game breaking idea as in how to ruin a game like they did with classic EQ and SWG.
My thoughts of hope are with the people that got laid off. Sony does publish good games until they decide to "patch" them. The only decent game they still have that I play is Infantry Online (and it is free!). Even though Harmless Games actually made it and then sold it to Sony
Atleast Sony hasn't tried to "improve" it any!
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The people in charge at soe decided to push the game out the door before it was finished. 3 years is not enough time to make an mmo with the team size they had. Those are not things within the power of the lead developer.
^this and ozmodan's post
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What part of ruined from the getgo are you having trouble with.
This game was broken long before NGE. The Devs were consistently unable to fix one area of the game without breaking something else. I particularly remember pets spawning right on top of me after one "patch".
I am not the only one who has theorized that the database design was faulty. My guess is that someone, probably Koster, advocated the use of an unproven technology on the basis that it would speed up development.
Why would you blame Sony and find Koster blameless?
You can trust me with your secrets. Think of me as a wrinkled safe.
lol and what part of "being rush out" do you not understand? A game thats rushed will have alot of bugs, especially a game such as SWG due to its size and depth. What the dev team did was pretty remarkable, sure it was buggy as hell (wouldnt say broken) but what they created in that short amount of time was something great. Player housing, skill system, multiple planets, amazing crafting and gathering and etc. I blame LEC and SOE for the NGE and the bugginess of the game. If they didnt rush it, it wouldnt have been so buggy.
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They should have fired Smedley and kept the 41 others. Company would have been better off.
Someone had to say this game is ready for prime time. Wanna bet that Raph was one of those folks? Hello.
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....... you are either a troll or you just havent been here that long.......... Doesnt matter what the lead designer says, if the big boys in suits say they want the game as ready as possible for release on X day, the developers dont have a choice.
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EQ2 blew the doors off EQ? In what universe did that happen? EQ2 at best was about 1/3 the size of EQ. EQ2 never surpassed blizzards efforts and in fact was merging servers a year after its release. It was a terrible game in comparison.
Don't you remember the ads that soe was running for eq2? "no waiting lines", because people would rather wait to log in and play wow (sometimes hours) than play eq2 which had zero wait time.
Blizzard saw a good formula in eq and improved upon it. They hired players to help design a game that was fun and that is why it is so succssful. Most people do not think EQ2 is an improvement over EQ and that was sonys best effort. EQ2 was merging servers within a year after release and you think that is top notch effort?
SOE has always had talented people over the years, but they are not the problem. The people making the decisions are the problem, because they are so disconnected with their customers and gamers in general. There can be plenty of talent in a company and it still be run into the groun by upper management.
The same exact thing happened to EQ2. Rushed release, unfinished subsystems, incomplete game engine. That is a pattern for the company of soe, unless you want to blame the lead designers for that also.
Do you think raph told smed, "hey swg is ready for release" and no on bothered to look at the condition of the game? No one heard the cries of the beta testers saying it was not ready? Use some common sense.
Raph was promoted out of a position of authority right after the game was released. That was how soe handled him, just like they did with brad. This is a pattern with the company and how they do business.
"The lay offs were made to reduce costs and increase operational efficiency."
So There are now fewer poor slobs to accomplish the same amount of work
...how is that more efficient?...Because the implication is that if you don't start working 10 hours a day instead of 8, your next....Sometimes I really hate my industry. Artists and programmers are just treaded like shit way too often.
Sorry to hear about those poor guys loosing there jobs.
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Actually, the "database" was a business decision.
SOE had a deal with Oracle(I believe it was), and despite that their database was not suited for gaming, the suits made sure that it was used. And since the deal was a bad one, SWG could only use limited database space, since if they went over, with even 1 KB in database size, SOE would have to upgrade the database package.
So, Raph was not to blame for SOE using a database not suitable for gaming, nor the issues that came from that, and that they had to cut alot of the game that used the database extensively. The blame lies solely on the suites..aka Smedley and his goons.
If SOE needed to cut costs, they should push John Smedley out the door. He's cost them more revenue than he could ever be worth. Besides, he would have more time to play WoW while he waits out this recession. Of course he would probably think that Teldrassil is the coolest area of the game.
There is some reason that when someone disagrees with you they are a "troll"?
Neither of us have any facts regarding Koster's role in the release of SWG, only opinions. I am entitled to mine.
You can trust me with your secrets. Think of me as a wrinkled safe.
correction, you misunderstand how mmorpgs are developed and blame some random guy with the word "lead" in his job description.
What i just listed, and an opinion are not the same 2 things.
EDIT: i think you're a troll because of lines like: "Sorry if I offended any Raph sympathizers...NOT."
and the fact that you have no clue what your talking about, but you're still going off and repeating that you blame raph. The only opinions i see in your posts, is the highlighted portion, and the fact you think raph is to blame for SWG's problems.
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That's true..I do blame Raph Koster.
"fact - a piece of information about circumstances that exist or events that have occurred".
Unless you know for a FACT that Koster did not agree with the "early" release of SWG or that he had no part of the deplorable design, you have only an opinion.
I agree with pleasure to the "Troll" portion of your comments. One does not prevail in debate by insisting that your opponent is less skilled in the art than oneself without presenting proof of your superior knowledge coupled with proof of my lack of knowledge.
You can trust me with your secrets. Think of me as a wrinkled safe.
as i cant find any old SWG related news links, i'll link http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Galaxies
And again you dont understand ..... game designers dont have much of a say in when a game is released..... The people who run studios and finance the game do. In that link, LEC/SOE announced an expansion 2 years before the game was even released, what kind of company does that? And how can you not see that as rushing? Anyways, i'll leave you to your ignorance, even with evidence i'm sure your expert knowledge of SWG should be enough, well that plus the covering of your ears and shouting lalalala over and over will help keep you closed from rational thought as well.
EDIT: and i think i get now why newer people would think the lead designer should take blame. With all these new small/indy game studios creating mmo's that crash and burn, its usually the lead designer that takes the fall (Gaute Godager, Tasos, etc). Lol you might want to use that logic for smaller game companys. But game companys run by big corporations such as LEC and SOE, things are much different then 60 guys working out of a abandoned warehouse and a small budget.
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I guess Free Realms isn't doing as well as they wouldn't like us to believe.
LOL, my thoughts exactly.
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