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How on earth is this game rated lower than WAR?
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I have no idea, War was the biggest disappointment in mmo history.
Because at the release of a game, the fanbois all rush to rate the game they love(without having played it) as high as possible. This happens with every game. Then, the normal people play the game, and rate it. After that, the majority of people don't go back and change their ratings. So even though you think that AoC is better than WAR NOW(I don't know haven't played either since launch), the majority of people, myself included, thought WAR was a better game than AoC at when they both launched. Does that help?
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
Dunno, but it would be frickin sweet if they would open the damn trials back up already. Tried the trial before and my vid card was kinda on the low end making my AoC experience suck, but the new gtx 260 is installed now and looking for something to do.
Currently Playing: Toying around with AoC and bored with Darkfall
Thinking of Playing: Fallen Earth or Darkfall after this months update.
Have Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, Vanguard, EvE, Requiem, PW, Lotro, Lineage2, AoC, SWG...
Go to google.
Type in "Fileplanet AoC trial"
Enjoy.
well two things.
While WAR is indeed a very flawed game, their launch, and the early levels are very fun and the launch was very good.
as people quit due to finding out they were the people who got the major crash problems (my reason for quitting) found out how to abuse the pvp system, and generally saw that the 1 faction vs 1 faction could never deliver the interest that a 3 faction system could... they didnt change their rating.
then you have AoC's launch..... which was like a late term abortion that some how made it....... people were pissed right out the gate and rated the game low.
now they wont bother going back despite all accounts that AoC is finally starting to actually be a decent game.
This guy pretty much hit the nail on the head. I played both from launch and WAR was a much much better game than AoC at launch. Tortage was fun but it got repetitive after Tortage and the quests even dried up.
I haven't played AoC since launch, I would play the veteran trial but I was put off by the 3GB patch... no thanks... I can download the whole of EVE Online (2GB) in less time...
Maybe AoC is better now, but I personally think WAR is better.
MMOs played (In order of how much I've liked them): Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, Vanguard, City of Villains / Heroes, Guild Wars, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, Tabula Rasa, Anarchy Online, Ryzom, Final Fantasy XI, Matrix Online, RF Online, Rappelz, Hero Online, Roma Victor
Going by the number of boxes sold and accounts canceled within the free month I would have to rate AoC as the number one and Vanguard #2 disappointments in MMO history. Not saying WAR did not suck, I personally removed it from my machine the same day I installed it, but to give the devil it's due, WAR did manage to hold on to it's subscribers a lot longer than AoC and Vanguard did.
That being said I rated AoC at least twice as high as I did WAR. just checked and I rated Vanguard higher LOL and everyone knows how much I dislike that game
I miss DAoC
There is about 90% of your answer OP. (Yes opinion but I wish I could express mine as well as Abrahmm did).
Add to this that at least some of us "Euro-geeks" were hoping that FC had learned something, that we KNEW GOA would mess up WAR in EU and... well, looking back FC managed to beat GOA in the underachievement department...
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Going by the number of boxes sold and accounts canceled within the free month I would have to rate AoC as the number one and Vanguard #2 disappointments in MMO history. Not saying WAR did not suck, I personally removed it from my machine the same day I installed it, but to give the devil it's due, WAR did manage to hold on to it's subscribers a lot longer than AoC and Vanguard did.
That being said I rated AoC at least twice as high as I did WAR. just checked and I rated Vanguard higher LOL and everyone knows how much I dislike that game
Man. It is a sad state of affairs when we've come to measuring how long games hold on to a significant amount of players in a factor of months. And not 6-9 months or a year, but 2-3 months and in a growing degree, the first free month.
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Both War and AoC are flawed, fun for a little while but quickly grow boring, for me WAR is fun for alot longer than Aoc though, 3 weeks for AOC, 6-8 weeks for WAR playing pretty hardcore. At least war has the advantage that alts are more fun and varied because of 6 hugely different starting areas. Try and play 6 characters on AOC and you'd be sliting your wrists on your 4th time through tortage.
i played WAR and AoC ...for me AoC is better
Going by the number of boxes sold and accounts canceled within the free month I would have to rate AoC as the number one and Vanguard #2 disappointments in MMO history. Not saying WAR did not suck, I personally removed it from my machine the same day I installed it, but to give the devil it's due, WAR did manage to hold on to it's subscribers a lot longer than AoC and Vanguard did.
That being said I rated AoC at least twice as high as I did WAR. just checked and I rated Vanguard higher LOL and everyone knows how much I dislike that game
Man. It is a sad state of affairs when we've come to measuring how long games hold on to a significant amount of players in a factor of months. And not 6-9 months or a year, but 2-3 months and in a growing degree, the first free month.
Now ain't that the truth.
I miss DAoC
Go to google.
Type in "Fileplanet AoC trial"
Enjoy.
Thanks, installed and updating at the moment
Currently Playing: Toying around with AoC and bored with Darkfall
Thinking of Playing: Fallen Earth or Darkfall after this months update.
Have Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, Vanguard, EvE, Requiem, PW, Lotro, Lineage2, AoC, SWG...
well, atleast it has been increasing its rating. Back around christmas it was at 7.28 or something, not its at 7.66
Originally posted by BishopB:
Are a lot of the trolls just angry kids with old gaming hardware?
I completely agree. I find it strange that with both AOC and WAR the fun part ended after about 2 months (3 weeks for AOC at launch time, dunno if it would be longer if I freshly started it now), while I played Anarchy Online for 4 years. I can't decide if that's because I was a newbie at MMOs when I started playing AO or just because AOC and WAR are boring games.
They should both be rated equally low in my book. Since both failed to keep my interest after reaching max level in a few months.
Interestingly, both suffer from similar awfull design decisions;
- Lack of excitement in pvp due to having no substantial penalties to dying while using pvp or rvr as main selling points.
- The use of world geography to herd players, rather than challenge them; world feeling like a maze rather than a free to roam, vast and most most of all, WHOLE world.
- Lack of interesting alternative gameplay options.
- Loads of superficial elements like channeling and dedicated player city zones in AOC and dedicated and repetitive RVR and questing area's in WAR.
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They are both as bad as each other in my opinion. Both games are laughing stocks on other game forums, and AoC has replaced the word failure in the gaming dictionary im afraid.
That said im sure many poeple in both games still enjoy playing them. So each to their own.
The reason WAR never got the same negative comments and ratings was because everyone was still nagging about Age of Conan. It was and still is like people wanted Age of Conan to fail and took every opportunity to break it down, while everyone turned a blind eye on the WAR problems.
Age of Conan had a far better launch than Warhammer Online. Much less server issues, while WAR had quite some lag, crashes and stupid queue's. Both AoC and WAR suffered from performance issues, and yes, AoC had more of them, but AoC has top-notch graphics, while WAR has completely out-dated graphics. I think having performance issues with a game like WAR is a lot worse than with a game like AoC, at least you get nice graphics in return for the latter...
And, in AoC most people managed to get to lvl 40 before they quit the game because of lack of content, in WAR most people got bored before reaching lvl 20...
Honestly, the only reason why WAR didn't get the same negative critics as AoC was because when WAR launched people were bashing the lack of lvl 50 and 80 content in AoC. The real negative critics and drops in subs came at that time, while WAR got hit by the subs dropping a lot faster.
I quit AoC myself and I'm so burned-out of it that I'm probably never going back to it, but WAR was so utterly flawed and boring once you got past the first 15 lvl's, I'm certain I'm never going back there. Both games deserve a lower rating, but WAR definitely deserves a lower rating than Conan.
The things AoC did bad, WAR often did even worse, so it's not really fair that it's AoC that's gotten in the fail dictionnary and not WAR. Definitely now that AoC seems to be improving each day and regaining popularity and respect, while WAR is still the same..
Look at the 1.5 patch for AoC, everyone was "this is the patch that will be a matter of life and death for the game, it has to be good". It's got huge attention from players and press, with often people almost hoping it's going to fail. But at the same time WAR launched their Land of the Death patch, a patch that's just as crucial for that game's future as Gangs of Tarantia for AoC. But again, everyone turns a blind eye on it.
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It's simple, more ppl think War is a better product than AoC. You may not agree but as it stands now, War is "still" at #4. AoC is still struggling to get past its poor release, where War had a relatively smooth release and didn't suffer from so much bad press. War still maintains 200-300k population where AoC has about half that, and ppl speak with their wallets. I know it may be hard for you to believe but there are actually ppl that like War over AoC.............crazy, ain't it?
Because WAR was a train wreck but AoC was a train the size of an asteroid destroying the earth. It sucked.
There are more AoC haters than WAR haters... hence it's lower... although they're probably Funcom haters...
Wow captain obvious. Good story.
The endgame in AoC was terrible but there was no endgame in WAR which I personally think is worse. Both games had disgusting itemization. Remember the days of there actually being unique loot and not 1 set per class per tier. Remember EQ where you actually get loot occasionally that you never heard of like the FBSS, SBB, executioners axe, lamentation, etc. Now it is Warrior set boots 1, Warrior set boots 2, Warrior set boots 3. WAR endgame gear was just another set that you had to get from Lost Vale which was incredibly buggy and random. I ran it about 5 times and finished it 2 times before I quit and I still haven't seen one piece of set gear for my class.