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Whats bothering me....
tu_uilwen
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ok I am sick of both WoW and EQ2 fanbois.....
I am a WoW player but I want to try EQ2 ok.....
now look I am sick of you guys bashing games that your not even gonna try and play.....I eman how can you judge a game if you haven't ever even seen it run. AND.....let me guess all of you guys go by people opinions and reviews right?
ok TRY IT FOR YOUR SELF........plenty of people say games are bad then i try them and I love them....some say some games are good nd I hate them...everyone has there own opinion and every one needs to test things out then express there opinion....I mean seriously....
and no I am not taking sides with wow or eq2 fanbois because I play wow and I want to try eq2......
but people...PLEASE TRY GAMES FOR YOUESELF BEFORE YOU JUDGE....its so annoying....
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"Everyones life has a beginning and an end, No one can change that."-Hiko
"If you wish to taste the ground, then feel free to attack."-Kenshin Himura
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you cant tell.
How do you know if the person complaining didnt just read something, and thats why he thinks a game sucks, The same can be said of the opposite thing. welcome to the internet where everybody can lie.
But why people feel that is their responsability to "defend" a game, why is it that people think that is some kind of war going on between eq2 and wow and they must take sides???(does someone needs to get a life, i think so).
Seriusly, who cares if someones bash your game, for example i really like world of warcraft, but if someones make a post that says, world of warcrap sucks!, am i going to be angry and i threat the person and call him a fanboi and whatever?? no, i have my opinion because i have played the game...so it doesnt matter, do you think that people are gonna see a post saying, game x sucks, then inmediatly he is gonna cancel that game x preorder??, i dont think so, Most people are not that stupid(most).
So you dont have to "defend" a game, and if you give your opinion, then great, but you are not getting new customers or detracting people of playing the rival game...
So lets stop with this nonsense.
You can see that some fanboys are just reading the forums and every game forum is full of immature posts about issus in the game. They take those issus and say : This game sux because...
Anyway whats the point in comparing games or b*tching a game ?
If you dont like it dont play it.
Some people cant accept that we all have different taste and that there is no true answer to : wich is the best ? mmorpg A or mmorpg B ? for some B is better, for other A is better.
Its like arguing over wich Band is the best band on earth...
*giggles*
I plan to try many many many games, but I certainly hope to hear the bashing against all the games as well.
Others perceptions can be a tool, and used wisely it can help you enjoy or leave the game asap, if used unproperly, it will becomes chains.
Or have you so little self-confidence that you might actually not play a game because peoples hate it even if you want to try it?
If someone is angry at any game and they feel better to throw their opinions, they will be more then welcome to do it even if I may very well argue.
And yes, Warcrap is not deemed worthy of been played at the current moment. I see peoples with little intelect even trying to insult other peoples personnally because they dislike a game, I have no time for those losers which need everyone to praise their gaming choices! I give my copy of warcrap freely, feeling it would be wrong to charge a friend for THAT!
Go ahead, flame me if you want, go to the front and defend those companies, but guess what, they dont care either if you defend them or not as a whole. Yes, some staff may care, but the company is above that, they care in the amoung of sells, nothing else, and it is fine. 
If nobody complain, then they wont improve, which mean they rather have flames then praises on a neutral ground like here(improving = more sells). On their boards, it need to be like publicity you listen at 4h AM: ''Oh, I try Warcrap last month and it change my existence'' with tons of fake emotes. I dont even deemed Warcrap worthy of elaborating my flames, now that is bad!
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
1- I've played WoW, its not my cup of tea. Some people like WoW and I respect that.
2- I work at tech support, there is two ways to report an issu : A- You just state the fact and the cie's support listen to you. B- You act like an immature 10 years old and the cie's support dont give a damn... Or worse you insult the tech support and the guy starts messing with your account :P (hahaha I never did that ....
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*start crying as I need your support for my self estim*
LOL...I respect the fact that peoples like WoW. I dont care if WoW evolve or not. I smile at peoples that defend the ''dont flames'' attitude. Defend all you want.
I will be happy to read every flames, serious or not. 
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I'd Just like to state a few differences between WOW, and EQ2.
. Just one example. I have studied WOW, but not EQ2, so maybe I'm wrong and should take a closer look on the EQ2 Website!
I haven't played either, so excuse me if I'm wrong about a few things.
It is obvious, That BOTH games are good, just in different zones.
EQ2 is for the more ''advanced'' MMORPG gamers, who like chalenges, WOW, is quite fun also, but not a challenge for advanced players (I believe) . It is however, a very good game for people who do not have much experience, or would just like to have fun, hang and chat.
For instance: WOW has a small assortiment of selectable races, wich makes it easier to pick one, just compare the ''few'' weaknesses, and strengths. However, It could be quite confusing for a new MMORPG gamer, to select a race, and build a good, solid character in EQ2.
My opinion is that EQ2, is for the player who looks for a real challenge, and WOW, just for the fun loving player, who would just like to have fun. I do not mean to say that EQ2 players dont like fun, or that WOW players are noobs, I myself am a (soon to be) WOW player as it is only my 3rd MMORPG, and I just wanna have a bunch of fun, sneaking up on new players in druidic bear form, and let them think I'm a monster
Schiznea
I thought the post was about Fanboys, not about comparing WoW and EQ2... I think it was debated more then enough on this board... this is getting ridiculous.
It is much more simple then that.
EQ2 is like been part of a Japanese company. The guild is everything, the individual is nothing.
WoW is a mixt of EQ and DAoC, they intent adding the challenge with the expensions in a form similar to old EQ. WoW is the product of Afterlife desire, simply and purely, a easy progress for the non-raiding aspect(it is not worth more anyway by Afterlife standards to waste time grouping or soloing), then, add some raiding content. So under noobs friendly garbs, it is the agenda of Afterlife that WoW embrace, for the better and for the worst.
- "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
actually you cant expect people to buy every game this day and age where so many crap games come out(prematurely, buggy, etc.), not everyone has $50 to blow on a game they cant return after opening(x 2 if we're talking about WoW and EQ2), and people will, like it or not, need to get opinions about games from forums or review sites. Forums especially do these people a service, especially when theirs debate between fans of both games. The problemm with alot of the back and forth here is most people dont support what they say with examples from how both games are, they make statements like 'EQ2 sucks' or 'WoW sucks' and thats that. I've been hoping to get a debate going with one of the EQ2 fans of how WoW is so much more dumbed down, or has no depth in comparison to EQ2, but no EQ2 fan seems to want to do it
Regardless, nobody forces you to click and read those threads, its your own voluntary choice to get upset over them. What annoys me is when people blame others for their own issues. Furthermore, people should realize where their taste in games stand, if you liked EQ1 and maybe UO1, or stuff like DAOC or AO, you will probably fit in with the taste of the masses. So you can probably take popular opinion as close to what your looking for. If you liked games like Horizons, Ryzom, etc., then your either probably part of a niche, or just have poor taste in games where there arent many people with the same tastes you do, and probably shouldnt go by popular opinion. And if you really want to get a reccomendation that caters to your preference, you can describe your preferences like the PvP thread below, and i'm sure people that have played alot of them can reccomend what might be best.
Sure, nobody knows what games are great until they try them, but nobody is going to buy every game on the market to find out
Thats why word of mouth is important, its also important to deter premature releases, poor customer support, etc. to keep poorly released games from being purchased, so companies know they cant get away with that shit anymore like they used to. I think WoW and EQ2 did much better in that area than mmorpg's have in the past.
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Furthermore, people should realize where their taste in games stand, if you liked EQ1 and maybe UO1, or stuff like DAOC or AO, you will probably fit in with the taste of the masses. So you can probably take popular opinion as close to what your looking for. If you liked games like Horizons, Ryzom, etc., then your either probably part of a niche, or just have poor taste in games where there arent many people with the same tastes you do, and probably shouldnt go by popular opinion. And if you really want to get a reccomendation that caters to your preference, you can describe your preferences like the PvP thread below, and i'm sure people that have played alot of them can reccomend what might be best.
What do you think is the best music :
The Pixies or Britney Spears ?
Im proud of not being a part of the masses, the masses have no taste, they like artificial flavors and looks.
If you cant build your own opinion, i feel sorry for you.
You can easily see if a game might be good for you by looking at the main website to see what the game has to offer. Its a shame if you need others opinions...
I've tested WoW because it offered some of the things i like in a mmorpg, I didnt test EQ2 because I dont want a PvE game. I didnt need anyones opinion.
Exactly.
looks llike the fanbois have entered the thread andare starting their crap as usual. These idiot are the worst plague on forums.. they think they are smart and intellectual, yet have barely reached puberty. But even worst than a fanboi is a trolling fanboi, one who choses topics based on a game that he knows jack shit about, cept that it might infringe on his/her/it's game... and craps all over the topic at hand.. like these idiots who are attempting to derail a good thread.
If you're sick of it, then stop reading the posts.
Nothing you try to do will stop people from posting their thoughts, however vitrioloic they may be. So learn to stop paying attention.
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hat do you think is the best music :
The Pixies or Britney Spears ?
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not a fan of either, but make no mistake Brittney Spears has a huge audience regardless of how much you and i may think shes a terrible singer. There is something that she does thats more appealing to more people than other pop singers. I think Brittney Spears would be the equivalent to a Pokemon mmorpg, or even maybe Hello Kitty, which could also have huge audiences, and while it may not be our cup of tea, you cant argue with the people interested in that type of game. I cant fault the SIM's even tho i think its a stupid game, because it does draw alot of people and must have something that appeals to more people than other games do, especially the smaller ones in the same genre. People also know Brittney appeals to a teeny bopper girly audience, so theres alot said for the category or type in terms of entertainer or game.
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Im proud of not being a part of the masses, the masses have no taste, they like artificial flavors and looks.
If you cant build your own opinion, i feel sorry for you.
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dont feel sorry for me, since i definitely do form my own opinion while factoring in others as well. The problem is when one person is so egocentric to believe his opinion is the end all be all over the masses, and pretends to think the masses have poor taste while their minority opinion is in 'good' taste. It contradicts the whole idea of 'good' taste and 'bad' taste. Would you honestly have someone with minority opinions writing official reviews to the masses? or giving advice to most gamers? Of course not, because the probabilities are, the masses in general wont agree with the guy that is constantly in favor of games the minority enjoys. Again and i cant emphasize this enough, the problem is people who have a niche taste, or poor taste in games that dont see the big picture, and they tend to think they are right while the masses are wrong. They cant see where their opinion stands in the big picture of things which determines it being 'good' or 'bad', and always assume their opinion is the right one. The masses disagreeing with that opinion contradicts it being the 'right' one or at the very least them having the 'good' opinion on games, while the masses have the 'bad'. Hope that made sense, since it was kinda hard to put into words what i was trying to say~
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You can easily see if a game might be good for you by looking at the main website to see what the game has to offer. Its a shame if you need others opinions...
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You cant possibly be this naive. You mean you actually take the propaganda spouted on official websites for games as EXACTLY how the game is? lol, guess your not one to want to hear the downsides to anything then, cuz they sure as hell arent going to be telling you the full truth. I'll just say thats a VERY poor way of getting an idea of a game, probably the worst way you can do it, and i'd take other peoples opinions which have both good and bad, rather than the propaganda placed on a website to sell you the game
Anyhow, the problem is people are generally egocentric and rarely look at things in terms of the big picture. That is why people who have minority opinions on things tend to think everyone else is stupid for playing a game like WoW or EQ2, and not some small niche game they like. The big picture would suggest the masses disagree and that is just a niche opinion or 'bad' opinion.
I used this example before, but Horizons is the best one i can think of. For how bad this game was, and i'm sure MANY people here will attest to that, there were people who thought it was one of the best mmorpg's ever to come out. Do you explain that as them being right? as them having bad taste in games? or the politically correct answer that its both the best mmorpg to come out and the worst?
you dont have much common sense do you? Considering this whole thread is about WoW and EQ2
Let alone being very hypocritical condescending others for *thinking' their intellectuals, and yet you write like an angry 4th grader
If your going to act 'above' others, at least act like it when you write what you have to write, acting beneath the people you criticize makes your entire point a joke.
Imo the worst plague on the forums are the ones that want to force everyone to read and talk about games barely anyone but them cares about. Theres a reason why the EQ2 and WoW threads stay at the top, end up the longest, and are rehashed often in many different ways. And theres also a reason why some of the people who play smaller games that act like their the greatest and should be stickied at the top get all upset over WoW and EQ2 being the center of discussion
2- The masses follow the stronger propagandha, WoW and EQ2 are proof, Britney Spears is a proof, McDonalds is, Bush is .... I know my vision looks egocentric and elitist, I couldnt care less. I build my opinions by experimentation, if I havent tryed something I wont say anything about it.
3- No im not this naive : I take what you call "propagandha" and judge what kind of game it is, i know my personnal taste in mmorpgs so I can see if a game is suppose to be the type of game i like. Then, if the game appeals to me, i buy the game and give it a try. If I dont like the game I stop playing and sell it, loosing 50$ - 75$ wont make me poor. This way I can build my own opinion by testing games that appeals to me.
A game website or a forum thread about that game are both a form of propagandha.
4- There is no use in looking at the big picture when choosing between A or B. If a majority of the population prefer apples to oranges, does this mean I should eat apples ?
5- I dont explain this and there is no use in explaining. If you dont like it dont play it.
lol
just try to play eq2..it roxx
i think the best mmorpg what i played )
SoR is cheaper ( only grafics are cool) gameplay is boring
eq2 isnt perfect..but fun..with all queststs..funy NPCs
i play planetside for pvp
only 21 $ for both
i can remember i payed 21$ monthly to play such bs game like AO
Hehe my favorite Fanboy :P
Your so funny, always a Fanboy of the game you are currently playing and switched games many times :P
I dont want to try EQ2 because i dont want a PvE only game... i think it simple to understand, well.... maybe not for you :P
Money is not a factor for me.
i told u planetside for PvP
or theris any real PvP in SoR?)) dont make me laugh))
btw i was kinda GW funboy ( what u sayd)
now im EQ fanboy?
i play for fan...if its fan i play..if dont..i dont play..its simle like bonjour
I play for FUN too and im having lots of fun in SoR.
Duels are a form of PvP
GvG is a form of PvP
Arenas are a from of PvP
Faction based PvP is a form of PvP
Those are all in game now.
Anyway this thread is not about SoR and your just proving im right if you start bashing SoR....
Play whatever game you like, i dont care. I can respect your taste, can you ?
ok..but isnt impemented) and i think i can say it one yeahr long
u r nice guy..but funny)
i post bs only if server is down
planetside is a bit boring too..isnt that q3 ersatz
in planetside no twitch sqills needed
and damn q3 was the coolest online game..my first online game
where is Q3 with "persistand?" world?
and all mmorpgs with that lvl kind of pvp sucked..best gear highest lvl ..not gimped ( overpowered) char wins..not ur reaction ..
FPS games do something good ..they train ur reaction..and the greend for pvp makes u asleep)
and eq2 servers are still friggin down
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ok..but isnt impemented) and i think i can say it one yeahr long
u r nice guy..but funny)
i post bs only if server is down
planetside is a bit boring too..isnt that q3 ersatz
in planetside no twitch sqills needed
and damn q3 was the coolest online game..my first online game
where is Q3 with "persistand?" world?
and all mmorpgs with that lvl kind of pvp sucked..best gear highest lvl ..not gimped ( overpowered) char wins..not ur reaction ..
FPS games do something good ..they train ur reaction..and the greend for pvp makes u asleep)
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LOL my first language is french and I'm sure everyone thinks its easier to understand my post then yours....
Any way I think you said PvP wasnt implemented in Ryzom. It is, since december 14.
Again you are proving im right.