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Faith based politics vs Hope based politics

Is there even a difference? Really?

Maybe we should seriously consider getting leaders that don't require self delusion as the foundation for positive advancement.

 

 

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  • windstrike1windstrike1 Member Posts: 553

    The Two Party Dictatorship (Because we're that dumb)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJnBI_ifSK0

     

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by windstrike1

    Is there even a difference? Really?


    Yes.

    Faith based is believing something to be true that you haven't actually seen but you somehow KNOW to be true anyways even though you can't actually prove it to anyone else.

    Hope based is believing in something you THINK could be true even though you can't actually prove it to anyone.

    One presumes things can get better, the other presumes things WILL get better because of God.

  • EkibiogamiEkibiogami Member UncommonPosts: 2,154
    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by windstrike1
     
    Is there even a difference? Really?



     

    Yes.

     

     

    Faith based is believing something to be true that you haven't actually seen but you somehow KNOW to be true anyways even though you can't actually prove it to anyone else.

     

     

    Hope based is believing in something you THINK could be true even though you can't actually prove it to anyone.

     

     

     

    One presumes things can get better Because of God, the other presumes things WILL get better because of Obama.

     

     

     

     

    Fixed.

     

    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
    —Samuel Adams

  • devilisciousdeviliscious Member UncommonPosts: 4,359

    LOL no differnce , except who they believe is going to save them. ROFL

  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162
    Originally posted by Ekibiogami

    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by windstrike1
     
    Is there even a difference? Really?



     

    Yes.

     

     

    Faith based is believing something to be true that you haven't actually seen but you somehow KNOW to be true anyways even though you can't actually prove it to anyone else.

     

     

    Hope based is believing in something you THINK could be true even though you can't actually prove it to anyone.

     

     

     

    One presumes things can get better Because of God, the other presumes things WILL get better because God works through Obama as he works through everyone.

     

     

     

     

    Fixed.

     



     

    Now it's truly fixed

  • protorocprotoroc Member Posts: 1,042
    Originally posted by Ekibiogami

    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by windstrike1
     
    Is there even a difference? Really?

     

     

    Yes.

     

     

    Faith based is believing something to be true that you haven't actually seen but you somehow KNOW to be true anyways even though you can't actually prove it to anyone else.

     

     

    Hope based is believing in something you THINK could be true even though you can't actually prove it to anyone.

     

     

     

    One presumes things can get better Because of God, the other presumes things WILL get better because of Obama.

     

     

     

     

    Fixed.

     

     

    Wow dude, that's just an absolutely pathetic troll attempt, why don't you try to bait him harder next time.

  • SabiancymSabiancym Member UncommonPosts: 3,150

    Faith = wishing David Copperfield or some other magician performs a miracle to solve a problem.

    Hope = wishing for other people to join yourself in solving problems.

     

    At least that's how I see it.

  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    So since Obama is God or the Messiah we have nothing to worry about! He is are only hope just like are children iz learning! He will bring about change we all have been hoping for and protect us from the evil doers that hate are freedums!

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359
    Originally posted by Sabiancym


    Faith = wishing David Copperfield or some other magician performs a miracle to solve a problem.
    Hope = wishing for other people to join yourself in solving problems.
     
    At least that's how I see it.

    How about one who has faith in hope? Hmmm?

  • kazmokazmo Member Posts: 715

    There may be a difference between hope and faith, but there is absolutely no difference between Blind Faith and Blind Hope in the political spectrum. Massive sweeping unidentified change brought upon by folks blindly "Hoping" and agressively nodding to Obama's every step and smile.



    If you don't agree with Obama, you're a hater.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by Dekron

    How about one who has faith in hope? Hmmm?


    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"(Heb.11:1).


    I'm sure you'll appreciate that one considering your views.

  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359
    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by Dekron
     
    How about one who has faith in hope? Hmmm?

     

    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"(Heb.11:1).



    I'm sure you'll appreciate that one considering your views.

    I'm not a Christian, I am a Deist. Nice try though.

    I think you took my post the wrong way - I was trying to add some humor, but I suppose it failed. Hrmph.

  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    I think they are both dumb things to base your decisions on, quite literally too.  Wouldn't it be better to be Fact and Logic based?

  • windstrike1windstrike1 Member Posts: 553
    Originally posted by Cleffy


    I think they are both dumb things to base your decisions on, quite literally too.  Wouldn't it be better to be Fact and Logic based?

     



    Somehow I doubt the next election cycle is going to be between a candadite running on the Facts platform, running against the Logic platform. More likely it will be Pray Hard vs Just Trust Me!

     

     

  • Squirt5Squirt5 Member Posts: 201

    I think it would be interesting to stop electing lawyers and career politicians and instead elect someone such as a physicist, mathematician, chemist, or even a biologist.

    Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man. -- Bertrand Russell

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