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Stop whining about the casualization of FF

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  • Eagler777Eagler777 Member Posts: 89

    Yeah I think this thread needs to end.  After reading this, it was never about casual blah blah.. it was a fanboi of WoW trying to make himself feel better about wasting time in the cartoon.. WoW.  With that said, if you are a WoW fanboi, and have nothing good to say about FF, then leave us alone.  We will play our more skilled games with our more skilled and mature community, you can sit at the kids table playing your cartoons, and stop trying to butt in on the grown-up conversations :D

  • RamenThief7RamenThief7 Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by renshu77


    I keep reading over and over on these forums about how SE is going to "dumb down" the game make it less "hardcore".
    OMG WTF their making it more solo friendly. OMG we might have to take off our masochist outfits and stop driving nails through our eyes, because we won't be forced into killing the same exact mob one at a time for 5 hours to lvl. /slitwrists my life is over.
    Since when was HARDCORE only associated with jinormous time sinks? People in FF11 consider themselfs to be awsome and harcore because they have a lvl 75. My little brother who is 8 and has been playing since he was 6 has done everything in the game and has reached lvl 75. How? because hes 8 and has nothing else to do.
    The end game content of this game is a joke. Zerg fest hit spells at a rate so slow even the most mentally challenged of our society can manage and yet people still consider this game challenging and requiring 1337 skill sets. The quests don't tell you where to go that is true. However, even my brother can read a player guide online. As im sure much of  the FF11 player base has done.
    PLZ i am begging the FF11 fainbois to stop making comparisons of FF11 to wow. Or at the very least stop saying wow has no hardcore aspect to it. I am sure 90% if not more of the people making these claims don't have a 5v5 team over the 2k rating. Or have full cleared everything in the game.
    And yes i played this game for a few months a while back. However, i could never get myself into enjoying masochism or the monotony of spending a massive amount of time to put a group together just to go spend the rest of my day in the same spot killing the same mob one at a time.

    Yellow Shaded part: The reason why us hardcore group people hate the idea of more solo aspects inside FF XIV is that if FF XIV wishes to entice the original FF XI fanbase over, then adding more solo aspects is really not going to do just that. No one groups just for what you said there, boyo. We group to have fun, to visit, to serve an important role inside a party. And yes, there is mob camping, but doing that while listening to something funny that happened to someone in their real life is always enjoyable.

    Green shaded part: I agree with you, because there is very little to compare FF XI to WOW with the exception of base mechanics.

    1. Death penalties: WOW is a slap on the wrist. FF XI makes you lose a ton of experience, and did I mention you can delevel?

    2. WOW is casual. FFXI is hardcore. WOW has very few hardcore aspect at all. FF XI has very few casual aspects at all. Both games succeeded and greatly profited their companies.

    3. FFXI is somewhat forced grouping. WOW is about grouping soloers together.

    I can't tell what you're going towards with this idea. Do you want the hardcores to stop speculating about what will happen if FF XIV will be less hardcore than FF XI? Or are you trying to get them all riled up even more?

  • Eagler777Eagler777 Member Posts: 89

    He is just mad because his little brother suceeded at a game he failed at, and in turn is trying to convince us that WoW is more hardcore than FFXI, because really he don't want to live up to the fact that his little 8 year old brother is more hardcore than him :D

  • johnspartanjohnspartan Member Posts: 172
    Originally posted by Inaya


    None of these things require you to be hardcore, but removing them would be “dumbing down” in my opinion:
    Anyone remember partying in Qufim and running back to Jeuno to feed the chocobo? Tedius travel? Sounds fun. Not much. I'd rather spend my time playing then waiting.
    I de-leveled and hit 75 twice on Kirin one night. Once I had to call a WHM from the LS to rescue me when the “Impossible to Gauge” NM spawned on the boat from the Dunes and killed me. I was lying dead on the dock ½ naked because I wasn’t of the level to wear most of my armor. I don't like being kicked in the nuts when something random and stupid happens and I have no option but death. I don't like being kicked in the nuts ever, actually.
    I don’t think WOW end game raiding guilds could begin to keep up with the HNMLS’s I knew. I’ve never seen a raiding guild sleep in shifts to beat a boss they had been fighting for 18 hours. Or have people “on call” to record TOD’s. Or log on at 2am to camp a king. That is the most ridiculous and stupid thing I have ever heard. 18 hour fights? 2am camping? Is this a game or a torture device? It's like they are trying to breed sleepless social misfit virgins.



     

    I've been around since UO was in Beta and I LOVED UO and wish I could find a game that brought anywhere near the level of simple enjoyment as UO once did...



    These things you describe sound like the same crap that made Everquest so unappealing to me and WoW so appealing after the fail-fest that was SWG pre-CU/NGE.



    You seem to confused "hardcore" and "stupid, terrible design decisions only an idiot would ever put into a game." 

    Your opinion is immaterial.

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