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This is why independent companies should not make MMO's

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  • OgrelinOgrelin Member Posts: 636

    MO isn't an Indie-studio, you should read up on what the term really mean.

    I just recently bought stocks in StarVault, they would NEVER be allowed on the stock exchange if they were not a serious company. I carefully looked true their numbers before deciding to buy. These guys got money...

    Nither is this game waporware, it's for real!

  • shaunathanshaunathan Member Posts: 73
    Originally posted by Ogrelin


    MO isn't an Indie-studio, you should read up on what the term really mean.
     

     

    Actually Star Vault is the Game Studio,  MO is the game.  You should choose your words carefully if you're going to be a snot.

     

    An independant Game Company is a game company without a game publisher backing them up.   I can't seem to find the name of a game publisher publishing this game.  Star Vault is publishing themselves.  That makes them an independant game studio.

     

    Other than that, you're spot on.  SV is a real company, they aren't fly by night, and are miles ahead of AV and Tassos' back yard operation.

  • ObamaonicsObamaonics Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by Genleo


    Starvault does not have the manpower to produce a full fantasy world MMO within the time period slated.  They most likely will not have this game out by the end of the year, and if it is you can expect another darkfail or AOC.
     
    Why would anyone trust a company with no reputation?? why give them 75 dollars or more...  They can't even get their page updated
     
    this company has never made a game before...so chances are this will be their first mistake.  Maybe in the future they will produce better games, but for now you are just paying so they can get money and make a real game.

     

    Genleo, your a troll. You started your stupidity crusade a year ago when you thought AoC would be a success. AoC is a prime example of a game developed by supposed knowledgeable folks, folks with manpower, but tanked, and tanked well; sever mergers, developers bailing, and Funcom begging for people to return.

     

    Maybe in the future Funcom will produce a better game, and you'll find that chromosome your missing, but SV hasn't done anything to warrant concern that is not unlike other established developers yet.

     

     

  • hovis8hovis8 Member Posts: 22

    How many wow clones are out there, loads.Darkfall, although with all its problems was a breath of fresh air for people that wanted worthwhile pvp and a change from the norm.Me personally i couldnt give two fucks about killing ten boars for a quest and moving on to the next mindless bullshit quest.

    I have played many mmos since pre-cu starwars (inc wow) and nothing came close to the buzz you got from the pvp in darkfall(swg pre-cu maybe:)),but thats my personal opinion.I have been playing aion for the last few weeks,(chineese release with english language pack)i thought it might offer something new ,how wrong was i total wank in every way.0-25 total mindless boredom as usual then to top it off at 25 you get to go into the abyss wahooooo its warhammer with fairies and ghay pvp.

    We need independent companies to think out side the box and make mmos different from the normal wow clone shite.I brought Darkfall and although i dont play anymore it was money well spent.I have payed for Mo and im sure it will be worth it but you know what,i would rather pay my cash to a company thats trying something new than to pay for yet another crap clone.

     

  • SwaneaSwanea Member UncommonPosts: 2,401

    I still can't understand putting money down on such an untested game/product/company.

     

    This seems less wise than gambling, and that is just throwing your money away.

     

    A well known company that has released games before, at least stands a very good chance of releasing a function product to spend money on for a beta.  Games such as this...I dunno.

  • AbrahmmAbrahmm Member Posts: 2,448
    Originally posted by Swanea


    I still can't understand putting money down on such an untested game/product/company.
     
    This seems less wise than gambling, and that is just throwing your money away.
     
    A well known company that has released games before, at least stands a very good chance of releasing a function product to spend money on for a beta.  Games such as this...I dunno.

     

    AoC and WAR beg to differ.

    Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
    Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
    Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
    Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
    Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546
    Originally posted by Genleo


    i was looking forward to this game actually. Im just pissed off that these european companies say they will have all these features in teh game and it will be great and out, and its all broken promises.
     
    I have heard on the official forums there are ZERO mobs in the game, You pretty much just run around doing nothing, and you can't even attack stuff because there is no attack animations.  This game is in alpha stage not beta.
     
    It wont be out at the end of the year for sure or probably ever, and im sick of these lies from stupid independent companies.



     

    The only thing they're saying will be in the game at launch is core features.

    Core features:

    Combat

    PvP

    Basic housing

    Crafting

    One continent.

    That's what they say will be in at release.

    Don't know what you're expecting.

    Sounds more like someone couldn't afford the box and is upset.

  • hovis8hovis8 Member Posts: 22
    Originally posted by Swanea


    I still can't understand putting money down on such an untested game/product/company.
     
    This seems less wise than gambling, and that is just throwing your money away.
     
    A well known company that has released games before, at least stands a very good chance of releasing a function product to spend money on for a beta.  Games such as this...I dunno.

     

    Il risk 50 quid on a game,if it fails i loose 50 quid no big deal.

  • ObamaonicsObamaonics Member Posts: 33
    Originally posted by Swanea


    I still can't understand putting money down on such an untested game/product/company.
     
    This seems less wise than gambling, and that is just throwing your money away.
     
    A well known company that has released games before, at least stands a very good chance of releasing a function product to spend money on for a beta.  Games such as this...I dunno.

     

    Swanea, you’re as much an adolescent half-wit that supports an established development team with supposed talent which does nothing but release a ¼ baked game like WAR with so much redundancy and content-less game-play that it’ll make you go mad.

    You supported that, by a well known company that has developed games before, a game with comments from you like “Blows any game out right now, out of the water. Its so awesome.” Ohh…such a blonde girl-ish thing to say about a product which took a huge nose-dive after 2-months, with that dev-team scrambling to justify their experiment and some leaving on the heels of empty servers.

    Many will gladly give an indie development team that pushes development with the support and direction of ‘players’, like SV and Mortal Online, rather than listen to a sheep like you that can’t justify support for a failed endeavor at the hands of your supposed ‘experienced’ development team.

     

  • FreedomBladeFreedomBlade Member UncommonPosts: 281
    Originally posted by Genleo


    Starvault does not have the manpower to produce a full fantasy world MMO within the time period slated.  They most likely will not have this game out by the end of the year, and if it is you can expect another darkfail or AOC.
     
    Why would anyone trust a company with no reputation?? why give them 75 dollars or more...  They can't even get their page updated
     
    this company has never made a game before...so chances are this will be their first mistake.  Maybe in the future they will produce better games, but for now you are just paying so they can get money and make a real game.
     
     

    However you will find that Adventurine suceeded in making Darkfall, it is a totally amazing game compared to all the shitty point and clicky MMOs out there and Adventurine are an independant company.

     

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  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460
    Originally posted by FreedomBlade

    Originally posted by Genleo


    Starvault does not have the manpower to produce a full fantasy world MMO within the time period slated.  They most likely will not have this game out by the end of the year, and if it is you can expect another darkfail or AOC.
     
    Why would anyone trust a company with no reputation?? why give them 75 dollars or more...  They can't even get their page updated
     
    this company has never made a game before...so chances are this will be their first mistake.  Maybe in the future they will produce better games, but for now you are just paying so they can get money and make a real game.
     
     

    However you will find that Adventurine suceeded in making Darkfall, it is a totally amazing game compared to all the shitty point and clicky MMOs out there and Adventurine are an independant company.

     

     

    I don't consider barely passing 1000 hours played on xfire, which is worse than the failure that is Age of Conan, a success.

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  • seeyouspacec0wboyseeyouspacec0wboy Member UncommonPosts: 714
    Originally posted by Genleo


    Well basically in the last year we had
    Funcom fail
    Aventurine SA fail
    and soon to be Starvault fail

     

    lol funcom is far from an indie company.

    and who cares man, at least these dudes are trying. you dont have invest time, apply for beta, pre order, or play at release.

    Originally posted by Scagweed22
    is it the graphics? the repetativenesses? i mean what is the point? you could be so much more productive in real life
    Real life brings repetition and pointlessness too. The only thing real life offers is Great graphics. Its kinda expensive too and way to dependent on the cash shop. Totally pay to win as well. No thank you. Ill stick to my games.

  • sumujisumuji Member Posts: 54

    Sucees in this genre is based on the number of subs to put it quite simply. From both a business and customer standpoint. MMORPG's are still a very small portion of the PC games market and most people that do play them are familiar with the what's out already and what's on the horizon. If a game is scraping the bottom of the subscriber base then there's a good reason for it and I surely wouldn't say it was successful no matter how much fun you have playing it. Even games that have been stamped as a failure by the MMO community and to the point where the doors should be be closed still have fans playing it and enjoying it.

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730
    Originally posted by FreedomBlade

    Originally posted by Genleo


    Starvault does not have the manpower to produce a full fantasy world MMO within the time period slated.  They most likely will not have this game out by the end of the year, and if it is you can expect another darkfail or AOC.
     
    Why would anyone trust a company with no reputation?? why give them 75 dollars or more...  They can't even get their page updated
     
    this company has never made a game before...so chances are this will be their first mistake.  Maybe in the future they will produce better games, but for now you are just paying so they can get money and make a real game.
     
     

    However you will find that Adventurine suceeded in making Darkfall, it is a totally amazing game compared to all the shitty point and clicky MMOs out there and Adventurine are an independant company.

     



     

    Darkfall is unmitigated garbage as an MMO.  The FPS nature of the game doesn't make it suck any less, or make it any less shallow.  It's a CS knifefight game in a persistent world.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • wizlmtzwizlmtz Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by Rohn

    Originally posted by FreedomBlade

    Originally posted by Genleo


    Starvault does not have the manpower to produce a full fantasy world MMO within the time period slated.  They most likely will not have this game out by the end of the year, and if it is you can expect another darkfail or AOC.
     
    Why would anyone trust a company with no reputation?? why give them 75 dollars or more...  They can't even get their page updated
     
    this company has never made a game before...so chances are this will be their first mistake.  Maybe in the future they will produce better games, but for now you are just paying so they can get money and make a real game.
     
     

    However you will find that Adventurine suceeded in making Darkfall, it is a totally amazing game compared to all the shitty point and clicky MMOs out there and Adventurine are an independant company.

     



     

    Darkfall is unmitigated garbage as an MMO.  The FPS nature of the game doesn't make it suck any less, or make it any less shallow.  It's a CS knifefight game in a persistent world.

    Well said. Darkfall wasnt a success, its a buggy, exploitfest. The best part of Darkfall is the following that game has. Self proclaimed hardcore players who are very quick to call others carebears. Especially if you critize the game for any of its flaws. Now thats hardcore.

     

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