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wowhuntard
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I copy-pasted this info from another WH community forum.
NA and AUS servers, join this protest!!!
After first checking we have the support of enough players on Karak-Norn to achieve a critical mass, I have made a similar post to the following on the forums of the currently active European English-speaking servers:
To Order and Destruction:
Monday 27th July, 7pm UK time / 8pm Server time:
Europe Stand Together!
Every Destruction player log a Magus on into Inevitable City.
Every Order player log a Shadow Warrior on into Altdorf.
Stand together for 30 minutes.
Mythic have bungled every step of the way since the release of WAR. They are in many ways no worse or better than any other average MMO provider but we do not pay for mediocrity. We pay for excellence and Mythic's deployment of the much loved Warhammer intellectual property has not been a crowning achievement in the history of either Games Workshop or Electronic Arts.
Mythic make vague promises which are never delivered and they have appalling patching processes where they hurry versions through on the test servers without proper testing. Then we are subjected to all kinds of problems such as lag and shockingly unplayable gameplay conditions. They produce sloppy programming which inflicts misery on elements of the community for up to months at a time before they get around to doing ill-considered fixes where they tend to break nearly as much as they fix. All the while they dangle the carrot of 'better times coming / good stuff on the way' to appease people while their developers scratch their heads and hope.
There is not one thing that Mythic have implemented in the short history of this MMO that has been deployed to live servers and 'just worked'. Every single update has been marred by shoddy quality control and embaressing bugs that should have been caught way before hitting production environments.
Mythic need to make their processes more transparent to us, the paying customers and show they are directly including our feedback in updates, not just bugs they missed because of poor internal quality procedures.
Mythic need to produce better scheduled reports of progress. RELIABLE information on what is going through the change process. Not just pipe dreams from developers who floated an idea at a meeting which hasn't been tested but they felt it was cool to waffle about on a video blog.
Mythic need to show they are responding to player concerns directly. Rolling out comedians with silly sunglasses just doesn't cut it any more.
Mythic need to increase the quality of their output drastically.
Mythic need to remove the knee-jerk balancing mentality prevelant in every patch to date. This is probably one of their biggest WAR crimes.
Electronic Arts need to show they are on the case and support the community. Because it is the community on which any MMO stands or falls and thus EA's income. Mythic's behaviour is killing the community. It is being eroded day by day as the players lose faith in Mythic to ever deliver.
If enough of us stand together before Mythic completely blow all confidence in Warhammer's MMO incarnation we will send a clear message to this and every other MMO provider out there that we the gaming community want those who intend to create and provide MMO services that we will not just be fobbed off with vague promises, vague hints of future fixes if we just put up with the mediocre performance for now. We pay to play now. We pay for YOU, the MMO provider to deliver now.
We want and we have a right to expect.
I propose that every player in every guild in every alliance on every server in Europe stands together.
Most MMO providers listen to those that scream the loudest.
We're not going to scream at you, Mythic. We're not going to rant about how poorly you have handled this community and its ongoing concerns.
We're going to stand quietly for 30 minutes, all of us...
...With the gaming media of the entire world watching.
Comments
I know you didn't make the original post... but the only way to do anything to really affect the game would be a petition to have everyone cancel their accounts.
Mythic is not going to care about some people standing around in the capital cities as long as they're still paying.
I already made my stand, months ago. After the made the pointless keep siege changes that made the game nothing but a boring PvE grind.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
And you really think this is going to help? how?
Speaking with your wallet (read canceling your sub) is the only real power you have as customer.
And that is exactly what many of us have done.
GOA has run DAoC completely into the ground in Europe. And they have completely run WAR into the ground as well.
Nothing is going to change that.
And especially with EA. Eventually they just gonna pull the plug out of WAR and be done with it.
Cheers
Go to the official website and ask as many palyers to cancel as possible. If not nothing will be change...
RIP Orc Choppa
Most MMO providers listen to those that scream the loudest.
We're not going to scream at you, Mythic. We're not going to rant about how poorly you have handled this community and its ongoing concerns.
We're going to stand quietly for 30 minutes, all of us...
...With the gaming media of the entire world watching.
Ha ha ha ha! These emo posts are great! The OP states that he knows that most mmo providers listen to loud mouths......and then proposes 30 minutes of silence and inactivity. Awesome! Yeah Mythic are going to be rocked to the core I'm sure. All of those PAYING CUSTOMERS standing around silently PAYING MYTHIC MONEY in protest. I'm sure this act of selfless devotion will transform Mythic into a great games company and within a month WAR will become a fantastic and interesting game. Oh yes and of course "the gaming media of the ENTIRE WORLD" will be watching. I will look forward to seeing this earth shattering news story.
.....or as others have said you could just stop paying for a bad game.
Ultimately i hope that other companies will look upon War and learn from it...
RIP Orc Choppa
I don't care about the fate of I WAR at all anymore, but I heartily disagree with this remark. It's a depressing and ultimately defeatist attitude. It's like thinking the only way you can affect how your country is run is through your single vote. Whereas activists, writers, opinion leaders influence not *one* but *many* votes...
The same is true for many things - websites, games... People voicing their opinion can and do make an impact. That's why online reputation management is such hot stuff right now. The PR people have woken up to it.
I don't care about the fate of I WAR at all anymore, but I heartily disagree with this remark. It's a depressing and ultimately defeatist attitude. It's like thinking the only way you can affect how your country is run is through your single vote. Whereas activists, writers, opinion leaders influence not *one* but *many* votes...
The same is true for many things - websites, games... People voicing their opinion can and do make an impact. That's why online reputation management is such hot stuff right now. The PR people have woken up to it.
I couldn't agree more with you solarine. Before deciding to play or return to a game I not only check out reviews, I also check forums for any info to help persuade or deter me away from a game. I was thinking about giving Warhammer another go but after reading up on it, I am compelled to stay away from it for now.
Rise above hate.
Ignore fan boys.
I don't care about the fate of I WAR at all anymore, but I heartily disagree with this remark. It's a depressing and ultimately defeatist attitude. It's like thinking the only way you can affect how your country is run is through your single vote. Whereas activists, writers, opinion leaders influence not *one* but *many* votes...
The same is true for many things - websites, games... People voicing their opinion can and do make an impact. That's why online reputation management is such hot stuff right now. The PR people have woken up to it.
Yet in the world of MMO. Even if you complain, as long as you're still paying your fees, there's no need to listen, because you're doing exactly what they want. I'm not saying they won't, but cancelling is the absolute strongest message you can send.
What's this action going to do? Crash a city? Like that never happened.
Worst thing is maybe, possibly a bad article by some dubious internet reporter, and what's that going to do? Hurt WAR's already bad rep?
It's not that it might not get things done. but from Mythic's side, there's no consequence behind it whatsoever. If it gets anything done, it's because Mythic feels like doing so, not because the action will push them into it. All it does is give them a good "see we do listen" opportunity on doing something they probably wanted to do anyway.
Quite interesting that this protest doesn't adress the flawed core of the game but just a few of the symptoms.
If WAR would have been the success they intended it to be, the management issues and quality control might have been on a much higher level. At least every department would have bigger crews and more funding.
It isn't though, and no protest on earth could change the fundamental issues which made me and thousands of others leave WAR.
It aren't bugs, instability, lack of quality control or shoddy communication which make the game what it is now, ... it are the repetition in RVR, the lack of excitement in PVP with no mentionable penalties to dying or losing a keep, the superficial world design with plenty of restrictive geography, the lack of interesting alternative gameplay options, etc.
My brand new bloggity blog.
Hmm, dunno if I agree with that assessment. I think the post voices exactly what's wrong with the game: it's playability. Maybe the content is lacking, but a good chunk of the player base would never know that because they can't even experience it due to lag, bugs, crashing, etc. Don't get me wrong, I agree that more money = more QA, better development teams, etc...but to get to that point, you need to have a game that is at least functional and has some content to start with. WAR BEGAN with tons of bugs and issues, was clearly still in a "beta" form when it was released, and they've been trying to catch up ever since. The RVR and fighting other players is the one saving grace that this game has; the teamwork and coordination that open field combat can foster is something I've never seen before in another MMO (but it takes the right group and good leadership to get to that point, and I admit the vast majority of open field combat tends to boil down to zerg vs zerg if you're not in a good group).
If anything, I'd say they've been trying to add too much new content (the choppa and slayer release, not to mention Land of the Dead) without fixing what is already broken. The end game is what really kills this game; almost universally people have a blast through tiers 1-3, but as soon as they hit T4 and see what a broken mess a large chunk of it is, they end up quitting. Fix the stability issues, fix the broken parts of endgame, THEN focus on polishing and adding new content.
Totally disagree with their method of protesting, but I think their complaint is the crux of what's killing the game.
"TO MICHAEL!"
No. The only way to do anything to really affect the game would be to have "everyone" actually cancel their account (and let the subscription run out - who cares about someone canceling when they'll likely re-enable the account 8 hours after it gets locked?). I believe 90-99% of those claiming they will cancel or signing a petition, simply won't. ;-)
So does anyone knows how it goes? Any screenshots?
RIP Orc Choppa
K, here's the link to the screenshot of the silent protest : img508.imageshack.us/img508/7398/caradac011.jpg
Spread the word!!!
RIP Orc Choppa
That's not the silent protest, thats a bunch of people who walked out at the same time and due to the horrible game engine, the terrible lag, and the 1 frame per hour with that many people in one area, they got frozen in place.
Go play Darkfall if you are not affraid of real pvp. I've played both WAR and Darkfall, and can assure you you'll stick to Darkfall.
The biggest difference regarding the devs is that every patch is the reflect of the community's feedback... it is simply amazing and possible because they are still a small company owned by players !
Hahahah Darkfall... you might as well tell people to play Hello Kitty Online. The game is more screwed up then Warhammer and real PvP lmao....... yea, i might believe you... if it wasnt for everyone fighting naked... and treating it as a FPS game.
Just give Darkfall a try.
You seem to be very knowledgeable about Hello Kitty Online, seems we are not playing the same kind of game.
Just give Darkfall a try.
You seem to be very knowledgeable about Hello Kitty Online, seems we are not playing the same kind of game.
I did give Darkfall a try and it's garbage.
Hate to tell you, but a mass protest would be viewed by the WAR team as amazing news: it woudl imply they had a playerbase that cared enough about the game to do such a thing.
But its negative news, its a protest...
RIP Orc Choppa
I find it funny that some of you say tell people to cancel their subs on the official forums.
I think you'll find they are doing that already
I was also very very diappointed with how Mythic handled the intellectuall property of this game and crappy gameplay. Best way for me to protest was to stop subbing to the game. I applaud all the silent protestors in the capital cities.
...and to think i was a rabid fanboi at one time
100 hail marys for me!
Played : WOW, LOTRO, COH/COV, EQ2, SWG, and WAR.
Playing EVE Online and AOC.
Wtg for SW:TOR and WOD
That's a huge mouth on the left O.o. Scary.
Anyway... I have to agree... The strongest message you can send as a dissatisfied customer is to cease giving them your business. Standing there silently as paying customers isn't going to prove a thing. Cancel your accounts in protest and affect them where it hurts (their wallets).. That's the only way you will ever get your point across.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops