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I would be really glad if some experienced players could help me (AION)

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  • dsebutchrdsebutchr Member Posts: 245
    Originally posted by Handykiller


    Hello.
    I just pre-order AION and I would be really glad if some experienced players could help me out. For some reason I ALWAYS pick the class that SUCKS. Like in WOW. I was playing as a mage. They sucked so bad.
    So this time I would be really glad to start with a class that is GOOD. For once I want to kick someone’s butt and /spit :(
    Well I was thinking of playing a warrior- dps gladiator?
    Is the any official “best race or class “ ? or most popular ?
    Thanks…

     



     

    Do not pick templar.  I enjoy the templar.  If everything you pick sucks, you should pick a caster class, I did not really care for them, it's okay if you make them suck.  Leave Templar alone.

  • drolkrad666drolkrad666 Member Posts: 56
    Originally posted by Handykiller


    Hello.
    I just pre-order AION and I would be really glad if some experienced players could help me out. For some reason I ALWAYS pick the class that SUCKS. Like in WOW. I was playing as a mage. They sucked so bad.
    So this time I would be really glad to start with a class that is GOOD. For once I want to kick someone’s butt and /spit :(
    Well I was thinking of playing a warrior- dps gladiator?
    Is the any official “best race or class “ ? or most popular ?
    Thanks…

     

    just play cleric ... its always safe

  • dsebutchrdsebutchr Member Posts: 245

    not to mention clerics are abusively tough to kill in pvp...

  • HandykillerHandykiller Member Posts: 109

    don't be mean i just asking :P i know what you mean by experimenting by myself but im sick of having bad luck and always pick a bad class...

    I kill for fun...

  • dsebutchrdsebutchr Member Posts: 245

    Easiest class I played was Cleric.

    I had the most fun with Templar.

     

    You have to try them yourself.  What you think is fun may not be what other people think is fun.  So really you need to decide for yourself.

  • HandykillerHandykiller Member Posts: 109

    thanks for all the answers guys..

    is healer on AION does he have similar spells as the priest on WOW?

    so there basically is 2 ways to play all the classes ?

    this is going to be fun,,

    anyone have any idea how many people that going to play at launch in EU?

    I kill for fun...

  • roma650roma650 Member Posts: 26

    i prefer chanters ...from beta i player a warrior for like 20 min and decided healign every 5 monsters was too mutch time consuming. so Chanters because they are diffcult to kill in pvp (tho u will rely suck when it commes to fightign mages/archers due to thier slow down spells- and mages dont suck in this game they do a great job at enoyying people lol and very usefull at killing eletes with their sleep spells ans such) anyways back to saying chnters are awsome....u can buf obviosly that wuld be ure main role and usaly ure gana be the healer if not enougth clerics are present in the party (u need 2 healers to do any sort of elete killing qests ...those start at lvl 17^^)  thier other role is sititng near the tanks and slowign the enemy attacks and makign it stats drop/ and makign mele characters and ureself do more damedge(yea chnaters have like 1 rainged spell and thats from when u are the begginer class so its not mutch use past lvl 12-14 except maybe pulling mobs.) anywas each class is ure liking thats just my little explanation of my chanter life and playstyle.

     

    so its simple rely to decide.

    Mages=u love lots of damedge and not trying not to get hit.....u will die if theres more then 1 enemy usaly or maybe if ure inexcperienced (if had mages kill me but only in 1 vs 1s)

    Summoners(forgot real name i think)= well they are multi purpose theres inst alot of them....so i idk...they kill fast if they catch u when  ure unprepared....had one kill me in like 4 seconds when i was distracted lol.

    Clerics= healers they usaly destroy mele charcters in 1 v1 unless mele char can properly stop them form casting their heals.(when clerics fight clerics fight will not end unless thier mana runs out....and the other guy uses like a potion to boost his)

    Chanters= my prefrence, multiple uses.

    Gladiators/Templars or what ever..= tanks.  gladiators do more damedge templars(or what ever) are just tanks that take mroe damdege .

    Assasins=tactical hit and run people  soem of the highest dps in mele. thinkt heyr are the enxt class ill play.

    Raingers=hit and run...they are highly enoying to kill but dont do enougth damedge to kill anyone that can heal.

     

     

    i only got to lvl 20 in beta so my oppinions are not 100%

     

     

     

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by Handykiller
    Originally posted by Ephimero Classes are pretty balanced, it depends on your style, if you have a duo going on 2 rangers are probably the best gankers in both abyss and rifts, if you are a soloer, assassin and templars work well, gladiator works in groups so does spiritmaster, sorcerer isn't a late bloomer and you might have troubles with certain classes at the endgame since people are stacking magic defence in Korea and it seems to work well against stuns, even though in 1.5 they separated the CC resists so people might change their strategies now in favor of sorcs, sorcs are hella rewarding though, cause it requires a lot of skill to play it well and succeed.
    Chanters are pretty strong with good equipment, probably one of the best endgame wise if you know how to kite and time your stuns in 1v1 and pretty useful in group pvp, clerics got a bit nerfed but they are still hella strong and necessary (2 per party in pvp).
    Your class choice won't be the factor stopping you from kicking asses in aion, at least not in the version we'll be getting.
     
    thank you Ephimero for the great answer.
    however i have a question remaining... im kinda sick of pvp after pvping om WOW so much but i still don't want people to rip me a new hole on pvp.
    I want to be a class guild need be in need of, and random party's...
    cleric sounds interesting, but are they fun end game?
    would you recommend cleric or an hunter you say ?
     

    Just a hint, if someone say it takes alot of skill to play that class well... stay away. Thats code for, there gimp and it takes more to be successful. If you know your super leet go for it, and if you know your not, stay away. Mages for instance are great and take alot of skill in WoW. But you and I now there gimp lol

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  • oskironmaideoskironmaide Member Posts: 336

    if you think the class you choose is the one that sucks.. Maybe dont you think, you are the one that sucks?

    If you watch The Karate Kid backwards it's about this karate champ that just kinda slowly becomes a pussy and ends up moving back to Jersey
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  • roma650roma650 Member Posts: 26
    Originally posted by oskironmaide


    if you think the class you choose is the one that sucks.. Maybe dont you think, you are the one that sucks?

     

    valid point if u choose something u like u shuld be able to make the best of it and play it better then other classes...usaly why i cant master more then 2 classes without failing the 3rd

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by oskironmaide
    if you think the class you choose is the one that sucks.. Maybe dont you think, you are the one that sucks?

    HA, lots of people suck. Even people who think they are good, suck.

    I currently play WoW like the op does and I feel his pain with the mage.

    You could take a person and have them play a Mage and watch them struggle and then set them down with a retardin(ret pally) and they would think they were great pvpers.

    Now which is it? Are they good or not?
    Or is it the class they chose to play?


    WoW is far from balanced. Maybe AION is much more balanced.

    I would suggest playing a assasin. Why? Its different than what your use to playing and maybe you would like it better. I know thats what I did. I tried playing caster after caster and then when I played the rogue, I had a blast.

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  • durkdrevendurkdreven Member UncommonPosts: 23
    Originally posted by Handykiller


    Hello.
    I just pre-order AION and I would be really glad if some experienced players could help me out. For some reason I ALWAYS pick the class that SUCKS. Like in WOW. I was playing as a mage. They sucked so bad.
    So this time I would be really glad to start with a class that is GOOD. For once I want to kick someone’s butt and /spit :(
    Well I was thinking of playing a warrior- dps gladiator?
    Is the any official “best race or class “ ? or most popular ?
    Thanks…

     

     

    you start by asking advice on a game you have no clue on, based on your fail in wow as mage. I was mage hardcore raider in wow for 4 years and your assumptions on the wow mage is YOU being clueless. (other classes had just as many issues when wow started)

    And then someone tells you Sorcerer in Aion is nice because its really overpowered atm based on the beta (I think most of us beta players agree that the Aion sorcerer is quite powerful atm). But you shoot it down because you failed at wow mage.

    what the F kinda comparison is that?

    And then someone says "Assassin is fine in aion" and imidiately you are interested

    Seems to me you already had your mind set nomatter what ppl would say.

     

    Advice, dont play mmos anymore...

     

     

    ps: yeah im pissed cos i cba these retarded threads from failed casuals. and we all know youre not in aion +1 month anyway.

    Life is meaningless. It is in death that we are truly tested

  • Dark_raverDark_raver Member Posts: 33

    lol

    i played mages to and they r doomed to fail in pk games

     

    traditionaly rouges and scouts shine true in pk (asians have some thing with arrows and ninjas)

    simply becouse they have stealth and ivisable skills (element of surprise and first attack are very powerfull in pk)

     

    warriors somewhere between

     

    tanks  the hard to kill punchbags

     

    and mages(cloth) .....are the i get a hit and die class

     

  • madmatymadmaty Member UncommonPosts: 13

    I personally play a spirit master. I think they are a great solo class due to the built in tank and high dps. They also get a skill around level 20 sum that gives +20% drops, yes we really do you can cast it every 2 mins :) They are great against those burst dmg players in PvP due to their damage bubble, which absorbs pretty much all the burst dmg and leaves them sitting there waiting on recharges while you kill them. Their water pet also gets a wing clip to knock people out of the air so they cant run away. which in the abyss comes in very handy. They can block magic to shut down other casters mainly used on healers so the fights don't last 2 hours lol. Also pretty high up (50 i believe) you get your 4000 dp summon which is CRAZY over powered lol. Think of a summable raid boss that will strike fear into anyone who trys to come against you. Instant summon pets comes around level 30 so you can swap pets fairly fast. I personally have never came up aginst a single player of another class that I could not defeat. (as long as they were around my level) But like everyone said try out some classes and find the one that suits you. Some classes are ment to be weak and have no solo ability yet have crazy support and crowd control :)

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by durkdreven

    Originally posted by Handykiller

    Hello.
    I just pre-order AION and I would be really glad if some experienced players could help me out. For some reason I ALWAYS pick the class that SUCKS. Like in WOW. I was playing as a mage. They sucked so bad.
    So this time I would be really glad to start with a class that is GOOD. For once I want to kick someone’s butt and /spit :(
    Well I was thinking of playing a warrior- dps gladiator?
    Is the any official “best race or class “ ? or most popular ?
    Thanks…
     


     
    you start by asking advice on a game you have no clue on, based on your fail in wow as mage. I was mage hardcore raider in wow for 4 years and your assumptions on the wow mage is YOU being clueless. (other classes had just as many issues when wow started)
    And then someone tells you Sorcerer in Aion is nice because its really overpowered atm based on the beta (I think most of us beta players agree that the Aion sorcerer is quite powerful atm). But you shoot it down because you failed at wow mage.
    what the F kinda comparison is that?
    And then someone says "Assassin is fine in aion" and imidiately you are interested
    Seems to me you already had your mind set nomatter what ppl would say.
     
    Advice, dont play mmos anymore...
     
     
    ps: yeah im pissed cos i cba these retarded threads from failed casuals. and we all know youre not in aion +1 month anyway.

    This is the mmorpg.com forums. Welcome. Stick to the topic.

    Being a dick doesnt get you points here.
    Btw raiding and pvp are two completely different things and his struggle with the mage didnt come with raiding, it came with pvp.

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  • HandykillerHandykiller Member Posts: 109
    Originally posted by logangregor


     

    Originally posted by durkdreven


    Originally posted by Handykiller
     
    Hello.

    I just pre-order AION and I would be really glad if some experienced players could help me out. For some reason I ALWAYS pick the class that SUCKS. Like in WOW. I was playing as a mage. They sucked so bad.

    So this time I would be really glad to start with a class that is GOOD. For once I want to kick someone’s butt and /spit :(

    Well I was thinking of playing a warrior- dps gladiator?

    Is the any official “best race or class “ ? or most popular ?

    Thanks…

     

     

    you start by asking advice on a game you have no clue on, based on your fail in wow as mage. I was mage hardcore raider in wow for 4 years and your assumptions on the wow mage is YOU being clueless. (other classes had just as many issues when wow started)

    And then someone tells you Sorcerer in Aion is nice because its really overpowered atm based on the beta (I think most of us beta players agree that the Aion sorcerer is quite powerful atm). But you shoot it down because you failed at wow mage.

    what the F kinda comparison is that?

    And then someone says "Assassin is fine in aion" and imidiately you are interested

    Seems to me you already had your mind set nomatter what ppl would say.

     

    Advice, dont play mmos anymore...

     

     

    ps: yeah im pissed cos i cba these retarded threads from failed casuals. and we all know youre not in aion +1 month anyway.

     

    This is the mmorpg.com forums. Welcome. Stick to the topic.

    Being a dick doesnt get you points here.

    Btw raiding and pvp are two completely different things and his struggle with the mage didnt come with raiding, it came with pvp.

     

    thanks alot logangregor...  

     

    for the support :P

    to bad there so many idiots now days. i mean what's the point of having this forums if simple questions make people start flameing..

    just don't answer.. i played the vanilla wow.. i had a high warlord mage.. took me 9 mouths to get it...

    but it was not enough and i definitely did not suck...

    still the mage was not as near as powerful as the shamans or priest's.

    i dont feel like or got the time to try all the classes so i asked. enough of that...

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    Is this game assassin similar to the rouge on wow? think they will ge useful to have in party's?

    i dont like the responsibility as a healer or tank, but someone told me EVERYBOY and there cousins make dpg gladiators,, so that out of the question.

    so my choice is hard :( assassin or chanter...

    something tells me chanter will be good end game but i been mistaken before.

    templar seems fun but the gladiators skill are 100 times more cool from the you tube clips.

    :P



     

     

    I kill for fun...

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    I am really against the way individuals in WoW forums speak and act towards eachother.


    Im pretty sure the point of forums is to gain knowledge, discuss games, learn things about upcoming games, get help etc.

    But since WoW was released, the forums have degraded over the years from helping/answering question to just straight dogging everyone you see, trying to make fun of their gear, their arena raidings, even their achievements ( how lame is that )

    I really dont want to see these forums stoop to that level.

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  • roma650roma650 Member Posts: 26
    Originally posted by logangregor




    I am really against the way individuals in WoW forums speak and act towards eachother.


    Im pretty sure the point of forums is to gain knowledge, discuss games, learn things about upcoming games, get help etc.
    But since WoW was released, the forums have degraded over the years from helping/answering question to just straight dogging everyone you see, trying to make fun of their gear, their arena raidings, even their achievements ( how lame is that )
     
    I really dont want to see these forums stoop to that level.

     

    umm this is mmorpg forrums..we are discussing the classes and how they play so people can find a good decription and decide to use that class. in the REAL forrums at aion.com(currently closed till beta starts again) i agree...so far people are only sereusly trolling there if the WoW word is said.....cuz 3/4 of aion players probbaly hate WoW with a passion

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524

    I know this is the mmorpg.com forums :)

    We had a individual who single handedly was ruding it up to wow forum status.

    Hence my comments.

    To get things back on topic, Id reccomend playing a assasin OP.

    It will be the biggest change of pace and playstyle that you could see.
    And since maybe you havent tried A-MELEE B-STEALTHER, it might just suit your taste.

    IMO it kinda goes down to a mindset sort of thing, not a HOW good are you thing.


    Rogues in WoW for instance which are somewhat similiar to assasins in AION, are all about catching someone at the wrong time, locking them down(stuns/silence/Blinds/poisons), kicking there ass and getting back into stealth asap so you can do it again.

    Mages were imo a reactive class, a counterpunching class.
    They were a DO THIS quickly until you see them do this, or wait for them to burn this, I mean with the roots, slows, spellsteal and silence thats how they felt to me.
    And do it perfectly and quickly or thats it. A very unforgiving class.


    Some people haver more of a certain mindset or thinking to do things better. I know some people are incredible at kiting other players, and some just dont get it or will never do it quite as well. It takes a cautious person to do this well. If you got too much of a killer instinct and are playign a softer class that can kite, well that will just get you killed.

    And on the other hand, if you play a stealther and are never willing to take chances and get into the mix, you will never reach your potential either.

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  • HandykillerHandykiller Member Posts: 109
    Originally posted by logangregor


    I know this is the mmorpg.com forums :)
    We had a individual who single handedly was ruding it up to wow forum status.
    Hence my comments.
    To get things back on topic, Id reccomend playing a assasin OP.
    It will be the biggest change of pace and playstyle that you could see.

    And since maybe you havent tried A-MELEE B-STEALTHER, it might just suit your taste.
    IMO it kinda goes down to a mindset sort of thing, not a HOW good are you thing.


    Rogues in WoW for instance which are somewhat similiar to assasins in AION, are all about catching someone at the wrong time, locking them down(stuns/silence/Blinds/poisons), kicking there ass and getting back into stealth asap so you can do it again.
    Mages were imo a reactive class, a counterpunching class.

    They were a DO THIS quickly until you see them do this, or wait for them to burn this, I mean with the roots, slows, spellsteal and silence thats how they felt to me.

    And do it perfectly and quickly or thats it. A very unforgiving class.


    Some people haver more of a certain mindset or thinking to do things better. I know some people are incredible at kiting other players, and some just dont get it or will never do it quite as well. It takes a cautious person to do this well. If you got too much of a killer instinct and are playign a softer class that can kite, well that will just get you killed.
    And on the other hand, if you play a stealther and are never willing to take chances and get into the mix, you will never reach your potential either.

    thanks logangregor and well said.

    But do u think the assassin will be a class that guild and random party's will be in need of ?

    Let's take the mages on wow for an example. Nobody really needed them so no one ever asked for a mage, Shamans, warriors and prests, everybody always need them.

    So for me: chanter= shaman? But the chanter class does not seems to be so fun...

    assassins looks really cool, but are they really a "good party class " ?

    the chanter i assume will always be in need.

    hard choice

     

    I kill for fun...

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524

    eh not a hard choice.


    What do you like to do?

    Thats all it really comes down to.


    Do you like to pvp even if you dont have a group? assasin.

    Do you have to have a group-- sorc/chanter or even clerics are very good.


    Hell, its a simple decision. This isnt wow. There isnt the OP class atm and I get the feeling that there wont ever be either.
    All the classes are good. No one is really gimp or OP.


    Its really not about WHOSE good, but What YOU enjoy.

    There is really no simpler way I could put it.

    When a person finds that one class he or she really excels at and enjoys, it doesnt matter when that class may be nerfed, or buffed, or not be the MOST popular class in groups.

    If its what you enjoy, its what you enjoy.

    Its impossible to always have the perfect class anyways.
    There are always going to be advantages and disadvantages of all classes.
    Pick what looks the most fun and go with it.

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  • Syphin_BSyphin_B Member UncommonPosts: 340

    Maybe its not the class and ever think that maybe you just fucking suck?

    Mage's dont suck.. you do. I would say L2P but douchebags use those kinda terms.

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by Drago
    Maybe its not the class and ever think that maybe you just fucking suck?
    Mage's dont suck.. you do. I would say L2P but douchebags use those kinda terms.

    I like the mage.


    I just think the level of skill it takes to play a mage is much, MUCH higher than any class in game by a mile.


    To tell someone they suck because they struggled with the mage is just a bit skewed, because they could prolly play many other classes and do well.

    Mages are soft.
    They have no pally bubble.
    They have no cloak of shadows vanish.
    They have no heal.
    The burst dps of a mage is weak.
    They have no pets.

    All the CC of a mage is broke on damage or via trinket.

    I think I made my point.

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  • durkdrevendurkdreven Member UncommonPosts: 23
    Originally posted by logangregor


     

    Originally posted by Drago

    Maybe its not the class and ever think that maybe you just fucking suck?

    Mage's dont suck.. you do. I would say L2P but douchebags use those kinda terms.

     

    I like the mage.



    I just think the level of skill it takes to play a mage is much, MUCH higher than any class in game by a mile.



    To tell someone they suck because they struggled with the mage is just a bit skewed, because they could prolly play many other classes and do well.

    Mages are soft.

    They have no pally bubble.

    They have no cloak of shadows vanish.

    They have no heal.

    The burst dps of a mage is weak.

    They have no pets.

    All the CC of a mage is broke on damage or via trinket.

    I think I made my point.

     

    youre really clueless arent you? either you never played mage or you failed hard at a basic game.

    how about mention the super survivabillity there is with

    - iceblock

    - Ice Barrier

    - mana shield

    - blink

    - all frostnova and snare effects

    - plus much other in different specs that help you survive

     

    you made jack shi_t point. but then again, get out of your parents basement and stop failing at basic gameplay

    Life is meaningless. It is in death that we are truly tested

  • HandykillerHandykiller Member Posts: 109
    Originally posted by durkdreven

    Originally posted by logangregor


     

    Originally posted by Drago

    Maybe its not the class and ever think that maybe you just fucking suck?

    Mage's dont suck.. you do. I would say L2P but douchebags use those kinda terms.

     

    I like the mage.



    I just think the level of skill it takes to play a mage is much, MUCH higher than any class in game by a mile.



    To tell someone they suck because they struggled with the mage is just a bit skewed, because they could prolly play many other classes and do well.

    Mages are soft.

    They have no pally bubble.

    They have no cloak of shadows vanish.

    They have no heal.

    The burst dps of a mage is weak.

    They have no pets.

    All the CC of a mage is broke on damage or via trinket.

    I think I made my point.

     

    youre really clueless arent you? either you never played mage or you failed hard at a basic game.

    how about mention the super survivabillity there is with

    - iceblock

    - Ice Barrier

    - mana shield

    - blink

    - all frostnova and snare effects

    - plus much other in different specs that help you survive

     

    you made jack shi_t point. but then again, get out of your parents basement and stop failing at basic gameplay

    Seems like your retardation skills has reach its final limits...

    Don't bring your hatred where it does not belong only because you mad at the world for having an extremely small pen1s kay??

    You just have no clue what u are talking about..

    If you rank the 10 top best players on WOW.. you wouldn't find a mage on that list.

    COMPARED to the other class's skill the mages suck.. That's what I think after my first year on vanilla wow. I have no idea how good they are in the expansions but i had enough of the mages, so I kindly asked people for advise until u showed up.

    By the way.. I going to be nice and give you this link to show you that there is good in this world even when your a prick.

    http://ezinearticles.com/?Top-3-Ways-On-How-To-Enlarge-Your-Penis&id=775191



    enjoy

     

    I kill for fun...

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