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  • DameonkDameonk Member UncommonPosts: 1,914

    As someone who has been playing LOTRO since beta and has a lifetime subscription.  LOTRO definitely has a more engrosing story.  I believe this is only due to the fact that it's Lord of the Rings.  If it wasn't called LOTRO but had the same story, I don't think a lot of people would care. 

    As far as actual PvE combat, scenery, mobs, and dungeons go; Aion is so far ahead of LOTRO that it's unfair to LOTRO to compare the two.

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  • veritas_Xveritas_X Member Posts: 393
    Originally posted by Cromica

    Originally posted by LethalBurst


    Aion = PvP focused game with shit ass PvE.  Hmmm... sounds like Warhammer all over again.
    I have zero interest in Aion because I fucking can't stand silly Asian games.
     



     

    Spoken by someone who has never played the game.

     

    Eh, I've leveled two characters to the mid-20s during the beta preview weekends, and I completely agree with him.  Actually I think WAR's pve was deeper, which is a pretty pathetic commentary on Aion's linearity and smallish zones.

    I like the Asian visuals, but Aion is really a Lineage 3 expansion pack.

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by Ethian

    Originally posted by veritas_X


    Out of my kin of 20, I'm the only one who even bothered getting into the preview beta.  After I told them that the amount of pve content in Lotro absolutely dwarfs that in Aion (by a factor of about 100), they have even less interest.
    Aion's got two starting areas, one for each side, and each time you roll a new character you'll be doing the exact same quests and seeing the exact same restrictive zones until you get into your mid 20s.  Crafting and itemization also lags behind Lotro in terms of the number of options.
    It may make a small dent in Lotro's player base while the free month is going on at release, but long term I doubt it will be of much consequence.



     

    I hate to be the one to say it but Aion is in beta...lotro has had many updates since it was released. Do your remeber lotro when it first launched? I sure do I was there, and the pve content was half what it is now or less even. How can you even consider comparing the pve in Aion to the pve lotro at this point? Anyways, rather then troll the forum I thought I'd mention it.

    My guess it that once Aion has been out and updated or has available expansions the world will be much larger and there will be many more areas to quest in available to us along with opportunity to pvp in the same zones. I for one left LOTRO in a heartbeat for Aion. The character models, armor, and animations alone put lotro to shame.



     

    People never do this with games when comapring newly launched ones to others that have been out for some time.  I'm not defending them because it drives me nuts too but they always do that shit.  If i had a nickel for every boob that compared games to WoW and talk about how smooth and great WoW's launch was or talk about how WoW's content blows away new games amount of content I could buy out Blizzard - neither of which was remotely true when the game first launched yet you see people saying that all the time.

    Its never fair to compare a new game to one that's been out for some time unless you're referring to the core mechanics of the game, company's customer service, graphical design/artistry, or something along those lines.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • illanadanillanadan Member Posts: 314

     Well I have tried Aion and grew quite bored with it. It doesn't have intense enough PvP to keep me interested the way Asherons Call and old school Ultima Online did, the crafting is more or less non-existant, and what PvE?

    I will stick with LoTRO thanks to it's PvE fun (not challenging anymore but still fun).

    And of course I will always still play Infantry Online (sad to say but the fighting there dwarfs any PvP I have seen yet in a MMO... And Infantry Online has been out since late 97!) 

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  • Vagrant_ZeroVagrant_Zero Member Posts: 1,190
    Originally posted by Dameonk


    As someone who has been playing LOTRO since beta and has a lifetime subscription.  LOTRO definitely has a more engrosing story.  I believe this is only due to the fact that it's Lord of the Rings.  If it wasn't called LOTRO but had the same story, I don't think a lot of people would care. 
    As far as actual PvE combat, scenery, mobs, and dungeons go; Aion is so far ahead of LOTRO that it's unfair to LOTRO to compare the two.

     

    And if Aion was a western game the mouth-breathing otakus wouldn't go lauding it as the savoir of MMO-kind when in reality it's an inferior WoW experience.

     

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  • CromicaCromica Member UncommonPosts: 657
    Originally posted by veritas_X

    Originally posted by Cromica

    Originally posted by LethalBurst


    Aion = PvP focused game with shit ass PvE.  Hmmm... sounds like Warhammer all over again.
    I have zero interest in Aion because I fucking can't stand silly Asian games.
     



     

    Spoken by someone who has never played the game.

     

    Eh, I've leveled two characters to the mid-20s during the beta preview weekends, and I completely agree with him.  Actually I think WAR's pve was deeper, which is a pretty pathetic commentary on Aion's linearity and smallish zones.

    I like the Asian visuals, but Aion is really a Lineage 3 expansion pack.

    So you are basing your idea that the pve is bad because you have done some quests and have not set foot into any instances.

    Well by your definition then every game with pve is bad because every game out has the same kinds of quest, Go collect X, Kill so many of Y until you get Z, they are all the same.

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by veritas_X

    Originally posted by Cromica

    Originally posted by LethalBurst


    Aion = PvP focused game with shit ass PvE.  Hmmm... sounds like Warhammer all over again.
    I have zero interest in Aion because I fucking can't stand silly Asian games.
     



     

    Spoken by someone who has never played the game.

     

    Eh, I've leveled two characters to the mid-20s during the beta preview weekends, and I completely agree with him.  Actually I think WAR's pve was deeper, which is a pretty pathetic commentary on Aion's linearity and smallish zones.



     

    Come on now...is that even possible?  Warhammer has to be one of the worst mmos in relation to PvE to come out in years among p2p games.  From a PvP standpoint its actually pretty sweet least until T4 but how could anything have worse PvE than Warhammer?  Hell, AoC's PvE least far as what is available is even better than Warhammer.

    The only thing Warhammer had going for it in relation to PvE was the public quest format.  'Course that ended up being an utter failure but it was still an interesting concept and maybe if they hadn't added 500,000 servers after launch it wouldn't have turned into a lost cause with them within a month of the game launching.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • DameonkDameonk Member UncommonPosts: 1,914
    Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero


    And if Aion was a western game the mouth-breathing otakus wouldn't go lauding it as the savoir of MMO-kind when in reality it's an inferior WoW experience.
    Did you see what I did there? Did you like?



    Who, exactly, is calling Aion the savior of MMO-kind?

    And no, I didn't see what you did there.  Sorry. 

    Edit: I don't really understand your point considering WoW has more subscriptions in asia than western countries.  It is also still has considerably more subscriptions than Aion, even by the most ludicrous of subscription numbers thrown around.

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  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly

    Originally posted by veritas_X

    Originally posted by Cromica

    Originally posted by LethalBurst


    Aion = PvP focused game with shit ass PvE.  Hmmm... sounds like Warhammer all over again.
    I have zero interest in Aion because I fucking can't stand silly Asian games.
     



     

    Spoken by someone who has never played the game.

     

    Eh, I've leveled two characters to the mid-20s during the beta preview weekends, and I completely agree with him.  Actually I think WAR's pve was deeper, which is a pretty pathetic commentary on Aion's linearity and smallish zones.



     

    Come on now...is that even possible?  Warhammer has to be one of the worst mmos in relation to PvE to come out in years among p2p games.  From a PvP standpoint its actually pretty sweet least until T4 but how could anything have worse PvE than Warhammer?  Hell, AoC's PvE least far as what is available is even better than Warhammer.

    The only thing Warhammer had going for it in relation to PvE was the public quest format.  'Course that ended up being an utter failure but it was still an interesting concept and maybe if they hadn't added 500,000 servers after launch it wouldn't have turned into a lost cause with them within a month of the game launching.

    Yeah i agree. The public quests are/were good. I noticed people doing them quite  a bit up until level 10 or so then just seemed like no one was around anymore. While there still wasnt much of a wait for PVP scenarios just seemed like nobody was around doing the PQ's or any questing at all.

  • 8hammer88hammer8 Member Posts: 1,812

    I know Aion is generating some popularity with the PvMP crowd on Brandywine.  I am getting more and more tempted to try out Aion because it is more PvP centered not because of any faults about LOTRO.  From my friends who are in the Beta, they have said they enjoyed what Aion had to offer which is more than I could say for AoC/WAR where people where coming back upset even during those games Beta's.

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  • SerulithSerulith Member Posts: 92

    Im jumping ship to Aion. It doesnt do anything new but it does everything right.

    Been playing lotro since release and Turbine has taken Lotro in the worst possible direction. In fact its because of lotro that i have gotten sick of PvE content. There are around 25 people in my kin who have branched off and made a Legion in Aion. We have all been in the Beta and have been extremely impressed with what we have seen. The quests are actually good if you take the time to read them and the Campaign quests actually are entertaining and insightful. As for the PvP...i think its the only MMO in the past 5-8 years that has actually done PvP right.

    Will Aion be the next big thing? Nope. But so what? Many find it fun and It will have its own fanbase that will be enough to make it a success. It will be bigger then WAR and AoC for sure (heck it already is overseas). Many of the MMOs on the current market offer different experiences and draw in their own crowd, Aion will too. 

  • ethionethion Member UncommonPosts: 2,888
    Originally posted by Ethian

    Originally posted by veritas_X


    Out of my kin of 20, I'm the only one who even bothered getting into the preview beta.  After I told them that the amount of pve content in Lotro absolutely dwarfs that in Aion (by a factor of about 100), they have even less interest.
    Aion's got two starting areas, one for each side, and each time you roll a new character you'll be doing the exact same quests and seeing the exact same restrictive zones until you get into your mid 20s.  Crafting and itemization also lags behind Lotro in terms of the number of options.
    It may make a small dent in Lotro's player base while the free month is going on at release, but long term I doubt it will be of much consequence.



     

    I hate to be the one to say it but Aion is in beta...lotro has had many updates since it was released. Do your remeber lotro when it first launched? I sure do I was there, and the pve content was half what it is now or less even. How can you even consider comparing the pve in Aion to the pve lotro at this point? Anyways, rather then troll the forum I thought I'd mention it.

    My guess it that once Aion has been out and updated or has available expansions the world will be much larger and there will be many more areas to quest in available to us along with opportunity to pvp in the same zones. I for one left LOTRO in a heartbeat for Aion. The character models, armor, and animations alone put lotro to shame.

     

    Aion is only in beta for the US launch.  Aion has been our in asia for awhile now.  I believe they have just released version 1.5 which is I think the 3rd or forth major update.

     

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  • EthianEthian Member Posts: 1,216
    Originally posted by Serulith


    Im jumping ship to Aion. It doesnt do anything new but it does everything right.
    Been playing lotro since release and Turbine has taken Lotro in the worst possible direction. In fact its because of lotro that i have gotten sick of PvE content. There are around 25 people in my kin who have branched off and made a Legion in Aion. We have all been in the Beta and have been extremely impressed with what we have seen. The quests are actually good if you take the time to read them and the Campaign quests actually are entertaining and insightful. As for the PvP...i think its the only MMO in the past 5-8 years that has actually done PvP right.
    Will Aion be the next big thing? Nope. But so what? Many find it fun and It will have its own fanbase that will be enough to make it a success. It will be bigger then WAR and AoC for sure (heck it already is overseas). Many of the MMOs on the current market offer different experiences and draw in their own crowd, Aion will too. 



     

    Yup, I couldnt agree more. The only reason some consider lotro the pve king is because its based on tolkien's work...not because the quests are amazing or well done. If it wasnt middle earth, I'm sure the mmo would have half the population. And now with the direction turbine decided to take since Moria's release...thank god I got out when i did rather then watch lotro turn into something it never should tried to become. (pre-moria was some of fondest pve memories)

    I honestly think many mmos on the market today will see a decrease in subs once Aion releases. Not because its anything new but because it offers something no other mmo out does right now.....a polished game with a great pve story and challening pvp.

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  • avalon1000avalon1000 Member UncommonPosts: 791

    Ok I am in cb6 in AION this weekend.  The game is wearing thin aleady and that is not good for 6 weekends of play.  Leveling is very slowwww and the community is going downhill fast.  I will not be leaving LOTRO for this game and not even sure I will play AION unless some changes happen (which they might with ver. 1.5).  AION is great at first, but loses it's shine as time goes on. 

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by avalon1000


    Ok I am in cb6 in AION this weekend.  The game is wearing thin aleady and that is not good for 6 weekends of play.  Leveling is very slowwww and the community is going downhill fast.  I will not be leaving LOTRO for this game and not even sure I will play AION unless some changes happen (which they might with ver. 1.5).  AION is great at first, but loses it's shine as time goes on. 

    Yes around level 20 (im 21) it does take a long time to level. Ive enjoyed what ive seen so and want to get a look at "post level 25" play to see what it has to offer but  its beginning to look much the same at this level.

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990
    Originally posted by avalon1000


    Ok I am in cb6 in AION this weekend.  The game is wearing thin aleady and that is not good for 6 weekends of play.  Leveling is very slowwww and the community is going downhill fast.  I will not be leaving LOTRO for this game and not even sure I will play AION unless some changes happen (which they might with ver. 1.5).  AION is great at first, but loses it's shine as time goes on. 



     

    I actually think from a pure gameplay perspective the game gets better at higher levels.  I also like the slower paced leveling.  What I don't like is how solo oriented this game is and I must say the community in this game seems nonexistant although that's mainly due to the lack of chat channels.

    I will admit it interests me which is ironic considering the only reason I tried it out is I got a beta invite, but I find it fun.  I'm not sure if I enjoy it enough to spend money on it though.

    Although it seems you've been in more beta phases than me so maybe that's the case.  I will say due to the lack of zones and the linear quest quality of the game that leveling a character several times over would be rough in this game.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly

    Originally posted by avalon1000


    Ok I am in cb6 in AION this weekend.  The game is wearing thin aleady and that is not good for 6 weekends of play.  Leveling is very slowwww and the community is going downhill fast.  I will not be leaving LOTRO for this game and not even sure I will play AION unless some changes happen (which they might with ver. 1.5).  AION is great at first, but loses it's shine as time goes on. 



     

    I actually think from a pure gameplay perspective the game gets better at higher levels.  I also like the slower paced leveling.  What I don't like is how solo oriented this game is and I must say the community in this game seems nonexistant although that's mainly due to the lack of chat channels.

    I will admit it interests me which is ironic considering the only reason I tried it out is I got a beta invite, but I find it fun.  I'm not sure if I enjoy it enough to spend money on it though.

    Although it seems you've been in more beta phases than me so maybe that's the case.  I will say due to the lack of zones and the linear quest quality of the game that leveling a character several times over would be rough in this game.

    Good point about leveling a toon several times. Ive leveled two, one to 14 or so and one to 21. Now granted i should have rolled one on the opposing faction side just for something different. But now, after the CB wipe, i get to roll another one then another one at release.  I honestly do not see much difference in the starting zone and the zone im in at 21 as far as layout and what one does to progress. Will it be different farther along?  And yes, lack of chat channels makes it tough to quest in one zone and lfg in another which is what im having to do at the point im at.

  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,990

    To be honest, you're at the same level range as me so I can't say if it will be different at higher level than the early twenties.  As to rolling a toon the opposite side besides different landscape environments and fighting different mobs (sort of, some are completely new while others just have different names) the quests are rather similar in design.  So it may be a bit discouraging because you might have a persistant case of deja vu running through a lot of them.  I suppose it still would break up the monotony of doing the same zones over and over but it doesn't have the same feel in this game as it does say in LotR when you start as a dwarf/elf or as a hobbit.  Zones such as in Rings vary greatly with their quests while the quests between the two starter areas in Aion area for a lot of them seem very similar.

    I'm still enjoying it, for the most part, but I cannot see myself being real psyched to make alts in this game if I were to purchase it like I have in other games like LotR or WoW.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

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