There are areas in the game that if you were to fall in the water you have to die just to get out, So swimming will not be added because they would have to make major changes the the landscape.
Not having swimming in Aion is just another plus in my book.
Swimming in LOTRO is nothing but an annoyance and a waste of time.
In Evendim I've literally started swimming, made a sandwich, poured a glass of water, gone to the bathroom, and made it back before reaching the other shore.
If that's what I'll be missing in Aion, thank god!
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Originally posted by Cromica There are areas in the game that if you were to fall in the water you have to die just to get out, So swimming will not be added because they would have to make major changes the the landscape.
I don't think people will listen to this sadly. I've tried explaining it until I was blue in the face but they still don't get it, haha.
There are areas in the game that if you were to fall in the water you have to die just to get out, So swimming will not be added because they would have to make major changes the the landscape.
That's true. They wont change the landscape just to add a feature that isn't needed.
I see the fact that one cannot swim in the world of Atreia as a plus. When I swim in most other MMOs, I feel I just hack or such. Who would actually ruin its clothes, or even its plate armor with (potentially salted) water? Well, I guess someone who keeps their clothes dry even when completely drown in water =/
Disturbing at first, but I quickly got used to it and adopted it (Also it reminds me of Zelda and the iron boots ^^ )
Honestly, when I posted this, I didn't think it would be a big deal either way. It just seems silly that the devs didn't put swimming into the game, especially when everything else I've seen has looked pretty polished so far. As for some of the comments regarding only deep water off of cliffs -- I didn't encounter this mechanic anywhere near a cliff. I was still in the noobie area close to the strip mine when I saw a pond with a large glowing ball on the otherside. I thought, "hmm, I wonder what that is?" I tried to swim over to explore it, and instead of swimming I found myself running under water with no movement penalty at all and taking serious damage. I still don't know what the glowing ball was, as I was forced to run back to shore. So much for exploration and immersion IMO.
As for the guy that said if this was the only thing to complain about, the game must be okay. I really wasn't complaining so much as I was questioning. As good as Aion is, there are still plenty of things I could complain about (invisible walls, silly restrictions, etc.). No game is perfect and there's always room for improvement, but that wasn't the point of my post.
Oh - and as for the argument about plate armor weighing me down for realism -- I play a sorcerer in cloth armor and a fair amount of skin. If we were going for realism, wouldn't the mechanic operate differently for characters based on the weight they were carrying? See, realism isn't the reason for no swimming. In fact, it's not even a good excuse in a game based on complete fantasy.
Anywho, I am hopefully that swimming is in a later version of the game. We can never have too much polish or too many options as far as I'm concerned.
P.s. - To the guy who said if I want to swim, go swimming in RL. I'd like to respond with if you want to fly, jump off your roof in RL. See how stupid that sounds?
No swimming in a so called next generation MMOG is lame.
Firstly, I have never heard Aion being called next gen, nor would I call anything next gen until a game or games can establish themselves as next generation.
Secondly, since when has swimming so important in gaming that next generation games REQUIRE it? If anything flying is Aion's version of swimming since it acts like many swimming mechanics would, but instead of leaving it as an after-thought (because swimming has TOTALLY been an important factor in judging a MMORPG!!!1 we all know how important swimming is in WoW!!!) they actually make flying (a.k.a. swimming) meaningful.
*sigh*
again, since when has swimming been an important factor within MMORPGs yet alone games in general?
Think before you post buddy.
"Not a retired MMORPG.com mod"
Lol with posts like this I certainly hope you aren't.
Well how come they have flying fish in the lakes if we can't swim?
Actually in all seriousness I can live without swimming. I just really enjoyed the under water breathing in mmorpgs. The good ol EQ days were a blast raiding under water and someone forgetting to keep you water breathing as you gurgle and die.
Just adds a bit more fun to the game, but won't hurt it.
PS I'm just happy you can sheathe weapons!! Now "that" ruins a game for me if you can't!
I'd be more impressed if you went in water and began to sink when wearing standard plate armor than if you could swim wearing full plate and carrying a sword and board. That would be a RPG to me.
I really don't care if they add swimming to the game or not.. How many of you just jump into some random body of water and start swimming around on a daily basis? If you were walking somewhere and a lake got in your way, would you just dive in and swim across or walk around?
As for me I wouldn't and I rarely swim so no swimming in the game actually is realistic for me at least.
I'd be more impressed if you went in water and began to sink when wearing standard plate armor than if you could swim wearing full plate and carrying a sword and board. That would be a RPG to me.
I cannot believe you linked this as evidence... unless your kidding? I hope your kidding.
Sitting down in waist high water in aluminium chain is really not what people were talking about here.
On topic though, the running in water is lame. It's fluff, sure, but it's still lame for a modern mmorpg. My GF is making me play Aion with her, so I will do my best to just ignore it. But it is lame.
I really don't care if they add swimming to the game or not.. How many of you just jump into some random body of water and start swimming around on a daily basis? If you were walking somewhere and a lake got in your way, would you just dive in and swim across or walk around? As for me I wouldn't and I rarely swim so no swimming in the game actually is realistic for me at least.
In real life, depending on where I lived I would swim. I lived in Hawaii for some time and went swimming all the time. The ocean is a huge place and it was everywhere! LOL But real life is real life and we're talking a game here.
For a game like WoW. I see a good size body of water or stream and I'll stop and go jump in it. I explore constantly in that game. I probably spend a good 1/5th of my time in the waters in the game of WoW if not more. In fact in one of my blogs I wrote I asked that Blizzard make a water borne race so that we can have more water based quest and underwater areas to explore. Yep.
Originally posted by Teala For a game like WoW. I see a good size body of water or stream and I'll stop and go jump in it. I explore constantly in that game. I probably spend a good 1/5th of my time in the waters in the game of WoW if not more. In fact in one of my blogs I wrote I asked that Blizzard make a water borne race so that we can have more water based quest and underwater areas to explore. Yep.
@.
And to anyone that wants them to add swimming... I guess I wouldn't care if they did but I'd much rather them focus on other aspects of the game than this.
I really don't care if they add swimming to the game or not.. How many of you just jump into some random body of water and start swimming around on a daily basis? If you were walking somewhere and a lake got in your way, would you just dive in and swim across or walk around? As for me I wouldn't and I rarely swim so no swimming in the game actually is realistic for me at least.
In real life, depending on where I lived I would swim. I lived in Hawaii for some time and went swimming all the time. The ocean is a huge place and it was everywhere! LOL But real life is real life and we're talking a game here.
For a game like WoW. I see a good size body of water or stream and I'll stop and go jump in it. I explore constantly in that game. I probably spend a good 1/5th of my time in the waters in the game of WoW if not more. In fact in one of my blogs I wrote I asked that Blizzard make a water borne race so that we can have more water based quest and underwater areas to explore. Yep.
Yeah I did swim a lot in WoW and I had some fun times exploring and stuff. But in RL if I lived in Hawaii I still wouldn't swim much, I just am not a big fan of swiming at all I guess im just lame. lol
The whole not swimming thing really irks me, not because of the very lack of swimming but because it makes me lose faith in the company's ability at game design. Not being able to swim, period, makes no sense at all. It completely destroys immersion and just shows a lack of polish when you have beautiful flight animations and attack animations and you jump in the water and . . . oh wait I'm walking like normal on the ground but taking damage.
Using the whole "oh but they're using as borders for the levels" excuse is crap, just pull a WoW (hey wouldn't hurt them taking ONE MORE thing from the game) and do a deep water kind of effect where swimming in certain areas hurts you a lot but swimming in the rest is fine. BAM problem solved, and the game looks more polished.
Silly question I guess, but can you not swim in this game? I just ran into water and started taking damage. The message was that I had entered water over my head and that I needed to get out? So I am assuming that there is no swimming in Aion. Is this correct? Also, I thought it was sort of odd that I just kept running at normal speed under water. Seemed out of place since all the other animations seem so well done.
Not being able to swim matters, why?
Seriously, get some perspective on what ACTUALLY matters in an MMO.
Silly question I guess, but can you not swim in this game? I just ran into water and started taking damage. The message was that I had entered water over my head and that I needed to get out? So I am assuming that there is no swimming in Aion. Is this correct? Also, I thought it was sort of odd that I just kept running at normal speed under water. Seemed out of place since all the other animations seem so well done.
Not being able to swim matters, why?
Seriously, get some perspective on what ACTUALLY matters in an MMO.
Well, in an MMO-FPS I can swim. Like in CS:S. Hold the space bar and quickly bounce across the water to quickly pwn you, mua haha
Do you have the willpower to delete YOUR wow toons? XD
PS I'm just happy you can sheathe weapons!! Now "that" ruins a game for me if you can't!
This. I hated Neverwinter Nights 2 for this. I love to actually play my character and not being able to sheathe my weapon boggled me =( I still ran the game 3 times anyway, and I will still play Aion no matter how they manage the swimming.
Honestly, when I posted this, I didn't think it would be a big deal either way. It just seems silly that the devs didn't put swimming into the game, especially when everything else I've seen has looked pretty polished so far. As for some of the comments regarding only deep water off of cliffs -- I didn't encounter this mechanic anywhere near a cliff. I was still in the noobie area close to the strip mine when I saw a pond with a large glowing ball on the otherside. I thought, "hmm, I wonder what that is?" I tried to swim over to explore it, and instead of swimming I found myself running under water with no movement penalty at all and taking serious damage. I still don't know what the glowing ball was, as I was forced to run back to shore. So much for exploration and immersion IMO. As for the guy that said if this was the only thing to complain about, the game must be okay. I really wasn't complaining so much as I was questioning. As good as Aion is, there are still plenty of things I could complain about (invisible walls, silly restrictions, etc.). No game is perfect and there's always room for improvement, but that wasn't the point of my post. Oh - and as for the argument about plate armor weighing me down for realism -- I play a sorcerer in cloth armor and a fair amount of skin. If we were going for realism, wouldn't the mechanic operate differently for characters based on the weight they were carrying? See, realism isn't the reason for no swimming. In fact, it's not even a good excuse in a game based on complete fantasy. Anywho, I am hopefully that swimming is in a later version of the game. We can never have too much polish or too many options as far as I'm concerned. P.s. - To the guy who said if I want to swim, go swimming in RL. I'd like to respond with if you want to fly, jump off your roof in RL. See how stupid that sounds?
honestly if you had looked there is already alot of posts already on here about it,and every troll that makes it into a HUGE deal, are never going to play the game at launch in the first place and just use "omg no swimming" as troll bait nothing more.water is just boundries and i could have done without swimming in every game released to date and still enjoyed them as much.
wow also has water boundries once you go out so far you'll drown, EVEN if you're using walk on water or druid seal form (wich is a waterbreathing animal)...you still start taking dmg and drown.some one said they liked exploring wow with swimming..what did you explore? their water boundry is like 50 yards off the shore you can see where the boundry is from it.
eqoa you could swim out in one direction forever no boundries but if you tried to swim back to shore it took like 5 min. you wasn't swimming in place,kinda just put you at the beginging of the "open sea N" everytime you hit the end zone border. eqoa actually had a raid boss in the open sea, but everyone hated fighting in water,it was annoying, so he rarely got killed. even with the alchemists breath under water pills it was just a pain to organize,pills only stacked to 3 and fights lasted a long time could run out before its over and alc had to try and remake pills for everyone and hand them out before they drowned, and it was a 40 man if i remember right been a long time. and once was enough for me, and everyone else i knew that killed him.
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That does it , canceling Aion and subbing to Darkfall, swimming is my life, even my cyber life.
There are areas in the game that if you were to fall in the water you have to die just to get out, So swimming will not be added because they would have to make major changes the the landscape.
Not having swimming in Aion is just another plus in my book.
Swimming in LOTRO is nothing but an annoyance and a waste of time.
In Evendim I've literally started swimming, made a sandwich, poured a glass of water, gone to the bathroom, and made it back before reaching the other shore.
If that's what I'll be missing in Aion, thank god!
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
I don't think people will listen to this sadly. I've tried explaining it until I was blue in the face but they still don't get it, haha.
That's true. They wont change the landscape just to add a feature that isn't needed.
I just think of it like im playing an aviant race
similar to birds, Asmo/elyo's would drown if submerged completely under water.
and no we are not ducks.
I see the fact that one cannot swim in the world of Atreia as a plus. When I swim in most other MMOs, I feel I just hack or such. Who would actually ruin its clothes, or even its plate armor with (potentially salted) water? Well, I guess someone who keeps their clothes dry even when completely drown in water =/
Disturbing at first, but I quickly got used to it and adopted it
(Also it reminds me of Zelda and the iron boots ^^ )
"When all else fails, send a Templar."
Honestly, when I posted this, I didn't think it would be a big deal either way. It just seems silly that the devs didn't put swimming into the game, especially when everything else I've seen has looked pretty polished so far. As for some of the comments regarding only deep water off of cliffs -- I didn't encounter this mechanic anywhere near a cliff. I was still in the noobie area close to the strip mine when I saw a pond with a large glowing ball on the otherside. I thought, "hmm, I wonder what that is?" I tried to swim over to explore it, and instead of swimming I found myself running under water with no movement penalty at all and taking serious damage. I still don't know what the glowing ball was, as I was forced to run back to shore. So much for exploration and immersion IMO.
As for the guy that said if this was the only thing to complain about, the game must be okay. I really wasn't complaining so much as I was questioning. As good as Aion is, there are still plenty of things I could complain about (invisible walls, silly restrictions, etc.). No game is perfect and there's always room for improvement, but that wasn't the point of my post.
Oh - and as for the argument about plate armor weighing me down for realism -- I play a sorcerer in cloth armor and a fair amount of skin. If we were going for realism, wouldn't the mechanic operate differently for characters based on the weight they were carrying? See, realism isn't the reason for no swimming. In fact, it's not even a good excuse in a game based on complete fantasy.
Anywho, I am hopefully that swimming is in a later version of the game. We can never have too much polish or too many options as far as I'm concerned.
P.s. - To the guy who said if I want to swim, go swimming in RL. I'd like to respond with if you want to fly, jump off your roof in RL. See how stupid that sounds?
I think they will definitely add swimming because a lot of people are annoyed by the lack of it, including myself.
While they might add swimming at a later date it would be in a completely new zone because the way deep water works currently is as zone borders.
The way Aion is currently set up there is no where in the game that you would need to swim.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
Firstly, I have never heard Aion being called next gen, nor would I call anything next gen until a game or games can establish themselves as next generation.
Secondly, since when has swimming so important in gaming that next generation games REQUIRE it? If anything flying is Aion's version of swimming since it acts like many swimming mechanics would, but instead of leaving it as an after-thought (because swimming has TOTALLY been an important factor in judging a MMORPG!!!1 we all know how important swimming is in WoW!!!) they actually make flying (a.k.a. swimming) meaningful.
*sigh*
again, since when has swimming been an important factor within MMORPGs yet alone games in general?
Think before you post buddy.
"Not a retired MMORPG.com mod"
Lol with posts like this I certainly hope you aren't.
Amen brother!!!
Well how come they have flying fish in the lakes if we can't swim?
Actually in all seriousness I can live without swimming. I just really enjoyed the under water breathing in mmorpgs. The good ol EQ days were a blast raiding under water and someone forgetting to keep you water breathing as you gurgle and die.
Just adds a bit more fun to the game, but won't hurt it.
PS I'm just happy you can sheathe weapons!! Now "that" ruins a game for me if you can't!
I'd be more impressed if you went in water and began to sink when wearing standard plate armor than if you could swim wearing full plate and carrying a sword and board. That would be a RPG to me.
so...
I really don't care if they add swimming to the game or not.. How many of you just jump into some random body of water and start swimming around on a daily basis? If you were walking somewhere and a lake got in your way, would you just dive in and swim across or walk around?
As for me I wouldn't and I rarely swim so no swimming in the game actually is realistic for me at least.
Except that it's possible to swim in full plate.
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lmao
I cannot believe you linked this as evidence... unless your kidding? I hope your kidding.
Sitting down in waist high water in aluminium chain is really not what people were talking about here.
On topic though, the running in water is lame. It's fluff, sure, but it's still lame for a modern mmorpg. My GF is making me play Aion with her, so I will do my best to just ignore it. But it is lame.
In real life, depending on where I lived I would swim. I lived in Hawaii for some time and went swimming all the time. The ocean is a huge place and it was everywhere! LOL But real life is real life and we're talking a game here.
For a game like WoW. I see a good size body of water or stream and I'll stop and go jump in it. I explore constantly in that game. I probably spend a good 1/5th of my time in the waters in the game of WoW if not more. In fact in one of my blogs I wrote I asked that Blizzard make a water borne race so that we can have more water based quest and underwater areas to explore. Yep.
@.
And to anyone that wants them to add swimming... I guess I wouldn't care if they did but I'd much rather them focus on other aspects of the game than this.
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In real life, depending on where I lived I would swim. I lived in Hawaii for some time and went swimming all the time. The ocean is a huge place and it was everywhere! LOL But real life is real life and we're talking a game here.
For a game like WoW. I see a good size body of water or stream and I'll stop and go jump in it. I explore constantly in that game. I probably spend a good 1/5th of my time in the waters in the game of WoW if not more. In fact in one of my blogs I wrote I asked that Blizzard make a water borne race so that we can have more water based quest and underwater areas to explore. Yep.
Yeah I did swim a lot in WoW and I had some fun times exploring and stuff. But in RL if I lived in Hawaii I still wouldn't swim much, I just am not a big fan of swiming at all I guess im just lame. lol
The whole not swimming thing really irks me, not because of the very lack of swimming but because it makes me lose faith in the company's ability at game design. Not being able to swim, period, makes no sense at all. It completely destroys immersion and just shows a lack of polish when you have beautiful flight animations and attack animations and you jump in the water and . . . oh wait I'm walking like normal on the ground but taking damage.
Using the whole "oh but they're using as borders for the levels" excuse is crap, just pull a WoW (hey wouldn't hurt them taking ONE MORE thing from the game) and do a deep water kind of effect where swimming in certain areas hurts you a lot but swimming in the rest is fine. BAM problem solved, and the game looks more polished.
well in l2 play nc added underwater areas to explore so who knows they could technically add it in at some point
Not being able to swim matters, why?
Seriously, get some perspective on what ACTUALLY matters in an MMO.
Not being able to swim matters, why?
Seriously, get some perspective on what ACTUALLY matters in an MMO.
Well, in an MMO-FPS I can swim. Like in CS:S. Hold the space bar and quickly bounce across the water to quickly pwn you, mua haha
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This. I hated Neverwinter Nights 2 for this. I love to actually play my character and not being able to sheathe my weapon boggled me =( I still ran the game 3 times anyway, and I will still play Aion no matter how they manage the swimming.
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honestly if you had looked there is already alot of posts already on here about it,and every troll that makes it into a HUGE deal, are never going to play the game at launch in the first place and just use "omg no swimming" as troll bait nothing more.water is just boundries and i could have done without swimming in every game released to date and still enjoyed them as much.
wow also has water boundries once you go out so far you'll drown, EVEN if you're using walk on water or druid seal form (wich is a waterbreathing animal)...you still start taking dmg and drown.some one said they liked exploring wow with swimming..what did you explore? their water boundry is like 50 yards off the shore you can see where the boundry is from it.
eqoa you could swim out in one direction forever no boundries but if you tried to swim back to shore it took like 5 min. you wasn't swimming in place,kinda just put you at the beginging of the "open sea N" everytime you hit the end zone border. eqoa actually had a raid boss in the open sea, but everyone hated fighting in water,it was annoying, so he rarely got killed. even with the alchemists breath under water pills it was just a pain to organize,pills only stacked to 3 and fights lasted a long time could run out before its over and alc had to try and remake pills for everyone and hand them out before they drowned, and it was a 40 man if i remember right been a long time. and once was enough for me, and everyone else i knew that killed him.