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Chris Matthews.. eight minutes of beatdown on a gun toting townyeller
popinjay
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Chris Matthews Unloads On Protester Who Carried Gun To Obama Event
This was the funniest thing I've ever seen. Matthews raked this moron over the coals.
This gun guy's deflections, soapbox speeches about liberty, tyrants and tyranny, his inability to explain why he wore a gun to a townhall meeting and nonsense in general regarding the meeting reminds me of a person here who always falls back to that soapbox. His sign fits too, lol.
Given how he explains the gun, I wouldn't be surprised if it is the same person at all. I swear, if it's NOT him they must all read from the same talking points.
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I think he explained why he had a gun. He lives in a state where you can carry a loaded weapon in public. Its the norm for him. He also wants to bring the nation back to the time before income taxes and large federal governments. In that time it was common for people to attend presidential events with loaded weapons.
As far as coming up with canned answers, I think that should also be easy to explain. Any plant is going to use canned answers and sound bytes. They aren't going to get on the podium and say, "Hey this bill is 1500 pages and not 1 addresses lowering the costs of healthcare." They are there to take press away from the guy who said that and make people think the opposing side has no real view on the subject matter. This guy was on MSNBC after all. They have no interest in bringing actual arguments against socialist agenda.
You summed it up pretty darn well. Good job!
BTW, I carry a gun too.
So? What's the problem with that OP?
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Popinjay, you really failed on this one.
That guy sounded totally intelligent and rational to me. Matthews sounded like a screaming s.o.b. Just because someone carries a gun it does not make them violent or show criminal intent. It makes them more able to defend themselves when things go bad.
My reaction was very similar. I wrote a response, but then I deleted it because I did not want popinjay to think that I was criticizing him personally or something.
Moreover, I thought it was Matthews who was trying to unsuccessfully incite something. Worse, I thought it was Matthews who was linking assassination with the right to carry. It was such a stretch as to border the absurd.
If anything, my concern was two-fold: (1) I anticipate more of these individuals to participate; and (2) they are seemingly calm and logical. I watched some of the townyeller stuff, and my concern is not that they are artificial. Rather, my concern is that they are real and there is some real frustration and ignorance out there. My fear, however, is not with the right to carry.
Instead, my fear is that nothing will be done with health care because of (a) ideology or (b) ignorance.
Wow. Chris Matthews just lost that hard... And I agree there was a beatdown but it was Matthews that recived it...
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
That was embarrasing to watch so I stopped it early...
It was more of the same - just more discussions about anything except the issue that should be discussed...
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
Yeah. I have to admit that was a bad interview. Matthews seem to be trying to trap this guy with the questions he was asking. However, I don't think someone should be taking a gun to a townhall meeting. I don't care where they are from or what the culture is in the state they live in. That may have been ok in the 19th and early 20th century but these days it's an invitation to trouble for everyone involved.
Mathews got his ass handed to him. That's all I got to say about that.
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I underlined the part I really wanted to capture.
You forget essentially that is what society has been programmed to believe of those who care to bare arms.
So no matter what, how many people you try and tell this to, it will not be listened to.
Society has been reprogrammed to see those with guns as the bad guys.
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I'd say Chrissy got owned on this one.
You mean he reminded you of me popinjay? Are you calling me out here? I imagine so, because you often make the same weak, pitiful, personal attacks against me.
If so, yes, it looked similar. Left wing elitist gets his butt handed to him by a regular guy who just believes in individual liberty. However, I do not carry.
However, remember, YOU are the one who believes guns are needed for everything, including charity. But for you, the gun is held by the government against disarmed citizens.
As always, on that issue, I respectfully disagree.
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I am trying to figure out where the video is of Mathews raking anyone, in fact, in this video he even expressed agreement with the man he was speaking to in this interview. I don't see that the man did anything wrong, he did not appear threatening or even intimidating. I never once saw in the footage him going anywhere near the firearm, even unstrapping it or anything... I am used to seeing people strapping on firearms in these parts, so that is completely normal in this country. The Black Panther guy that was yelling at people and shaking a billy club outside of the polling boothese last election was far more threatening than this guy. It would have been fine if they had been standing there peacefully as this guy was with firearms strapped rather than yelling and shaking billy clubs. Now that is madness..
Yes this is America, where we have the right to keep and bear arms. If more citizens actually did this, the crime rates would drop, there would be less threats of gangs and assinations because the citizens could put a stop to that craziness before it ever got out of hand. If this was an attempt to portray all these citizens that are upset with the policies that are being implemented as an " angry mob" or crazy uninformed birthers and such, it backfired on him pretty bad. All he proved with this interview is that the people are peacefully protesting and exercising their constitutional rights that our forefathers gave their lives to protect.
Popinjay, would you like to explain where in this video he raked this guy?
As I said in the other thread, the sign was in very bad taste. It's not a good idea to even indirectly threaten the president that way. The gun I have no problem with.
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Ah, I didn't see this thread. Didn't need to start the other one. My bad.
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BTW, I carry a gun too.
So? What's the problem with that OP?
People carry handguns in a leg holster like that for either offensive or defensive purposes. They either feel threatened and wear them "just in case" or they wear them because they are responding to trouble that needs firepower. Sane people don't wear a gun in a thigh holster rig as an "accessory piece", unless they have some deep insecurity complex problem somewhere.
The President of the United States has the most personal security than any other person in the country. He's showing up to a local publicized event without tanks and among the average citizens. Tons of local police and other law enforcement as well are going to be there. And this retard shows up with a gun because he feels "safer"? Wtf?
Plus, this guy's sign was alluding to "blood begin shed". "It's time to water the tree of liberty"? The tree of liberty was "watered" or refreshed with blood, and he shows up with a gun at a peaceful event alluding to bloodshed. You don't get the innuendo?
If he claims he's not scared for his defense, then why is he wearing a gun? Just... because? If hes scared for his life, then why show up? Can you really not see that big picture and what's wrong with that logic?
"TO MICHAEL!"
That town hall meeting was probably the safest place for anyone to be at, given the amount of overall security there. You probably found more of a concentration of professional law enforcement in that one place protecting the President and his staff than anywhere in the state that day.
Defend himself from what, exactly?
"TO MICHAEL!"
Maybe someone who tries to mug him or attack him. If the Chinese suddenly invaded. Maybe he carried it for fear of being raped by an old lady.
It matters not the reason, or what he wanted to defend himself from, but what matters is he was not breaking the law and he was executing his rights as a U.S. citizen.
His sign was a quote from one of our founding fathers in reference to revolution, and the necessity of it. As he was rebelling by attending a peaceful protest it makes perfect sense. Why should our current leaders be intimidated or threatened by what the founders of this country believed? If he is no tyrant he has nothing to worry about right?
Actually here in Texas, people put on their side arm everywhere they go, not as " an accessory" but it is a tool, just like others walk around with their cell phone, you never know when you might need your firearm. Do you think that the people who are mugged know when they are going to get mugged and only bring something to defnd themselves at that point? The truth is, you never know when something is going to happen and it is better to be prepared rather than be caught with your pants down.
If you think about it, do you think some punk is more likely to run up and try to mug the armed guy, or would they go after the guy that appears as if he cannot defend themselves? Theives are cowards and go for easy targets, if you do not appear as an easy target they are less likely to target you. That is just common sense.
I can just picture Chis Matthews after the interview screaming to his producer -- God damm it. This guy wasn't a raving lunatic. Next time find one.
It matters not the reason, or what he wanted to defend himself from, but what matters is he was not breaking the law and he was executing his rights as a U.S. citizen.
It matters the reason when you hold up a sign like that. I simply have no idea why you don't see the correlation there.
Gun people really don't seem to be too logical here.
"TO MICHAEL!"
It matters not the reason, or what he wanted to defend himself from, but what matters is he was not breaking the law and he was executing his rights as a U.S. citizen.
It matters the reason when you hold up a sign like that. I simply have no idea why you don't see the correlation there.
Gun people really don't seem to be too logical here.
Actually, I see just the opposite. His sign was a direct quote from one of our founding fathers, and a reminder of what they fought and died for. His quote should not be taken as a threat, but a reminder of what this country is supposed to represent. That our freedoms are only here for us to enjoy because we protect them against tyranny, that we must all fight to keep these sacred, and that our government should represent ALL of the people, not just the majority, or the minority. Our country was never set up as a " majority rules the minority" form of government. It was set up to protect EVERYONES rights, not just those that have the power.
Our current and past leaders should take this reminder and remember their true purpose here. Jefferson was right, the government should fear the people, not the people fear the government. That was how it was meant to be. Our government needs to never forget that there is no place in the United States of America for tyrants. Our government should have no reason to fear the wrath of the people if they are doing their job properly.
Even though I started my thread first, I'm going to respond in Sab's thread since it's pretty much identical. There's no reason to keep both going imo.
Anyone still wishing to argue can stay here if you like.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Here is another interviewer getting schooled. Mancow's brother.
edit...odd. keep getting wrong link. Just look up MaxMotors CNN Interview on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNmi-bBhWG8&feature=related
Not sure about that. A billyclub wielding racist vs a loaded gun toting racist? Hmmmm. I could get away from the guy with the stick and possibly survive if he flew off the handle at least.
Many of us own firearms, in this day and age I see no reason to carry one into public myself where many people are gathered (including possibly kids) unless Armageddon happens. The Statement he was making (though it is his right) was hostile, that’s the bottom line. You would have to be an idiot not to get it.
Not sure about that. A billyclub wielding racist vs a loaded gun toting racist? Hmmmm. I could get away from the guy with the stick and possibly survive if he flew off the handle at least.
Many of us own firearms, in this day and age I see no reason to carry one into public myself where many people are gathered (including possibly kids) unless Armageddon happens. The Statement he was making (though it is his right) was hostile, that’s the bottom line. You would have to be an idiot not to get it.
How is this guy a racist?
Not sure about that. A billyclub wielding racist vs a loaded gun toting racist? Hmmmm. I could get away from the guy with the stick and possibly survive if he flew off the handle at least.
Many of us own firearms, in this day and age I see no reason to carry one into public myself where many people are gathered (including possibly kids) unless Armageddon happens. The Statement he was making (though it is his right) was hostile, that’s the bottom line. You would have to be an idiot not to get it.
How is this guy a racist?
havn't you heard?
any person that disagrees with a liberal is a biggot. cnn said so.