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oakfoot
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For all you people who feel like RoM isn't up to your standerds on what the other mmolrpg's have to offer, I suggest you go find a nice game that meets your standerds and start paying the monthly pee.
I personally think your all a bunch of whinners. Froggster has given us a FREE game to play a FREE Download, no hidden costs and if you feel you need to buy diamonds.....the buy them. I personally love the idea of not paying a monthly fee and don't care if I ever have a mount or all the nifty gear you don't have to earn yourself. I've been playing online games since they first hit the web, text, stand alones, muds, 2D and the now 3D 360 degrees worlds or continues landscaps that are waiting to be exploited by willing adventurers.
I've always paid to play them and always had the same grips you folks have because I paid to play them, but not only are you not paying to play but nether am I, and so anything your given in RoM you should be thanking Froggster for rather then whinning about what you don't have, or how messed up one thing or another is.
In conclusion to this rant about the ranters. In all games there's a system, if its offered to you for free, find out the best way to work it to your advantage and run with it. Your not paying for it so you have no right to complain.
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The game is not free, f2p is not free its it just free to play. It would have been free is there was no item shop, so in this case whoever complains not about the game mechanics but about the shop has the right to do so in order for the company to pay some attention to them and hopefully improve the shop not the game its self.
The game is not free, f2p is not free its it just free to play. It would have been free is there was no item shop, so in this case whoever complains not about the game mechanics but about the shop has the right to do so in order for the company to pay some attention to them and hopefully improve the shop not the game its self.
If it wasn't for the shop the company would make no money, no money equal no game, they can switch to sub but then its not f2p for others.
But OP, thats abttle never won, people come here to complain about whatever they can as there life has nothing more important to be done other then discourage people.
Im at work, so I have a few mins from time to time to post. Sure some of the haters are in the same boat as me and just bash to get a rise, whatever works for them I guess.
Enjoy : )
I think the biggest source of complaints against this way of financing a game lies within the fact, that they label them Free To Play.
People have a hard time coping with "free" when, in the end and in most cases the game needs some sort of money thrown towards it for the player to succeed anywhere. Some would even call it lies, and to be honest I understand them.
I think if they started labelling these games "Cash Shop" or something similar from the start, and skipped the term "free", we'd go much easier on them, because everyone can agree it does, in one way or the other cost money to play.
I'm playing Runes of Magic but on a very casual basis and I haven't spent a cent yet. I must admit I was thinking about spending money on a permanent mount, which pretty much equals one months payment in any given P2P MMO. Then I found out you can buy a mount for 3.000 gold which will last you 2 hours. Within this time I noticed that I made enough gold to actually keep a profit before I had to buy a new mount (when I bought the first I had about 70k, and when the time ran out I had about 95k). I'm okay with that so I'm not buying a permament mount.
Now, I had a thought about these Cash Shop games the other day... If one chose to overlook the Cash Shop in the start, as in not buying low level items and the like and instead consider the game a P2P, buying diamonds (in-game currency) each month equal to a normal P2P subscription (roughly 200 diamonds a month), would the player have enough diamonds to get the "neat" stuff for the end-game content? Just a thought though. I'm not gonna try it myself but something tells me it could work.
I normally don't respond to new accounts that create new threads, since I feel people should have the courage to post on their mains. (or the sense to not start new threads if they really are new to the forums) But what the heck, slow day at work.
Of course no one should complain about there being a cash shop. The Dev's do have to make money, and there really is no such thing as a F2P game.
But players are more than within their rights to complain about how powerful the cash shop items make you, especially from a PVP perspective. The best PVP Mage in ROM (Pureevil) is rumored to have spent of $4000.00 USD on his armor set, and he continually improves on it. (take a look at his stats sometimes, they will astound you)
He is a one man wrecking crew, and can easily take down 6-10 other players with ease. (and no doubt his skill comes into play of course, but gear is still a big contributor)
There's a guild (Rouge I believe) of level 25's running around (or was about a month ago) where they all have good (not great) cash shop purchased/enhanced gear. I recall fighting one of their Rogues, a level 25 and it was my son an I who were both level 29, with standard drop gear and it was a Mage/Pally vs him.
As a Pally, I had about 2300 HP's, he had over 4000 HP's. While he did not manage to kill either of us, we could not kill him so he vanished and moved on.
I later fought this same player on my level 39 Rogue, and while I had like 2500 HP's, his 4K HP's almost overcame our level differences. True, I sort of suck at PVP, and he certainly is skilled, but again, his cash shop gear made all the difference.
it is not unusual for most players on both the PvE and PvP servers to spend about 150.00-250.00 for their basic level 50 armor sets, and some classes like Paladins really requirean investment of about 600.00 or so to really tank good instances like Cyclops.
It is true, you can earn most everything in game with enough hard work, but most folks don't realize how much effort we're talking. If playing 8-10 hours a day is your norm, you'll be fine w/o cash shop purchases.
But I assure you, while Pureevil plays that much, it isn't doing PVE, all of his time is spent doing PVP which is the goal on that server for most of us.
Its a good free to play game no doubt, but it does have some balance issues when it comes to the cash shop and it could use some work to improve it.
BTW, I know 1/2 dozen people will probably now jump in and tell me how wrong I am so just to let them know, I don't care.
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You know what? I don't really care. I avoid PvP servers like the plague? Why? The communities there are almost always reported to be awful. And guess what, In PvE, it HELPS to have people who waste their money in the CS.
Also, lets face it, RoM wasn't designed as a PvP game. The PvP on the servers set up for it is a whole morality game where if you kill a bunch of people you get a bad reputation and crap like that. Sorry, but that's pretty lame. There are no arenas, no Servers vs. Server or GvG as promised, no rankings, arenas, battlegrounds, or anything of the sort.
However, the game has a myriad of instances, a massive number of quests, and you can get plenty of great items from these quests and instances. This is the core of the game, and you know what? IMO, it's pretty entertaining. If you don't like the cash shop, or for that matter, anything else about the game, than the OP is right. Go find a different game. If you hate the game so much, then why are you hanging around in forums for the game telling everyone it sucks? Are you that insecure that you have to find others that share your opinion/convince others of said opinion to confirm your beliefs? Do you have really nothing better to do than to bad mouth a game all day in internet forums? Or are you really the adolescent reject that everyone THINKS you are behind that fake username and "Clever" avatar? Whatever the case may be, your opinions been heard, now would you kindly GTFO?
This game seems like shit in a shoe. This could arguably be the worst game I have ever played. No offense meant to those who are enjoying it.
I hate to keep beating a dead horse,but this kind of talk ruined RFO.I said outright that game was kind of cool it had great potential but needed some fixes.All i got was the usual fanbois ridicule and we all know what happened to RFO,dead as a fish outa water.
I know some complaining is ridiculous,but sometimes people have valid points,therefore why would you not want the game to improve or please a larger audience?Improvement is the best possible thing that could happen to a game ,and the only way is for many to speak out.I don't agree with game breaking changes,that ruins the whole design of a game,but i am sure ROM just the same as all other games,has some room for improvement.
I guess if you are a freebie player ,never spending a nickle,then you don't really have a say,but those that are spending have a large say.especially since they keep the game alive.As to thanking Frogster,NO you should be thanking the paying players,Frogster would close this game down in a day if there was no cash flow.Well perhaps that is not entirely true,they probably signed a one year contract maybe 2 IDK the terms,but if it makes no money Frogster would be out after their term.
As for my opinion,the game is decent enough,it offers a wide array of play style,depending on cash shop.I feel for now the game could just use bug fixes,everything else i am fine with,well that and maybe a better tutorial,there is some confusing stuff in ROM.
On a SAD note
i really truly feel sorry for the person who thought up todays BUNNY event,i almost wanted to /world "i think this community is a little aboves WOW's we are not into bunny events",but of course i refrained.I think the lack of support pretty much gave the event person a clue as to it's lameness,was there like 1 maybe 2 people took part?
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My whole issue with the complaints against RoM is they are often done in comparison to P2P games (and yes, GW is P2P). Granted that speaks volumes for how good RoM really is, but it's not doing RoM justice IMO. Compare it to any other F2P and it shines.
Constructive criticism is one thing, but when somebody complains for the sake of complaining, that's another. When you post a complaint, you should always examine the motives behind such a post. If the motives are to offer suggestions for game improvements, then use an appropriate tone. If you have good suggestions for how to improve the game, then you should probably direct to the appropriate people that can do something about it, if you hope to move things along quicker. If the motive is to let off steam about something else in your life, then erase the post and deal with that particular life circumstance.
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It is everyone's right to complain or criticise any game out there. But there is a difference between giving negative opinions once and giving negative opinions often. If the game is not for you, then please find one you like and give support. The world needs more supporters than complainers.
RoM is from an indy developer, which mean they dont have the enormous fundings like the larger titles or cash from previous game successes. And to release it f2p means that they wont have the safty of getting x amount of money from the pre-orders. We all know that there were players that felt cheated when the game they pre-paid for wasnt as good. RoM took the risk and offered it f2p. Atleast according to Frogster's news, RoM is still increasing in size and gaining more and more players! I hope one day it will be good enough to convert some of the complainers into supporters.
I find it hard to believe anyone can complain about free2play games. I have been playing it casually for about a month and have really enjoyed the game so far.
I have played both EQ2 and WoW and I feel this game is a good mixture of the two. Another plus is it's decent sized player base. To those of you who haven't tried the game I would sum it up as cross of EQ2 and WoW. It's questing is better like EQ2's and its graphics are more along the lines WOW (maybe a little better - not as cartoony ).
I have been in RoM for about 2 months now. I very much enjoy it and have spent a few dollars buying a per mount, crafting items for my house, etc. The housing items are nice to gain rested XP/TP and the crafting items so you can craft without fear of getting ganked (PVP server).
I feel this is a great game that can be enjoyed without spending any money. You can sell your gold on the AH for diamonds, yes the conversion rate sucks but still it's possible. Then you could get a per mount, you can also provide services to other players, for example run ppl through dungeons and the payment is diamonds or items from the item shop (you can send gifts to other ppl)
You 100% do not need to spend RL $$ for this game. There are a variety of items that make the game more exciting if you do spend money but again are not required. It technically is F2P, if you want to be elite at PVP than it is P2P. I think all the ranting comes from ppl that see an advertised F2P game (technically true) and then realize to get the elite gear they may need to shell out a few bucks.
I look at it this way, if I enjoy it then I don't mind spending a few bucks on it. After all, nothing in this world is free.
Hi guys. I don't post much on these forums anymore do to these tired arguments, the pointless trolling, and bickering. But since I've started playing RoM again I thought I would chime in on this.
To the OP...dude, you aren't going to win this fight. It has been done before in all the F2P Cash shop game threads on this site. People are going to complain no mater what. Some of the people who rip on RoM, and the other Cash Shop games, I don't even think they have played the games. They just troll to get a rise out of people.
The reoccurring complainer themes seem to be:
1. Hey, it says it's F2P. What gives? The game company should be working for free and pay their bills with hopes, dreams, and rainbows.
2. The game company is "taking advantage of me" or "ripping me off" by using the Cash Shop System.
3. This guy spent $50 on CS gear and I spent zero in CS. He has an edge over me in PvP. THAT'S NOT FAIR!
4. What? The game has a Cash Shop. Well it must be just another crappy asian game. Pffft...don't waste your time.
I think RoM is one of the better F2P games. To me, some of the stuff in the Cash Shop are great. The perma-mounts are a godsend and save tons of time in wasted traveling. I played WoW and just hated the fact that we had to wait to a certain level to get a mount. Now you can get one at level one. The other stuff in the CS I'm still on the fence about.
My only complaint about the RoM Cash Shop system is the housing stuff. Part of the fun for me in a game with housing is decorating. In RoM you only get 10 slots for furnature. To get more slots you need to buy energy, which you can use to add more furnature slots. I just don't like the ratio you have to spend to decorate houses. They should at least give us 20 to 30 slots right away. I bought the two story house upgrade, and it looks almost empty with only 10 furnature items. I don't mind spending money on the game, but the energy system seems too much, I guess.
Correct me if im wrong ,im downloading the game , and did some research,
Can´t you buy diamonds of the Auction house with ingame money?
This means even w-o spending real money you can use the shop, so i honestly fail to see the problem here,
i am all anti micro-pay systems, but there are gold farmers on all mayor games,and sell it to the people who whant the easy way towards items etc, but here is legal.
Anyways im not playing the game yet nor im trolling ,but exactly this , and becouse is a PvE game is why im gonna give it a try.If the stupid corrupted downloads stops that is....
I don't know how anyone can say this is the worst game they've ever played, when you look at some of the unmitigated shit that's available on the market these days. You mustn't play very much, mate!
The fact is that as a f2p, RoM is really very good. Sure, they've thieved mercilessly from WoW, but why wouldn't they try to emulate something that's been so successful?
RoM looks very good and there's plenty in there to keep you busy for a long time- and the community is really active and friendly. It reminds me a little of WoW in its early days.
As for the cash shop, well, these guys are running a business at the end of the day and they've worked hard to produce a game that people can get a lot of fun out of, so maybe it's not unreasonable to say to people, how about spending a few quid in our cash shop in return? I bought a mount, which cost me about £13, and I consider it a pretty fair return for all the entertainment I've had in the game, and am continuing to have.
Well done to Frogster, this is a great little game and well worth a go for anyone who enjoys WoW but might be a little jaded...