"I don't like Blizzard, I'm planning on playing FFXIV anyway, lets go on the WoW forms and stir up a hornets nest."
Not going to fall for it.
Besides its not another "Draenai" thing, Nei were in WARCRAFT 3 THE FROZEN THRONE. They exsisted in Warcraft lore, it was not a huge suprise to have them introduced.
If anything you should be complaining its another "Naxx" because that is EXACTLY what it is, they're rehashing old raids for newer content. Why?
I've never done Onyxia, I only played very casually pre BC, I think it would be fun to fight her now as an actual challenging boss.
Sorry, Blizzard isn't catering to the people who have subscribed since day one, they are making a game that EVERYONE can enjoy, I'm sure many of the old school players are excited to hear about this, I know a lot of people who used to raid Pre BC are in my raiding guild now, and they are psyched about this.
Facts are important things, you should use them and know them, not twist them like you have been doing.
So what I'm hearing from your post is. "I don't like Blizzard, I'm planning on playing FFXIV anyway, lets go on the WoW forms and stir up a hornets nest." Not going to fall for it. Besides its not another "Draenai" thing, Nei were in WARCRAFT 3 THE FROZEN THRONE. They exsisted in Warcraft lore, it was not a huge suprise to have them introduced. If anything you should be complaining its another "Naxx" because that is EXACTLY what it is, they're rehashing old raids for newer content. Why? I've never done Onyxia, I only played very casually pre BC, I think it would be fun to fight her now as an actual challenging boss. Sorry, Blizzard isn't catering to the people who have subscribed since day one, they are making a game that EVERYONE can enjoy, I'm sure many of the old school players are excited to hear about this, I know a lot of people who used to raid Pre BC are in my raiding guild now, and they are psyched about this. Facts are important things, you should use them and know them, not twist them like you have been doing.
It is called frustration because these guys played games that no longer are playable... because of WOW's success.
Originally posted by Leucrotta which games are that?
Which games are those?
I dunno I'd have to say a lot of games that didn't make it because they didn't feel polished enough to even be called "wow clones"
The Sims Online was pretty bad, but I bet it would have done better if there wasnt' a monster like WoW takin up so many Subs, same goes for Matrix online, DAOC, ShadowBane died pretty much because of a combination of WoW's influence and its inability to keep up with the times.
A lot of games have suffered because of the monster that is WoW.
Its just how many other computer companies went out of business because of how successful IBM was.
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
Originally posted by Leucrotta which games are that?
Which games are those?
I dunno I'd have to say a lot of games that didn't make it because they didn't feel polished enough to even be called "wow clones"
The Sims Online was pretty bad, but I bet it would have done better if there wasnt' a monster like WoW takin up so many Subs, same goes for Matrix online, DAOC, ShadowBane died pretty much because of a combination of WoW's influence and its inability to keep up with the times.
A lot of games have suffered because of the monster that is WoW.
Its just how many other computer companies went out of business because of how successful IBM was.
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
While I agree to some extent, most of the WoW population is actually people WoW brought into the genre people who would never have played EQ2 or any other MMO in the first place, so overall I think the benefit is for everyone that now those people want to explore other possibilites and other types of MMOs there is a much bigger market for new MMOs.
I dont necessarily think "recycling" old content is a bad idea all together, its alot better than allowing people to go there with a group of 3 people and just kill it, with 10 and 25 possibilities it means people will be able to experience the fights more or less how they were before instead of just steam rolling everything, but thats just me.
Originally posted by Leucrotta which games are that?
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
But that dusnt make EQ2 or COH etc unplayable
if a game failes its because the devs didnt deliver, but not because of WoW
AoC and WAR show that there still is a good market in MMOS, even when WoW is at his top those 2 games had huge box sales, if they both did what it said on the box im sure alot of people would have still enjoyed playing those 2 games
Originally posted by Leucrotta which games are that?
Which games are those?
I dunno I'd have to say a lot of games that didn't make it because they didn't feel polished enough to even be called "wow clones"
The Sims Online was pretty bad, but I bet it would have done better if there wasnt' a monster like WoW takin up so many Subs, same goes for Matrix online, DAOC, ShadowBane died pretty much because of a combination of WoW's influence and its inability to keep up with the times.
A lot of games have suffered because of the monster that is WoW.
Its just how many other computer companies went out of business because of how successful IBM was.
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
While I agree to some extent, most of the WoW population is actually people WoW brought into the genre people who would never have played EQ2 or any other MMO in the first place, so overall I think the benefit is for everyone that now those people want to explore other possibilites and other types of MMOs there is a much bigger market for new MMOs.
I dont necessarily think "recycling" old content is a bad idea all together, its alot better than allowing people to go there with a group of 3 people and just kill it, with 10 and 25 possibilities it means people will be able to experience the fights more or less how they were before instead of just steam rolling everything, but thats just me.
eq2 biggest nono ,was,is and will be system requirement,it would be very popular even now if it wasnt for the fact that this game always took a big computer .wich prevented lot of gamer to actually play it .
Lame change, if they really wanted to do something cool, they would have made something in Wyrmrest Temple. Also, what about Quel'serar, Rhok'delar and most important, Onyxia Scale Cloak? Are they really gonna spit in 60 xplocked raiding guilds' face and make T2 undoable?
Originally posted by Leucrotta which games are that?
Which games are those?
I dunno I'd have to say a lot of games that didn't make it because they didn't feel polished enough to even be called "wow clones"
The Sims Online was pretty bad, but I bet it would have done better if there wasnt' a monster like WoW takin up so many Subs, same goes for Matrix online, DAOC, ShadowBane died pretty much because of a combination of WoW's influence and its inability to keep up with the times.
A lot of games have suffered because of the monster that is WoW.
Its just how many other computer companies went out of business because of how successful IBM was.
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
While I agree to some extent, most of the WoW population is actually people WoW brought into the genre people who would never have played EQ2 or any other MMO in the first place, so overall I think the benefit is for everyone that now those people want to explore other possibilites and other types of MMOs there is a much bigger market for new MMOs.
I dont necessarily think "recycling" old content is a bad idea all together, its alot better than allowing people to go there with a group of 3 people and just kill it, with 10 and 25 possibilities it means people will be able to experience the fights more or less how they were before instead of just steam rolling everything, but thats just me.
eq2 biggest nono ,was,is and will be system requirement,it would be very popular even now if it wasnt for the fact that this game always took a big computer .wich prevented lot of gamer to actually play it .
Even players who had rigs strong enough to play the game left, because it wasn't that good. There is a reason soe spent the first two years revamping all the core designs of the gameplay and they didn't spend time revamping the game engine. The message was pretty clear that people didn't enjoy the game and that was what soe responded to.
People keep talking about other mmos as if they are some deep dark secrect kept hidden away in the dark corners of the internet which they are not. If these games were as good as people think, then more people would play them. Word of mouth would spread, people would continue after the free trials.
As for revamping old content, I'm fine with it as long as that is not the only thing being done. I really enjoyed the revamp of cazic thule in everquest and it allowed people to experience a zone they enjoyed once more. I don't see people whining about the revamp of lavastorm in eq2. What is so different in this situation? I'm sure there are millions of players who never saw ony when it was a level appropriate encounter. If it is done right it will enhance the game.
This is great news. Would love if they did the remaining raids and add heroic versions to the original dungeons aswell. Ony was my favourite fight when WoW came out (our guild got up to 4H in Naxx). Can't wait to give it another proper go, have soloed her a few times.
It completely staggers me how people still find it strange that Blizzard completely screws lore to achieve their purposes... lol
But yet, probably 90% of the player base dont even know who is Onyxia and what was her agenda and the Black Dragonflight., im not surprised about this being a well received patch
Blizzard is bringing back a classic raid as a special event for the 5 year anniversary and all the WoW haters cram in here with torches and pitchforks proclaiming "lazy Blizzard".
I saw this coming and if you didnt then you havent been paying attention.
Blizzard is bringing back a classic raid as a special event for the 5 year anniversary and all the WoW haters cram in here with torches and pitchforks proclaiming "lazy Blizzard". I saw this coming and if you didnt then you havent been paying attention.
Yes, and this will basically disable BWL and AQ chain for 60 raiding guilds, just when Blizzard implemented the option to lock your experience. These aren't exactly light consequences.
Seriously they might as well bring back BWL since it's one of there best instances and throw in a few 310% mounts there as well. All anyone talks about these days when regarding to raiding is old instances and when they can kill the Lich King.
This game has always been casual. It only took 3 years for Blizzard and the Hardcores to understand this. Why we have raids above 10 man is beyond me. Try to get 24 people to show up every raid night 3-4 nights a weeks is near impossible and back in old wow it wasn't any different.
Think back when stratholm was 10 man. We are seeing the same deal again in Wrath. You'll find more people running 5 and 10 mans then you will see running 25 man content. Sure we are now seeing 25 man pug content but, honsty don't tell me you didn't see this coming.
Raiding is dead in terms how we knew it and now the new chapter of the casual player is taking over.
Blizzard is going to do whatever they "Feel" would keep players around and keep playing. Raiding content made casual and puggable might just do that.
As for flying around on a mini Ony.... Well that's freaking amazing considering most of the time you would think when running a 25 man Uladar for the first time you'd hear Jeff Kaplan screaming "YOU DON'T KILL MY NPCS!" and the raid wipes on bugged encounter.
People have been repeatedly posting in Blizzard's suggestion forums since the Burning Crusade was released for preBC dungeons and raids to be revamped to level 70. The developers themselves responded and said they wanted to do so years ago, they just had new content to get out first. Since WotLK was released even more people have asked preBC and BC dungeons and raids to be redone for level 80s.
It seems odd that people would get upset and even quit because of a feature that Blizz has been promising the playerbase for years, especially when it does nothing but add more to do in the game. This thread is simply more proof that some people will whine about anything.
People have been repeatedly posting in Blizzard's suggestion forums since the Burning Crusade was released for preBC dungeons and raids to be revamped to level 70. The developers themselves responded and said they wanted to do so years ago, they just had new content to get out first. Since WotLK was released even more people have asked preBC and BC dungeons and raids to be redone for level 80s. It seems odd that people would get upset and even quit because of a feature that Blizz has been promising the playerbase for years, especially when it does nothing but add more to do in the game. This thread is simply more proof that some people will whine about anything.
What? When did they say that? I've always heard that they want to move on new content and leave the old one be.
People have been repeatedly posting in Blizzard's suggestion forums since the Burning Crusade was released for preBC dungeons and raids to be revamped to level 70. The developers themselves responded and said they wanted to do so years ago, they just had new content to get out first. Since WotLK was released even more people have asked preBC and BC dungeons and raids to be redone for level 80s. It seems odd that people would get upset and even quit because of a feature that Blizz has been promising the playerbase for years, especially when it does nothing but add more to do in the game. This thread is simply more proof that some people will whine about anything.
Too little, too late. They should of been doing it from the start and putting more resources into it. Instead of revamping old content, they let it crash & burn...and now years later, vamp 1 raid at a time, every few years? Please, they could of done this for dozens of instances and players would love to seen new items and they could of even changed boss abilities, and made the old seem fresh...
Jaded or not I may be, but instead of putting extra effort - they believe in the "throw a dog a bone" philosophy. Its a shame to see all the wasted potential, but instead we can hope its put into the new games *end rant*
It's all about the percentage of recycled old content as opposed to introducing new content. The latest expansion has seen the most recycled content in the game ever (as far as raids are concerned). The thing is, that content had its place n the vanilla WoW, along with assorted quests and the lore to back things up. Today this content is detached from everything, along with a lot of things in the raid level.
It seems that while the new expansion has improved the game as far as the open world is concerned, the same can't be said about the instanced content, especially on the raid level. We've moved from proper dungeon crawls, like Scholomance, to one corridor or room wonders. Efficient perhaps yes, interesting though no.
People have been repeatedly posting in Blizzard's suggestion forums since the Burning Crusade was released for preBC dungeons and raids to be revamped to level 70. The developers themselves responded and said they wanted to do so years ago, they just had new content to get out first. Since WotLK was released even more people have asked preBC and BC dungeons and raids to be redone for level 80s. It seems odd that people would get upset and even quit because of a feature that Blizz has been promising the playerbase for years, especially when it does nothing but add more to do in the game. This thread is simply more proof that some people will whine about anything.
You understand that this has absolutely no place in the lore right? Onyxia was beheaded in the past, what the hell is she doing here now, plus, even if they sort a crappy cavern of time thingy like blizzard does this is absolutely out of the loop in respect to all the lich king lore.
I know many people play this for the loot, dont read quests, and dont give a damn about what a roleplaying game should be, but stop for a second and think.... if this was an alternative reality, or a well structured story like, lets say, lord of the rings, what is the damn excuse they will come up with to present this boss again?
Originally posted by tryklon You understand that this has absolutely no place in the lore right? Onyxia was beheaded in the past, what the hell is she doing here now, plus, even if they sort a crappy cavern of time thingy like blizzard does this is absolutely out of the loop in respect to all the lich king lore.
Actually she was beheaded many times each week on every servers by many different people. All in the past... well actually she is still beheaded each week on my server right now, so umm.... yeah.
Seriously, lets wait to see how it is done before grabbing pitch forks and torches?
Give me a forums link (either here or on the WoW forums) where people were asking for Onyxia to be redone for lvl 80 and to remove the original Onyxia. I cant find one. I doubt the fanbois can either. Very few people asked for this.
What a lot of people asked for was for heroic deadmines and in some cases heroic Scarlet Monastery. And no one asked for the original instance to be removed.
So the Cult of Blizzard worshippers (hi coffee) need to stop making stuff up.
The amount of people asking for classic WoW servers would be 23452376154184581345814581245154 times that of people asking for onyxia to be redone for lvl 80's.
Actually there are tons of posts asking for the old content to be updated. No, this isn't specifically HOW they asked for it to be done, but it makes the most sense. The sad part is that people are never happy. People complain that they want old content updated, Blizzard delivers and now they have issues with it. No, why they are really upset is that does away with the classic WOW server idea. I am sorry that you guys are not happy about it, but guess what - a lot of people are and they are the ones playing.
No, it doesnt make the most sense. Making heroic deadmines, what is what people asked for, would make the most sense. No one asked for some crappy re-make of Onyxia that will be FAR FAR inferior to the original.
If asked for a classic car and you gave me a boat would that make sense? No.
Of course 100% of people are not happy. You're a fool to think you can please everyone. But overall people were happier in classic WoW and burning crusade.
And what a surprise you think its a good idea. I'm shocked. Hell, Blizzard could release tic-tac-toe as a raid instance and you would proclaim it to be the greatest thing ever created in an mmorpg.
And FYI before you say I hate everything WoW I have 300 days /played across my characters. So yes, I obviously hate the game.
You understand that this has absolutely no place in the lore right? Onyxia was beheaded in the past, what the hell is she doing here now, plus, even if they sort a crappy cavern of time thingy like blizzard does this is absolutely out of the loop in respect to all the lich king lore. I know many people play this for the loot, dont read quests, and dont give a damn about what a roleplaying game should be, but stop for a second and think.... if this was an alternative reality, or a well structured story like, lets say, lord of the rings, what is the damn excuse they will come up with to present this boss again?
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So what I'm hearing from your post is.
"I don't like Blizzard, I'm planning on playing FFXIV anyway, lets go on the WoW forms and stir up a hornets nest."
Not going to fall for it.
Besides its not another "Draenai" thing, Nei were in WARCRAFT 3 THE FROZEN THRONE. They exsisted in Warcraft lore, it was not a huge suprise to have them introduced.
If anything you should be complaining its another "Naxx" because that is EXACTLY what it is, they're rehashing old raids for newer content. Why?
I've never done Onyxia, I only played very casually pre BC, I think it would be fun to fight her now as an actual challenging boss.
Sorry, Blizzard isn't catering to the people who have subscribed since day one, they are making a game that EVERYONE can enjoy, I'm sure many of the old school players are excited to hear about this, I know a lot of people who used to raid Pre BC are in my raiding guild now, and they are psyched about this.
Facts are important things, you should use them and know them, not twist them like you have been doing.
It is called frustration because these guys played games that no longer are playable... because of WOW's success.
which games are that?
Which games are those?
I dunno I'd have to say a lot of games that didn't make it because they didn't feel polished enough to even be called "wow clones"
The Sims Online was pretty bad, but I bet it would have done better if there wasnt' a monster like WoW takin up so many Subs, same goes for Matrix online, DAOC, ShadowBane died pretty much because of a combination of WoW's influence and its inability to keep up with the times.
A lot of games have suffered because of the monster that is WoW.
Its just how many other computer companies went out of business because of how successful IBM was.
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
I think most wow programmers are now reassigned to the new blizz mmo. So the few left has to recycle old stuff to offer "new" content.
Which games are those?
I dunno I'd have to say a lot of games that didn't make it because they didn't feel polished enough to even be called "wow clones"
The Sims Online was pretty bad, but I bet it would have done better if there wasnt' a monster like WoW takin up so many Subs, same goes for Matrix online, DAOC, ShadowBane died pretty much because of a combination of WoW's influence and its inability to keep up with the times.
A lot of games have suffered because of the monster that is WoW.
Its just how many other computer companies went out of business because of how successful IBM was.
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
While I agree to some extent, most of the WoW population is actually people WoW brought into the genre people who would never have played EQ2 or any other MMO in the first place, so overall I think the benefit is for everyone that now those people want to explore other possibilites and other types of MMOs there is a much bigger market for new MMOs.
I dont necessarily think "recycling" old content is a bad idea all together, its alot better than allowing people to go there with a group of 3 people and just kill it, with 10 and 25 possibilities it means people will be able to experience the fights more or less how they were before instead of just steam rolling everything, but thats just me.
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
But that dusnt make EQ2 or COH etc unplayable
if a game failes its because the devs didnt deliver, but not because of WoW
AoC and WAR show that there still is a good market in MMOS, even when WoW is at his top those 2 games had huge box sales, if they both did what it said on the box im sure alot of people would have still enjoyed playing those 2 games
Which games are those?
I dunno I'd have to say a lot of games that didn't make it because they didn't feel polished enough to even be called "wow clones"
The Sims Online was pretty bad, but I bet it would have done better if there wasnt' a monster like WoW takin up so many Subs, same goes for Matrix online, DAOC, ShadowBane died pretty much because of a combination of WoW's influence and its inability to keep up with the times.
A lot of games have suffered because of the monster that is WoW.
Its just how many other computer companies went out of business because of how successful IBM was.
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
While I agree to some extent, most of the WoW population is actually people WoW brought into the genre people who would never have played EQ2 or any other MMO in the first place, so overall I think the benefit is for everyone that now those people want to explore other possibilites and other types of MMOs there is a much bigger market for new MMOs.
I dont necessarily think "recycling" old content is a bad idea all together, its alot better than allowing people to go there with a group of 3 people and just kill it, with 10 and 25 possibilities it means people will be able to experience the fights more or less how they were before instead of just steam rolling everything, but thats just me.
eq2 biggest nono ,was,is and will be system requirement,it would be very popular even now if it wasnt for the fact that this game always took a big computer .wich prevented lot of gamer to actually play it .
Lame change, if they really wanted to do something cool, they would have made something in Wyrmrest Temple. Also, what about Quel'serar, Rhok'delar and most important, Onyxia Scale Cloak? Are they really gonna spit in 60 xplocked raiding guilds' face and make T2 undoable?
So bloody pathetic.
Which games are those?
I dunno I'd have to say a lot of games that didn't make it because they didn't feel polished enough to even be called "wow clones"
The Sims Online was pretty bad, but I bet it would have done better if there wasnt' a monster like WoW takin up so many Subs, same goes for Matrix online, DAOC, ShadowBane died pretty much because of a combination of WoW's influence and its inability to keep up with the times.
A lot of games have suffered because of the monster that is WoW.
Its just how many other computer companies went out of business because of how successful IBM was.
Imagine how many people would be playing EQ2 if WoW didn't exsist, or City of Heroes, lots of other games could grab at the people who play WoW if it was not around.
While I agree to some extent, most of the WoW population is actually people WoW brought into the genre people who would never have played EQ2 or any other MMO in the first place, so overall I think the benefit is for everyone that now those people want to explore other possibilites and other types of MMOs there is a much bigger market for new MMOs.
I dont necessarily think "recycling" old content is a bad idea all together, its alot better than allowing people to go there with a group of 3 people and just kill it, with 10 and 25 possibilities it means people will be able to experience the fights more or less how they were before instead of just steam rolling everything, but thats just me.
eq2 biggest nono ,was,is and will be system requirement,it would be very popular even now if it wasnt for the fact that this game always took a big computer .wich prevented lot of gamer to actually play it .
Even players who had rigs strong enough to play the game left, because it wasn't that good. There is a reason soe spent the first two years revamping all the core designs of the gameplay and they didn't spend time revamping the game engine. The message was pretty clear that people didn't enjoy the game and that was what soe responded to.
People keep talking about other mmos as if they are some deep dark secrect kept hidden away in the dark corners of the internet which they are not. If these games were as good as people think, then more people would play them. Word of mouth would spread, people would continue after the free trials.
As for revamping old content, I'm fine with it as long as that is not the only thing being done. I really enjoyed the revamp of cazic thule in everquest and it allowed people to experience a zone they enjoyed once more. I don't see people whining about the revamp of lavastorm in eq2. What is so different in this situation? I'm sure there are millions of players who never saw ony when it was a level appropriate encounter. If it is done right it will enhance the game.
This is great news. Would love if they did the remaining raids and add heroic versions to the original dungeons aswell. Ony was my favourite fight when WoW came out (our guild got up to 4H in Naxx). Can't wait to give it another proper go, have soloed her a few times.
It completely staggers me how people still find it strange that Blizzard completely screws lore to achieve their purposes... lol
But yet, probably 90% of the player base dont even know who is Onyxia and what was her agenda and the Black Dragonflight., im not surprised about this being a well received patch
Blizzard is bringing back a classic raid as a special event for the 5 year anniversary and all the WoW haters cram in here with torches and pitchforks proclaiming "lazy Blizzard".
I saw this coming and if you didnt then you havent been paying attention.
Yes, and this will basically disable BWL and AQ chain for 60 raiding guilds, just when Blizzard implemented the option to lock your experience. These aren't exactly light consequences.
LOL ONY !
Seriously they might as well bring back BWL since it's one of there best instances and throw in a few 310% mounts there as well. All anyone talks about these days when regarding to raiding is old instances and when they can kill the Lich King.
This game has always been casual. It only took 3 years for Blizzard and the Hardcores to understand this. Why we have raids above 10 man is beyond me. Try to get 24 people to show up every raid night 3-4 nights a weeks is near impossible and back in old wow it wasn't any different.
Think back when stratholm was 10 man. We are seeing the same deal again in Wrath. You'll find more people running 5 and 10 mans then you will see running 25 man content. Sure we are now seeing 25 man pug content but, honsty don't tell me you didn't see this coming.
Raiding is dead in terms how we knew it and now the new chapter of the casual player is taking over.
Blizzard is going to do whatever they "Feel" would keep players around and keep playing. Raiding content made casual and puggable might just do that.
As for flying around on a mini Ony.... Well that's freaking amazing considering most of the time you would think when running a 25 man Uladar for the first time you'd hear Jeff Kaplan screaming "YOU DON'T KILL MY NPCS!" and the raid wipes on bugged encounter.
People have been repeatedly posting in Blizzard's suggestion forums since the Burning Crusade was released for preBC dungeons and raids to be revamped to level 70. The developers themselves responded and said they wanted to do so years ago, they just had new content to get out first. Since WotLK was released even more people have asked preBC and BC dungeons and raids to be redone for level 80s.
It seems odd that people would get upset and even quit because of a feature that Blizz has been promising the playerbase for years, especially when it does nothing but add more to do in the game. This thread is simply more proof that some people will whine about anything.
What? When did they say that? I've always heard that they want to move on new content and leave the old one be.
Too little, too late. They should of been doing it from the start and putting more resources into it. Instead of revamping old content, they let it crash & burn...and now years later, vamp 1 raid at a time, every few years? Please, they could of done this for dozens of instances and players would love to seen new items and they could of even changed boss abilities, and made the old seem fresh...
Jaded or not I may be, but instead of putting extra effort - they believe in the "throw a dog a bone" philosophy. Its a shame to see all the wasted potential, but instead we can hope its put into the new games *end rant*
It's all about the percentage of recycled old content as opposed to introducing new content. The latest expansion has seen the most recycled content in the game ever (as far as raids are concerned). The thing is, that content had its place n the vanilla WoW, along with assorted quests and the lore to back things up. Today this content is detached from everything, along with a lot of things in the raid level.
It seems that while the new expansion has improved the game as far as the open world is concerned, the same can't be said about the instanced content, especially on the raid level. We've moved from proper dungeon crawls, like Scholomance, to one corridor or room wonders. Efficient perhaps yes, interesting though no.
You understand that this has absolutely no place in the lore right? Onyxia was beheaded in the past, what the hell is she doing here now, plus, even if they sort a crappy cavern of time thingy like blizzard does this is absolutely out of the loop in respect to all the lich king lore.
I know many people play this for the loot, dont read quests, and dont give a damn about what a roleplaying game should be, but stop for a second and think.... if this was an alternative reality, or a well structured story like, lets say, lord of the rings, what is the damn excuse they will come up with to present this boss again?
Actually she was beheaded many times each week on every servers by many different people. All in the past... well actually she is still beheaded each week on my server right now, so umm.... yeah.
Seriously, lets wait to see how it is done before grabbing pitch forks and torches?
DRAENEI ASTRONAUT SHAMAN
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Give me a forums link (either here or on the WoW forums) where people were asking for Onyxia to be redone for lvl 80 and to remove the original Onyxia. I cant find one. I doubt the fanbois can either. Very few people asked for this.
What a lot of people asked for was for heroic deadmines and in some cases heroic Scarlet Monastery. And no one asked for the original instance to be removed.
So the Cult of Blizzard worshippers (hi coffee) need to stop making stuff up.
The amount of people asking for classic WoW servers would be 23452376154184581345814581245154 times that of people asking for onyxia to be redone for lvl 80's.
No, it doesnt make the most sense. Making heroic deadmines, what is what people asked for, would make the most sense. No one asked for some crappy re-make of Onyxia that will be FAR FAR inferior to the original.
If asked for a classic car and you gave me a boat would that make sense? No.
Of course 100% of people are not happy. You're a fool to think you can please everyone. But overall people were happier in classic WoW and burning crusade.
And what a surprise you think its a good idea. I'm shocked. Hell, Blizzard could release tic-tac-toe as a raid instance and you would proclaim it to be the greatest thing ever created in an mmorpg.
And FYI before you say I hate everything WoW I have 300 days /played across my characters. So yes, I obviously hate the game.
Beheading was just a setback!