lol FFXIV will be exclusive to the PS3. Unless the article I read the part where it said "The “FFXIV online” title is planned to launch in 2010, exclusively for PS3" wrong. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3174544
It's a console exclusive for the PS3, but will in fact be coming to the PC, as well.
When it was announced the made a slight mistake saying "Exclusive" because it's not.
And here a 1up article that followed yours shortly there after that.
These companies are so completley obssessed with Blizzard and wow, that even their conference calls and meetings all they tlak about is wow. I rember the same thing happening with WAR and aoc, the idiots couldnt stop talking about how they were going to match and hurt wow. Hey ncsoft u can stay second np, second place is for the fail companies.
HI to the Aion community, I have been waiting for this game to be releases here in europe for Months, only to find out that it is now going to be a pay-to-play game. I am really disappointed in you guys, not only is it pay-to-play but it is still a full priced game to start off. Some of us aren't financially in a position to afford this no matter how much we would like to play. I have played RFOnline for two years, first on the retail server, then on the RFEquilibrium server when retail closed. I was happy to give up my high lvl, well equipt, and well known character to play this game and start a fresh as a noobie but since finding out it's now going to be pay-to-play I have had to reconsider. And to be honest, I don't think I will be the only one! MAKE IT FREE-TO-PLAY AND ADD A CASHSHOP..... THAT WAY THOSE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEND REAL MONEY TO IMPROVE THEIR CHARACTERS CAN DO SO..... AND THE REST OF US CAN JUST WORK HARD..... Good luck in Game, I will maybe see you IF they make it FREE-TO-PLAY
At this point we should be grateful that some developers don't charge a subscription fee on top of an RMT item mall (see Champions Online). Besides, the AAA quality of Aion warrants the subscription fee, unlike the low quality F2P games out there.
My honest opinion about this is WoW will be second to Aion. It will take some time, but the game is just as addictive if not more so and I honestly think NCSoft is underestimating their product and the subscriber base out there. Also, WoW is prone to attract hardcore gamers who focus on leveling. Hardcore gamers are a minority, so Aion has a chance to knock out WoW since there has never been anything like this, or this gorgeous, before in an MMORPG. There are alot of casual gamers it will attract, and it may even take away some of the hardcore Warcrack Addicts. Aion has alot of potential in it, but it has to be presented right. I believe NCSoft has finally got the formula right. This game is great for everyone from the first time MMOer to the hardcore veteran. It simply has something to offer everyone(even those flight sim junkies who love to fly). The general appeal and uniqueness will be what makes this game a strong competitor with WoW. When World of Warcraft initially released, it took a familiar formula and perfected it, and added a couple unique features. Unfortunately, they left out a real plot line which makes it far too easy for the game to bore the casual gamer. Since then, MMOs following that formula have become a dime a baker's dozen, leading many gamers to desire something original. The time is right for this new style of Fantasy MMO and the release of Aion could not be more perfectly timed.
Too bold a statement. Aion is a niche game in this region of the world, where PvE reigns supreme. The initial sustained subscriptions should be better than those of AoC or WAR, but there are still many ifs hanging above Aion. The very first is the ability of NCsoft to battle the botters/hackers and gold sellers.
These companies are so completley obssessed with Blizzard and wow, that even their conference calls and meetings all they tlak about is wow. I rember the same thing happening with WAR and aoc, the idiots couldnt stop talking about how they were going to match and hurt wow. Hey ncsoft u can stay second np, second place is for the fail companies.
Has nothing to do with being obsessed but being realistic.
And i never seen AoC or War for that matter talk about how they would rake in WOW numbers.
Even NCSoft is not claiming they get the second spot, he just hope they could.
HI to the Aion community, I have been waiting for this game to be releases here in europe for Months, only to find out that it is now going to be a pay-to-play game. I am really disappointed in you guys, not only is it pay-to-play but it is still a full priced game to start off. Some of us aren't financially in a position to afford this no matter how much we would like to play. I have played RFOnline for two years, first on the retail server, then on the RFEquilibrium server when retail closed. I was happy to give up my high lvl, well equipt, and well known character to play this game and start a fresh as a noobie but since finding out it's now going to be pay-to-play I have had to reconsider. And to be honest, I don't think I will be the only one! MAKE IT FREE-TO-PLAY AND ADD A CASHSHOP..... THAT WAY THOSE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEND REAL MONEY TO IMPROVE THEIR CHARACTERS CAN DO SO..... AND THE REST OF US CAN JUST WORK HARD..... Good luck in Game, I will maybe see you IF they make it FREE-TO-PLAY
These companies are so completley obssessed with Blizzard and wow, that even their conference calls and meetings all they tlak about is wow. I rember the same thing happening with WAR and aoc, the idiots couldnt stop talking about how they were going to match and hurt wow. Hey ncsoft u can stay second np, second place is for the fail companies.
Has nothing to do with being obsessed but being realistic.
And i never seen AoC or War for that matter talk about how they would rake in WOW numbers.
Even NCSoft is not claiming they get the second spot, he just hope they could.
Another one where the get sudden memeroy loss at the comments and interviews of Paul barnett and Mark jacobs talking about wow numbers etc, and failcom talking about wow numbers, and then talking about aoc hitting wow in the knees etc. Im starting to think people on this site have memeroy lapses and then remeber what they want.
LOL this is a joke ... right? First as many have stated #2 ain't that hard an accomplishment compared to WoW numbers in our current game world. Second I can name several uncoming MMO's that will be just as good or better and prolly as succesful ( not including the asian market):
1) Fallen Earth
2) Champions Online
3) Global Agenda
4) Earthrise
5) Universe Online
6) Stargate Worlds
7) Huxley
8) The Agency
9) Star Trek Online
10) DC Universe
and the only true contender (imo) for possibly getting near WoW (but I doubt it)
11) Star Wars: The Old Republic
Aion is argueably just a newer WoW (Fantasy MMO {Been there, done that}) most on the above list are at least a different setting.
I do not feel that it is all that bold a statement at all. I have played just about every major MMO, including WoW, out there and from what I can tell Aion has all the essential elements required to be the best fantasy MMO out there. I do not understand this whole concern about hacks. I mean, if they were to break the servers it is one thing, but if there are programs running characters just like the power gamers would play, all you need is a little patience to do what you need to do. I don't run into any major problems even with bots on the server. I think it is just a matter of perspective and a little patience.
These companies are so completley obssessed with Blizzard and wow, that even their conference calls and meetings all they tlak about is wow. I rember the same thing happening with WAR and aoc, the idiots couldnt stop talking about how they were going to match and hurt wow. Hey ncsoft u can stay second np, second place is for the fail companies.
Has nothing to do with being obsessed but being realistic.
And i never seen AoC or War for that matter talk about how they would rake in WOW numbers.
Even NCSoft is not claiming they get the second spot, he just hope they could.
Mark JAcobs talked MORE about WOW than War. In fact he used statements like "gloves are off now "(against Wow), "we will see who will win the final fight" (against Wow when the first signs of War player losses became clear), "a good second behind WOW is what I would call a success" (at launch).
And the ex Director of FunCom even compared AoC and Wow with the food business ("filet mignon" his product was). Lowering himself to the level of Wow hating forum trolls.
Apparently they never learn. These guys ... were fired btw.
Could be but i never read it
Every copy of Aion sold is pure publcity for the next expansion of WOW (announced at BlizzCon).
History repeats itself isn't it.
Same old bullshit you post, if your formula was true wow would have been no more
Perhaps FFXIV is freeing itself (at last) from the leveling, but that's another story, this one is repeat all over.
In order for games to reach a good portion of subscriptions they first and foremost need to offer a game with a stable and bug free (as much as possible) engine. Taking that into consideration and looking at the MMO history, where the only games that have positive subscriptions are the ones that were polished during launch, lets look at the list of your games:
Fallen Earth: From what I read in these forums, nowhere near as polished as it should be. They will be lucky if they eventually manage to emulate CCP and their EVE success. However, that means that for a good deal of time their subscription count will be low.
Champions Online: Box price + subscriptions + RMT item mall will keep a good deal of informed people away. From my understanding, they are aiming to repeat Turbine's success with LOTRO (with the addition of RMT). That means that the content provided with the game initially will be low. Remains to be seen if they will be as fast as Turbine in producing content for their game.
Global Agenda: Well, it doesn't really look like it is an MMO. Or an RPG. More like a more populated arena with sustainable stats. It may end up being a good game, but as for an MMO ... not.
Earthrise: See Fallen Earth.
Universe Online: Whatever that is, it doesn't seem that it will launch any time soon. Plus it'll have to compete with EVE, not a good prospect.
Stargate Online: It will never launch. The developing company is bankrupt. The development team is negligible and unpaid for months.
Huxley: Not an MMO, see Global Agenda.
The Agency: Not much info beyond the RMT shop. No launch for at least a year. Might not be an MMO either, we know too little at this point.
Star Trek Online: Again, no launch for at least a year. Subscription plan same as Champion Online (aka the Ferengi won).
DC Universe: No launch for at least a year. RMT item shop confirmed.
Star Wars Galaxy: Won't launch for at least a year. Might not be an MMO, the whole structure of the game reminds too much of DDO (Dungeons & Dragons Online), aka, good dungeon runs but heavily instanced.
Aion is a mix between Lineage 2 (PvP), Everquest 2 (levelling & mechanics) and WoW (early PvE). It's niche approach to PvP will alienate some people who would prefer a pure PvP or PvE experience. Some people don't like the art direction. Lastly, there is always the chance that NCsoft will drop the ball and won't manage to contain the botter/hackers and gold sellers.
Regardless, no game in your list seem able to compete with Aion, at least in the coming year. Mid to late 2010 will be a different ballgame with the newer MMOs coming out.
To riceae02: In order for games to reach a good portion of subscriptions they first and foremost need to offer a game with a stable and bug free (as much as possible) engine. Taking that into consideration and looking at the MMO history, where the only games that have positive subscriptions are the ones that were polished during launch, lets look at the list of your games:
Fallen Earth: From what I read in these forums, nowhere near as polished as it should be. They will be lucky if they eventually manage to emulate CCP and their EVE success. However, that means that for a good deal of time their subscription count will be low. - Small developer. The game itself is surprisingly good considering that - as you see from videos they lack polish in terms of art and animation and general polish. It is very hard for these small developers when they get compared against titles like WoW and EVE, which have been around for 5+ years. Champions Online: Box price + subscriptions + RMT item mall will keep a good deal of informed people away. From my understanding, they are aiming to repeat Turbine's success with LOTRO (with the addition of RMT). That means that the content provided with the game initially will be low. Remains to be seen if they will be as fast as Turbine in producing content for their game. - Can't say, not interested in this superhero genre. Global Agenda: Well, it doesn't really look like it is an MMO. Or an RPG. More like a more populated arena with sustainable stats. It may end up being a good game, but as for an MMO ... not. - well to be honest, same was said about Diablo series, that it was not a RPG, but an action hack'n'slach game ala Gauntlet, but nowadays almost everyone classifies it as a RPG. I personally do not see that MMORPGs have to come with a certain mold and thus welcome games like Global Agenda that will try to break it. Earthrise: See Fallen Earth. - Yep, see Fallen Earth. Albeit there is a lot less information available about this game. Universe Online: Whatever that is, it doesn't seem that it will launch any time soon. Plus it'll have to compete with EVE, not a good prospect. - First I heard about this. Stargate Online: It will never launch. The developing company is bankrupt. The development team is negligible and unpaid for months. - Well, the game can be sold to other developer along with IP, if it is in a good shape. Considering that the new series is about to launch, it might a good time to sell it. Huxley: Not an MMO, see Global Agenda. - Again, they are MMORPGs just as Diablo was a RPG. They do fall under the MMO umbrella, but feel free to invent sub-categories for them. The Agency: Not much info beyond the RMT shop. No launch for at least a year. Might not be an MMO either, we know too little at this point. - will also be available on Playstation, again it is pretty narrow-minded to argue this MMO aspect at every turn. Star Trek Online: Again, no launch for at least a year. Subscription plan same as Champion Online (aka the Ferengi won). -This might DC Universe: No launch for at least a year. RMT item shop confirmed. Star Wars Galaxy: Won't launch for at least a year. Might not be an MMO, the whole structure of the game reminds too much of DDO (Dungeons & Dragons Online), aka, good dungeon runs but heavily instanced. - Star Wars Galaxy? Well if you mean SW:TOR, yes it is also a game that is looking to bring something new to the table. I am sure there will be lots of haters and lovers. But considering how stagnant the genre has become, I am very happy to see a major developer going to a different direction.
Aion is a mix between Lineage 2 (PvP), Everquest 2 (levelling & mechanics) and WoW (early PvE). It's niche approach to PvP will alienate some people who would prefer a pure PvP or PvE experience. Some people don't like the art direction. Lastly, there is always the chance that NCsoft will drop the ball and won't manage to contain the botter/hackers and gold sellers. That is the stereotype answer. One does not even have to play the game to come up with it just read few negative posts. The point is valid, the game will not be for everyone. Someone always prefers the mother over the daughter. I am pretty sure that RvR and PvPvE will appeal to fairly large market segment. Those PvPers who like instanced PvP like arenas and BGs already have other games and same with pure PvEers. They will most likely go back to those after the freshness period comes to an end with Aion. But frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
I don't think it'll be second. Aion is just a prettier wow ripoff with a korean grind style of gameplay, it'll never be anything big really. After the early access me and a ton of people I know have canceled pre-orders after seeing the game is just a wow wanna be, and to add insult to injury it has a korean grind to it. Nothing were intersted in playing. We also hate wow, and anything that tries to copy it. Fantasy mmorpgs are kinda bleh now a days people want something new, the old swords and magic has been done to death.
Its clear that you have not played Aion yet as you have no clue what you are talking about. It is not a WoW rip-off far from it. Oh and who the hell is We?
How do you get that it is a WoW rip-off? Also, you and the people you know are in the minority because every beta has tons of players on it. I know, I am one of them. As far as the gameplay goes, totally different between the two. I have played both. I also think that the only reason WoW survives is what I call the Lemming syndrome. Once the first one jumps into the sea, everyone else follows not having a mind of their own.
Last guy that challenged WoW openly doesn't have a job right now.
He didn't challenge WoW at all. If anything, he challenged every other game. Committing to a #2 spot to a game is not challenging it - it's admitting defeat from the start. It's different from Mark Jacobs.
Anyway, I believe Aion will do well. I think it'll stay around the 500k - 1million range for a while. It's genuinely fun, has good character customization, amazing world/graphics, good combat system, nice looking gear, lots of content, apparently some good crafting, though I've yet to really delve into it. Then there's the PvPvE which I can't wait to try out.
People may think they don't know the western gamers over in Asia, but they've got pretty much everything that I personally need for the most part to be sticking with the game for quite a while.
All I know is I'm really excited to play at launch, and while the beta weekends satisfy me just enough to get me through, this is the last one this weekend, and it's gonna suck waiting over a month without playing. :P
Then again, I guess OB is coming at some point. I might just wait for launch by then though anyway.
Well, when I'm looking for MMOs, I'm looking for persistent worlds, or at least an illusion of persistent worlds. So far the gender with quite a few titles killed the RPG part of MMORPG. Now they seem to forgo the first M of MMO, the massive part.
I don't argue that they can be great games in their own right. But if we kind of need to loosely define the borders of this gender so that comparisons are meaningful. For example, don't you think it sounds irrelevant when you're talking about sports games and somebody mentions flight simulators?
Why not put guitar hero in the list of MMOs, if we're willing to stretch the boundaries as thin as they can get.
Nobody should wish to see a game fail and I do not know why some people are on the WoW bashing wagon these days. Aion will not hurt WoW all that much. Just as WAR did not hurt WoW, as neither did AoC or LoTR's. WoW is a great game and I seriousoly doubt any game in the near future will hurt it - except maybe Blizzards future MMORPG. Face it, the games being put out today are not all that great.
It was foolish for the guy from NCSoft to hype Aion prematurely.
Why not put guitar hero in the list of MMOs, if we're willing to stretch the boundaries as thin as they can get.
I am sure there are many opinions, but I think you can play Guitar Hero also as a single player game. It does not require you to be in a game world with a large number of people you do not know.
I think any game where players have to participate in an in-game area and to interact with a large number of other players is a MMO.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Well, for me a game with multiple battlegrounds is not an MMO. Diablo with 8 or 16 people is certainly not one. It doesn't need to just be multiplayer, it needs to be massive as well.
How do you get that it is a WoW rip-off? Also, you and the people you know are in the minority because every beta has tons of players on it. I know, I am one of them. As far as the gameplay goes, totally different between the two. I have played both. I also think that the only reason WoW survives is what I call the Lemming syndrome. Once the first one jumps into the sea, everyone else follows not having a mind of their own.
So a game people like to play are lemmings?? So that must mean then if any gam that is played by anyone they are all lemmings then. That means if aion is a sucess those players are lemmings, anyone that plays eve is a lemming, that plays lotro is a lemming, gw is a lemmins because like u said 1 person jumps in then alot follow. The difference being the so called lemmings that went to play wow actually found a game that was fun, while the lemminsg that keep jumping from eq2, to vanguard, to lotro, to eve cant find anything they like so they bash wow. YES UR SYNDROME is what i like to call; Clown that chats crap syndrome.
Most of you don't seem to know that Aion already has 3.5 million active subscriptions in Asia. I (notice the "I", which means it's just my opinion) expect it to have around a million more in US and Europe, which comes mighty close to WoW and his 5 million. Of course, WoW is expected to boost it's sub numbers once again, as it's coming back to China soonish according to recent reports.
Anyways, I expect it to hold (yes, hold and not gain, cause it already has it) the 2nd position for a long time.
WoW can only be considered great if you enjoy leveling with no real goals or storyline. The reason I would like to see WoW fail is because of it's own merits, or lack thereof, as the case truly is. It has the same exact play mechanics as Everquest, minus a strong storyline and adding in a more detailed faction system. I would rather play Everquest/Everquest II any day because to me it is just more fun to play. The way I see it WoW could have easily fizzled except it spread like wildfire with word of mouth initially. Aion seems to be getting the same buzz, has a strong but simple faction system, has a strong storyline, has PvP very openly, and has PvE openly. It is possible to, after reaching a certain point in the game, concentrate on PvP almost exclusively. Plus, in flight combat, which is very smoothly done, is a nice twist to PvP and PvE. Plus the graphics are stunning. I do not think people will worry too much about asian style graphics when the graphics are on par with the latest Final Fantasy games. Simply amazing. The real gem in Aion where most MMOs, including WoW and EQ/EQ2, fail is in the game play. For the most part, in Aion it runs very smoothly, where in WoW and many other MMOs, the user interface does not always run smoothly. NCSoft usually does very well when it comes to playability factors such as the user interface system(which includes controls). I am not going to say Aion will overtake WoW, but I do think that it will and that it has an excellent shot at doing so. Regardless of whether it does or not, it will raise the bar for what a MMO can and should be. Even in the beta tests, you can clearly see this is a new generation of MMOs it is initiating.
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It's a console exclusive for the PS3, but will in fact be coming to the PC, as well.
When it was announced the made a slight mistake saying "Exclusive" because it's not.
And here a 1up article that followed yours shortly there after that.
www.1up.com/do/newsStory
These companies are so completley obssessed with Blizzard and wow, that even their conference calls and meetings all they tlak about is wow. I rember the same thing happening with WAR and aoc, the idiots couldnt stop talking about how they were going to match and hurt wow. Hey ncsoft u can stay second np, second place is for the fail companies.
At this point we should be grateful that some developers don't charge a subscription fee on top of an RMT item mall (see Champions Online). Besides, the AAA quality of Aion warrants the subscription fee, unlike the low quality F2P games out there.
Too bold a statement. Aion is a niche game in this region of the world, where PvE reigns supreme. The initial sustained subscriptions should be better than those of AoC or WAR, but there are still many ifs hanging above Aion. The very first is the ability of NCsoft to battle the botters/hackers and gold sellers.
Has nothing to do with being obsessed but being realistic.
And i never seen AoC or War for that matter talk about how they would rake in WOW numbers.
Even NCSoft is not claiming they get the second spot, he just hope they could.
Trollan, trollan, trollan.
Keep those barrels rollan.
I'm just cool like that.
Has nothing to do with being obsessed but being realistic.
And i never seen AoC or War for that matter talk about how they would rake in WOW numbers.
Even NCSoft is not claiming they get the second spot, he just hope they could.
Another one where the get sudden memeroy loss at the comments and interviews of Paul barnett and Mark jacobs talking about wow numbers etc, and failcom talking about wow numbers, and then talking about aoc hitting wow in the knees etc. Im starting to think people on this site have memeroy lapses and then remeber what they want.
LOL this is a joke ... right? First as many have stated #2 ain't that hard an accomplishment compared to WoW numbers in our current game world. Second I can name several uncoming MMO's that will be just as good or better and prolly as succesful ( not including the asian market):
1) Fallen Earth
2) Champions Online
3) Global Agenda
4) Earthrise
5) Universe Online
6) Stargate Worlds
7) Huxley
8) The Agency
9) Star Trek Online
10) DC Universe
and the only true contender (imo) for possibly getting near WoW (but I doubt it)
11) Star Wars: The Old Republic
Aion is argueably just a newer WoW (Fantasy MMO {Been there, done that}) most on the above list are at least a different setting.
I do not feel that it is all that bold a statement at all. I have played just about every major MMO, including WoW, out there and from what I can tell Aion has all the essential elements required to be the best fantasy MMO out there. I do not understand this whole concern about hacks. I mean, if they were to break the servers it is one thing, but if there are programs running characters just like the power gamers would play, all you need is a little patience to do what you need to do. I don't run into any major problems even with bots on the server. I think it is just a matter of perspective and a little patience.
Has nothing to do with being obsessed but being realistic.
And i never seen AoC or War for that matter talk about how they would rake in WOW numbers.
Even NCSoft is not claiming they get the second spot, he just hope they could.
Mark JAcobs talked MORE about WOW than War. In fact he used statements like "gloves are off now "(against Wow), "we will see who will win the final fight" (against Wow when the first signs of War player losses became clear), "a good second behind WOW is what I would call a success" (at launch).
And the ex Director of FunCom even compared AoC and Wow with the food business ("filet mignon" his product was). Lowering himself to the level of Wow hating forum trolls.
Apparently they never learn. These guys ... were fired btw.
Could be but i never read it
Every copy of Aion sold is pure publcity for the next expansion of WOW (announced at BlizzCon).
History repeats itself isn't it.
Same old bullshit you post, if your formula was true wow would have been no more
Perhaps FFXIV is freeing itself (at last) from the leveling, but that's another story, this one is repeat all over.
I hope so
So you got your figures and statistics yo know this from???
I think people might be a bit surprised how well Aion will do.
To riceae02:
In order for games to reach a good portion of subscriptions they first and foremost need to offer a game with a stable and bug free (as much as possible) engine. Taking that into consideration and looking at the MMO history, where the only games that have positive subscriptions are the ones that were polished during launch, lets look at the list of your games:
Aion is a mix between Lineage 2 (PvP), Everquest 2 (levelling & mechanics) and WoW (early PvE). It's niche approach to PvP will alienate some people who would prefer a pure PvP or PvE experience. Some people don't like the art direction. Lastly, there is always the chance that NCsoft will drop the ball and won't manage to contain the botter/hackers and gold sellers.
Regardless, no game in your list seem able to compete with Aion, at least in the coming year. Mid to late 2010 will be a different ballgame with the newer MMOs coming out.
This guy did not challenge WoW so whats your point here?
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Its clear that you have not played Aion yet as you have no clue what you are talking about. It is not a WoW rip-off far from it. Oh and who the hell is We?
How do you get that it is a WoW rip-off? Also, you and the people you know are in the minority because every beta has tons of players on it. I know, I am one of them. As far as the gameplay goes, totally different between the two. I have played both. I also think that the only reason WoW survives is what I call the Lemming syndrome. Once the first one jumps into the sea, everyone else follows not having a mind of their own.
He didn't challenge WoW at all. If anything, he challenged every other game. Committing to a #2 spot to a game is not challenging it - it's admitting defeat from the start. It's different from Mark Jacobs.
Anyway, I believe Aion will do well. I think it'll stay around the 500k - 1million range for a while. It's genuinely fun, has good character customization, amazing world/graphics, good combat system, nice looking gear, lots of content, apparently some good crafting, though I've yet to really delve into it. Then there's the PvPvE which I can't wait to try out.
People may think they don't know the western gamers over in Asia, but they've got pretty much everything that I personally need for the most part to be sticking with the game for quite a while.
All I know is I'm really excited to play at launch, and while the beta weekends satisfy me just enough to get me through, this is the last one this weekend, and it's gonna suck waiting over a month without playing. :P
Then again, I guess OB is coming at some point. I might just wait for launch by then though anyway.
Well, when I'm looking for MMOs, I'm looking for persistent worlds, or at least an illusion of persistent worlds. So far the gender with quite a few titles killed the RPG part of MMORPG. Now they seem to forgo the first M of MMO, the massive part.
I don't argue that they can be great games in their own right. But if we kind of need to loosely define the borders of this gender so that comparisons are meaningful. For example, don't you think it sounds irrelevant when you're talking about sports games and somebody mentions flight simulators?
Why not put guitar hero in the list of MMOs, if we're willing to stretch the boundaries as thin as they can get.
Nobody should wish to see a game fail and I do not know why some people are on the WoW bashing wagon these days. Aion will not hurt WoW all that much. Just as WAR did not hurt WoW, as neither did AoC or LoTR's. WoW is a great game and I seriousoly doubt any game in the near future will hurt it - except maybe Blizzards future MMORPG. Face it, the games being put out today are not all that great.
It was foolish for the guy from NCSoft to hype Aion prematurely.
This matters a lot for people that actually follow mmos.
I am sure there are many opinions, but I think you can play Guitar Hero also as a single player game. It does not require you to be in a game world with a large number of people you do not know.
I think any game where players have to participate in an in-game area and to interact with a large number of other players is a MMO.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Well, for me a game with multiple battlegrounds is not an MMO. Diablo with 8 or 16 people is certainly not one. It doesn't need to just be multiplayer, it needs to be massive as well.
So a game people like to play are lemmings?? So that must mean then if any gam that is played by anyone they are all lemmings then. That means if aion is a sucess those players are lemmings, anyone that plays eve is a lemming, that plays lotro is a lemming, gw is a lemmins because like u said 1 person jumps in then alot follow. The difference being the so called lemmings that went to play wow actually found a game that was fun, while the lemminsg that keep jumping from eq2, to vanguard, to lotro, to eve cant find anything they like so they bash wow. YES UR SYNDROME is what i like to call; Clown that chats crap syndrome.
Most of you don't seem to know that Aion already has 3.5 million active subscriptions in Asia. I (notice the "I", which means it's just my opinion) expect it to have around a million more in US and Europe, which comes mighty close to WoW and his 5 million. Of course, WoW is expected to boost it's sub numbers once again, as it's coming back to China soonish according to recent reports.
Anyways, I expect it to hold (yes, hold and not gain, cause it already has it) the 2nd position for a long time.
WoW can only be considered great if you enjoy leveling with no real goals or storyline. The reason I would like to see WoW fail is because of it's own merits, or lack thereof, as the case truly is. It has the same exact play mechanics as Everquest, minus a strong storyline and adding in a more detailed faction system. I would rather play Everquest/Everquest II any day because to me it is just more fun to play. The way I see it WoW could have easily fizzled except it spread like wildfire with word of mouth initially. Aion seems to be getting the same buzz, has a strong but simple faction system, has a strong storyline, has PvP very openly, and has PvE openly. It is possible to, after reaching a certain point in the game, concentrate on PvP almost exclusively. Plus, in flight combat, which is very smoothly done, is a nice twist to PvP and PvE. Plus the graphics are stunning. I do not think people will worry too much about asian style graphics when the graphics are on par with the latest Final Fantasy games. Simply amazing. The real gem in Aion where most MMOs, including WoW and EQ/EQ2, fail is in the game play. For the most part, in Aion it runs very smoothly, where in WoW and many other MMOs, the user interface does not always run smoothly. NCSoft usually does very well when it comes to playability factors such as the user interface system(which includes controls). I am not going to say Aion will overtake WoW, but I do think that it will and that it has an excellent shot at doing so. Regardless of whether it does or not, it will raise the bar for what a MMO can and should be. Even in the beta tests, you can clearly see this is a new generation of MMOs it is initiating.