I think that has more to do with strictly pvp players who desperately want a more hardcore pvp game to move to. After following the game since it was announced, if one actually just took the info given, it was pretty clear that it was a somewhat balanced game between pvp and pve. One must contend with the other during certain aspects of the game but for the most part one can concentrate on one or the other. I have read that you will be getting some xp for kills in the upcoming 1.5 patch (though it might be implemented in the 1.2 patch and by default will be included in 1.5 release) but you really can't level off of that so that is where the pve game comes in. Pve players will always have to contend with rifts. Sure they can avoid them in certain areas and the slayer system puts a sort f soft time limit for players who went through the rift but they aren't immune to pvp. Just forewarned. but this info is out there for anyone who wants to take time to read it. What I have seen is players jumping to conclusions "just because".
Being a hardcore pvper doesn't mean you should act like a foaming at the mouth asshat damning everyone that likes pve in mmos. While I'm sure if i checked the net I would get more info but you have to realize it's not like Aion is a big game popularity wise. I just recently came to these forums. The majority of mmo gamers don't even check forums, we play our game and log out and that's it.
I came to this forum and was instantly shocked by the asshatery. I would like to thank you for the information you have given.
I will be giving Aion a try but you have to understand if people keep this "aion is hardcore" shit up they will be damning the game.People want accessible mmos not games that force everything on them. Maybe if someone can give a beta review from a casual pvers prospective of Aion that would be more helpful. As of right now fans of the game are hurting it more than anything.
I stil don't see how anything is "forced" on you. By simply signing up to play Aion, you are accepting that you will have to compete with others and that there will always be a risk that you will be killed by other players at any time.
Well there is some forced PvP, the zones with the rifts do force it sometimes, basically he just wants to PvE and not have to worry about PvP.
No not really I want to level my characters, do quests, run dungeons and have the option to get into pvp when I feel like it. Is something like that available in Aion?
I basically want to do whatever i feel like. If that's solo pvp, pve or group dungeons and raids or instanced pvp it doesnt matter as long as I have a choice to do one of those and if I choose to keep away from a particular feature I wont actually have that feature forced on me because I shoose to do something else. (like being ganked when I want to raid and shit like that).
No, you can't do that in Aion. First, at any time, you can be killed by another player because they can come through rifts and kill you. The only way to avoid this is to stay in your city. THe only way to avoid this is to not level out of the newbie zones, where enemy faction players can't enter.
Even in raids instances, it is PvPvE, which means both sides can enter the same instance. So if you have a party in an instance, I can take my party and enter the same instance and kill your party. That's why it's PvPvE
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
I think that has more to do with strictly pvp players who desperately want a more hardcore pvp game to move to. After following the game since it was announced, if one actually just took the info given, it was pretty clear that it was a somewhat balanced game between pvp and pve. One must contend with the other during certain aspects of the game but for the most part one can concentrate on one or the other. I have read that you will be getting some xp for kills in the upcoming 1.5 patch (though it might be implemented in the 1.2 patch and by default will be included in 1.5 release) but you really can't level off of that so that is where the pve game comes in. Pve players will always have to contend with rifts. Sure they can avoid them in certain areas and the slayer system puts a sort f soft time limit for players who went through the rift but they aren't immune to pvp. Just forewarned. but this info is out there for anyone who wants to take time to read it. What I have seen is players jumping to conclusions "just because".
Being a hardcore pvper doesn't mean you should act like a foaming at the mouth asshat damning everyone that likes pve in mmos. While I'm sure if i checked the net I would get more info but you have to realize it's not like Aion is a big game popularity wise. I just recently came to these forums. The majority of mmo gamers don't even check forums, we play our game and log out and that's it.
I came to this forum and was instantly shocked by the asshatery. I would like to thank you for the information you have given.
I will be giving Aion a try but you have to understand if people keep this "aion is hardcore" shit up they will be damning the game.People want accessible mmos not games that force everything on them. Maybe if someone can give a beta review from a casual pvers prospective of Aion that would be more helpful. As of right now fans of the game are hurting it more than anything.
I stil don't see how anything is "forced" on you. By simply signing up to play Aion, you are accepting that you will have to compete with others and that there will always be a risk that you will be killed by other players at any time.
Well there is some forced PvP, the zones with the rifts do force it sometimes, basically he just wants to PvE and not have to worry about PvP.
No not really I want to level my characters, do quests, run dungeons and have the option to get into pvp when I feel like it. Is something like that available in Aion?
I basically want to do whatever i feel like. If that's solo pvp, pve or group dungeons and raids or instanced pvp it doesnt matter as long as I have a choice to do one of those and if I choose to keep away from a particular feature I wont actually have that feature forced on me because I shoose to do something else. (like being ganked when I want to raid and shit like that).
No, you can't do that in Aion. First, at any time, you can be killed by another player because they can come through rifts and kill you. The only way to avoid this is to stay in your city. THe only way to avoid this is to not level out of the newbie zones, where enemy faction players can't enter.
Even in raids instances, it is PvPvE, which means both sides can enter the same instance. So if you have a party in an instance, I can take my party and enter the same instance and kill your party. That's why it's PvPvE
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
Well there is some forced PvP, the zones with the rifts do force it sometimes, basically he just wants to PvE and not have to worry about PvP.
No not really I want to level my characters, do quests, run dungeons and have the option to get into pvp when I feel like it. Is something like that available in Aion?
I basically want to do whatever i feel like. If that's solo pvp, pve or group dungeons and raids or instanced pvp it doesnt matter as long as I have a choice to do one of those and if I choose to keep away from a particular feature I wont actually have that feature forced on me because I shoose to do something else. (like being ganked when I want to raid and shit like that).
No, you can't do that in Aion. First, at any time, you can be killed by another player because they can come through rifts and kill you. The only way to avoid this is to stay in your city. THe only way to avoid this is to not level out of the newbie zones, where enemy faction players can't enter.
Even in raids instances, it is PvPvE, which means both sides can enter the same instance. So if you have a party in an instance, I can take my party and enter the same instance and kill your party. That's why it's PvPvE
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
Well, here's the thing... you can't hide in the instance forever. Eventually you will have to come out of it.
Again, it's not a strict pvp game. so if they want to play in the instances (and I think Dark Poeta is a pve instance as well) then they will do that. Of course I don't think it would warrant playing the game to just do a few instances but they can do that if that is their thing. Heck, in Lineage 2 players focus on some of the few instances until they are ready to come out. It can be done by people who have that mind set.
If one wants to mitigate their pvp time (not eliminate) then it seems that a vigilant player who does not want to pvp will be able to do so.
The thing is, there isn't much of a penalty to being killed by another player. Especially if they don't care about the abyss.
edit: yes dark Poeta is also a pve only instance. so there is no reason to believe that they won't add more pve only instances for those who want it.
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Well there is some forced PvP, the zones with the rifts do force it sometimes, basically he just wants to PvE and not have to worry about PvP.
No not really I want to level my characters, do quests, run dungeons and have the option to get into pvp when I feel like it. Is something like that available in Aion?
I basically want to do whatever i feel like. If that's solo pvp, pve or group dungeons and raids or instanced pvp it doesnt matter as long as I have a choice to do one of those and if I choose to keep away from a particular feature I wont actually have that feature forced on me because I shoose to do something else. (like being ganked when I want to raid and shit like that).
No, you can't do that in Aion. First, at any time, you can be killed by another player because they can come through rifts and kill you. The only way to avoid this is to stay in your city. THe only way to avoid this is to not level out of the newbie zones, where enemy faction players can't enter.
Even in raids instances, it is PvPvE, which means both sides can enter the same instance. So if you have a party in an instance, I can take my party and enter the same instance and kill your party. That's why it's PvPvE
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
Well, here's the thing... you can't hide in the instance forever. Eventually you will have to come out of it.
Again, it's not a strict pvp game. so if they want to play in the instances (and I think Dark Poeta is a pve instance as well) then they will do that. Of course I don't think it would warrant playing the game to just do a few instances but they can do that if that is their thing. Heck, in Lineage 2 players focus on some of the few instances until they are ready to come out. It can be done by people who have that mind set.
If one wants to mitigate their pvp time (not eliminate) then it seems that a vigilant player who does not want to pvp will be able to do so.
The thing is, there isn't much of a penalty to being killed by another player. Especially if they don't care about the abyss.
edit: yes dark Poeta is also a pve only instance. so there is no reason to believe that they won't add more pve only instances for those who want it.
I don't think anyone claimed it wsa a strict PvP game
but you can't play Aion under the expectation that you will only engage in PvP on your terms or never at all, which is the sense that I got from that other person. That just isn't a realistic expectation.
No, you can't do that in Aion. First, at any time, you can be killed by another player because they can come through rifts and kill you. The only way to avoid this is to stay in your city. THe only way to avoid this is to not level out of the newbie zones, where enemy faction players can't enter.
Even in raids instances, it is PvPvE, which means both sides can enter the same instance. So if you have a party in an instance, I can take my party and enter the same instance and kill your party. That's why it's PvPvE
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
Well, here's the thing... you can't hide in the instance forever. Eventually you will have to come out of it.
Again, it's not a strict pvp game. so if they want to play in the instances (and I think Dark Poeta is a pve instance as well) then they will do that. Of course I don't think it would warrant playing the game to just do a few instances but they can do that if that is their thing. Heck, in Lineage 2 players focus on some of the few instances until they are ready to come out. It can be done by people who have that mind set.
If one wants to mitigate their pvp time (not eliminate) then it seems that a vigilant player who does not want to pvp will be able to do so.
The thing is, there isn't much of a penalty to being killed by another player. Especially if they don't care about the abyss.
edit: yes dark Poeta is also a pve only instance. so there is no reason to believe that they won't add more pve only instances for those who want it.
I don't think anyone claimed it wsa a strict PvP game
but you can't play Aion under the expectation that you will only engage in PvP on your terms or never at all, which is the sense that I got from that other person. That just isn't a realistic expectation.
I completely agree. Which is why I said "mitigate" and clarified that I did not mean "eliminate".
If a player who hates all pvp and who will quit the first time they are killed in a pvp situation tries Aion then they will be very dissapointed.
However, some people are stating that if players don't like pvp at all then they shouldn't play Aion. I would say that if they don't like pvp at all but can put up with being killed here or there (as there really isn't a huge penalty) "might" be able to enjoy Aion.
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I think that has more to do with strictly pvp players who desperately want a more hardcore pvp game to move to. After following the game since it was announced, if one actually just took the info given, it was pretty clear that it was a somewhat balanced game between pvp and pve. One must contend with the other during certain aspects of the game but for the most part one can concentrate on one or the other. I have read that you will be getting some xp for kills in the upcoming 1.5 patch (though it might be implemented in the 1.2 patch and by default will be included in 1.5 release) but you really can't level off of that so that is where the pve game comes in. Pve players will always have to contend with rifts. Sure they can avoid them in certain areas and the slayer system puts a sort f soft time limit for players who went through the rift but they aren't immune to pvp. Just forewarned. but this info is out there for anyone who wants to take time to read it. What I have seen is players jumping to conclusions "just because".
Being a hardcore pvper doesn't mean you should act like a foaming at the mouth asshat damning everyone that likes pve in mmos. While I'm sure if i checked the net I would get more info but you have to realize it's not like Aion is a big game popularity wise. I just recently came to these forums. The majority of mmo gamers don't even check forums, we play our game and log out and that's it.
I came to this forum and was instantly shocked by the asshatery. I would like to thank you for the information you have given.
I will be giving Aion a try but you have to understand if people keep this "aion is hardcore" shit up they will be damning the game.People want accessible mmos not games that force everything on them. Maybe if someone can give a beta review from a casual pvers prospective of Aion that would be more helpful. As of right now fans of the game are hurting it more than anything.
I stil don't see how anything is "forced" on you. By simply signing up to play Aion, you are accepting that you will have to compete with others and that there will always be a risk that you will be killed by other players at any time.
Did you really just type that? so your saying my only choice to avoid a particular feature is to not actually sign up and play the game? sounds like some bullshit a Darkfall player would say.
You seem like one of those people that I'm talking about. players that spread misinformation and actually damage a games potential population.
Aion is geared to no extreme. It isn't a PvPer's paradise where you can kill anyone anywhere but it also isn't a PvE game either, it's PvPvE which means you have to put up with at least a little bit of PvP and you'll have to put up with a bit of PvE even if you just want to PvP all the time.
PvP will help your PvE goals and your PvE will help your PvP goals. Thats the concept of the game.
Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
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Just keep in mind that, as others have said, these rankings do not bring "uber" practical effects to your character. Yeah, you get a stat boost and a swanky new title. Yet when every Asmodian comes crashing down upon your Elyosian butt when you just nabbed that No. 1 slot, your victory will be short-lived. You'll be using those APs, too, so I don't think there will be a major banking policy when it comes to keeping them.
I think if someone has worked his or her butt off to obtain that Supreme Commander slot, they've earned it. The trick is going to be seeing who can maintain that slot for very long. I know if I were an eager low- to mid-ranked opponent, I would be finding some peers to tackle that enemy Supreme Commander. You earn your rank, and you keep what you deserve; if you are bested and the next rank guy (who happens to be your ally by the way) takes your spot, do the honorable thing. Back him up, protect him and fight in his defense. Then if you find yourself atop the leaderboard again, you may just have another ally to watch your back.
I think some of these posters have forgotten that these rankings are among each race on the servers, not serverwide. You will only be listed in the ranks with the people you will be fighting alongside to accomplish the same goals. Every gain made by ANYONE in each faction's warparties is a bonus to the greater good. So, like I said, if you want to earn rank, respect your superiors and earn their respect, so that when your time comes, they will fight for you.
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Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
Who's scared of open pvp? check my sig
I've played UO, AC and EQ both on hardcore pvp servers, DAoC and EVE lol. Last time I checked those games were way more hadcore than Aion.
I only want options in my gameplay and for me any feature that is forced is bullshit when it comes to MMOs.
Heres the deal in WoW I have the option to roll on a pve server if I want less of a headache when I'm questing and shit. IN EQ and AC they had pve servers, DAoC you could choose your level of commitment to pvp, In Eve you have empire if you want to stay safer. Only UO had forced pvp and I've outgrown that.
So again do I have this option in Aion?
Good I love how I'm considered a carebear now, to me you guys are the carebears since you can't be looted and scammed out of years of work if you get owned in pvp.Learn to play a game with real pvp and risk maybe?
Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
Who's scared of open pvp? check my sig
I've played UO, AC and EQ both on hardcore pvp servers, DAoC and EVE lol. Last time I checked those games were way more hadcore than Aion.
I only want options in my gameplay and for me any feature that is forced is bullshit when it comes to MMOs.
Heres the deal in WoW I have the option to roll on a pve server if I want less of a headache when I'm questing and shit. IN EQ and AC they had pve servers, DAoC you could choose your level of commitment to pvp, In Eve you have empire if you want to stay safer. Only UO had forced pvp and I've outgrown that.
So again do I have this option in Aion?
Good I love how I'm considered a carebear now, to me you guys are the carebears since you can't be looted and scammed out of years of work if you get owned in pvp.Learn to play a game with real pvp and risk maybe?
I fully support looting corpses in PvP.
Anyways, you can "avoid PvP" in Aion by never leaving the cities.
And what would be the point of it? Disallowing people from doing end-game PvE by limiting number of max level players is beyond retarded idea. I mean, are you for real and didn't even think for a second of consequences of that design or are you just trolling?
Nope. When everyone is "the best", nobody is.
If you want to be max level, you should have to prove you are better than everyone else. The easiest way to design it is to simply remove the idea of a level cap. Have unlimited leveling along with a system where you lose XP if you log off for too long.
Also, "End Game PvE" can be very subjective. All you need to do is create low to mid level "End Game PvE experiences" for people in the low to mid level range.
Guess being number one and proving you are better than everyone else is what happens when the FPS crowd dives into MMOs.
And I love FPS games, but I play MMOs for the social aspect and not to prove how badass I am with a keyboard and mouse.
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One benefit of this system is that it'll be much easier to pick out the people who are single, have no job, no life, probably have carpal tunnel and way too much free time. It's like a ranking system for social rejects. Awesome.
Seriously though, I think the idea is a decent one for PvP in a game that's PvP-focused and meant to be a bit of a grind like Aion. Not so sure about a PvE version though.
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In order to be truly max level in Aion, you not only need to reach level 50 in PvE, but you must also be number 1 in terms of your PvP rank, (which gives massive stat buffs) The PvP ranking scheme however follows a pyramid scheme, with the top rank having only 1 player slot. What this means is that in the entire server, only 1 person can fill the top rank slot. So in order to be max level, you must not only master the PvE by reaching level 50, but you must also obtain the one available player slot and be rank 1 in PvP. Only person in the entire server (for your side) can do this.
I wish more games were like this. If it were up to me, I'd make it go even further by extending it to PvE and having only a certain percentage of people allowed to be level 50, 40, 30, and so on.
And you read this where? I haven't seen anything about a "pyramid level or scheme"
In order to be truly max level in Aion, you not only need to reach level 50 in PvE, but you must also be number 1 in terms of your PvP rank, (which gives massive stat buffs) The PvP ranking scheme however follows a pyramid scheme, with the top rank having only 1 player slot. What this means is that in the entire server, only 1 person can fill the top rank slot. So in order to be max level, you must not only master the PvE by reaching level 50, but you must also obtain the one available player slot and be rank 1 in PvP. Only person in the entire server (for your side) can do this.
I wish more games were like this. If it were up to me, I'd make it go even further by extending it to PvE and having only a certain percentage of people allowed to be level 50, 40, 30, and so on.
And you read this where? I haven't seen anything about a "pyramid level or scheme"
In order to be truly max level in Aion, you not only need to reach level 50 in PvE, but you must also be number 1 in terms of your PvP rank, (which gives massive stat buffs) The PvP ranking scheme however follows a pyramid scheme, with the top rank having only 1 player slot. What this means is that in the entire server, only 1 person can fill the top rank slot. So in order to be max level, you must not only master the PvE by reaching level 50, but you must also obtain the one available player slot and be rank 1 in PvP. Only person in the entire server (for your side) can do this.
I wish more games were like this. If it were up to me, I'd make it go even further by extending it to PvE and having only a certain percentage of people allowed to be level 50, 40, 30, and so on.
And you read this where? I haven't seen anything about a "pyramid level or scheme"
Hmm I don't know. If I had to make a drawing to represent those numbers I would just draw a triangle.
Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
Who's scared of open pvp? check my sig
I've played UO, AC and EQ both on hardcore pvp servers, DAoC and EVE lol. Last time I checked those games were way more hadcore than Aion.
I only want options in my gameplay and for me any feature that is forced is bullshit when it comes to MMOs.
Heres the deal in WoW I have the option to roll on a pve server if I want less of a headache when I'm questing and shit. IN EQ and AC they had pve servers, DAoC you could choose your level of commitment to pvp, In Eve you have empire if you want to stay safer. Only UO had forced pvp and I've outgrown that.
So again do I have this option in Aion?
Good I love how I'm considered a carebear now, to me you guys are the carebears since you can't be looted and scammed out of years of work if you get owned in pvp.Learn to play a game with real pvp and risk maybe?
I fully support looting corpses in PvP.
Anyways, you can "avoid PvP" in Aion by never leaving the cities.
I can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I'll do some reading on the game later on today and see if the game is fully FFA or has dedicated zones, if the game does have dedicated pvp zones are all the pve dungeons and quests in these zones and does the game support ganking of lowbies. Like I said it's all about accessability and options, Why would I want to play a game that forces something on me when I have a game like WoW that lets me do whatever the hell I want? Lack of options killed lotro, killed WAR and killed AoC. Lets see if Aion also lacks player options and has forced features.
Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
Who's scared of open pvp? check my sig
I've played UO, AC and EQ both on hardcore pvp servers, DAoC and EVE lol. Last time I checked those games were way more hadcore than Aion.
I only want options in my gameplay and for me any feature that is forced is bullshit when it comes to MMOs.
Heres the deal in WoW I have the option to roll on a pve server if I want less of a headache when I'm questing and shit. IN EQ and AC they had pve servers, DAoC you could choose your level of commitment to pvp, In Eve you have empire if you want to stay safer. Only UO had forced pvp and I've outgrown that.
So again do I have this option in Aion?
Good I love how I'm considered a carebear now, to me you guys are the carebears since you can't be looted and scammed out of years of work if you get owned in pvp.Learn to play a game with real pvp and risk maybe?
I fully support looting corpses in PvP.
Anyways, you can "avoid PvP" in Aion by never leaving the cities.
I can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I'll do some reading on the game later on today and see if the game is fully FFA or has dedicated zones, if the game does have dedicated pvp zones are all the pve dungeons and quests in these zones and does the game support ganking of lowbies. Like I said it's all about accessability and options, Why would I want to play a game that forces something on me when I have a game like WoW that lets me do whatever the hell I want? Lack of options killed lotro, killed WAR and killed AoC. Lets see if Aion also lacks player options and has forced features.
What is the point of this post? You're stating that you need to do more research, just do it. If you find out you don't want to play then don't play.
There's a debuff system to stop higher level players from continuously griefing lowbies. The Abyss is the predominant PvP/RvR area. There will be PvE instanced dungeons seperate from this.
Idk what else to tell you from your statements, you should just research it on your own.
Personally I love the pyramid system for PvP only. I would hate to see it implemented in PvE, if it is implemented in PvE you will have less PvP opponents to fight at the end in epic battles.
Back in the day a long time ago when I still played, what I loved about the new (then new) wow PvP rating system was only one person could be grand marshal per week and it changed every week. Didn't like it when they changed that system though.
Even though I wont be playing Aion I still think the pyramid system is great for the dye hard PvPers and really gives them something to aim for.
What is the point of this post? You're stating that you need to do more research, just do it. If you find out you don't want to play then don't play. There's a debuff system to stop higher level players from continuously griefing lowbies. The Abyss is the predominant PvP/RvR area. There will be PvE instanced dungeons seperate from this. Idk what else to tell you from your statements, you should just research it on your own.
look at that information. btw why should I look up info on a game I didn't even know existed to about a week and change ago? Like I said Aion isn't well known outside the mmo forum circles, regular players (you know the 95% not on forums) know next to nothing about this game.
I can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I'll do some reading on the game later on today and see if the game is fully FFA or has dedicated zones, if the game does have dedicated pvp zones are all the pve dungeons and quests in these zones and does the game support ganking of lowbies. Like I said it's all about accessability and options, Why would I want to play a game that forces something on me when I have a game like WoW that lets me do whatever the hell I want? Lack of options killed lotro, killed WAR and killed AoC. Lets see if Aion also lacks player options and has forced features.
Remii,
The only fully dedicated pvp zone is the abyss.
No player from the opposing side can enter a new player area.
Otherwise rift gates can open up in any of the other zones. These allow players from the other side through.
There will be an announcement that a gate has opened and you will start seeing players looking for the enemy.
There is a higher lvl area in each of the sides that does not have rifts.
Some changes in 1.5 which is the release version:
A debuff the longer an enemy player is your zone or if they kill many players. The debuff consists of several components, one of which is to have that player marked on the map.
Guards will be around quest npc's.
There are several new pve only instances, The Battle Shugo and Old Poeta.
If you are vigilant then you can avoid pvp a good part of the time but you will not be able to avoid it all of the time unless you are extremely vigilant and lucky. My guess is that you will either be attacked at some point or you might even see them in the distance and you can decide to remove yourself from the area. As their names are red it's not hard to see them.
However, there are areas that opposing players can hide. Keep in mind, players WILL be looking for them and hunting them. Quite frankly, once it's known that an opposing force is in the area it won't be long until a large group is scouring the land for them.
If you die from an opposing player the penalty is practically nonexistant, especially if you don't care about abyss points.
My adivce? At least ry the game to lvl 20 and even a little bit more so that you are actually in an area with rift gates. You can then judge for yourself if you can tolerate it.
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well, your argument fails. If one takes the PVP rating as the final determinator [:D] then PVE is only an attribute. What would be the effect? Umm, remember, this is a business.... and you would have lost 99.998% of your business - everyone but the top two. Meh. I'll pass - sounds like a frag fest
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Being a hardcore pvper doesn't mean you should act like a foaming at the mouth asshat damning everyone that likes pve in mmos. While I'm sure if i checked the net I would get more info but you have to realize it's not like Aion is a big game popularity wise. I just recently came to these forums. The majority of mmo gamers don't even check forums, we play our game and log out and that's it.
I came to this forum and was instantly shocked by the asshatery. I would like to thank you for the information you have given.
I will be giving Aion a try but you have to understand if people keep this "aion is hardcore" shit up they will be damning the game. People want accessible mmos not games that force everything on them. Maybe if someone can give a beta review from a casual pvers prospective of Aion that would be more helpful. As of right now fans of the game are hurting it more than anything.
I stil don't see how anything is "forced" on you. By simply signing up to play Aion, you are accepting that you will have to compete with others and that there will always be a risk that you will be killed by other players at any time.
Well there is some forced PvP, the zones with the rifts do force it sometimes, basically he just wants to PvE and not have to worry about PvP.
No not really I want to level my characters, do quests, run dungeons and have the option to get into pvp when I feel like it. Is something like that available in Aion?
I basically want to do whatever i feel like. If that's solo pvp, pve or group dungeons and raids or instanced pvp it doesnt matter as long as I have a choice to do one of those and if I choose to keep away from a particular feature I wont actually have that feature forced on me because I shoose to do something else. (like being ganked when I want to raid and shit like that).
No, you can't do that in Aion. First, at any time, you can be killed by another player because they can come through rifts and kill you. The only way to avoid this is to stay in your city. THe only way to avoid this is to not level out of the newbie zones, where enemy faction players can't enter.
Even in raids instances, it is PvPvE, which means both sides can enter the same instance. So if you have a party in an instance, I can take my party and enter the same instance and kill your party. That's why it's PvPvE
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
www.curse.com/blogs/aion-en-news/archive/2009/06/13/aionsource-news-update-about-instances-in-aion.aspx
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Being a hardcore pvper doesn't mean you should act like a foaming at the mouth asshat damning everyone that likes pve in mmos. While I'm sure if i checked the net I would get more info but you have to realize it's not like Aion is a big game popularity wise. I just recently came to these forums. The majority of mmo gamers don't even check forums, we play our game and log out and that's it.
I came to this forum and was instantly shocked by the asshatery. I would like to thank you for the information you have given.
I will be giving Aion a try but you have to understand if people keep this "aion is hardcore" shit up they will be damning the game. People want accessible mmos not games that force everything on them. Maybe if someone can give a beta review from a casual pvers prospective of Aion that would be more helpful. As of right now fans of the game are hurting it more than anything.
I stil don't see how anything is "forced" on you. By simply signing up to play Aion, you are accepting that you will have to compete with others and that there will always be a risk that you will be killed by other players at any time.
Well there is some forced PvP, the zones with the rifts do force it sometimes, basically he just wants to PvE and not have to worry about PvP.
No not really I want to level my characters, do quests, run dungeons and have the option to get into pvp when I feel like it. Is something like that available in Aion?
I basically want to do whatever i feel like. If that's solo pvp, pve or group dungeons and raids or instanced pvp it doesnt matter as long as I have a choice to do one of those and if I choose to keep away from a particular feature I wont actually have that feature forced on me because I shoose to do something else. (like being ganked when I want to raid and shit like that).
No, you can't do that in Aion. First, at any time, you can be killed by another player because they can come through rifts and kill you. The only way to avoid this is to stay in your city. THe only way to avoid this is to not level out of the newbie zones, where enemy faction players can't enter.
Even in raids instances, it is PvPvE, which means both sides can enter the same instance. So if you have a party in an instance, I can take my party and enter the same instance and kill your party. That's why it's PvPvE
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
www.curse.com/blogs/aion-en-news/archive/2009/06/13/aionsource-news-update-about-instances-in-aion.aspx
Well, here's the thing... you can't hide in the instance forever. Eventually you will have to come out of it.
The only way a no limit level cap would work is if it was based on time like EvE, because any other way just caters to the Hardcore playerbase.
No not really I want to level my characters, do quests, run dungeons and have the option to get into pvp when I feel like it. Is something like that available in Aion?
I basically want to do whatever i feel like. If that's solo pvp, pve or group dungeons and raids or instanced pvp it doesnt matter as long as I have a choice to do one of those and if I choose to keep away from a particular feature I wont actually have that feature forced on me because I shoose to do something else. (like being ganked when I want to raid and shit like that).
No, you can't do that in Aion. First, at any time, you can be killed by another player because they can come through rifts and kill you. The only way to avoid this is to stay in your city. THe only way to avoid this is to not level out of the newbie zones, where enemy faction players can't enter.
Even in raids instances, it is PvPvE, which means both sides can enter the same instance. So if you have a party in an instance, I can take my party and enter the same instance and kill your party. That's why it's PvPvE
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
www.curse.com/blogs/aion-en-news/archive/2009/06/13/aionsource-news-update-about-instances-in-aion.aspx
Well, here's the thing... you can't hide in the instance forever. Eventually you will have to come out of it.
Again, it's not a strict pvp game. so if they want to play in the instances (and I think Dark Poeta is a pve instance as well) then they will do that. Of course I don't think it would warrant playing the game to just do a few instances but they can do that if that is their thing. Heck, in Lineage 2 players focus on some of the few instances until they are ready to come out. It can be done by people who have that mind set.
If one wants to mitigate their pvp time (not eliminate) then it seems that a vigilant player who does not want to pvp will be able to do so.
The thing is, there isn't much of a penalty to being killed by another player. Especially if they don't care about the abyss.
edit: yes dark Poeta is also a pve only instance. so there is no reason to believe that they won't add more pve only instances for those who want it.
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No not really I want to level my characters, do quests, run dungeons and have the option to get into pvp when I feel like it. Is something like that available in Aion?
I basically want to do whatever i feel like. If that's solo pvp, pve or group dungeons and raids or instanced pvp it doesnt matter as long as I have a choice to do one of those and if I choose to keep away from a particular feature I wont actually have that feature forced on me because I shoose to do something else. (like being ganked when I want to raid and shit like that).
No, you can't do that in Aion. First, at any time, you can be killed by another player because they can come through rifts and kill you. The only way to avoid this is to stay in your city. THe only way to avoid this is to not level out of the newbie zones, where enemy faction players can't enter.
Even in raids instances, it is PvPvE, which means both sides can enter the same instance. So if you have a party in an instance, I can take my party and enter the same instance and kill your party. That's why it's PvPvE
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
www.curse.com/blogs/aion-en-news/archive/2009/06/13/aionsource-news-update-about-instances-in-aion.aspx
Well, here's the thing... you can't hide in the instance forever. Eventually you will have to come out of it.
Again, it's not a strict pvp game. so if they want to play in the instances (and I think Dark Poeta is a pve instance as well) then they will do that. Of course I don't think it would warrant playing the game to just do a few instances but they can do that if that is their thing. Heck, in Lineage 2 players focus on some of the few instances until they are ready to come out. It can be done by people who have that mind set.
If one wants to mitigate their pvp time (not eliminate) then it seems that a vigilant player who does not want to pvp will be able to do so.
The thing is, there isn't much of a penalty to being killed by another player. Especially if they don't care about the abyss.
edit: yes dark Poeta is also a pve only instance. so there is no reason to believe that they won't add more pve only instances for those who want it.
I don't think anyone claimed it wsa a strict PvP game
but you can't play Aion under the expectation that you will only engage in PvP on your terms or never at all, which is the sense that I got from that other person. That just isn't a realistic expectation.
I don't think tha'ts exactly true. It is true that there are 3 new types of instances (whihc doesn't speak to the instances that are aready in the game).
As far as I'm reading, 2 of the instances have both pvp and pve. but the last instance, the battle shugo instance seems like it is just pve.
3. Battle-shugos
- This is supposed to be a fun leveling instance for people still stuck in the leveling stage of Aion. This instance will be designed like a ship with evolved Shugos that are hostile to the players.This instance is designed with casual players in mind and will contain many quests.
www.curse.com/blogs/aion-en-news/archive/2009/06/13/aionsource-news-update-about-instances-in-aion.aspx
Well, here's the thing... you can't hide in the instance forever. Eventually you will have to come out of it.
Again, it's not a strict pvp game. so if they want to play in the instances (and I think Dark Poeta is a pve instance as well) then they will do that. Of course I don't think it would warrant playing the game to just do a few instances but they can do that if that is their thing. Heck, in Lineage 2 players focus on some of the few instances until they are ready to come out. It can be done by people who have that mind set.
If one wants to mitigate their pvp time (not eliminate) then it seems that a vigilant player who does not want to pvp will be able to do so.
The thing is, there isn't much of a penalty to being killed by another player. Especially if they don't care about the abyss.
edit: yes dark Poeta is also a pve only instance. so there is no reason to believe that they won't add more pve only instances for those who want it.
I don't think anyone claimed it wsa a strict PvP game
but you can't play Aion under the expectation that you will only engage in PvP on your terms or never at all, which is the sense that I got from that other person. That just isn't a realistic expectation.
I completely agree. Which is why I said "mitigate" and clarified that I did not mean "eliminate".
If a player who hates all pvp and who will quit the first time they are killed in a pvp situation tries Aion then they will be very dissapointed.
However, some people are stating that if players don't like pvp at all then they shouldn't play Aion. I would say that if they don't like pvp at all but can put up with being killed here or there (as there really isn't a huge penalty) "might" be able to enjoy Aion.
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Being a hardcore pvper doesn't mean you should act like a foaming at the mouth asshat damning everyone that likes pve in mmos. While I'm sure if i checked the net I would get more info but you have to realize it's not like Aion is a big game popularity wise. I just recently came to these forums. The majority of mmo gamers don't even check forums, we play our game and log out and that's it.
I came to this forum and was instantly shocked by the asshatery. I would like to thank you for the information you have given.
I will be giving Aion a try but you have to understand if people keep this "aion is hardcore" shit up they will be damning the game. People want accessible mmos not games that force everything on them. Maybe if someone can give a beta review from a casual pvers prospective of Aion that would be more helpful. As of right now fans of the game are hurting it more than anything.
I stil don't see how anything is "forced" on you. By simply signing up to play Aion, you are accepting that you will have to compete with others and that there will always be a risk that you will be killed by other players at any time.
Did you really just type that? so your saying my only choice to avoid a particular feature is to not actually sign up and play the game? sounds like some bullshit a Darkfall player would say.
You seem like one of those people that I'm talking about. players that spread misinformation and actually damage a games potential population.
Don't play the game - simple. It's not for you.
Aion is geared to no extreme. It isn't a PvPer's paradise where you can kill anyone anywhere but it also isn't a PvE game either, it's PvPvE which means you have to put up with at least a little bit of PvP and you'll have to put up with a bit of PvE even if you just want to PvP all the time.
PvP will help your PvE goals and your PvE will help your PvP goals. Thats the concept of the game.
Why?
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Why?
Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
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Just keep in mind that, as others have said, these rankings do not bring "uber" practical effects to your character. Yeah, you get a stat boost and a swanky new title. Yet when every Asmodian comes crashing down upon your Elyosian butt when you just nabbed that No. 1 slot, your victory will be short-lived. You'll be using those APs, too, so I don't think there will be a major banking policy when it comes to keeping them.
I think if someone has worked his or her butt off to obtain that Supreme Commander slot, they've earned it. The trick is going to be seeing who can maintain that slot for very long. I know if I were an eager low- to mid-ranked opponent, I would be finding some peers to tackle that enemy Supreme Commander. You earn your rank, and you keep what you deserve; if you are bested and the next rank guy (who happens to be your ally by the way) takes your spot, do the honorable thing. Back him up, protect him and fight in his defense. Then if you find yourself atop the leaderboard again, you may just have another ally to watch your back.
I think some of these posters have forgotten that these rankings are among each race on the servers, not serverwide. You will only be listed in the ranks with the people you will be fighting alongside to accomplish the same goals. Every gain made by ANYONE in each faction's warparties is a bonus to the greater good. So, like I said, if you want to earn rank, respect your superiors and earn their respect, so that when your time comes, they will fight for you.
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Why?
Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
Who's scared of open pvp? check my sig
I've played UO, AC and EQ both on hardcore pvp servers, DAoC and EVE lol. Last time I checked those games were way more hadcore than Aion.
I only want options in my gameplay and for me any feature that is forced is bullshit when it comes to MMOs.
Heres the deal in WoW I have the option to roll on a pve server if I want less of a headache when I'm questing and shit. IN EQ and AC they had pve servers, DAoC you could choose your level of commitment to pvp, In Eve you have empire if you want to stay safer. Only UO had forced pvp and I've outgrown that.
So again do I have this option in Aion?
Good I love how I'm considered a carebear now, to me you guys are the carebears since you can't be looted and scammed out of years of work if you get owned in pvp. Learn to play a game with real pvp and risk maybe?
Playing: WoW, EvE
Interested in: TOR, ER, GW2, WoD, Dust514
Why?
Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
Who's scared of open pvp? check my sig
I've played UO, AC and EQ both on hardcore pvp servers, DAoC and EVE lol. Last time I checked those games were way more hadcore than Aion.
I only want options in my gameplay and for me any feature that is forced is bullshit when it comes to MMOs.
Heres the deal in WoW I have the option to roll on a pve server if I want less of a headache when I'm questing and shit. IN EQ and AC they had pve servers, DAoC you could choose your level of commitment to pvp, In Eve you have empire if you want to stay safer. Only UO had forced pvp and I've outgrown that.
So again do I have this option in Aion?
Good I love how I'm considered a carebear now, to me you guys are the carebears since you can't be looted and scammed out of years of work if you get owned in pvp. Learn to play a game with real pvp and risk maybe?
I fully support looting corpses in PvP.
Anyways, you can "avoid PvP" in Aion by never leaving the cities.
Nope. When everyone is "the best", nobody is.
If you want to be max level, you should have to prove you are better than everyone else. The easiest way to design it is to simply remove the idea of a level cap. Have unlimited leveling along with a system where you lose XP if you log off for too long.
Also, "End Game PvE" can be very subjective. All you need to do is create low to mid level "End Game PvE experiences" for people in the low to mid level range.
Guess being number one and proving you are better than everyone else is what happens when the FPS crowd dives into MMOs.
And I love FPS games, but I play MMOs for the social aspect and not to prove how badass I am with a keyboard and mouse.
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One benefit of this system is that it'll be much easier to pick out the people who are single, have no job, no life, probably have carpal tunnel and way too much free time. It's like a ranking system for social rejects. Awesome.
Seriously though, I think the idea is a decent one for PvP in a game that's PvP-focused and meant to be a bit of a grind like Aion. Not so sure about a PvE version though.
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And you read this where? I haven't seen anything about a "pyramid level or scheme"
And you read this where? I haven't seen anything about a "pyramid level or scheme"
And you read this where? I haven't seen anything about a "pyramid level or scheme"
Hmm I don't know. If I had to make a drawing to represent those numbers I would just draw a triangle.
Why?
Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
Who's scared of open pvp? check my sig
I've played UO, AC and EQ both on hardcore pvp servers, DAoC and EVE lol. Last time I checked those games were way more hadcore than Aion.
I only want options in my gameplay and for me any feature that is forced is bullshit when it comes to MMOs.
Heres the deal in WoW I have the option to roll on a pve server if I want less of a headache when I'm questing and shit. IN EQ and AC they had pve servers, DAoC you could choose your level of commitment to pvp, In Eve you have empire if you want to stay safer. Only UO had forced pvp and I've outgrown that.
So again do I have this option in Aion?
Good I love how I'm considered a carebear now, to me you guys are the carebears since you can't be looted and scammed out of years of work if you get owned in pvp. Learn to play a game with real pvp and risk maybe?
I fully support looting corpses in PvP.
Anyways, you can "avoid PvP" in Aion by never leaving the cities.
I can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I'll do some reading on the game later on today and see if the game is fully FFA or has dedicated zones, if the game does have dedicated pvp zones are all the pve dungeons and quests in these zones and does the game support ganking of lowbies. Like I said it's all about accessability and options, Why would I want to play a game that forces something on me when I have a game like WoW that lets me do whatever the hell I want? Lack of options killed lotro, killed WAR and killed AoC. Lets see if Aion also lacks player options and has forced features.
Playing: WoW, EvE
Interested in: TOR, ER, GW2, WoD, Dust514
Why?
Well if your scared of open world PvP you probably shouldn't play a game like Aion. Because PvP will happen, it's one of the many features of the game if you bothered to research about it.
Who's scared of open pvp? check my sig
I've played UO, AC and EQ both on hardcore pvp servers, DAoC and EVE lol. Last time I checked those games were way more hadcore than Aion.
I only want options in my gameplay and for me any feature that is forced is bullshit when it comes to MMOs.
Heres the deal in WoW I have the option to roll on a pve server if I want less of a headache when I'm questing and shit. IN EQ and AC they had pve servers, DAoC you could choose your level of commitment to pvp, In Eve you have empire if you want to stay safer. Only UO had forced pvp and I've outgrown that.
So again do I have this option in Aion?
Good I love how I'm considered a carebear now, to me you guys are the carebears since you can't be looted and scammed out of years of work if you get owned in pvp. Learn to play a game with real pvp and risk maybe?
I fully support looting corpses in PvP.
Anyways, you can "avoid PvP" in Aion by never leaving the cities.
I can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I'll do some reading on the game later on today and see if the game is fully FFA or has dedicated zones, if the game does have dedicated pvp zones are all the pve dungeons and quests in these zones and does the game support ganking of lowbies. Like I said it's all about accessability and options, Why would I want to play a game that forces something on me when I have a game like WoW that lets me do whatever the hell I want? Lack of options killed lotro, killed WAR and killed AoC. Lets see if Aion also lacks player options and has forced features.
What is the point of this post? You're stating that you need to do more research, just do it. If you find out you don't want to play then don't play.
There's a debuff system to stop higher level players from continuously griefing lowbies. The Abyss is the predominant PvP/RvR area. There will be PvE instanced dungeons seperate from this.
Idk what else to tell you from your statements, you should just research it on your own.
Personally I love the pyramid system for PvP only. I would hate to see it implemented in PvE, if it is implemented in PvE you will have less PvP opponents to fight at the end in epic battles.
Back in the day a long time ago when I still played, what I loved about the new (then new) wow PvP rating system was only one person could be grand marshal per week and it changed every week. Didn't like it when they changed that system though.
Even though I wont be playing Aion I still think the pyramid system is great for the dye hard PvPers and really gives them something to aim for.
Just my personal opinion
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look at that information. btw why should I look up info on a game I didn't even know existed to about a week and change ago? Like I said Aion isn't well known outside the mmo forum circles, regular players (you know the 95% not on forums) know next to nothing about this game.
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Remii,
The only fully dedicated pvp zone is the abyss.
No player from the opposing side can enter a new player area.
Otherwise rift gates can open up in any of the other zones. These allow players from the other side through.
There will be an announcement that a gate has opened and you will start seeing players looking for the enemy.
There is a higher lvl area in each of the sides that does not have rifts.
Some changes in 1.5 which is the release version:
A debuff the longer an enemy player is your zone or if they kill many players. The debuff consists of several components, one of which is to have that player marked on the map.
Guards will be around quest npc's.
There are several new pve only instances, The Battle Shugo and Old Poeta.
If you are vigilant then you can avoid pvp a good part of the time but you will not be able to avoid it all of the time unless you are extremely vigilant and lucky. My guess is that you will either be attacked at some point or you might even see them in the distance and you can decide to remove yourself from the area. As their names are red it's not hard to see them.
However, there are areas that opposing players can hide. Keep in mind, players WILL be looking for them and hunting them. Quite frankly, once it's known that an opposing force is in the area it won't be long until a large group is scouring the land for them.
If you die from an opposing player the penalty is practically nonexistant, especially if you don't care about abyss points.
My adivce? At least ry the game to lvl 20 and even a little bit more so that you are actually in an area with rift gates. You can then judge for yourself if you can tolerate it.
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well, your argument fails. If one takes the PVP rating as the final determinator [:D] then PVE is only an attribute. What would be the effect? Umm, remember, this is a business.... and you would have lost 99.998% of your business - everyone but the top two. Meh. I'll pass - sounds like a frag fest
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