Aion is a solid game. It has its faults but for the most part it is enjoyable. I do think a lot of people are expecting too much from the game. I will say that I find it funny all of the overreactions here on the board after only a few hours of open beta gameplay.
I played Aion, and started falling asleep. I don't know what it is, I was really excited about playing the game too. The quests don't really keep me interested, and I felt it was boring. Not trying to flame, I really wish this game was the one for me, I was waiting a year for it. Oh well...
Aion's 'hype' has purely been through expectant players and not based on any outlandish claims by NCSoft that they are a WOW killer.
Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
Did you play WoW in open beta? Blizzards open beta for WoW was 10 times worst then this. Try waiting in a hour que to play and once you started playing the servers crashed. So far I think it's been a good start to open beta for Aion.
That was five years ago, are you saying NCsoft should be given the slack we gave blizzard with all the new tech they have that blizzard didnt in '04?
You have to be kidding me.
Blizzard didn't get ANY slack when it happened to them 5 years ago. Basically the same thing thats being said on these boards was being said on the web. AS people tried to point out then i'll say it now...it's BETA.
And No i'm not kidding you.
Beta of an eight month old game? is the server tech that much different in Korea? Is there no way NCsoft could have avoided this disaster?
I normally try not to insult or flame people, but Metalhead, are you stupid? Honestly, are you truly stupid or just trying to troll and get people worked up. Any time you stand up new hardware, there can and will be an issue. It happens. The first 7 hours of open beta, and I am stressing the word beta, there have been several issues. Guess what, it is a large scale stress test. I dont care if it is running in korea, because it is not the same hardware, same network, same pipes. That is why they stress test it, to get the kinks worked out before release. The fact you are claiming failure for issues during BETA shows your lack of knowledge and intelligence or the fact you are just trying to get a reaction like a good lil troll. Which is it?
Aion's 'hype' has purely been through expectant players and not based on any outlandish claims by NCSoft that they are a WOW killer.
Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
Did you play WoW in open beta? Blizzards open beta for WoW was 10 times worst then this. Try waiting in a hour que to play and once you started playing the servers crashed. So far I think it's been a good start to open beta for Aion.
That was five years ago, are you saying NCsoft should be given the slack we gave blizzard with all the new tech they have that blizzard didnt in '04?
You have to be kidding me.
Blizzard didn't get ANY slack when it happened to them 5 years ago. Basically the same thing thats being said on these boards was being said on the web. AS people tried to point out then i'll say it now...it's BETA.
And No i'm not kidding you.
i can give slack if the game concept is fair .wich i did i pre-ordered the game lol
before the game was regular game you can have in f2p market rune of magic or even better the chronicle of spellborn
but today gets the palm its not the game its on the server side ,hell no .
server in 2009 are almost auto construct lol
even rune of magic hasnt had problem there
nope i cannot recommend this game i have been saying it for months in here its too expensive
you can get same quality in the chronicle of spellborne
its f2p probably has ingame store
rom will release book 2 this month another great f2p game
ddo f2p will go live soon.as you see its just the one i remember
but im sure if i ask here there are lot of others dont spend or make your parent spend money on a game that
isnt ready yet ,hell im sorry but ., m sure some of your remember some game lunched not long ago that are almost ignored
Yet Aion is supposed to be a WoW killer? lets put aion against WoW? it's not even a contest.
Yes... lets put a Game thats been out for about a year to a game thats been out for 5. Yes. Lets do that.
And What does it matter if its a WoW killer or not? Does a MMO have to "kill" WoW in order for you to play it?
If you want to compare anything. Lets compare f Aion's Closed betas to WoW's... Now thats no contest at all. Aion wins hands down. Why? b/c lag and gameplay in WoW was so horrible during beta that like FE you couldn't even log in to play. WoW still fails with its beta's and even with the finish patch releases. Get 50 wow players together in one area and the world servers crash.
Aion has been out for eight months in korea? right?
When WoW was eight months old it was a much better game than Aion.
Also on day 1 wow had a better combat system and still does. it's like NCsoft has learned nothing.
A pvp game with a worse combat system than a pve focused game like wow? lol
When WoW was eight months old it didn't have to compete with WoW to be the best.
WoW had no contest when it was eight months old so of course it was good. And you Forget. Aion wasn't ment for Westerners. It was ment for Koreans/ Asians. And on that note its very successful. They are just opening it up to the rest of the world to play for other people that like what Aion has to offer. If you don't like it Don't play it. But don't put it up with WoW. It isn't wow yes. Because its not trying to be WoW 2.0. It just used some of the things that wow made successful and added it to a Asian MMO type game.
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If memory serves me right, the first two weeks of WoW was unplayable....so much so,that they gave everyone 2 weeks on to thier account to make up for it.this is only open beta no release like WoW in the first 2 weeks .i wouldnt go bashing this game before you think back to the early days of your awsome game of lag fest:)
What disaster are you all talking about, I have had no issues at all 1 minor bug and 10min of down time so far, for a live game thats good for a beta (and yes there are diffrences in the wester clients and eastern) its damn good.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Aion's 'hype' has purely been through expectant players and not based on any outlandish claims by NCSoft that they are a WOW killer.
Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
If memory serves me right, the first two weeks of WoW was unplayable....so much so,that they gave everyone 2 weeks on to thier account to make up for it.this is only open beta no release like WoW in the first 2 weeks .i wouldnt go bashing this game before you think back to the early days of your awsome game of lag fest:)
What disaster are you all talking about, I have had no issues at all 1 minor bug and 10min of down time so far, for a live game thats good for a beta (and yes there are diffrences in the wester clients and eastern) its damn good.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Because it has nothing to do with the game. It is due to the new hardware stood up for the NA/EU release of the game. It is not a software test, it is a hardware/stress test. Honestly, get a damn clue before you run your mouth and make yourself look stupid.
What disaster are you all talking about, I have had no issues at all 1 minor bug and 10min of down time so far, for a live game thats good for a beta (and yes there are diffrences in the wester clients and eastern) its damn good.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Are you stupid? Seriously? There are other hardware, other peoples who take care of the servers, and many, MANY other things.
And again, if you didn't read my previous post. This is NOT about the game, is about the servers. Anyway, why are u complaining now? Everything is NORMAL now on Aion, it has been fixed like, 4 hours ago? Now gtfo.
EDIT: Servers are back online , so MetalHead I will enjoy Aion, you just...stay here and cry ok?
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What disaster are you all talking about, I have had no issues at all 1 minor bug and 10min of down time so far, for a live game thats good for a beta (and yes there are diffrences in the wester clients and eastern) its damn good.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Because it has nothing to do with the game. It is due to the new hardware stood up for the NA/EU release of the game. It is not a software test, it is a hardware/stress test. Honestly, get a damn clue before you run your mouth and make yourself look stupid.
^^This. Second.
Its the people testing the hardware in NA that are causing the problems. If you haven't noticed. Global games have servers around the world. We don't play on Korean servers. Nor do we play on EU servers... we play on NA servers.
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While the open beta so far has been pretty much garbage compared to the close betas I don't think anyone was expecting Aion to be a WoW killer. Aion is a little too hardcore and asian'ish for your typical WoW player that and it isn't a Blizzard title where as a lot of people that play WoW are straight up Blizzard gamers/hardcore fans and not MMO gamers.
For PvP players, it will be a "WoW Killer" in many players eyes, but overall it wont kill WoW.
WoW is already stablished and has millions of players linked to it, if for no other reason, because they have ties with so many friends and got close with many guild members.
The people you play with, usually make MMO's fun, more then the actual game.
Even AoC and WAR were fun if you had good people to play with.
For a "niche" pvp crowd sure but that pvp crowd never liked WoW in the first place.
You would be surprised how big Wintergrasp is in WoW nowdays. Many people consider it the best part of the expansion.
Aion's 'hype' has purely been through expectant players and not based on any outlandish claims by NCSoft that they are a WOW killer.
Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
Apparently someone didn't play wow when it first launched, let alone in beta. Can you say servers down for 1 week? Can you say item database servers borked for a month?
That is the reason they have an open beta, to get the servers prepared for launch. Nobody has ever done it perfect, but I can tell you this, Aion is 100x more stable than wow was in open beta.
Aion's 'hype' has purely been through expectant players and not based on any outlandish claims by NCSoft that they are a WOW killer.
Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
Did you play WoW in open beta? Blizzards open beta for WoW was 10 times worst then this. Try waiting in a hour que to play and once you started playing the servers crashed. So far I think it's been a good start to open beta for Aion.
That was five years ago, are you saying NCsoft should be given the slack we gave blizzard with all the new tech they have that blizzard didnt in '04?
You have to be kidding me.
Blizzard didn't get ANY slack when it happened to them 5 years ago. Basically the same thing thats being said on these boards was being said on the web. AS people tried to point out then i'll say it now...it's BETA.
And No i'm not kidding you.
Beta of an eight month old game? is the server tech that much different in Korea? Is there no way NCsoft could have avoided this disaster?
I normally try not to insult or flame people, but Metalhead, are you stupid? Honestly, are you truly stupid or just trying to troll and get people worked up. Any time you stand up new hardware, there can and will be an issue. It happens. The first 7 hours of open beta, and I am stressing the word beta, there have been several issues. Guess what, it is a large scale stress test. I dont care if it is running in korea, because it is not the same hardware, same network, same pipes. That is why they stress test it, to get the kinks worked out before release. The fact you are claiming failure for issues during BETA shows your lack of knowledge and intelligence or the fact you are just trying to get a reaction like a good lil troll. Which is it?
mm .they had months since the first beta not weeks months.lol
server being stressed i wonder how!
at release it will be way worst then today ,i wont count the weeks people works on the weks
but i can say its not their first beta of this game they ve been adding content progressivly to test
but now its not related to the game its on the server side lol.you think they got months to correct this before player move on
i dont believe so!
oh if they find the issue before lunch cool .
one thing is sure guys there are plenty of good f2p avail that are good and are cost free at start
aion is what 40 $,50$ plus monthly
hell you can try a f2p game for good while before you even spent 1 cent on it lol
and if issue arrise like here no biggy it didnt cost 40$
Yet Aion is supposed to be a WoW killer? lets put aion against WoW? it's not even a contest.
Yes... lets put a Game thats been out for about a year to a game thats been out for 5. Yes. Lets do that.
And What does it matter if its a WoW killer or not? Does a MMO have to "kill" WoW in order for you to play it?
If you want to compare anything. Lets compare f Aion's Closed betas to WoW's... Now thats no contest at all. Aion wins hands down. Why? b/c lag and gameplay in WoW was so horrible during beta that like FE you couldn't even log in to play. WoW still fails with its beta's and even with the finish patch releases. Get 50 wow players together in one area and the world servers crash.
Aion has been out for eight months in korea? right?
When WoW was eight months old it was a much better game than Aion.
Also on day 1 wow had a better combat system and still does. it's like NCsoft has learned nothing.
A pvp game with a worse combat system than a pve focused game like wow? lol
I completely disagree with this.
WoW at that time only had one finished raid, very little PvE content, and was JUST finishing up their honor system.
Not sure what your complaints about the combat system are, its very similar to WoW, with an added Combo system, movement buffs, and flight.
I question if you even leveled over level 5 in Aion.
What disaster are you all talking about, I have had no issues at all 1 minor bug and 10min of down time so far, for a live game thats good for a beta (and yes there are diffrences in the wester clients and eastern) its damn good.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Yeah, I'm going to have to be with LodenDSG on this one. Besides the 'expected' maintenance as they continually tweak with new updates, AS THEY TOLD YOU THEY WOULD DURING OPEN BETA, its been smooth sailing.
What 'issues' are you complaining about, or are you just looking for something to complain about?
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I am guessing that. Some people just love to complain.
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I have to say, while some ideas behind it looks good, the graphics and engine looks like something from 1991. It looks REALLY bad. Not for me. 10 times rather play Aion." Sorry I ment to do a quote.
Wolfenstine 3d was released in 92?
Heh I love it when people make things out to be way worse than they actually are.
Beta of an eight month old game? is the server tech that much different in Korea? Is there no way NCsoft could have avoided this disaster?
I'm sorry you don't really understand what is going on with this open beta. Much like ANY open beta, the compression on data streams isn't there. They are trying to test their hardware to its max potential to see what is even possible and if they would have to cap a server's capacity.
I was there during Blizzards launch of World of Warcraft and I have to say, it's absolutely no different now than it was then. Sure, the code on Aion is about 2 years in and is relatively bug free, but the servers are NEW and need tested.
What disaster are you all talking about, I have had no issues at all 1 minor bug and 10min of down time so far, for a live game thats good for a beta (and yes there are diffrences in the wester clients and eastern) its damn good.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Yeah, I'm going to have to be with LodenDSG on this one. Besides the 'expected' maintenance as they continually tweak with new updates, AS THEY TOLD YOU THEY WOULD DURING OPEN BETA, its been smooth sailing.
What 'issues' are you complaining about, or are you just looking for something to complain about?
stop reading this post ,tread are poping up all over this site AND probably others too lol
What disaster are you all talking about, I have had no issues at all 1 minor bug and 10min of down time so far, for a live game thats good for a beta (and yes there are diffrences in the wester clients and eastern) its damn good.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Yeah, I'm going to have to be with LodenDSG on this one. Besides the 'expected' maintenance as they continually tweak with new updates, AS THEY TOLD YOU THEY WOULD DURING OPEN BETA, its been smooth sailing.
What 'issues' are you complaining about, or are you just looking for something to complain about?
The only issue they are legitimately having right now are some routing issues, which are NOT their fault, but have been pinpointed to Limelight Networks, and Level3's servers. I put up a poll on the official forums and over 90% of the players having routing issues are having problems with these two ISP's.
There is also a workaround which I have posted in the official forums, and linked on here as well, to provide assistance for those with the problems mentioned.
Level3 is notorious for this type of thing - I had issues with them in the past on both WoW and on Asherons Call when I lived in NY. Even once they have reports, it took them weeks to fix it. Hopefully LLNW will be faster to respond, but doubtful.
But to blame either of these problems on NCSoft would be unfair, as all they could do is report the problem to the ISPs in question.
mm .they had months since the first beta not weeks months.lol server being stressed i wonder how! at release it will be way worst then today ,i wont count the weeks people works on the weks but i can say its not their first beta of this game they ve been adding content progressivly to test but now its not related to the game its on the server side lol.you think they got months to correct this before player move on i dont believe so! oh if they find the issue before lunch cool . one thing is sure guys there are plenty of good f2p avail that are good and are cost free at start aion is what 40 $,50$ plus monthly hell you can try a f2p game for good while before you even spent 1 cent on it lol and if issue arrise like here no biggy it didnt cost 40$ can aion futur buyer say that?
Any game you buy will cost $. Although I agree that MMO's that charge monthy Subscriptions shouldn't shouldn't charge $40 for the game itself but when you think about it they do give you 1-2 months free playing time so you really are only paying ~$25 for a game which isn't bad all things considering. They need to make a little money in case you play the game and don't like it. We dish out close to $80 now for PS3/360 games (Modern Warefare 2 is gunna cost more) and we don't complain even close to as much as we do about MMO's.
You know what the difference between a free MMO and a paid MMO is? The paid MMO keeps you playing for years and the free one keeps you occupied for a month at most. I've tried almost every free mmo in hopes of finding something to kill some time while I wait for Jumpgate/Aion/Global Agenda/The Secret World and Earthrise but none of those free games kept me entertained for more than a couple of minutes.
So yeah... free mmos... gtfo IMO.
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You know what the difference between a free MMO and a paid MMO is? The paid MMO keeps you playing for years and the free one keeps you occupied for a month at most. I've tried almost every free mmo in hopes of finding something to kill some time while I wait for Jumpgate/Aion/Global Agenda/The Secret World and Earthrise but none of those free games kept me entertained for more than a couple of minutes.
So yeah... free mmos... gtfo IMO.
QFE.
This is pretty much my stance on this as well. I've played tons and tons of f2p's. Only few kept me playing for more than a week at max, and if, then just because I played with buddies and there was nothing else to do... p2p's are the way to go.
f2p = have fun when people with lots of irl $ come around and kick your butt with their cash shop items.
What disaster are you all talking about, I have had no issues at all 1 minor bug and 10min of down time so far, for a live game thats good for a beta (and yes there are diffrences in the wester clients and eastern) its damn good.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Yeah, I'm going to have to be with LodenDSG on this one. Besides the 'expected' maintenance as they continually tweak with new updates, AS THEY TOLD YOU THEY WOULD DURING OPEN BETA, its been smooth sailing.
What 'issues' are you complaining about, or are you just looking for something to complain about?
The only issue they are legitimately having right now are some routing issues, which are NOT their fault, but have been pinpointed to Limelight Networks, and Level3's servers. I put up a poll on the official forums and over 90% of the players having routing issues are having problems with these two ISP's.
There is also a workaround which I have posted in the official forums, and linked on here as well, to provide assistance for those with the problems mentioned.
Level3 is notorious for this type of thing - I had issues with them in the past on both WoW and on Asherons Call when I lived in NY. Even once they have reports, it took them weeks to fix it. Hopefully LLNW will be faster to respond, but doubtful.
But to blame either of these problems on NCSoft would be unfair, as all they could do is report the problem to the ISPs in question.
men you were right after trying the link you posted elsewhere i tested like you write and bam leve3 blocked me in baltimore
did like you said posted the result just in case ncsoft find a bouncer to go move lvl3 emotional chip a bit on the good side
still suck cant play like that and i wont use the work around lol i already pay my provider to get good connection
i guess no aion for me and if your right 90% of the other who has problem
THAT REMOVE LOT OF FUTUR CUSTOMER FROM AION
ty for the help dude ,im still frustrated about this .i would understand if it was in africa ,baton rouge
but hell not baltimore ,gess president has been saying he want usa connected and cant connect in his backyard (baltimore )kind of funny
Even more, NCSOFT even said they never meant this game to be a "WoW Killer"
Anyway, the term "WoW Killer" itself is idiotic and anyone who uses it seriously, is a moron.
No game will ever "Kill" WoW because what people mean by that is a game taking the number one spot in SUBSCRIBERS, not actually being a better game.
There are quite a few MMO's that are much, much better than WoW in every way, to me and to the majority of people in the MMO world. (These are all opinions, or do you not realize that?)
So yes, you're right when you say it's not even a contest. AION is LEAPS AND BOUNDS above WoW. It's better than WoW in almost every way. Perfect? Not even close, but it's the most fun i've had playing an MMO in many years, and completely blows WoW out of the water when it comes to all the things I look for in an MMO. Even more, this is after the 5 years WoW has had to add content, better the game, and release two expansions.
I wish the ignorance would stop and people would quit saying "WoW Killer" because no game will ever appeal to the masses like WoW did or be able to advertise like WoW did and does.
However there are PLENTY of MMO's that are already out, and plenty coming out that are better than WoW so in that sense, WoW has already been beaten many times over. It just depends on who you ask.
I don't care what games you like or what games you dislike, it's irrelevent to me. Everyone has an opinion and yours is no more valid than the retard down the street.
You bitch about AION claiming to be a WoW killer, when almost every new MMO that has come out since WoW has had the same stigma attatched to it at some point by the community, but like I said above, the CEO of Blizzard even recognized AION as a threat.
So try doing a little research to avoid looking like and uninformed fool.
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Aion is a solid game. It has its faults but for the most part it is enjoyable. I do think a lot of people are expecting too much from the game. I will say that I find it funny all of the overreactions here on the board after only a few hours of open beta gameplay.
I played Aion, and started falling asleep. I don't know what it is, I was really excited about playing the game too. The quests don't really keep me interested, and I felt it was boring. Not trying to flame, I really wish this game was the one for me, I was waiting a year for it. Oh well...
Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
Did you play WoW in open beta? Blizzards open beta for WoW was 10 times worst then this. Try waiting in a hour que to play and once you started playing the servers crashed. So far I think it's been a good start to open beta for Aion.
That was five years ago, are you saying NCsoft should be given the slack we gave blizzard with all the new tech they have that blizzard didnt in '04?
You have to be kidding me.
Blizzard didn't get ANY slack when it happened to them 5 years ago. Basically the same thing thats being said on these boards was being said on the web. AS people tried to point out then i'll say it now...it's BETA.
And No i'm not kidding you.
Beta of an eight month old game? is the server tech that much different in Korea? Is there no way NCsoft could have avoided this disaster?
I normally try not to insult or flame people, but Metalhead, are you stupid? Honestly, are you truly stupid or just trying to troll and get people worked up. Any time you stand up new hardware, there can and will be an issue. It happens. The first 7 hours of open beta, and I am stressing the word beta, there have been several issues. Guess what, it is a large scale stress test. I dont care if it is running in korea, because it is not the same hardware, same network, same pipes. That is why they stress test it, to get the kinks worked out before release. The fact you are claiming failure for issues during BETA shows your lack of knowledge and intelligence or the fact you are just trying to get a reaction like a good lil troll. Which is it?
Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
Did you play WoW in open beta? Blizzards open beta for WoW was 10 times worst then this. Try waiting in a hour que to play and once you started playing the servers crashed. So far I think it's been a good start to open beta for Aion.
That was five years ago, are you saying NCsoft should be given the slack we gave blizzard with all the new tech they have that blizzard didnt in '04?
You have to be kidding me.
Blizzard didn't get ANY slack when it happened to them 5 years ago. Basically the same thing thats being said on these boards was being said on the web. AS people tried to point out then i'll say it now...it's BETA.
And No i'm not kidding you.
i can give slack if the game concept is fair .wich i did i pre-ordered the game lol
before the game was regular game you can have in f2p market rune of magic or even better the chronicle of spellborn
but today gets the palm its not the game its on the server side ,hell no .
server in 2009 are almost auto construct lol
even rune of magic hasnt had problem there
nope i cannot recommend this game i have been saying it for months in here its too expensive
you can get same quality in the chronicle of spellborne
its f2p probably has ingame store
rom will release book 2 this month another great f2p game
ddo f2p will go live soon.as you see its just the one i remember
but im sure if i ask here there are lot of others dont spend or make your parent spend money on a game that
isnt ready yet ,hell im sorry but ., m sure some of your remember some game lunched not long ago that are almost ignored
now.50 $ sleeping on the hardrive
Yes... lets put a Game thats been out for about a year to a game thats been out for 5. Yes. Lets do that.
And What does it matter if its a WoW killer or not? Does a MMO have to "kill" WoW in order for you to play it?
If you want to compare anything. Lets compare f Aion's Closed betas to WoW's... Now thats no contest at all. Aion wins hands down. Why? b/c lag and gameplay in WoW was so horrible during beta that like FE you couldn't even log in to play. WoW still fails with its beta's and even with the finish patch releases. Get 50 wow players together in one area and the world servers crash.
Aion has been out for eight months in korea? right?
When WoW was eight months old it was a much better game than Aion.
Also on day 1 wow had a better combat system and still does. it's like NCsoft has learned nothing.
A pvp game with a worse combat system than a pve focused game like wow? lol
When WoW was eight months old it didn't have to compete with WoW to be the best.
WoW had no contest when it was eight months old so of course it was good. And you Forget. Aion wasn't ment for Westerners. It was ment for Koreans/ Asians. And on that note its very successful. They are just opening it up to the rest of the world to play for other people that like what Aion has to offer. If you don't like it Don't play it. But don't put it up with WoW. It isn't wow yes. Because its not trying to be WoW 2.0. It just used some of the things that wow made successful and added it to a Asian MMO type game.
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If memory serves me right, the first two weeks of WoW was unplayable....so much so,that they gave everyone 2 weeks on to thier account to make up for it.this is only open beta no release like WoW in the first 2 weeks .i wouldnt go bashing this game before you think back to the early days of your awsome game of lag fest:)
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
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Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
If memory serves me right, the first two weeks of WoW was unplayable....so much so,that they gave everyone 2 weeks on to thier account to make up for it.this is only open beta no release like WoW in the first 2 weeks .i wouldnt go bashing this game before you think back to the early days of your awsome game of lag fest:)
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Because it has nothing to do with the game. It is due to the new hardware stood up for the NA/EU release of the game. It is not a software test, it is a hardware/stress test. Honestly, get a damn clue before you run your mouth and make yourself look stupid.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Are you stupid? Seriously? There are other hardware, other peoples who take care of the servers, and many, MANY other things.
And again, if you didn't read my previous post. This is NOT about the game, is about the servers. Anyway, why are u complaining now? Everything is NORMAL now on Aion, it has been fixed like, 4 hours ago? Now gtfo.
EDIT: Servers are back online , so MetalHead I will enjoy Aion, you just...stay here and cry ok?
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Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Because it has nothing to do with the game. It is due to the new hardware stood up for the NA/EU release of the game. It is not a software test, it is a hardware/stress test. Honestly, get a damn clue before you run your mouth and make yourself look stupid.
^^This. Second.
Its the people testing the hardware in NA that are causing the problems. If you haven't noticed. Global games have servers around the world. We don't play on Korean servers. Nor do we play on EU servers... we play on NA servers.
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For PvP players, it will be a "WoW Killer" in many players eyes, but overall it wont kill WoW.
WoW is already stablished and has millions of players linked to it, if for no other reason, because they have ties with so many friends and got close with many guild members.
The people you play with, usually make MMO's fun, more then the actual game.
Even AoC and WAR were fun if you had good people to play with.
For a "niche" pvp crowd sure but that pvp crowd never liked WoW in the first place.
You would be surprised how big Wintergrasp is in WoW nowdays. Many people consider it the best part of the expansion.
Those people would love the combat Aion provides.
Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
Apparently someone didn't play wow when it first launched, let alone in beta. Can you say servers down for 1 week? Can you say item database servers borked for a month?
That is the reason they have an open beta, to get the servers prepared for launch. Nobody has ever done it perfect, but I can tell you this, Aion is 100x more stable than wow was in open beta.
Like Liv presenting WoW-guilds going to Aion during GamesCon?
Fail more.
Aion can't even keep their servers from crashing atm, fail.
Did you play WoW in open beta? Blizzards open beta for WoW was 10 times worst then this. Try waiting in a hour que to play and once you started playing the servers crashed. So far I think it's been a good start to open beta for Aion.
That was five years ago, are you saying NCsoft should be given the slack we gave blizzard with all the new tech they have that blizzard didnt in '04?
You have to be kidding me.
Blizzard didn't get ANY slack when it happened to them 5 years ago. Basically the same thing thats being said on these boards was being said on the web. AS people tried to point out then i'll say it now...it's BETA.
And No i'm not kidding you.
Beta of an eight month old game? is the server tech that much different in Korea? Is there no way NCsoft could have avoided this disaster?
I normally try not to insult or flame people, but Metalhead, are you stupid? Honestly, are you truly stupid or just trying to troll and get people worked up. Any time you stand up new hardware, there can and will be an issue. It happens. The first 7 hours of open beta, and I am stressing the word beta, there have been several issues. Guess what, it is a large scale stress test. I dont care if it is running in korea, because it is not the same hardware, same network, same pipes. That is why they stress test it, to get the kinks worked out before release. The fact you are claiming failure for issues during BETA shows your lack of knowledge and intelligence or the fact you are just trying to get a reaction like a good lil troll. Which is it?
mm .they had months since the first beta not weeks months.lol
server being stressed i wonder how!
at release it will be way worst then today ,i wont count the weeks people works on the weks
but i can say its not their first beta of this game they ve been adding content progressivly to test
but now its not related to the game its on the server side lol.you think they got months to correct this before player move on
i dont believe so!
oh if they find the issue before lunch cool .
one thing is sure guys there are plenty of good f2p avail that are good and are cost free at start
aion is what 40 $,50$ plus monthly
hell you can try a f2p game for good while before you even spent 1 cent on it lol
and if issue arrise like here no biggy it didnt cost 40$
can aion futur buyer say that?
Yes... lets put a Game thats been out for about a year to a game thats been out for 5. Yes. Lets do that.
And What does it matter if its a WoW killer or not? Does a MMO have to "kill" WoW in order for you to play it?
If you want to compare anything. Lets compare f Aion's Closed betas to WoW's... Now thats no contest at all. Aion wins hands down. Why? b/c lag and gameplay in WoW was so horrible during beta that like FE you couldn't even log in to play. WoW still fails with its beta's and even with the finish patch releases. Get 50 wow players together in one area and the world servers crash.
Aion has been out for eight months in korea? right?
When WoW was eight months old it was a much better game than Aion.
Also on day 1 wow had a better combat system and still does. it's like NCsoft has learned nothing.
A pvp game with a worse combat system than a pve focused game like wow? lol
I completely disagree with this.
WoW at that time only had one finished raid, very little PvE content, and was JUST finishing up their honor system.
Not sure what your complaints about the combat system are, its very similar to WoW, with an added Combo system, movement buffs, and flight.
I question if you even leveled over level 5 in Aion.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Yeah, I'm going to have to be with LodenDSG on this one. Besides the 'expected' maintenance as they continually tweak with new updates, AS THEY TOLD YOU THEY WOULD DURING OPEN BETA, its been smooth sailing.
What 'issues' are you complaining about, or are you just looking for something to complain about?
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I am guessing that. Some people just love to complain.
They can adjust a game all day, but they can't help the issue between the keyboard and the chair.
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I have to say, while some ideas behind it looks good, the graphics and engine looks like something from 1991. It looks REALLY bad. Not for me. 10 times rather play Aion." Sorry I ment to do a quote.
Wolfenstine 3d was released in 92?
Heh I love it when people make things out to be way worse than they actually are.
Beta of an eight month old game? is the server tech that much different in Korea? Is there no way NCsoft could have avoided this disaster?
I'm sorry you don't really understand what is going on with this open beta. Much like ANY open beta, the compression on data streams isn't there. They are trying to test their hardware to its max potential to see what is even possible and if they would have to cap a server's capacity.
I was there during Blizzards launch of World of Warcraft and I have to say, it's absolutely no different now than it was then. Sure, the code on Aion is about 2 years in and is relatively bug free, but the servers are NEW and need tested.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Yeah, I'm going to have to be with LodenDSG on this one. Besides the 'expected' maintenance as they continually tweak with new updates, AS THEY TOLD YOU THEY WOULD DURING OPEN BETA, its been smooth sailing.
What 'issues' are you complaining about, or are you just looking for something to complain about?
stop reading this post ,tread are poping up all over this site AND probably others too lol
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Yeah, I'm going to have to be with LodenDSG on this one. Besides the 'expected' maintenance as they continually tweak with new updates, AS THEY TOLD YOU THEY WOULD DURING OPEN BETA, its been smooth sailing.
What 'issues' are you complaining about, or are you just looking for something to complain about?
The only issue they are legitimately having right now are some routing issues, which are NOT their fault, but have been pinpointed to Limelight Networks, and Level3's servers. I put up a poll on the official forums and over 90% of the players having routing issues are having problems with these two ISP's.
There is also a workaround which I have posted in the official forums, and linked on here as well, to provide assistance for those with the problems mentioned.
Level3 is notorious for this type of thing - I had issues with them in the past on both WoW and on Asherons Call when I lived in NY. Even once they have reports, it took them weeks to fix it. Hopefully LLNW will be faster to respond, but doubtful.
But to blame either of these problems on NCSoft would be unfair, as all they could do is report the problem to the ISPs in question.
Any game you buy will cost $. Although I agree that MMO's that charge monthy Subscriptions shouldn't shouldn't charge $40 for the game itself but when you think about it they do give you 1-2 months free playing time so you really are only paying ~$25 for a game which isn't bad all things considering. They need to make a little money in case you play the game and don't like it. We dish out close to $80 now for PS3/360 games (Modern Warefare 2 is gunna cost more) and we don't complain even close to as much as we do about MMO's.
You know what the difference between a free MMO and a paid MMO is? The paid MMO keeps you playing for years and the free one keeps you occupied for a month at most. I've tried almost every free mmo in hopes of finding something to kill some time while I wait for Jumpgate/Aion/Global Agenda/The Secret World and Earthrise but none of those free games kept me entertained for more than a couple of minutes.
So yeah... free mmos... gtfo IMO.
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This is pretty much my stance on this as well. I've played tons and tons of f2p's. Only few kept me playing for more than a week at max, and if, then just because I played with buddies and there was nothing else to do... p2p's are the way to go.
f2p = have fun when people with lots of irl $ come around and kick your butt with their cash shop items.
Just answer the question.
Why is an eight month old game having issues like its never been released before?
Yeah, I'm going to have to be with LodenDSG on this one. Besides the 'expected' maintenance as they continually tweak with new updates, AS THEY TOLD YOU THEY WOULD DURING OPEN BETA, its been smooth sailing.
What 'issues' are you complaining about, or are you just looking for something to complain about?
The only issue they are legitimately having right now are some routing issues, which are NOT their fault, but have been pinpointed to Limelight Networks, and Level3's servers. I put up a poll on the official forums and over 90% of the players having routing issues are having problems with these two ISP's.
There is also a workaround which I have posted in the official forums, and linked on here as well, to provide assistance for those with the problems mentioned.
Level3 is notorious for this type of thing - I had issues with them in the past on both WoW and on Asherons Call when I lived in NY. Even once they have reports, it took them weeks to fix it. Hopefully LLNW will be faster to respond, but doubtful.
But to blame either of these problems on NCSoft would be unfair, as all they could do is report the problem to the ISPs in question.
men you were right after trying the link you posted elsewhere i tested like you write and bam leve3 blocked me in baltimore
did like you said posted the result just in case ncsoft find a bouncer to go move lvl3 emotional chip a bit on the good side
still suck cant play like that and i wont use the work around lol i already pay my provider to get good connection
i guess no aion for me and if your right 90% of the other who has problem
THAT REMOVE LOT OF FUTUR CUSTOMER FROM AION
ty for the help dude ,im still frustrated about this .i would understand if it was in africa ,baton rouge
but hell not baltimore ,gess president has been saying he want usa connected and cant connect in his backyard (baltimore )kind of funny
Comments like this always make me laugh. What ignorance.
First of all, THE CEO OF BLIZZARD HIM SELF HAS EVEN SAID AION WAS A THREAT
Even more, NCSOFT even said they never meant this game to be a "WoW Killer"
Anyway, the term "WoW Killer" itself is idiotic and anyone who uses it seriously, is a moron.
No game will ever "Kill" WoW because what people mean by that is a game taking the number one spot in SUBSCRIBERS, not actually being a better game.
There are quite a few MMO's that are much, much better than WoW in every way, to me and to the majority of people in the MMO world. (These are all opinions, or do you not realize that?)
So yes, you're right when you say it's not even a contest. AION is LEAPS AND BOUNDS above WoW. It's better than WoW in almost every way. Perfect? Not even close, but it's the most fun i've had playing an MMO in many years, and completely blows WoW out of the water when it comes to all the things I look for in an MMO. Even more, this is after the 5 years WoW has had to add content, better the game, and release two expansions.
I wish the ignorance would stop and people would quit saying "WoW Killer" because no game will ever appeal to the masses like WoW did or be able to advertise like WoW did and does.
However there are PLENTY of MMO's that are already out, and plenty coming out that are better than WoW so in that sense, WoW has already been beaten many times over. It just depends on who you ask.
I don't care what games you like or what games you dislike, it's irrelevent to me. Everyone has an opinion and yours is no more valid than the retard down the street.
You bitch about AION claiming to be a WoW killer, when almost every new MMO that has come out since WoW has had the same stigma attatched to it at some point by the community, but like I said above, the CEO of Blizzard even recognized AION as a threat.
So try doing a little research to avoid looking like and uninformed fool.
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