i checked that file with norton and its not a virus . even ad aware doesnt see anything wrong with it
Sure...it's not a virus. It's a rootkit. Most anti-virus software throws up a red flag at that. AION is using the same GameGuard crap that MOST Korean games use, and many computers don't LIKE GameGuard. Frankly...I don't like it either...forget my computer.
I think part of the confusion of newer gamers is the confusion between the terms "Open Beta" and "Free Trial." Personally...I won't pay for a game I haven't tried out in a free trial anymore...too many bad experiences. But I guess I'm "old school," because anything with the word "beta" in it, to me, meant you were helping iron out the bugs, and while I never expected to be PAID for doing so....I also never thought I'd see the day you have to PAY (even 5 bucks) to help a company test their game.
So...while I don't entirely understand some of the very very EARLY complaints here about AION, I also understand the lack of any desire to PAY to test a game. Myself....I'll wait for a 3 day trial, or whatever they're willing to offer later. If they don't offer any free trial so that I can decide if I'm willing to spend my money on the game, then...well...I won't play it. No big deal. But I really think it's pretty early to be making rash judgments on a game that isn't released. Time to make judgment calls really...is after the game has been OUT for about 6 months....then you have a little bit better idea of how the gameplay is AND....of how good the company is at resolving problems for their customers, etc.
OP, if you are looking for a p2p game and dont want to pay to try it,then look on the game list. Most of the p2p games there have healthy populations, and Free trials for x days or x levels.
Oh boy you people are very Defensive. I am not on the offensive...again it was my experience that was a fiasco, as I stated in the letter. And, those were the facts of MY experience. If Aion or NCsoft or whomever wants only to appeal to pro gamers fine, maybe they dont want new markets or more customers I don't know. It could have been made a bit clearer in regards to the required key for those of us that have not done this type of "Open Beta". In addition, if it had been a harmful virus everyone would have been made aware, and better safe than sorry. I know one thing if I was a pro, mighty gamer, I would be helpful to others and remember that everyone is noob at one time or another and that arrogance is not earned or deserved or called for.
And the slamming bashing, cussing, name calling response I got here from some is far worse than my letter regarding my experience. Apparently that is more tollerable to the Professional gamers.
I have to agree in a lot of what you are saying rubivi.
It is wrong for them to be selling beta keys, after all it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. We supply NCSoft with the lemmings to stress test the game for them, they supply us with a chance to try before we buy.
NCoft/Funcom etc: are not interested in what is fair or what is right, they just want your money. It makes me laugh when you see people actually declaring loyalty to these company's who would have your Granny killed if the price was right.
Downloading the client is painfully slow unless you can find the torrent file which is much faster.
Anything that puts rootkits/viruses on your computer is bad and can cause the user many a headache, what your seeing is the dreaded Game Guard. It really needs replacing.
I hope all this rubbish doesn't put you off playing.
No where in open beta does it say it have to give out free trial or demos to the public, also it was not a requirement for it to be free.
All it had to do was give methods of access to the public, which was the key.
Money is tight, but I am sorry, there are people who are starving in the world that does not care about how bad us Americans have it.
The screenshot OP used was also one of the best example about being ignorant about computer softwares:
#1 Anti-virus and Gameguard have been known to cause conflict, especially if someone does not patch Gameguard.
#2 Anti-virus and Gameguard tries to overwrite each other when conflict occurs because anti-virus softwares exclude Gameguard from the detection list. Which AV detect GG as a threat or virus, and GG detects AV as a hack program. In fact neither of them are a threat to the system or the game.
#3 GameMon.des was the file that can solve some of the Aion GG error by delete and GG will repatch itself. Which means it might have been related to the error of server patching to 1.5.0.3 Basically that file is important when it comes to making AV and GG not cause conflict, but it is having error, which is why AV detected it as virus when it is really not.
#4 Ever heard of Anti-Virus false-positives? This is not even considered #1 and #2
#5 Scare tactic? I mean it is good try for people who doesn't know much about computer softwares, but yeah, fail.
#6 You know, not that hard to make Gameguard to be detected as a virus, there are actually several ways to do it.
(See #1 and #2, and there are the clues of how to make GG be detected as virus)
Well, I didn't have to pay for my beta key. If you look really hard and talk to the right people, you can get your key within a few hours. Just saying.
Rubivi, I completely agree with you. There was a thread about this the other day, but it was deleted by the mods. You're not alone in feeling that this was a terrible "open beta" experience. I went to the official site, clicked on the "Play in Open Beta!" graphic and downloaded the client through one of the three methods mentioned on the official site. Nowhere does the official site state that you need to have either a pre-order or fileplanet subsriber status to play the "open beta."
The only thing worse than the terrible "open beta" situation is the treatment you get on this forum while trying to air a legitimate complaint.
Veteran MMOers know without being told that they need an activation code for either open betas or free trials. In fact, the activation code is usually the bigger problem, as the client can be downloaded from various sources.
Unfortunately, new to the gender people are not as well informed. Thus I can see how giving only a link to the beta files without giving any additional information regarding the account and activation procedure can be misleading.
Veteran MMOers know without being told that they need an activation code for either open betas or free trials. In fact, the activation code is usually the bigger problem, as the client can be downloaded from various sources. Unfortunately, new to the gender people are not as well informed. Thus I can see how giving only a link to the beta files without giving any additional information regarding the account and activation procedure can be misleading.
EXACTLY!
Amazing how the youth who grew up in the information age seem to be the ones without the information. Maybe if we make them walk up hill, both ways, in the snow!!
Been in enough CB and OB to know what to expect and how much to prepare, it never occured to me that people wouldn't, and then complain about it afterwards. Its as if everyone expects to be spoon fed on every detail, and now, definately has be be RIGHT NOW, or so help me you'll hear about it!!!
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
i checked that file with norton and its not a virus . even ad aware doesnt see anything wrong with it
Sure...it's not a virus. It's a rootkit. Most anti-virus software throws up a red flag at that. AION is using the same GameGuard crap that MOST Korean games use, and many computers don't LIKE GameGuard. Frankly...I don't like it either...forget my computer.
I think part of the confusion of newer gamers is the confusion between the terms "Open Beta" and "Free Trial." Personally...I won't pay for a game I haven't tried out in a free trial anymore...too many bad experiences. But I guess I'm "old school," because anything with the word "beta" in it, to me, meant you were helping iron out the bugs, and while I never expected to be PAID for doing so....I also never thought I'd see the day you have to PAY (even 5 bucks) to help a company test their game.
So...while I don't entirely understand some of the very very EARLY complaints here about AION, I also understand the lack of any desire to PAY to test a game. Myself....I'll wait for a 3 day trial, or whatever they're willing to offer later. If they don't offer any free trial so that I can decide if I'm willing to spend my money on the game, then...well...I won't play it. No big deal. But I really think it's pretty early to be making rash judgments on a game that isn't released. Time to make judgment calls really...is after the game has been OUT for about 6 months....then you have a little bit better idea of how the gameplay is AND....of how good the company is at resolving problems for their customers, etc.
For the n-th time, it is not a rootkit.
However, the rest of your opinions and thoughts were fair and interesting to read.
It shouldn't surprise me how much fail the world is filled with, and I'm not. It's just saddening really. If people didn't understand the meaning of the first two words "Open Beta" then I have no explanation for how they couldn't comprehend the third and final word which is "Test".
Note to the OP: AVG is weak virus protection software.
"IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."
everyhting working fine in my end ingame. if the first day was lag lag etc. you could go and pick some cookies while wait until they got it under control , i mean theres still plenty of time to play to make your judgement. people are too hasty always.
anyway, for the beta key without pre order already in hand i dont have any experience how that worked.
I have only been gamming for a year, so my experience was a new one to me.
You just proved that you don't know enough about the MMO gaming scene to be calling this a "Beta Fiasco"
This is how beta's work, open betas got no NDA, they don't have AS RESTRICTIVE of time limits, the amount of people allowed in is significantly larger, but the flood gates are not opened to every Mark, Rick, and Steve who want to play.
Sorry for your bad experience but if you want to play a finished game, wait till the release. before the flamers even start, Its not a finished game in NA, till the servers are correctly configured, yes the coding is done, the hardware isn't.
Honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. An open beta is just that, open to the public aka the masses. Open beta's also used to be free, only when funcom came around with AoC did they start charging for beta and that was because knew that they had a shitty game post tortage and so, they limited it to tortage.Meanwhile every other company saw that we were willing to pay for beta, so now they all charge. End of story.
I have only been gamming for a year, so my experience was a new one to me.
You just proved that you don't know enough about the MMO gaming scene to be calling this a "Beta Fiasco"
This is how beta's work, open betas got no NDA, they don't have AS RESTRICTIVE of time limits, the amount of people allowed in is significantly larger, but the flood gates are not opened to every Mark, Rick, and Steve who want to play.
Sorry for your bad experience but if you want to play a finished game, wait till the release. before the flamers even start, Its not a finished game in NA, till the servers are correctly configured, yes the coding is done, the hardware isn't.
Honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. An open beta is just that, open to the public aka the masses. Open beta's also used to be free, only when funcom came around with AoC did they start charging for beta and that was because knew that they had a shitty game post tortage and so, they limited it to tortage.Meanwhile every other company saw that we were willing to pay for beta, so now they all charge. End of story.
Oh really? And how exactly did you get into the Guild Wars BETA Events? I could be wrong here, but I'm thinking the year 2005 may have happened some time before the year 2008, but I could be wrong.
Here, let me give you a quote to help...
"Beta Weekend Events were events that took place once a month to let players experience the game before official release, in 2005.
People who wanted to play had to obtain a key from someone who pre-ordered the game or get an access key from a number of fansites."
Sound familiar???
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I have only been gamming for a year, so my experience was a new one to me.
You just proved that you don't know enough about the MMO gaming scene to be calling this a "Beta Fiasco"
This is how beta's work, open betas got no NDA, they don't have AS RESTRICTIVE of time limits, the amount of people allowed in is significantly larger, but the flood gates are not opened to every Mark, Rick, and Steve who want to play.
Sorry for your bad experience but if you want to play a finished game, wait till the release. before the flamers even start, Its not a finished game in NA, till the servers are correctly configured, yes the coding is done, the hardware isn't.
Honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. An open beta is just that, open to the public aka the masses. Open beta's also used to be free, only when funcom came around with AoC did they start charging for beta and that was because knew that they had a shitty game post tortage and so, they limited it to tortage.Meanwhile every other company saw that we were willing to pay for beta, so now they all charge. End of story.
I think your the one who doesnt have a clue TBH.
WOW released through FP and surprise surprise had a key requirement for OB, Vanguard did the same as did AOC as now has Aion even SWG and EQ2 had a key requirement Open Beta.
Section 8, TF2, COD4 and COD5 to name a few FPS's have also OB'd there product's on a key basis.
So this method of OB is not exclusive to the MMO genre and is wideley accepted in gaming period.
The only Open Beta in the sense that anyone can download and play you find these days are titles without the marketing and hype of triple A's
So basically every AAA MMO in the last 6 years has used this method
So this wlll all be fixed? I'm new to betas but I've been gaming for a few years. I'm not mad at the game or freaking out. If the answer is I need to wait more I'm fine with that. Champions sounded like it was crap though and wont even let my friend log in. Hopefully Aion wont turn into that. I mean with Champions having all those issues it seems many people turned to Aion and are acting like the beta is what the game will be like. But NCsoft isn't just going to ignore the fact that GG is just kicking ppl off right?
They need more and more and more money. Hope they'll choke by it. Incredible mean. Shame NCsoft
Eh, don't worry about it, test servers are laggin' too bad to play ^^
No the servers are quite fine, maybe at your isp or someway along the route to the servers there are a hickup I'm connecting from sweden (isp: BBB) and I got about 100-150ms at primetime and a spike per hour or so. Think that's far from unplayable and quite ok for being an open beta.
Compared to MANY other MMO's I've been hauled through during the years I actually rate Aion's open beta (and the closed ones too) very successful. Even though I counted around 100-150 people right on top of me in the start area there wasn't even the slightest hiccup from the server and no lag whatsoever. Now that's expected from the nice "alpha test" :P the Asians have made of course, but there's a lot non-trivial tasks involved getting it up and running over here as well.
True that there were half an hour or so where we couldn't log on, but all considered, that's as successful as betas get. I would've been satisfied (albeit not happy) if that was release as well tbh.
There is a very simple reason why the servers were clear and there were no hickups.
THEY GAVE NEXT TO NO KEYS AWAY OUTSIDE OF THE U.S.
They didnt have enough money to get good servers for the EU, so they strangled the number of keys for europe. That meant that only the hard core who were seriously on the ball, or the very lucky who just happened to be in the right place at the right time, got a key.
In light of that fact I won't be playing.. Release day is going to be utterly laggy. I'll hang on for a while, see if it's any good from reviews, and then chuckle that i saved almost £100 when it's realised it's terrible after 6 months.
Also, may i say Aion team, you may not have had many keys to give out to the EU, for whatever reason that may be... (possibly for similar reason the US get a few days early release.. can anyone say Halo 2?).. But could you have at least stated that CLEARLY?
You know, warn people of the situation ahead of time, and when it's closed to some regions.. POST THAT FACT CLEARLY ON THE SITE!
I feel I have had hopes smashed on no less than 3 occasions because of your terrible communications.
Lesson learned, and maybe when you release an expansion, and you try to put some life into this game (for it will need it soon after release i expect) try and be a lot more concious of THE REST OF THE WORLD, not just uncle sam eh?
Interesting speculation. Got any data to back your claims?
Because from the look of the server list (aionstatus.com/), it seems that EU has more servers than US. Why reserve more servers for the EU if you're going to give less keys?
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Sure...it's not a virus. It's a rootkit. Most anti-virus software throws up a red flag at that. AION is using the same GameGuard crap that MOST Korean games use, and many computers don't LIKE GameGuard. Frankly...I don't like it either...forget my computer.
I think part of the confusion of newer gamers is the confusion between the terms "Open Beta" and "Free Trial." Personally...I won't pay for a game I haven't tried out in a free trial anymore...too many bad experiences. But I guess I'm "old school," because anything with the word "beta" in it, to me, meant you were helping iron out the bugs, and while I never expected to be PAID for doing so....I also never thought I'd see the day you have to PAY (even 5 bucks) to help a company test their game.
So...while I don't entirely understand some of the very very EARLY complaints here about AION, I also understand the lack of any desire to PAY to test a game. Myself....I'll wait for a 3 day trial, or whatever they're willing to offer later. If they don't offer any free trial so that I can decide if I'm willing to spend my money on the game, then...well...I won't play it. No big deal. But I really think it's pretty early to be making rash judgments on a game that isn't released. Time to make judgment calls really...is after the game has been OUT for about 6 months....then you have a little bit better idea of how the gameplay is AND....of how good the company is at resolving problems for their customers, etc.
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
OP, if you are looking for a p2p game and dont want to pay to try it,then look on the game list. Most of the p2p games there have healthy populations, and Free trials for x days or x levels.
Good luck on your quest to find one you like.
C
These things are true plus...
And the Moron holding the sign looks very moronic.
Oh boy you people are very Defensive. I am not on the offensive...again it was my experience that was a fiasco, as I stated in the letter. And, those were the facts of MY experience. If Aion or NCsoft or whomever wants only to appeal to pro gamers fine, maybe they dont want new markets or more customers I don't know. It could have been made a bit clearer in regards to the required key for those of us that have not done this type of "Open Beta". In addition, if it had been a harmful virus everyone would have been made aware, and better safe than sorry. I know one thing if I was a pro, mighty gamer, I would be helpful to others and remember that everyone is noob at one time or another and that arrogance is not earned or deserved or called for.
And the slamming bashing, cussing, name calling response I got here from some is far worse than my letter regarding my experience. Apparently that is more tollerable to the Professional gamers.
Have fun and once again KARMA
Sugar
I have to agree in a lot of what you are saying rubivi.
It is wrong for them to be selling beta keys, after all it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. We supply NCSoft with the lemmings to stress test the game for them, they supply us with a chance to try before we buy.
NCoft/Funcom etc: are not interested in what is fair or what is right, they just want your money. It makes me laugh when you see people actually declaring loyalty to these company's who would have your Granny killed if the price was right.
Downloading the client is painfully slow unless you can find the torrent file which is much faster.
Anything that puts rootkits/viruses on your computer is bad and can cause the user many a headache, what your seeing is the dreaded Game Guard. It really needs replacing.
I hope all this rubbish doesn't put you off playing.
Alot of wrong informations here.
No where in open beta does it say it have to give out free trial or demos to the public, also it was not a requirement for it to be free.
All it had to do was give methods of access to the public, which was the key.
Money is tight, but I am sorry, there are people who are starving in the world that does not care about how bad us Americans have it.
The screenshot OP used was also one of the best example about being ignorant about computer softwares:
#1 Anti-virus and Gameguard have been known to cause conflict, especially if someone does not patch Gameguard.
#2 Anti-virus and Gameguard tries to overwrite each other when conflict occurs because anti-virus softwares exclude Gameguard from the detection list. Which AV detect GG as a threat or virus, and GG detects AV as a hack program. In fact neither of them are a threat to the system or the game.
#3 GameMon.des was the file that can solve some of the Aion GG error by delete and GG will repatch itself. Which means it might have been related to the error of server patching to 1.5.0.3 Basically that file is important when it comes to making AV and GG not cause conflict, but it is having error, which is why AV detected it as virus when it is really not.
#4 Ever heard of Anti-Virus false-positives? This is not even considered #1 and #2
#5 Scare tactic? I mean it is good try for people who doesn't know much about computer softwares, but yeah, fail.
#6 You know, not that hard to make Gameguard to be detected as a virus, there are actually several ways to do it.
(See #1 and #2, and there are the clues of how to make GG be detected as virus)
I enjoyed this thread. It had hopes, dreams, crying, laughter and PMS.
But yea Aion's "Open Beta" is a bunch of bullshit, since It should of been trully open to everyone...thats how it was done in the old days
Original Poster, check your PMs
Well, I didn't have to pay for my beta key. If you look really hard and talk to the right people, you can get your key within a few hours. Just saying.
Peace
Rubivi, I completely agree with you. There was a thread about this the other day, but it was deleted by the mods. You're not alone in feeling that this was a terrible "open beta" experience. I went to the official site, clicked on the "Play in Open Beta!" graphic and downloaded the client through one of the three methods mentioned on the official site. Nowhere does the official site state that you need to have either a pre-order or fileplanet subsriber status to play the "open beta."
The only thing worse than the terrible "open beta" situation is the treatment you get on this forum while trying to air a legitimate complaint.
Veteran MMOers know without being told that they need an activation code for either open betas or free trials. In fact, the activation code is usually the bigger problem, as the client can be downloaded from various sources.
Unfortunately, new to the gender people are not as well informed. Thus I can see how giving only a link to the beta files without giving any additional information regarding the account and activation procedure can be misleading.
The point is you used AVG, everyone knows AVG is epic failure, besides that..
It's a conspircay >.>
EXACTLY!
Amazing how the youth who grew up in the information age seem to be the ones without the information. Maybe if we make them walk up hill, both ways, in the snow!!
Been in enough CB and OB to know what to expect and how much to prepare, it never occured to me that people wouldn't, and then complain about it afterwards. Its as if everyone expects to be spoon fed on every detail, and now, definately has be be RIGHT NOW, or so help me you'll hear about it!!!
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Sure...it's not a virus. It's a rootkit. Most anti-virus software throws up a red flag at that. AION is using the same GameGuard crap that MOST Korean games use, and many computers don't LIKE GameGuard. Frankly...I don't like it either...forget my computer.
I think part of the confusion of newer gamers is the confusion between the terms "Open Beta" and "Free Trial." Personally...I won't pay for a game I haven't tried out in a free trial anymore...too many bad experiences. But I guess I'm "old school," because anything with the word "beta" in it, to me, meant you were helping iron out the bugs, and while I never expected to be PAID for doing so....I also never thought I'd see the day you have to PAY (even 5 bucks) to help a company test their game.
So...while I don't entirely understand some of the very very EARLY complaints here about AION, I also understand the lack of any desire to PAY to test a game. Myself....I'll wait for a 3 day trial, or whatever they're willing to offer later. If they don't offer any free trial so that I can decide if I'm willing to spend my money on the game, then...well...I won't play it. No big deal. But I really think it's pretty early to be making rash judgments on a game that isn't released. Time to make judgment calls really...is after the game has been OUT for about 6 months....then you have a little bit better idea of how the gameplay is AND....of how good the company is at resolving problems for their customers, etc.
For the n-th time, it is not a rootkit.
However, the rest of your opinions and thoughts were fair and interesting to read.
It shouldn't surprise me how much fail the world is filled with, and I'm not. It's just saddening really. If people didn't understand the meaning of the first two words "Open Beta" then I have no explanation for how they couldn't comprehend the third and final word which is "Test".
Note to the OP: AVG is weak virus protection software.
"IRL is a pretty upstanding MMO with thousands of classes, a lot of PvP and even some pretty unique emotes and titles you can acquire. Explore that world first, then we'll talk about this virtual one."
everyhting working fine in my end ingame. if the first day was lag lag etc. you could go and pick some cookies while wait until they got it under control , i mean theres still plenty of time to play to make your judgement. people are too hasty always.
anyway, for the beta key without pre order already in hand i dont have any experience how that worked.
cheers
You just proved that you don't know enough about the MMO gaming scene to be calling this a "Beta Fiasco"
This is how beta's work, open betas got no NDA, they don't have AS RESTRICTIVE of time limits, the amount of people allowed in is significantly larger, but the flood gates are not opened to every Mark, Rick, and Steve who want to play.
Sorry for your bad experience but if you want to play a finished game, wait till the release. before the flamers even start, Its not a finished game in NA, till the servers are correctly configured, yes the coding is done, the hardware isn't.
Honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. An open beta is just that, open to the public aka the masses. Open beta's also used to be free, only when funcom came around with AoC did they start charging for beta and that was because knew that they had a shitty game post tortage and so, they limited it to tortage.Meanwhile every other company saw that we were willing to pay for beta, so now they all charge. End of story.
You just proved that you don't know enough about the MMO gaming scene to be calling this a "Beta Fiasco"
This is how beta's work, open betas got no NDA, they don't have AS RESTRICTIVE of time limits, the amount of people allowed in is significantly larger, but the flood gates are not opened to every Mark, Rick, and Steve who want to play.
Sorry for your bad experience but if you want to play a finished game, wait till the release. before the flamers even start, Its not a finished game in NA, till the servers are correctly configured, yes the coding is done, the hardware isn't.
Honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. An open beta is just that, open to the public aka the masses. Open beta's also used to be free, only when funcom came around with AoC did they start charging for beta and that was because knew that they had a shitty game post tortage and so, they limited it to tortage.Meanwhile every other company saw that we were willing to pay for beta, so now they all charge. End of story.
Oh really? And how exactly did you get into the Guild Wars BETA Events? I could be wrong here, but I'm thinking the year 2005 may have happened some time before the year 2008, but I could be wrong.
Here, let me give you a quote to help...
"Beta Weekend Events were events that took place once a month to let players experience the game before official release, in 2005.
People who wanted to play had to obtain a key from someone who pre-ordered the game or get an access key from a number of fansites."
Sound familiar???
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
You just proved that you don't know enough about the MMO gaming scene to be calling this a "Beta Fiasco"
This is how beta's work, open betas got no NDA, they don't have AS RESTRICTIVE of time limits, the amount of people allowed in is significantly larger, but the flood gates are not opened to every Mark, Rick, and Steve who want to play.
Sorry for your bad experience but if you want to play a finished game, wait till the release. before the flamers even start, Its not a finished game in NA, till the servers are correctly configured, yes the coding is done, the hardware isn't.
Honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. An open beta is just that, open to the public aka the masses. Open beta's also used to be free, only when funcom came around with AoC did they start charging for beta and that was because knew that they had a shitty game post tortage and so, they limited it to tortage.Meanwhile every other company saw that we were willing to pay for beta, so now they all charge. End of story.
I think your the one who doesnt have a clue TBH.
WOW released through FP and surprise surprise had a key requirement for OB, Vanguard did the same as did AOC as now has Aion even SWG and EQ2 had a key requirement Open Beta.
Section 8, TF2, COD4 and COD5 to name a few FPS's have also OB'd there product's on a key basis.
So this method of OB is not exclusive to the MMO genre and is wideley accepted in gaming period.
The only Open Beta in the sense that anyone can download and play you find these days are titles without the marketing and hype of triple A's
So basically every AAA MMO in the last 6 years has used this method
So this wlll all be fixed? I'm new to betas but I've been gaming for a few years. I'm not mad at the game or freaking out. If the answer is I need to wait more I'm fine with that. Champions sounded like it was crap though and wont even let my friend log in. Hopefully Aion wont turn into that. I mean with Champions having all those issues it seems many people turned to Aion and are acting like the beta is what the game will be like. But NCsoft isn't just going to ignore the fact that GG is just kicking ppl off right?
Eh, don't worry about it, test servers are laggin' too bad to play ^^
No the servers are quite fine, maybe at your isp or someway along the route to the servers there are a hickup
I'm connecting from sweden (isp: BBB) and I got about 100-150ms at primetime and a spike per hour or so. Think that's far from unplayable and quite ok for being an open beta.
Compared to MANY other MMO's I've been hauled through during the years I actually rate Aion's open beta (and the closed ones too) very successful. Even though I counted around 100-150 people right on top of me in the start area there wasn't even the slightest hiccup from the server and no lag whatsoever. Now that's expected from the nice "alpha test" :P the Asians have made of course, but there's a lot non-trivial tasks involved getting it up and running over here as well.
True that there were half an hour or so where we couldn't log on, but all considered, that's as successful as betas get. I would've been satisfied (albeit not happy) if that was release as well tbh.
There is a very simple reason why the servers were clear and there were no hickups.
THEY GAVE NEXT TO NO KEYS AWAY OUTSIDE OF THE U.S.
They didnt have enough money to get good servers for the EU, so they strangled the number of keys for europe. That meant that only the hard core who were seriously on the ball, or the very lucky who just happened to be in the right place at the right time, got a key.
In light of that fact I won't be playing.. Release day is going to be utterly laggy. I'll hang on for a while, see if it's any good from reviews, and then chuckle that i saved almost £100 when it's realised it's terrible after 6 months.
Also, may i say Aion team, you may not have had many keys to give out to the EU, for whatever reason that may be... (possibly for similar reason the US get a few days early release.. can anyone say Halo 2?).. But could you have at least stated that CLEARLY?
You know, warn people of the situation ahead of time, and when it's closed to some regions.. POST THAT FACT CLEARLY ON THE SITE!
I feel I have had hopes smashed on no less than 3 occasions because of your terrible communications.
Lesson learned, and maybe when you release an expansion, and you try to put some life into this game (for it will need it soon after release i expect) try and be a lot more concious of THE REST OF THE WORLD, not just uncle sam eh?
Interesting speculation. Got any data to back your claims?
Because from the look of the server list (aionstatus.com/), it seems that EU has more servers than US. Why reserve more servers for the EU if you're going to give less keys?