Originally posted by xplororor Oh no, quoting the Bible. I hope there'll be no more Bible thumping or else I'll have to start quoting the parts of the Bible that every single priest, rabbi, clergy, etc... on purpose run away from, and refuse to look at. Let's just say... there is far, far, more to the Bible than is commonly known by the public.
This isn't a religious debate...There was a point to be made by those scriptures I quoted. If you failed to see the relativity of it...You may need to sharpen those comprehension skills of yours.
Death is not to fear; for it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Originally posted by Krimson Ladies and Gentelman, every year the United States of America spends billions of dollars on foreign aid programs, attempting to help third world countries that are torn apart by civil war, famine, and disease get up on thier feet. *Sigh* Where to I start? See, many of those civil wars, famines, and disease, are initiated, started up on purpose - by the United States of America.
First, post your sources that say "these people" in SIri Lanka have 11 children avarage. Post your sources that their houses are no bigger than a small bathroom. (A small bathroom is 7 feet tall, with a floorspace of 6 feet x 6 feet.) It is impossible to fit 2 parents, and 11 children into a "small bathroom". The facts please.
Next, there is a saying "Either do a job right, or do not do it at all". You are attempting to delve into world politics. If you really are going to do this, then go all the way.
- No effort at all has been made by anyone to improve the sitiuation. Everytime these "third world" countries do try improving theirselves, the USA, CIA, America, all come in and destabilize things. The World Bank, the UN, all are ultimatly under control of high ranking Illumaniti like guys like Soros
Who regularly raid, and destablilze countries all the time.
- The Catholic Church is one of the worse instigators of world destabilization in the history of the world. You have a long of world history homework to do.
- The USA is being destabilized on purpose by its own goverment, buisness leaders, politicians, officials, and moneymen.
BTW, America (and the world), has never ever been run by goverments, or politicians. There has never ever been such a thing as conservative, liberal, republican, or democrat. America (and the rest of the world) has always been run by elite, clandestine, secret societies. There has never ever never been such a thing as Democracy. Or a Democratic goverment in America, or in any country in the world:
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Ultimatly the only thing you, me, and other "middle class, working people" can do is this:
1. Do not let nothing get to you. Aka stop allowing yourself to panic, become agitated, ranting and raving. Losing control, name calling, etc...
2. Research, research, aka educate yourself. Make an effort to go down to your local bookstore and either buy, or browse, or read right there, the tons of books released about why the world is the way it is. Why things happen. On subjects such as the HSA, CIA, FBI, the homosexual known as J. Edgar Hoover who had more power than the President of the USA, Freemasons, Skull and Bones Society, Script and Scroll Society, Thule Society, Freemasons, Khazaar Jews, Hellfire Club, and the two biggies - The New World Illumanatti, and Old World Illumanatti.
3. Whatever your immediate goals are - do them! No matter what it is - learning to play the violin, how to ride a motorcycle, buying a 1968 Ford Mustang, traveling to Hawaii, seeing your mother/father/sibling/friend who you haven't seen in years, opening an Ice Cream shop, making your own MMORPG , etc... etc... etc....
4. Whatever is in your power to do - do it! Passing along all this info to others you know. Helping out an elderly stranger. Taking devoted intrest in your kids. Making sure to put off having kids if you are under 25. Making sure to graduate High School at minimum, And College if you decide on it.
5. Accept all consequences for your actions and life that you live. This makes it easier to change whatever is negative about your life and/or situation.
Messed up things will keep on happening in America, and the rest of the world. Things will get even more messed up in the future. Nothing can be done about it. So it is useless to get worked up over it. Just live life now, go after all your goals and dreams right now.
Man, xplororor, you need to lay off the juice man or stop staying up all night watching X-Files. I'm joking, and you do make some good points if a little out there. Most civil wars, disease, famines initiated by the US. Are you kidding me! I'm sorry but that is not even close to being true, no matter how many conspiracy theorist you listen to or read books by. While the US has made so many bad errors in judgement when it comes to foreign politics, some of which have been selfish, that have come back to bite us in the rear that we don't have an arse now, the US by no means is going around trying to create civil war in other countries or using biological warfare to create disease and famine. They do make mistakes that have gotten us into conflicts though.
The worst mistakes we make that have really gotten us in the mess we are in have been made in the last 100 years or so starting just after WW1 and really after WW2 ended. Mistakes were made in the peace armistice with the Axis and how land was dealt out. Then we poorly aligned ourselves with crooked leaders of Middle Eastern states and in Asia. I think the biggest snafus I've seen since the 70's is that believe it or not, the US supported Suddam in the begginning when he came to power in Iraq. Not to mention our intelligent failed to recognize the coup that took place in Iran. That is the reason that the US supported Suddam in the beginning because we would have an ally against Iran to protect oil interests. We were supporting a tyrant who was killing his own people and terrorizing Iraq, not to mention Iran and are intelligence agencies knew about it. The US government needs to learn not to support the bad guy and then we want have to go clean up our mistake like we are doing now. You want to know why there are xtremists muslim groups that hate our guts. We support crooked governments to protect oil interests. While we the American people don't know anything about it until it is history, but the people in the middle east do. Now we had to go over there and remove Suddam and wonder why there is such a division in the country of people who support us and others who don't. We wouldn't have to do this, nor would there have been a Gulf war back in the early 90's if the US had not supported Suddam back in the 70's and early 80's.
We do need to help out other people in the world, but we need to keep our noses out of other countries politics. Yes, we have poverty and crime here, the whole world does, and we will until humans and society advances and evolves beyond greed and selfishness. A lot of money is wasted and squandered in the government that could support mental health programs which would solve a lot of the homeless epidemic. Funding for mental health has been cut drastically in the last 10 years. I know I have a mom who has fought disassociation disorder and manic-depression. It takes people caring and willing to take some of their free time to help out those in need. Not just dropping some dollars to an aid organization although that is needed too. Let's face, some people can't be helped and not because they are sick or anything, but just because they don't want help.
There are secret societies but they don't control the world. There is democracy to some degree in the US. Go to some other countries and see if you have the freedoms there that you do here. The wealthy elite do control and have alot of power and influence. You can forget running for President of the US if you aren't a millionaire, really a multi-millionaire with some influence. Money, power and greed runs the world right now. Not because of secret societies but because humanity has not evolved much since he crawled out of the sea.
While I don't follow a "god", but I guess you could say I do follow some sort of "religion" since I a Taoist, the comments I'm about to make are not anti-religious, and I don't know if they really have anything to do with this thread or not. There have been many wars and atrocities committed by religious groups, not just Christian or Muslims now, everybody wants to pick on Christians and Muslims. Look at the world today and back into history. This was done by the influence of an elite, power hungry few who were able to control large numbers of their fellow believers through fear and charisma. We should learn to respect other people's beliefs and cultures even when different from ours.
xplororor, again you make some good points in a round about, way out there way, and I'm not one for conspiracies and all as most of the problems are just rooted to money, power and greed. Once we evolve past that you and I will see changes, but not in this life time.
BTW, forgive the grammer and spelling as I have the flu and am a little loopy from all this medication too. Woot.
Originally posted by Stableboy God you FASCISTS make me sick..... Yes the world wish you would worry about yourselves more.... and just F*%$ off and leave the rest of the world alone from your interferance. Yes some places in the states are run down Yes some people are poor. No they dont loose limbs regularly to land mines No they arent raped by soldiers daily No they can get food and medical help if they need it No they dont have to walk 20 miles to get a drink of dirty worm infested water So F%^& right off!!!!*scratches nose with his hackmaster +200 Universe Slaying pogo stick of DOOM
i dont think you even understand what fascist means. it means a dictatorship government, that practices nationalism (which means they only help themselves, and are mostly rascist) so from what i can garner from your inane ramblings, you seem to be a fascist yourself, and try using a dictionary in the future.
Children In Back Seats Cause Accidents. Accidents In Back Seats Cause Children.
Originally posted by Stableboy God you FASCISTS make me sick..... Yes the world wish you would worry about yourselves more.... and just F*%$ off and leave the rest of the world alone from your interferance. Yes some places in the states are run down Yes some people are poor. No they dont loose limbs regularly to land mines No they arent raped by soldiers daily No they can get food and medical help if they need it No they dont have to walk 20 miles to get a drink of dirty worm infested water So F%^& right off!!!!
*scratches nose with his hackmaster +200 Universe Slaying pogo stick of DOOM
i dont think you even understand what fascist means. it means a dictatorship government, that practices nationalism (which means they only help themselves, and are mostly rascist) so from what i can garner from your inane ramblings, you seem to be a fascist yourself, and try using a dictionary in the future.
Children In Back Seats Cause Accidents. Accidents In Back Seats Cause Children.
First I want to thank you for responding. And from what you posted, I can see you actually took the time to have read through most of what I posted. It seems like you and I agree on all key points. Soon you will agree with ALL the sources I posted links to, after you finnish reading them all.
Man, xplororor, you need to lay off the juice man or stop staying up all night watching X-Files.
The entire idea behind shows like "X-Files", and movies like "Matrix", is to take the known truth, and dilute it. Then when more of the truth comes out, people make fun of it. X-Files is fake. What was on the front page of the March 16, 2004 NY Times is real. What was on the cover of the recent issue of Discover Magazine (Nov 2004, Dec 2004) is real. Go to your local library, to the periodicals section, and look for yourself. You'll find the NY Times on microfilm.
I'm joking, and you do make some good points if a little out there.
No, I make no points at all. I simply am steering everyone to the proof. That is why I posted all those links. Those links are what make the points. Those sources are what make the points. 60 Minutes, the NY Times, and every major news media on the planet.
Most civil wars, disease, famines initiated by the US. Are you kidding me! I'm sorry but that is not even close to being true, no matter how many conspiracy theorist you listen to or read books by.
Re-read what I said. The USA does not run the USA. There is no goverment in the USA. There are no Republicans, there are no Democrats, there are no liberals, there are no conservatives. There are ONLY secret, clandestine, elite, societies. BOTH Bush and Kerry for example belonged to the SAME secret society. Vote for who? Vote for what? They are both controlled by the exact same puppet masters. So it is not the US initiating most civil wars, disease, famines....... it is these secret, clandestine, elite, societies/organizations who are initiating it all. Since they are the ones really running the US, and the world. Don't be afraid to click on all the links I listed.
While the US has made so many bad errors in judgement when it comes to foreign politics, some of which have been selfish, that have come back to bite us in the rear that we don't have an arse now, the US by no means is going around trying to create civil war in other countries or using biological warfare to create disease and famine. They do make mistakes that have gotten us into conflicts though.
Again, there is no US. There never was. There is no US goverment, there never was. There is, has, always was - these secret, clandestine, elite, societies that do everything, that make history, that started and finnished everything. And yes, guys like Soros do create civil wars in other countries. So does (did) Prescot Bush. These societies are not loyal to any country. No matter what country they live in, or have their current base of operations established in. So if the US suffers from some action they do, they could care less. And it has happend, is happening, and will happen.
The worst mistakes we make that have really gotten us in the mess we are in have been made in the last 100 years or so starting just after WW1 and really after WW2 ended. Mistakes were made in the peace armistice with the Axis and how land was dealt out.
Dude, no mistakes were made in WW2. It was never the Allies vs the Axis. It was secret, clandestine societies manipulating world goverments to their advantage.
It was because of Roosevelt making a new law (AFTER Germany was at war with the USA)that Bush was forced to stop doing what he was doing.
Then we poorly aligned ourselves with crooked leaders of Middle Eastern states and in Asia. I think the biggest snafus I've seen since the 70's is that believe it or not, the US supported Suddam in the begginning when he came to power in Iraq. Not to mention our intelligent failed to recognize the coup that took place in Iran. That is the reason that the US supported Suddam in the beginning because we would have an ally against Iran to protect oil interests. We were supporting a tyrant who was killing his own people and terrorizing Iraq, not to mention Iran and are intelligence agencies knew about it. The US government needs to learn not to support the bad guy and then we want have to go clean up our mistake like we are doing now. You want to know why there are xtremists muslim groups that hate our guts. We support crooked governments to protect oil interests. While we the American people don't know anything about it until it is history, but the people in the middle east do. Now we had to go over there and remove Suddam and wonder why there is such a division in the country of people who support us and others who don't. We wouldn't have to do this, nor would there have been a Gulf war back in the early 90's if the US had not supported Suddam back in the 70's and early 80's.
You are close to the truth. The USA did far more than "support" Saddam. The USA made him what he is/was.
"""The United States offered subsidized food supplies that Saddam's regime badly needed, along with advanced technology and biological agents adaptable to weapons of mass destruction."""" .
IF the US truly wanted to know if Saddam had "weapons of mass destruction", all the US had to do was check their receipts of the items they sold/gave to Saddam. Even Oprah Winfrey could not believe what was really going on and did her own investigation... finding video of Rumsfield visiting with Saddam in the early 1980's back when the US and France gave Saddam a pre-made Nuclear Reactor.
We do need to help out other people in the world, but we need to keep our noses out of other countries politics. Yes, we have poverty and crime here, the whole world does, and we will until humans and society advances and evolves beyond greed and selfishness. A lot of money is wasted and squandered in the government that could support mental health programs which would solve a lot of the homeless epidemic. Funding for mental health has been cut drastically in the last 10 years. I know I have a mom who has fought disassociation disorder and manic-depression. It takes people caring and willing to take some of their free time to help out those in need. Not just dropping some dollars to an aid organization although that is needed too. Let's face, some people can't be helped and not because they are sick or anything, but just because they don't want help.
I agree some people cannot be helped. And like I said in my original post that you quoted, I listed the things you, I, and everone can do. Things which you and I seem to fully agree on. But there is a big, big, big, very big picture. Again, click on the links in my original post. Read the sources for yourself. There is no US, there are no countries. There are only elite, secret, clandestine, societies making all that is happening... happen. And they are not loyal to any country, no matter what country they currently have their base of operations in.
There are secret societies but they don't control the world. There is democracy to some degree in the US. Go to some other countries and see if you have the freedoms there that you do here. The wealthy elite do control and have alot of power and influence. You can forget running for President of the US if you aren't a millionaire, really a multi-millionaire with some influence. Money, power and greed runs the world right now. Not because of secret societies but because humanity has not evolved much since he crawled out of the sea.
No you can forget running for US president if you do not have the right bloodlines (a major requirement on if you are approached by many of these clandestine societies.). Forget running for president if you are not a bona-fid member of one of the major secret, clandestine societies. BOTH Kerry AND Bush were, are, and currently are, members of the exact same secret society. (So is Dean.) Once again, do not be afraid to click on the links in my actual post, and read them. Those are the sources. No me. I am nothing. I am simply pointing to the sources.
There is no democracy in the US. Never was, never is, never will be. Two words - Electorial College. From the getgo, the founding fathers did not trust democracy, nor believe in it. It is simply a tool for them and the societies to control the masses better than past setups/goverments.
Ever hear of the Patriot Act? After they were shocked that they were able to pass it, and not a single "red blooded American" rioted, marched, or made a peep, they went and passed Patriot Act II. Both Acts 100% nullify the entire constitution of the United States of America. Bush is pushing for ALL Illegals to be allowed into the USA no questions asked. And not a single "red blooded" American is making a peep. Americans are beyond apathetic. They are metally, politically, d-e-a-d. And sadly, will get what they deserve in the near future. (4 to 8 years from now. )
You have made some progress in the past few days by admitting there are secret, clandestine, elite, societies. You are now on the road to true, hardcore, reality. Does the US influence the world? How much would you say the USA influences the world? Does Europe influence the world? How much would you say Europe influences the world?
Now click on the links in my original post that you quoted. Is there such a thing as a news show called "60 Minutes"? Is Bush, Kerry, Bush Sr, and Grandpa Prescot Bush, Howard Dean, and many others, members of the SAME secret society? If they ARE members, and they ARE in positions of power in the USA.... and if the USA does have a major influence on the world... then it will be a matter of time before you realize by default these societies do so control the USA, and the rest of the world.
Last, the wealthy, elite, who ARE members of these societies, do control, influence, and run things... in every country. The "first world" countries, and the "third world" countries. Money, power, and greed do not run the world right now. Money does not = power. Power = money. Connections = power. Being a member of one of these secret, clandestine, elite, societies = connections to anything, and anywhere. If one is not a member of one of these societies, one cannot have, or keep, their money and power.
While I don't follow a "god", but I guess you could say I do follow some sort of "religion" since I a Taoist, the comments I'm about to make are not anti-religious, and I don't know if they really have anything to do with this thread or not. There have been many wars and atrocities committed by religious groups, not just Christian or Muslims now, everybody wants to pick on Christians and Muslims. Look at the world today and back into history. This was done by the influence of an elite, power hungry few who were able to control large numbers of their fellow believers through fear and charisma. We should learn to respect other people's beliefs and cultures even when different from ours.
I fully agree. And none of that sounds "anti-religious". It sounds 100% pro-religious. I mean, IF everyone truely believed in their religion, then they would kill no one. Since by default they would have to believe their god made them, and everyone else. IF their god made everyone else, then everyone else are their god's creations, aka sentient life, respected life. It is between their god and everyone else who lives or dies. Not up to them to decide for their god. But alas, most do not truely believe in whatever religion they say they are. Proof is in their actions which speak louder than what they say and their words.
xplororor, again you make some good points in a round about, way out there way, and I'm not one for conspiracies and all as most of the problems are just rooted to money, power and greed. Once we evolve past that you and I will see changes, but not in this life time.
BTW, forgive the grammer and spelling as I have the flu and am a little loopy from all this medication too. Woot.
A conspiracy is something unproven. Something unsubstatiated. Something that might be true or might be untrue. Conspiracy Theory is the popular pharase. These are not conspiracies. These are not Theories. This is all f-a-c-t-s. Do not go by me or what I say. Go by the solid, hardcore, proofs, facts, and information. Many of which I listed in the links in my original post you quoted. How can it be a "conspiracy" that Bush Jr, Bush Sr, and grandpa Prescot Bush, and Kerry, are ALL, in the same secret, clandestine, elite, society? As well as many heads of companies, CEOs, buisnessmen, and politicians? It is all documented. From the NY Times, to 60 Minutes. What more do you need to convince you it is all a fact?
As i said either in this post, or the other. If people just learned to tolerate and respect each other, the world could be a much better place. heck, the tribes in africa who have never seen the outside world are likely much better off then advanced civilization.
If change comes, it likely wont be while im alive, But perhaps ill be able to see it when im a ghost
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I think it's the objective of your past self to make you cringe.
Dude Seriously, no offense but if you think we are being controlled by a "secret society" ur whacked man. It would be like me saying, i think mmorpg develepors are really under-cover FPS developers bent on destroying mmorpg (which i think is true ). But seriously if there was a secret society bush and kerry wouldn't be in it:
Bush: He can't even pronounce secret society, He's 2 dumb.
Kerry: He would bore the society members till they killed kerry.
It may seem like we vote for the lesser of 2 evils, but there not from a secret society.
P.S: If you read dilbert, flashback. If you want to join the real secret society. Join Dogberts Ruling Class b4 we take over the world and u bone heads become our slaves
On the Never Ending search for a satisfying mmorpg.
On the Never Ending search for a satisfying mmorpg.
Originally posted by Falian But seriously if there was a secret society bush and kerry wouldn't be in it:
Just two words, Skull & Bones.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didnt exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
To start off, I'd like to say that I know some people from Sri Lanka. It's a country in a situation commonly referred to as "second world", in terms of development somewhere between the Third World and the G8. They have free higher education, a solid professional population, and many other things that we think of as quite advanced. 15 kids in a bathroom is not a very apt description.
No nation can easily withstand such awesome devastation, rich or poor. We send aid in order to keep these countries stable and safe, which is for our own good in the end.
As for conspiracies, evil corporations, tyrannical governance, and all the other crud that this is dredging up: just slow down and think about this, really think for a moment.
Do you honestly think that Kerry and Bush are best buddies? Or for that matter that any one person can run something on the scale of a country? A few "world domination" type conspiracies have tried to form throughout history, the problem being that as their power spreads they become disjoint, visible, and basically vanish in a puff of logistics.
In order to become powerful an individual must be part of a powerful organization, in order to maintain an organization one must act in ways that maintain the organization. Very seldom do the goals of organizations and the needs of the population at large correspond. The reason that world leaders act in the manner that they do is that they have to keep their real supporters, the economic and military powers, happy. Sometimes that means letting your companies run roughshod of the rights of poeple in less powerful nations, sometimes that means letting foreign powers exploit your population. Sometimes it means inciting your people with hate, sometimes it means selling weopons to people that want you dead.
If you want an explanation for the state of the world, it is this: power requires ruthlessness, wealth is achieved through greed. So good luck getting that domestic aid, and just remember that Coke will be targeting the people who receive it with their next multi-billion dollar ad campaign. Hopefully someday we'll figure out how to fix the system. In the meantime: CUTTING OFF HELP TO THOSE THAT NEED IT IS NOT THE ANSWER.
In response to conspiracy man. Yes every single bit of information you link is 100% true, since, after all, every peice of information on the internet is true. IN fact just the other day I saw an article on how a boy was eaten by an alligator right on the lawn of the white house. Then Bush flew out of window, fired a KaMeHaMeHa at the reptilian monster and an epic battle to save the world began. It ended shortly after when Mr. T arrived and threw the alligator helluva far. Leme try to find the link for you. And I also shook hands with the 9 eyed talking sea cucumber from outer space who killed Kenedy from 3 lightyears away with a plasma beam sniper rifle.
This is the beginning of my past. This is the end of my journey.
This is the beginning of my past. This is the end of my journey.
Originally posted by Krimson In response to conspiracy man. Yes every single bit of information you link is 100% true, since, after all, every peice of information on the internet is true. IN fact just the other day I saw an article on how a boy was eaten by an alligator right on the lawn of the white house. Then Bush flew out of window, fired a KaMeHaMeHa at the reptilian monster and an epic battle to save the world began. It ended shortly after when Mr. T arrived and threw the alligator helluva far. Leme try to find the link for you. And I also shook hands with the 9 eyed talking sea cucumber from outer space who killed Kenedy from 3 lightyears away with a plasma beam sniper rifle.
This is the beginning of my past. This is the end of my journey.
funniest post ive read this year. the only thing conspiracy boy left out was how the moon landing is a fake. by the way before anyone jumps on me. yes i think we really landed on the moon.
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Originally posted by Krimson Ladies and Gentelman, every year the United States of America spends billions of dollars on foreign aid programs, attempting to help third world countries that are torn apart by civil war, famine, and disease get up on thier feet. But nobody bothers to take a look at our country. .
oh my God, not only USA is helping. Many countries are also helping. Many of these countries are poorer than USA and yet they are helping.
many of these countries got more problems than your country.
Do you know why? Stop playing game already and you will know why.
As the richest nation in the world we have an obligation to help struggling countries. It's abotu being part of the world community, which nobody gives a shit about anymore. To say we should't help struggling nations is outrageous. We can't just shut the door on people.
And Murt, you couldn't be more wrong. Belive it or not, not everyone grew up with the oppurtunities you and I grew up with. Theres people struggling who are working three jobs and doing ther best. But your attitude is the need to "clean up their acts." Jesus man come off your high horse and take a look around. Not everyone gets to go to college. And alot of the schools they go to growing up are extremely under-funded so they don't even get to learn the basics. And that is NOT there fault. Until you walk in their shoes, you have nothing to say abotu what they "should" be doing.
Other countries are also helping. The EU recently gave billions of dollars to the tsunami relief effort. What really gets me is we can spare billions for a damn war but when it comes to helping people, for example the tsunami relief, we can only spare 350 million. I guess that's the good "morals" we have in the White House.
Originally posted by Krimson In response to conspiracy man. Yes every single bit of information you link is 100% true, since, after all, every peice of information on the internet is true.
*sigh*
It is NOT on the internet. It is IN the New York Times. It is covered by major TV news programs like 60 Minutes and 20/20. These major, established, "liberal" and "conservative" media also have internet sites which point to them.
The internet is not the be all, and end all, of sources. It is simply a took to help one rapidly point to where the sources are at.
EXAMPLE: On the internet it lists which issues of the NY Times (and other major Newspapers, magazines, and other physical media) cover what Bush and Kerry were really up to. Your mission, should you consider yourself a real "patriotic, red blooded American", is to then go to your local library, and look it up for yourself on microfilm. Then Print it. The proof is sitting in every major library, waiting for the majority of Apathetic Americans to wake up and read it before their comfort zone vanishes.
IN fact just the other day I saw an article on how a boy was eaten by an alligator right on the lawn of the white house. Then Bush flew out of window, fired a KaMeHaMeHa at the reptilian monster and an epic battle to save the world began. It ended shortly after when Mr. T arrived and threw the alligator helluva far. Leme try to find the link for you. And I also shook hands with the 9 eyed talking sea cucumber from outer space who killed Kenedy from 3 lightyears away with a plasma beam sniper rifle.
This is the beginning of my past. This is the end of my journey.
Please post the link or links to this article you claim you saw. Next post the links that then point to which furtherphysical sources support this article you claim you saw and read - what major newspapers had it, what major magazines had it, if it is older than 1 year, where to find it on microfilm in any major libarary.
No nation can easily withstand such awesome devastation, rich or poor. We send aid in order to keep these countries stable and safe, which is for our own good in the end.
I agree. No one wants another post WW I Germany to happen again.
As for conspiracies, evil corporations, tyrannical governance, and all the other crud that this is dredging up: just slow down and think about this, really think for a moment.
Do you honestly think that Kerry and Bush are best buddies?
The slang term the society that they BOTH belong to is "Bonesmen". They are more than best buddies, they are both OWNED by exact same society. They are both yesmen to the same group. What I think means nothing. What the evidence shows is what is being talked about here. Major mainstream news programs like "60 Minutes" have covered this and found out it is 100% true. Kerry and Bush both belong to the exact same secret, clandestine, organization - the "Skull and Bones Society". Which goes back in history for decades. There are also many other different societies. Bush's daughter is a member of the "Script and Scroll Society".
All the evidence, proof, and facts, are sitting in every major local library waiting to be read.
Or for that matter that any one person can run something on the scale of a country? A few "world domination" type conspiracies have tried to form throughout history, the problem being that as their power spreads they become disjoint, visible, and basically vanish in a puff of logistics.
I never said one person runs countries. There have been cases where one person has ruined countries on purpose. Like Illumanati (Old World Illumanati to be specific) member George Soros.
In order to become powerful an individual must be part of a powerful organization, in order to maintain an organization one must act in ways that maintain the organization.
I already stated this.
Very seldom do the goals of organizations and the needs of the population at large correspond. The reason that world leaders act in the manner that they do is that they have to keep their real supporters, the economic and military powers, happy. Sometimes that means letting your companies run roughshod of the rights of poeple in less powerful nations, sometimes that means letting foreign powers exploit your population. Sometimes it means inciting your people with hate, sometimes it means selling weopons to people that want you dead.
On this point we both fully agree. Do you have any ideas what the people should do to stop this? That's what this thread is about - "The Problem" in the US and the World. Or do you think it is too late? That the people are too apathetic?
If you want an explanation for the state of the world, it is this: power requires ruthlessness,
Read Machiavelli. Ruthlessness is just one of many ways to get power. There is also cunning. Working behind the scenes. Getting it "honestly" aka in a non-ruthless manner. And more.
wealth is achieved through greed. So good luck getting that domestic aid, and just remember that Coke will be targeting the people who receive it with their next multi-billion dollar ad campaign. Hopefully someday we'll figure out how to fix the system. In the meantime: CUTTING OFF HELP TO THOSE THAT NEED IT IS NOT THE ANSWER.
On your last point we fully agree too. And this is also what I have been stating. But who runs Coke. Who has "broken the system" that you say one day we'll figure out how to fix? A nice movie to see is "Good Will Hunting" there's a key scene in which the millitary is trying to recruit the smart kid. And he drops it on what really goes on.
And I also agree cutting off aid to the disaster victims is not the answer. BUT not being afraid to go to the root of the root of the problem is the first direct step towards coming up with a permenant answer. Putting the magnifying glass on guys like George Soros, the Skull N Bones Society, etc... makes it harder for them to do what they've been doing.
"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom (1913)
For anyone who does not know who the heck Woodrow Wilson is/was. He was the President of the United States of America. And later why did US President Roosevelt feel the need to pass a law making it officially illegal for American buisnessmen to finance enemies of the USA?!?
to anyone who thinks that countires should stop sending aid to less fortunate people, well they should either:
1. Be herded up, put on cattle trains, and sent to deat....err....happy camps, where you live the good life. You know that America only went to war in WWII after they were attacked, so who cares about all them jews is what most americans were probably saying, then when they get attacked, they say, oh no, precious life lost. (by the way, Jewish people are awsome! )
2. Sent to a 3rd world country struggling just to have ANY form of gov., remeber, all gov. were at one time monarchies, so its better than nothing. Then we should see if those people who are against sending aid want help, or if they want to live in the dirt surrounded by rotting corpses, flies, human fecieis, poluted water, unbreathable air, 20 people to a 2 room shack; yeah, i'm sure you would like that wouldn't you? Because i'm sure that 1 homeless person is worse than thousands of people dieing each day in a 3rd world country under the specifications i have previously stated.
You sit in your giant SUV, poluting the %#$%ing air, and have some kid in africa choke on the air all because you need to feel "safe", and sit on your fu$%ing, fat @$$, buying your fu#$ing big mac, and then you say that the fu$%ing so called land of the free, needs more fu%$ing help then some country in which people can't go through damn drive throughs, hell, they can't even get one bite of $%^%ing food, so enjoy your fu%$ing big mac, you dirty, selfish, uncaring, stupid, arragont, evil, intolerable, _______________
P.S. don't forget to get about 100 napkins, those rainforests are a monster needing to be killed
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to anyone who thinks that countires should stop sending aid to less fortunate people,
I do not think anyone in this thread said no aid should be sent to countries needing it. But don't you agree it would be NICE if a permenat solution to the problems in other countries were found? That existing problems should be looked at with blatant honesty? All the way to the root of the root of the problem or problems?
How were all these other countries able to exist for thousands of years before the USA was even created?
well they should either:
1. Be herded up, put on cattle trains, and sent to deat....err....happy camps, where you live the good life.
Well hey, America also did have concentration camps too. The movie "Karate Kid" touched on this very buried part of American history. In the scene where Mr. Miyagi gets drunk and tells Raph Machio what happend to his wife while he was fighting for the USA. She died in a concentration camp... that was in the USA.
You know that America only went to war in WWII after they were attacked, so who cares about all them jews is what most americans were probably saying, then when they get attacked, they say, oh no, precious life lost. (by the way, Jewish people are awsome! )
And? A signifigant to majority of Americans during that time period were either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd generation German-American stock. Their Grandparents, parents, came over from Germany. They were rooting for Germany. In fact, many American buisnessmen were giving money openly, and directly to the Germans during WW2. Before and after Germany declared war on America. Including the Bush family.
You say its bad "no one" cared about the Jews. Did you know that the Jews (actually modern Jews are Khazaar bloodlined 'Jews') do not care about the gentiles? (Anyone who is non-jew.) They believe Jews are God's chosen people right now. And all Gentiles will be destroyed and/or ment to be ruled over by Jews.
But anyway, going back on the topic of this thread. What is the problem with the US and World... it is these clandestine societies. Which also pull strings in the "Jews" (aka Khazaar Jews) and "Gentiles" commuities.
2. Sent to a 3rd world country struggling just to have ANY form of gov., remeber, all gov. were at one time monarchies, so its better than nothing. Then we should see if those people who are against sending aid want help, or if they want to live in the dirt surrounded by rotting corpses, flies, human fecieis, poluted water, unbreathable air, 20 people to a 2 room shack; yeah, i'm sure you would like that wouldn't you? Because i'm sure that 1 homeless person is worse than thousands of people dieing each day in a 3rd world country under the specifications i have previously stated.
Let me ask you this. If according to you all countries, all gov at one time were monarchies, then what happened in the countries that no longer have monarchies? The people got fed up, and revolted. In America it was called the American Revolution. In France it was the French Revolution. How come the people of these "3rd world" countries don't revolt if they are fed up with their monarchies?
You sit in your giant SUV, poluting the %#$%ing air, and have some kid in africa choke on the air all because you need to feel "safe", and sit on your fu$%ing, fat @$$, buying your fu#$ing big mac, and then you say that the fu$%ing so called land of the free, needs more fu%$ing help then some country in which people can't go through damn drive throughs, hell, they can't even get one bite of $%^%ing food, so enjoy your fu%$ing big mac, you dirty, selfish, uncaring, stupid, arragont, evil, intolerable, _______________
*ahem* what about those of us who do not drive an SUV eh?
P.S. don't forget to get about 100 napkins, those rainforests are a monster needing to be killed
No one uses 100 napkins. Next the rainforests are NOT being destroyed to make napkins or paper. They are being destroyed to make more grazing land for cattle, and to expand cities, and industry. Ranching is one of the largest and growing industries in countries with rain forests.
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This isn't a religious debate...There was a point to be made by those scriptures I quoted. If you failed to see the relativity of it...You may need to sharpen those comprehension skills of yours.
Death is not to fear; for it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
First, post your sources that say "these people" in SIri Lanka have 11 children avarage. Post your sources that their houses are no bigger than a small bathroom. (A small bathroom is 7 feet tall, with a floorspace of 6 feet x 6 feet.) It is impossible to fit 2 parents, and 11 children into a "small bathroom". The facts please.
Next, there is a saying "Either do a job right, or do not do it at all". You are attempting to delve into world politics. If you really are going to do this, then go all the way.
- No effort at all has been made by anyone to improve the sitiuation. Everytime these "third world" countries do try improving theirselves, the USA, CIA, America, all come in and destabilize things. The World Bank, the UN, all are ultimatly under control of high ranking Illumaniti like guys like Soros
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/0582cffa111b40494e6b5f355bf2559e.htm
Who regularly raid, and destablilze countries all the time.
- The Catholic Church is one of the worse instigators of world destabilization in the history of the world. You have a long of world history homework to do.
- The USA is being destabilized on purpose by its own goverment, buisness leaders, politicians, officials, and moneymen.
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20041110-123424-5467r.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush%2C+illegal+immigrants
Some hardcore info about how the leaders of America are on purpose fast forwarding an economic collapse of the USA:
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
BTW, America (and the world), has never ever been run by goverments, or politicians. There has never ever been such a thing as conservative, liberal, republican, or democrat. America (and the rest of the world) has always been run by elite, clandestine, secret societies. There has never ever never been such a thing as Democracy. Or a Democratic goverment in America, or in any country in the world:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0122-10.htm
http://skullandcrossbones.org/articles/skullandbones.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush%2C+kerry%2C+skull+and+bones+society%27
40% to 80% of all American food is p-o-i-s-o-n-e-d:
http://www.sweetpoison.com/
(Do NOT eat or drink anything that has in it -> Nutri-sweet / Aspartame )
Ultimatly the only thing you, me, and other "middle class, working people" can do is this:
1. Do not let nothing get to you. Aka stop allowing yourself to panic, become agitated, ranting and raving. Losing control, name calling, etc...
2. Research, research, aka educate yourself. Make an effort to go down to your local bookstore and either buy, or browse, or read right there, the tons of books released about why the world is the way it is. Why things happen. On subjects such as the HSA, CIA, FBI, the homosexual known as J. Edgar Hoover who had more power than the President of the USA, Freemasons, Skull and Bones Society, Script and Scroll Society, Thule Society, Freemasons, Khazaar Jews, Hellfire Club, and the two biggies - The New World Illumanatti, and Old World Illumanatti.
Also cannot forget the Trilatteral Commision.
http://pl.indymedia.org/pl/2004/04/5526.shtml
3. Whatever your immediate goals are - do them! No matter what it is - learning to play the violin, how to ride a motorcycle, buying a 1968 Ford Mustang, traveling to Hawaii, seeing your mother/father/sibling/friend who you haven't seen in years, opening an Ice Cream shop, making your own MMORPG
, etc... etc... etc....
4. Whatever is in your power to do - do it! Passing along all this info to others you know. Helping out an elderly stranger. Taking devoted intrest in your kids. Making sure to put off having kids if you are under 25. Making sure to graduate High School at minimum, And College if you decide on it.
5. Accept all consequences for your actions and life that you live. This makes it easier to change whatever is negative about your life and/or situation.
Messed up things will keep on happening in America, and the rest of the world. Things will get even more messed up in the future. Nothing can be done about it. So it is useless to get worked up over it. Just live life now, go after all your goals and dreams right now.
Man, xplororor, you need to lay off the juice man or stop staying up all night watching X-Files.
I'm joking, and you do make some good points if a little out there. Most civil wars, disease, famines initiated by the US. Are you kidding me! I'm sorry but that is not even close to being true, no matter how many conspiracy theorist you listen to or read books by. While the US has made so many bad errors in judgement when it comes to foreign politics, some of which have been selfish, that have come back to bite us in the rear that we don't have an arse now, the US by no means is going around trying to create civil war in other countries or using biological warfare to create disease and famine. They do make mistakes that have gotten us into conflicts though.
The worst mistakes we make that have really gotten us in the mess we are in have been made in the last 100 years or so starting just after WW1 and really after WW2 ended. Mistakes were made in the peace armistice with the Axis and how land was dealt out. Then we poorly aligned ourselves with crooked leaders of Middle Eastern states and in Asia. I think the biggest snafus I've seen since the 70's is that believe it or not, the US supported Suddam in the begginning when he came to power in Iraq. Not to mention our intelligent failed to recognize the coup that took place in Iran. That is the reason that the US supported Suddam in the beginning because we would have an ally against Iran to protect oil interests. We were supporting a tyrant who was killing his own people and terrorizing Iraq, not to mention Iran and are intelligence agencies knew about it. The US government needs to learn not to support the bad guy and then we want have to go clean up our mistake like we are doing now. You want to know why there are xtremists muslim groups that hate our guts. We support crooked governments to protect oil interests. While we the American people don't know anything about it until it is history, but the people in the middle east do. Now we had to go over there and remove Suddam and wonder why there is such a division in the country of people who support us and others who don't. We wouldn't have to do this, nor would there have been a Gulf war back in the early 90's if the US had not supported Suddam back in the 70's and early 80's.
We do need to help out other people in the world, but we need to keep our noses out of other countries politics. Yes, we have poverty and crime here, the whole world does, and we will until humans and society advances and evolves beyond greed and selfishness. A lot of money is wasted and squandered in the government that could support mental health programs which would solve a lot of the homeless epidemic. Funding for mental health has been cut drastically in the last 10 years. I know I have a mom who has fought disassociation disorder and manic-depression. It takes people caring and willing to take some of their free time to help out those in need. Not just dropping some dollars to an aid organization although that is needed too. Let's face, some people can't be helped and not because they are sick or anything, but just because they don't want help.
There are secret societies but they don't control the world. There is democracy to some degree in the US. Go to some other countries and see if you have the freedoms there that you do here. The wealthy elite do control and have alot of power and influence. You can forget running for President of the US if you aren't a millionaire, really a multi-millionaire with some influence. Money, power and greed runs the world right now. Not because of secret societies but because humanity has not evolved much since he crawled out of the sea.
While I don't follow a "god", but I guess you could say I do follow some sort of "religion" since I a Taoist, the comments I'm about to make are not anti-religious, and I don't know if they really have anything to do with this thread or not. There have been many wars and atrocities committed by religious groups, not just Christian or Muslims now, everybody wants to pick on Christians and Muslims. Look at the world today and back into history. This was done by the influence of an elite, power hungry few who were able to control large numbers of their fellow believers through fear and charisma. We should learn to respect other people's beliefs and cultures even when different from ours.
xplororor, again you make some good points in a round about, way out there way, and I'm not one for conspiracies and all as most of the problems are just rooted to money, power and greed. Once we evolve past that you and I will see changes, but not in this life time.
BTW, forgive the grammer and spelling as I have the flu and am a little loopy from all this medication too. Woot.
i dont think you even understand what fascist means. it means a dictatorship government, that practices nationalism (which means they only help themselves, and are mostly rascist) so from what i can garner from your inane ramblings, you seem to be a fascist yourself, and try using a dictionary in the future.
Children In Back Seats Cause Accidents. Accidents In Back Seats Cause Children.
i dont think you even understand what fascist means. it means a dictatorship government, that practices nationalism (which means they only help themselves, and are mostly rascist) so from what i can garner from your inane ramblings, you seem to be a fascist yourself, and try using a dictionary in the future.
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As i said either in this post, or the other. If people just learned to tolerate and respect each other, the world could be a much better place. heck, the tribes in africa who have never seen the outside world are likely much better off then advanced civilization.
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I think it's the objective of your past self to make you cringe.
Dude Seriously, no offense but if you think we are being controlled by a "secret society" ur whacked man. It would be like me saying, i think mmorpg develepors are really under-cover FPS developers bent on destroying mmorpg
(which i think is true 
). But seriously if there was a secret society bush and kerry wouldn't be in it:
Bush: He can't even pronounce secret society, He's 2 dumb.
Kerry: He would bore the society members till they killed kerry.
It may seem like we vote for the lesser of 2 evils, but there not from a secret society.
P.S: If you read dilbert, flashback. If you want to join the real secret society. Join Dogberts Ruling Class b4 we take over the world and u bone heads become our slaves
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Just two words, Skull & Bones.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didnt exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
To start off, I'd like to say that I know some people from Sri Lanka. It's a country in a situation commonly referred to as "second world", in terms of development somewhere between the Third World and the G8. They have free higher education, a solid professional population, and many other things that we think of as quite advanced. 15 kids in a bathroom is not a very apt description.
No nation can easily withstand such awesome devastation, rich or poor. We send aid in order to keep these countries stable and safe, which is for our own good in the end.
As for conspiracies, evil corporations, tyrannical governance, and all the other crud that this is dredging up: just slow down and think about this, really think for a moment.
Do you honestly think that Kerry and Bush are best buddies? Or for that matter that any one person can run something on the scale of a country? A few "world domination" type conspiracies have tried to form throughout history, the problem being that as their power spreads they become disjoint, visible, and basically vanish in a puff of logistics.
In order to become powerful an individual must be part of a powerful organization, in order to maintain an organization one must act in ways that maintain the organization. Very seldom do the goals of organizations and the needs of the population at large correspond. The reason that world leaders act in the manner that they do is that they have to keep their real supporters, the economic and military powers, happy. Sometimes that means letting your companies run roughshod of the rights of poeple in less powerful nations, sometimes that means letting foreign powers exploit your population. Sometimes it means inciting your people with hate, sometimes it means selling weopons to people that want you dead.
If you want an explanation for the state of the world, it is this: power requires ruthlessness, wealth is achieved through greed. So good luck getting that domestic aid, and just remember that Coke will be targeting the people who receive it with their next multi-billion dollar ad campaign. Hopefully someday we'll figure out how to fix the system. In the meantime: CUTTING OFF HELP TO THOSE THAT NEED IT IS NOT THE ANSWER.
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oh my God, not only USA is helping. Many countries are also helping. Many of these countries are poorer than USA and yet they are helping.
many of these countries got more problems than your country.
Do you know why? Stop playing game already and you will know why.
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As the richest nation in the world we have an obligation to help struggling countries. It's abotu being part of the world community, which nobody gives a shit about anymore. To say we should't help struggling nations is outrageous. We can't just shut the door on people.
And Murt, you couldn't be more wrong. Belive it or not, not everyone grew up with the oppurtunities you and I grew up with. Theres people struggling who are working three jobs and doing ther best. But your attitude is the need to "clean up their acts." Jesus man come off your high horse and take a look around. Not everyone gets to go to college. And alot of the schools they go to growing up are extremely under-funded so they don't even get to learn the basics. And that is NOT there fault. Until you walk in their shoes, you have nothing to say abotu what they "should" be doing.
Other countries are also helping. The EU recently gave billions of dollars to the tsunami relief effort. What really gets me is we can spare billions for a damn war but when it comes to helping people, for example the tsunami relief, we can only spare 350 million. I guess that's the good "morals" we have in the White House.
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On your last point we fully agree too. And this is also what I have been stating. But who runs Coke. Who has "broken the system" that you say one day we'll figure out how to fix? A nice movie to see is "Good Will Hunting" there's a key scene in which the millitary is trying to recruit the smart kid. And he drops it on what really goes on.
And I also agree cutting off aid to the disaster victims is not the answer. BUT not being afraid to go to the root of the root of the problem is the first direct step towards coming up with a permenant answer. Putting the magnifying glass on guys like George Soros, the Skull N Bones Society, etc... makes it harder for them to do what they've been doing.
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Yep no point beating about the Bush America needs fixing.
to anyone who thinks that countires should stop sending aid to less fortunate people, well they should either:
1. Be herded up, put on cattle trains, and sent to deat....err....happy camps, where you live the good life. You know that America only went to war in WWII after they were attacked, so who cares about all them jews is what most americans were probably saying, then when they get attacked, they say, oh no, precious life lost. (by the way, Jewish people are awsome!
)
2. Sent to a 3rd world country struggling just to have ANY form of gov., remeber, all gov. were at one time monarchies, so its better than nothing. Then we should see if those people who are against sending aid want help, or if they want to live in the dirt surrounded by rotting corpses, flies, human fecieis, poluted water, unbreathable air, 20 people to a 2 room shack; yeah, i'm sure you would like that wouldn't you? Because i'm sure that 1 homeless person is worse than thousands of people dieing each day in a 3rd world country under the specifications i have previously stated.
You sit in your giant SUV, poluting the %#$%ing air, and have some kid in africa choke on the air all because you need to feel "safe", and sit on your fu$%ing, fat @$$, buying your fu#$ing big mac, and then you say that the fu$%ing so called land of the free, needs more fu%$ing help then some country in which people can't go through damn drive throughs, hell, they can't even get one bite of $%^%ing food, so enjoy your fu%$ing big mac, you dirty, selfish, uncaring, stupid, arragont, evil, intolerable, _______________
P.S. don't forget to get about 100 napkins, those rainforests are a monster needing to be killed
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