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  • MorningStarGGMorningStarGG Member UncommonPosts: 394

    Also about low population, choose the right server, stop going on the small, dead ones. On the ones I play, Iron Rock(Order) and Dark Crag(Destruction) There is plenty of people on to do things, I have never had issues doing SCs, oRvR, PQs, or anything else.
     
    There are other good population realms but these I can vouch for personally.

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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by spyder2k5


    They have fixed tons over the past few patches and more coming. For those who do not think so, read the patch notes, try the trial. Stop mouthing a game on past experiences with the game. Those opinions are from before the past few patches, don't say they weren't because most if n not all what people were complaining about has been fixed.
     
    Stop judging a game based on others opinions or past experience, MMOs change course in a heart beat. The past few patches prove that.

    Stop lying, shill. I am currently subscribed and was playing a few hours ago.

    If they have fixed 'tons', then name some things they have fixed besides typos and bugs in PQ stages that no one plays anymore.

    I have named things that aren't fixed. Things that affect the majority of players.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by spyder2k5


    Also about low population, choose the right server, stop going on the small, dead ones. On the ones I play, Iron Rock(Order) and Dark Crag(Destruction) There is plenty of people on to do things, I have never had issues doing SCs, oRvR, PQs, or anything else.

     

    There are other good population realms but these I can vouch for personally.



    The problem is not players chosing empty servers, but rather that servers once populated are losing players. 

    I moved three times only to see the servers die each time and resulting in mythic almost gleefully announcing "The next round of character transfers is going live!  Enjoy your new homes!". 

     

     

    I won't argue that you feel "tons" of things have been fixed.  There have been some big patches to the game with both bug fixes and new content.  The problem I think most who have left will find is that not enough of the right things have been fixed or addressed.  The fixes did not resolve the reasons why many people left, regardless of the volume of changes in the last year. 

     

     

  • MorningStarGGMorningStarGG Member UncommonPosts: 394
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by spyder2k5


    They have fixed tons over the past few patches and more coming. For those who do not think so, read the patch notes, try the trial. Stop mouthing a game on past experiences with the game. Those opinions are from before the past few patches, don't say they weren't because most if n not all what people were complaining about has been fixed.
     
    Stop judging a game based on others opinions or past experience, MMOs change course in a heart beat. The past few patches prove that.

    Stop lying, shill. I am currently subscribed and was playing a few hours ago.

    If they have fixed 'tons', then name some things they have fixed besides typos and bugs in PQ stages that no one plays anymore.

    I have named things that aren't fixed. Things that affect the majority of players.

     

    Balance, AoE, City sieges, performance issues, the list goes on of the BIG things being fixed, and that have been fixed. It is so obvious you have not been on its not even funny.

     

    The servers mentioned are holding steady with population, even getting more slightly everyday, I do census you know?

     

    The ones that are dead they want people to move off of, not by force but by choice. I would rather see 4 good pop servers then everyone spread out. I believe from the looks of things they are trying to do just that.

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  • yavozerbyavozerb Member Posts: 34

    i really enjoyed this game and would luv to come back to see what changes have been made, but the problem is the changes made i want to see were all in T4, there is no way i could get to see T4 on a 10 day trial.  If they want me and alot of people like me to come back do like LOTRO does all the time.  Turn on everyones account for 2 weeks, in 2 weeks if i haven't resubed, turn it off.  It would let us come back and see the changes on OUR characters.  I been saying this for a while now, if they ever hear and turn them on i'll come back and i might stay.  Haven't felt anything but disapointment from games lately, and in several betas that don't look like they are taking the proper path to a great game, no idea what to hope for anymore......

  • carlpuccinocarlpuccino Member UncommonPosts: 43
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter


    It's the hopelessness of watching them NOT fix things for so long.
    The mail still doesn't work right. The search functions in the AH still don't work right. The queue system for scenarios sometimes doesn't work right.
    THE GAME HAS BEEN OUT FOR ALMOST A YEAR. Fix something. Even if the fixes were small, if they were coming regularly, we would have hope that the game would improve. There is no such hope.
    They STILL waste time and resources on temporary content like the live events which go away after a week.
    The bare minimum they should have done by now is create another T4 area where people could roam around and kill each other for rewards and resources. Shut the city sieges down for a while and FIX them. Don't try to make the engine fit the 'vision'. Make the vision fit the engine.



     

    Live event are cool ! It's a part of the game that i like most. I prefer a game with some little bugs but a lot of new content and different thing to do than a boring game with no bugs at all ... But it's only my opinion.

    **If your still playing, at least, you should cheer up the game instead of pulling it down.

    Stop complaining and move your ass.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by carlpuccino
     
    Live event are cool ! It's a part of the game that i like most. I prefer a game with some little bugs but a lot of new content and different thing to do than a boring game with no bugs at all ... But it's only my opinion.
    **If your still playing, at least, you should cheer up the game instead of pulling it down.

    I give credit for the good, and criticize the bad. That is called 'objectivity'.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • carlpuccinocarlpuccino Member UncommonPosts: 43
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by carlpuccino
     
    Live event are cool ! It's a part of the game that i like most. I prefer a game with some little bugs but a lot of new content and different thing to do than a boring game with no bugs at all ... But it's only my opinion.
    **If your still playing, at least, you should cheer up the game instead of pulling it down.

    I give credit for the good, and criticize the bad. That is called 'objectivity'.



     

    This game as already been enough criticize, we all know every little problem with the  game but i want people to remember that this game offer a lot of funny content.

    Stop complaining and move your ass.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by carlpuccino

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by carlpuccino
     
    Live event are cool ! It's a part of the game that i like most. I prefer a game with some little bugs but a lot of new content and different thing to do than a boring game with no bugs at all ... But it's only my opinion.
    **If your still playing, at least, you should cheer up the game instead of pulling it down.

    I give credit for the good, and criticize the bad. That is called 'objectivity'.



     

    This game as already been enough criticize, we all know every little problem with the  game but i want people to remember that this game offer a lot of funny content.

    If we all no the problems, then we all know the fun content, as well.

     

    There are people reading this who are considering trying it out. It's fair play to let them know BOTH sides.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • Larry2298Larry2298 Member Posts: 865

    I play Warhammer for 2 months but paid 3 months. The first month was 30 days play. The reason I sub the game because one time I have joined wb to defend T2 Keep, we had about 3 wbs and Desto also got that number. 

    The defense lasted 7-8 hours and Desto keeps trying to capture the keep, non-stop.

    We found Desto tried to attack the Keep around 2 pm, and they initiated the attack around 4pm, we won the defense until 23:30 pm.

    After that, I sub the game but the game become Peacehammer like the small hammer uses in court. Everyone judged on the game. The result is Warhammer is Guilty, life sentence.

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    I gace it 3 tries. Pve is boring and the pvp is too repetitive. Still laggy at times and the comabt is average at best still. It seems nothing has changed since release.

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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    I gace it 3 tries. Pve is boring and the pvp is too repetitive. Still laggy at times and the comabt is average at best still. It seems nothing has changed since release.

    To be fair, RvR in the lower tiers is a lot more active, since the rewards are better.

     

    No real improvement yet in T3 and T4.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • GrayhGrayh Member Posts: 123

    I've been playing since Beta and the game has improved substantially.  The game certainly isn't for everyone,  but to say they haven't made huge strides in the past year would be a blatant lie.   The game has changed a lot, but its still Warhammer -- and if you have/had fundamental issues with the game design, you will always have those problems.  They are improving/tweaking the game they launched with, not giving it massive overhauls and not making it something it isn't.   

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945
    Originally posted by Grayh


    I've been playing since Beta and the game has improved substantially.  The game certainly isn't for everyone,  but to say they haven't made huge strides in the past year would be a blatant lie.   The game has changed a lot, but its still Warhammer -- and if you have/had fundamental issues with the game design, you will always have those problems.  They are improving/tweaking the game they launched with, not giving it massive overhauls and not making it something it isn't.   



    What really has changed over the last year? 

    Personally I don't think the game has improved substantially.  Not that Mythic hasn't tried, because I can see they understand the major issues of the game, but they just have not nailed the solutions yet.   Not for lack of trying, but rather lack of effectiveness. 

     

    This thread is about giving the game a second chance, which I do every few months.  Mostly to hang out with real life friends who still play.  Every time though it is the same results from the same issues. 

     

    What really has changed over the last year that resolved the big issues holding the game back, because honestly I don't see it.

     

    It still bums me out, because I want to love this game. 

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by Grayh


    I've been playing since Beta and the game has improved substantially.  The game certainly isn't for everyone,  but to say they haven't made huge strides in the past year would be a blatant lie.   

    They haven't:

    Made huge strides in improving performance.

    Made huge strides in improving PvE quality.

    Made huge strides in improving end game design.

    That's truth.

     

    I have been playing since release.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • GrayhGrayh Member Posts: 123
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by Grayh


    I've been playing since Beta and the game has improved substantially.  The game certainly isn't for everyone,  but to say they haven't made huge strides in the past year would be a blatant lie.   

    They haven't:

    Made huge strides in improving performance.

    Made huge strides in improving PvE quality.

    Made huge strides in improving end game design.

    That's truth.

     

    I have been playing since release.

    Well, the truth for me is, I've had major client performance improvements to the point where I never reduce my computers settings under balanced anymore, even in fortress fights.   At one point the game was unplayable for me under certain conditions, now it is. I consider those performance improvements. I'm sure results may vary depending on PC setup as I have a decent rig.

    PvE hasn't changed much, aside from an entire new zone and dungeon with Land of the Dead.  You may not like it -- which is fine, I don't do backflips with it either, but its a pretty substantial change that you can't just blow off and pretend it didn't add anything.  I've had some fun times in there but I have no desire to do it on a regular basis, nor have I for any other PvE content for the variety of MMO's I've played.

    Improving end game design -- Just off the top of my head they have added zone domination, 2nd ramps in keeps, keep upgrade system,  RvR influence rewards, Token system for end game gear and made major changes to city siege PQ's...

    I'll say it again, they are improving and tweaking their core design.  If you have fundamental issues with that design, than those improvements will not hold any weight with you.  I don't care if you like this game or not,  I'm not here to convince you one way or the other, but things have changed quite a bit in the game.   You may not view those changes as positive, but there are others that may.

     

     

     

     

     

  • GrayhGrayh Member Posts: 123
    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by Grayh


    I've been playing since Beta and the game has improved substantially.  The game certainly isn't for everyone,  but to say they haven't made huge strides in the past year would be a blatant lie.   The game has changed a lot, but its still Warhammer -- and if you have/had fundamental issues with the game design, you will always have those problems.  They are improving/tweaking the game they launched with, not giving it massive overhauls and not making it something it isn't.   



    What really has changed over the last year? 

    Personally I don't think the game has improved substantially.  Not that Mythic hasn't tried, because I can see they understand the major issues of the game, but they just have not nailed the solutions yet.   Not for lack of trying, but rather lack of effectiveness. 

     

    This thread is about giving the game a second chance, which I do every few months.  Mostly to hang out with real life friends who still play.  Every time though it is the same results from the same issues. 

     

    What really has changed over the last year that resolved the big issues holding the game back, because honestly I don't see it.

     

    It still bums me out, because I want to love this game. 

    I don't know what your "big issues holding the game back" are, because people look for different things. But here are mine....

    The biggest gripes for ME that were fixed are:

    1) Ward System: Hard to get, and had to wear the gear to get the ward:  Fixed with new System

    2) T4 Zone Locks: Was tough to lock a zone with no competition: Pretty easy to lock a zone if you really want to.

    3) Performance:  I no longer have to constantly change my settings depending on what I'm doing.

    My biggest gripes for ME that are NOT fixed:



    1.) Fortress fights are complete crap at the moment. -- I understand this is next on the agenda for an update

    2.) The length of time it takes from pushing a zone to killing a king is way too long for me to experience all of it.  Being an east coaster that doesn't stay up all that late means by the time I get to the city I'm already exhausted and staying up for anything past Stage one rarely happens .  -- I doubt this will ever be fixed for me

    Are there a bunch of other little things that bother me? Sure, but they aren't big enough for me to overlook the enjoyable parts.

  • wardog250wardog250 Member Posts: 249
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by Grayh


    I've been playing since Beta and the game has improved substantially.  The game certainly isn't for everyone,  but to say they haven't made huge strides in the past year would be a blatant lie.   

    They haven't:

    Made huge strides in improving performance.

    Made huge strides in improving PvE quality.

    Made huge strides in improving end game design.

    That's truth.

     

    I have been playing since release.

     

    My biggest complaint with the game is the performance.  It still runs like it was still in development.  I can ran Age of Conan (when I played it) on this beast of a machine on full settings and did not have any problems; yet, this game I have to turn everything off and it still runs like total crap.  Its worse than a free to play mmo; which, it should be free to play and that's just my opinion.  You can plainly see this game has taken a stumble since launch and you are in denial if you say other wise.  I really wanted to see this game work well; but, its been a year and its not much better than it was when I was in beta.  Damn shame, I'd rather play SWG than this and that's a pathetic direction to have to go for a one up.

    I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei

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