Yeah, I'm not going to be a sucker a second time. If Funcom some how managed to buy say World of Warcraft from Blizzard I would cancel my sub immediately...I will not buy nor use anything that has the taint of Funcom branded on it.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall.
AoC had a failed launch but is not a failed game, it did not live up to the hype but then no MMO ever has.
“…and Secret Societies have grown to recruit man to combat the very real evil that seeps in unseen, players will fight the darkness and save the world!”
Sorry but who wrote this, Carolyn Koh? Is there some sort of secret message here or just a typo?
I agree that I would have liked to have started as an independent not allied with a society myself. Even if only in the starting location. But at some stage we would have to join a society to progress, no option there if the PvP mechanics are going to work properly.
Originally posted by Scot AoC had a failed launch but is not a failed game, it did not live up to the hype but then no MMO ever has. and Secret Societies have grown to recruit man to combat the very real evil that seeps in unseen, players will fight the darkness and save the world! Sorry but who wrote this, Carolyn Koh? Is there some sort of secret message here or just a typo? :)I agree that I would have liked to have started as an independent not allied with a society myself. Even if only in the starting location. But at some stage we would have to join a society to progress, no option there if the PvP mechanics are going to work properly.
What's the typo supposed to be?
I think it makes sense to have to ally yourself with a society from the start. If there is a way to chose it later that would cause more problems than they need, and it really wouldn't bring anything to the table. You'll still need to pick one before you can do anything interesting. The idea here is that only members of the societies know what's really going on, so you need to be a member of a society to fight what's really going on. It makes perfect sense.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
This game is going to be great. Its nice to have another MMO that is made in modern timeline with a bit of magic involved.
Funcom may have made a mistake with the early launching of AoC but that doesnt make them a crappy company. They wouldnt want to make the same mistake twice now would they?
It is skill based progression and less instanced, it also has some interesting concepts and fresh ideas for an MMO.
All im going to remind folks of here is of Funcom's track record of the games they put out it is not good. There track record says and loudly " LET THE BUYER BEWARE "
Jihad works both ways
" Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Would Threaten It " MAGA
All im going to remind folks of here is of Funcom's track record of the games they put out it is not good. There track record says and loudly " LET THE BUYER BEWARE " Jihad works both ways
Guess you never played either Dreamfall nor The Longest Journey.
Otherwise you wouldn't be saying this stupid bullshit.
Anarchy Online had a very rough start. Everyone knows that. Yet it turned out to be a very good game and up till today still plenty of people enjoy it.
I never got the hang of it and don't like the game. Each to their own. Just personal taste.
Still this game running today with a decent population. Far better then most of the so called tripple A crap that has been released these last years that either went down within a year or are crippling with subscribers.
All im going to remind folks of here is of Funcom's track record of the games they put out it is not good. There track record says and loudly " LET THE BUYER BEWARE " Jihad works both ways
Guess you never played either Dreamfall nor The Longest Journey.
Otherwise you wouldn't be saying this stupid bullshit.
Anarchy Online had a very rough start. Everyone knows that. Yet it turned out to be a very good game and up till today still plenty of people enjoy it.
I never got the hang of it and don't like the game. Each to their own. Just personal taste.
Still this game running today with a decent population. Far better then most of the so called tripple A crap that has been released these last years that either went down within a year or are crippling with subscribers.
Cheers
The fact remains that they " Funcom " puts out alot of hype and delivers an unfinished product that folks are paying to beta test for months and longer. You say nothing to disspell this and im not along in my thinking.
Jihad works both ways
" Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Would Threaten It " MAGA
The fact remains that they " Funcom " puts out alot of hype and delivers an unfinished product that folks are paying to beta test for months and longer. You say nothing to disspell this and im not along in my thinking.
Jihad works both ways
Name me one MMO, except LOTRO, that released the last 3-4 years that didn't turn out to be a PAID beta at launch?
The whole MMO genre is in a down spiral since the last 3 years. To blame it all on Funcom isn't fair.
They screwed up royally with Age of Conan. Granted.
But so did Mythic with Warhammer Online.
So did Sigil with Vanguard.
So did WB and Monolith with Matrix Online.
So did NCWest with Tabula Rasa.
So did Frogster/Acclaim with The Cronicles of Spellborn.
So did Aventurine with Darkfall.
So did Turbine with Acheron's Call 2 and Dungeons and Dragons Online.
And I can go on.... and on.
Turbine in this list screwed up BIG TIME with two games even, from wich one is now RIP and the other went F2P.
Yet they did very good and delivered one of the smoothest launched in that year with LOTRO.
I give Funcom a chance, with Ragnar at the helm, to do finally well with The Secret World.
And hey! It's pretty simple.... if they screw up again with The Secret World, it will be the end of the company. Then all you haters will see your wish fullfilled.
I don't see that happening. But we will see when the time of launch comes.
The fact remains that they " Funcom " puts out alot of hype and delivers an unfinished product that folks are paying to beta test for months and longer. You say nothing to disspell this and im not along in my thinking.
Jihad works both ways
Name me one MMO, except LOTRO, that released the last 3-4 years that didn't turn out to be a PAID beta at launch?
The whole MMO genre is in a down spiral since the last 3 years. To blame it all on Funcom isn't fair.
They screwed up royally with Age of Conan. Granted.
But so did Mythic with Warhammer Online.
So did Sigil with Vanguard.
So did WB and Monolith with Matrix Online.
So did NCWest with Tabula Rasa.
So did Frogster/Acclaim with The Cronicles of Spellborn.
So did Aventurine with Darkfall.
So did Turbine with Acheron's Call 2 and Dungeons and Dragons Online.
And I can go on.... and on.
Turbine in this list screwed up BIG TIME with two games even, from wich one is now RIP and the other went F2P.
Yet they did very good and delivered one of the smoothest launched in that year with LOTRO.
I give Funcom a chance, with Ragnar at the helm, to do finally well with The Secret World.
And hey! It's pretty simple.... if they screw up again with The Secret World, it will be the end of the company. Then all you haters will see your wish fullfilled.
I don't see that happening. But we will see when the time of launch comes.
Cheers
Track Record, Track Record, Track Record, it says TSW will be no different.
Jihad works both ways
" Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Would Threaten It " MAGA
Track Record, Track Record, Track Record, it says TSW will be no different. Jihad works both ways
You didn't answer my question. But then again. You are the stereotype troll. At least we won't see you in the game. Right right? That's a big plus already.
Have fun wasting your life bashing games on the internet!
ss and artwork look awesome, but ofc ill wait till it actually launched, then ill see if its worth the money
MMOs currently playing: - About to play: Lord of the Rings Online Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
I have a feeling this game is going to be instanced. These bland intros without indept feature info is very hard to even speculate if the game is going to be any good. Some games have good features on paper but totally fail at making them fun.
The producers of this game have said they are very much against instancing and prefer a seemless world. So they are going to try to make the world as seemless as possible. I would expect a world that will be something similar to how AO is set up. They didn't say that there won;t be instances though, but they were very adamant that they will be kept to a minimum.
Check out the thread on the official site for more info:
I hate the fact that all 3 factions are fighting the same evil. They need to be at odds with each other for good PvP.
I know that historically the Illuminati aren't evil (although the Templars would certainly feel they are), it seems like the best faction to play the bad guy role. Have them work towards taking over the world. They don’t have to be 100% aligned with the monsters, just trying to take advantage of the situation to gain power. Make the Templars work towards trying to save the world from the Illuminati and the monsters, and have Dragon be in the middle, helping whomever benefits them the most at the time.
Also, I’d LOVE to see this merged with a Whitewolf concept. Werewolves vs Vampires vs Mages. That would give you 6 factions. Vampires would naturally align with Illuminati as master manipulators. I’m not saying they wouldn’t fight each other occasionally – but they are both looking to manipulate and take over the world in different ways. Mages would align with the Templars – not because they are holy – but because they don’t like Werewolves and Vampires. Again, mages could end up fighting with the Templars because the Templars see magic as evil, or the mages want power too – but in general they’d have more against the other factions. And the Werewolves could go any direction they want – just like Dragon.
How or why would anyone trust a company as dishonest as Funcom again? Lots of companies make bad games but none lie or are as dishonest as Funcom. Even if they made a fantastic fun game many people will refuse to reward a company as dishonest on Funcom simply out of principal.
Originally posted by Zippy How or why would anyone trust a company as dishonest as Funcom again? Lots of companies make bad games but none lie or are as dishonest as Funcom. Even if they made a fantastic fun game many people will refuse to reward a company as dishonest on Funcom simply out of principal.
What? What has Funcom done that is so bad? I am not understanding some of the trolls in here.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
How or why would anyone trust a company as dishonest as Funcom again? Lots of companies make bad games but none lie or are as dishonest as Funcom. Even if they made a fantastic fun game many people will refuse to reward a company as dishonest on Funcom simply out of principal.
What? What has Funcom done that is so bad? I am not understanding some of the trolls in here.
Yeah I don't understand it either.
I mean.... the government is ripping you off each and every day.. till the day you die.
Funcom did it once with AoC and it's like the end of the world.
This game looks exciting and the whole "HP Lovecraft " theme is something refreshing for an MMO
I just have serious doubts that Funcom can develop an MMO like this due to past experiences ..e.g. AOC .I will wait till the game is released and then see the feedback from players before spending any money
Ok do they intend to actually have this game work correctly out of the box? And is everything they use to advertise going to be included at launch? Anything else about this game means nothing until I hear them talk about that if they intend to have a third mmo launch anywhere near the first two no thanks they can keep there paid beta.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
The only bad thing about this game is Funcom is making it. That alone turns many people off.
The idea for the game though is completely solid and I hope Failcom learned from its AoC failure.
I'm right there with you. I learned my lesson about the funcom hype machine. I've played a lot of games that were rocky at launch, but Conan just felt like bait and switch. Most of the things that were interesting to me weren't in at launch and several of them will never be. A year later, Conan still doesn't look like the game it was advertised as. That game is a colossal waste of the graphics capabilities. Environments look great, character models are excellent.. all the gear looks like ass. Maybe getting outside the strict confines of an established IP will correct that problem. I certainly won't get my hopes up about this game... but I'll keep a close eye on user reviews after it launches and I might look in to it if I hear enough good things.
I think the realistic armor is one of the best parts of AoC, You can usually tell if a person has their MMO roots in PnP or in Streetfighter by how they like their visuals.
I love the apparent snideness of this remark my roots are planted firmly in 1st edition Dungeons and Dragons and I don't like that junk they wear in aoc either. Never played a "streetfighter" where the toons wore armor so you lost me there.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
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Yeah, I'm not going to be a sucker a second time. If Funcom some how managed to buy say World of Warcraft from Blizzard I would cancel my sub immediately...I will not buy nor use anything that has the taint of Funcom branded on it.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall.
AoC had a failed launch but is not a failed game, it did not live up to the hype but then no MMO ever has.
“…and Secret Societies have grown to recruit man to combat the very real evil that seeps in unseen, players will fight the darkness and save the world!”
Sorry but who wrote this, Carolyn Koh? Is there some sort of secret message here or just a typo?
I agree that I would have liked to have started as an independent not allied with a society myself. Even if only in the starting location. But at some stage we would have to join a society to progress, no option there if the PvP mechanics are going to work properly.
What's the typo supposed to be?
I think it makes sense to have to ally yourself with a society from the start. If there is a way to chose it later that would cause more problems than they need, and it really wouldn't bring anything to the table. You'll still need to pick one before you can do anything interesting. The idea here is that only members of the societies know what's really going on, so you need to be a member of a society to fight what's really going on. It makes perfect sense.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
This game is going to be great. Its nice to have another MMO that is made in modern timeline with a bit of magic involved.
Funcom may have made a mistake with the early launching of AoC but that doesnt make them a crappy company. They wouldnt want to make the same mistake twice now would they?
It is skill based progression and less instanced, it also has some interesting concepts and fresh ideas for an MMO.
Something about this reminds me of Neil Gaimen and his sandman series, even the artwork looks like his illustrater.
playing eq2 and two worlds
I have all the faith that this is going to be a very good game! And I am sertainly going to play it.
Ragnar is a top notch guy that can make good games, with great story and fun gameplay. See Dreamfall and The Longest Journey.
He has been working on The Secret World since even before Funcom got hold on the Conan IP.
The problem however is this Erling guy.
I am absolutely baffled why they put him on the PR position again to promote this game?
He has done so much damage to their company. It's not even funny.
It's safe to say he did even more damage to Funcom's reputation, than even Gaute did.
At least Gaute finally took responsibility and resigned from the company.
Erling should have done the same!!
Because now, the moment people see this guy popping up in The Secret World videos, presentations and articles.
People will be insta reminded from Age of Conan and all the Anti Funcom aka Failcom rage will unleash again.
So so stupid!!
Not if people like you didn't remind other people by writing these comments.
We're trying to forget about the bad times.
Give them a chance.
(:
All im going to remind folks of here is of Funcom's track record of the games they put out it is not good. There track record says and loudly " LET THE BUYER BEWARE "
Jihad works both ways
MAGA
Guess you never played either Dreamfall nor The Longest Journey.
Otherwise you wouldn't be saying this stupid bullshit.
Anarchy Online had a very rough start. Everyone knows that. Yet it turned out to be a very good game and up till today still plenty of people enjoy it.
I never got the hang of it and don't like the game. Each to their own. Just personal taste.
Still this game running today with a decent population. Far better then most of the so called tripple A crap that has been released these last years that either went down within a year or are crippling with subscribers.
Cheers
Guess you never played either Dreamfall nor The Longest Journey.
Otherwise you wouldn't be saying this stupid bullshit.
Anarchy Online had a very rough start. Everyone knows that. Yet it turned out to be a very good game and up till today still plenty of people enjoy it.
I never got the hang of it and don't like the game. Each to their own. Just personal taste.
Still this game running today with a decent population. Far better then most of the so called tripple A crap that has been released these last years that either went down within a year or are crippling with subscribers.
Cheers
The fact remains that they " Funcom " puts out alot of hype and delivers an unfinished product that folks are paying to beta test for months and longer. You say nothing to disspell this and im not along in my thinking.
Jihad works both ways
MAGA
Name me one MMO, except LOTRO, that released the last 3-4 years that didn't turn out to be a PAID beta at launch?
The whole MMO genre is in a down spiral since the last 3 years. To blame it all on Funcom isn't fair.
They screwed up royally with Age of Conan. Granted.
But so did Mythic with Warhammer Online.
So did Sigil with Vanguard.
So did WB and Monolith with Matrix Online.
So did NCWest with Tabula Rasa.
So did Frogster/Acclaim with The Cronicles of Spellborn.
So did Aventurine with Darkfall.
So did Turbine with Acheron's Call 2 and Dungeons and Dragons Online.
And I can go on.... and on.
Turbine in this list screwed up BIG TIME with two games even, from wich one is now RIP and the other went F2P.
Yet they did very good and delivered one of the smoothest launched in that year with LOTRO.
I give Funcom a chance, with Ragnar at the helm, to do finally well with The Secret World.
And hey! It's pretty simple.... if they screw up again with The Secret World, it will be the end of the company. Then all you haters will see your wish fullfilled.
I don't see that happening. But we will see when the time of launch comes.
Cheers
Name me one MMO, except LOTRO, that released the last 3-4 years that didn't turn out to be a PAID beta at launch?
The whole MMO genre is in a down spiral since the last 3 years. To blame it all on Funcom isn't fair.
They screwed up royally with Age of Conan. Granted.
But so did Mythic with Warhammer Online.
So did Sigil with Vanguard.
So did WB and Monolith with Matrix Online.
So did NCWest with Tabula Rasa.
So did Frogster/Acclaim with The Cronicles of Spellborn.
So did Aventurine with Darkfall.
So did Turbine with Acheron's Call 2 and Dungeons and Dragons Online.
And I can go on.... and on.
Turbine in this list screwed up BIG TIME with two games even, from wich one is now RIP and the other went F2P.
Yet they did very good and delivered one of the smoothest launched in that year with LOTRO.
I give Funcom a chance, with Ragnar at the helm, to do finally well with The Secret World.
And hey! It's pretty simple.... if they screw up again with The Secret World, it will be the end of the company. Then all you haters will see your wish fullfilled.
I don't see that happening. But we will see when the time of launch comes.
Cheers
Track Record, Track Record, Track Record, it says TSW will be no different.
Jihad works both ways
MAGA
You didn't answer my question. But then again. You are the stereotype troll. At least we won't see you in the game. Right right? That's a big plus already.
Have fun wasting your life bashing games on the internet!
ignore the out-of-work trolls please
ss and artwork look awesome, but ofc ill wait till it actually launched, then ill see if its worth the money
MMOs currently playing: -
About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
The producers of this game have said they are very much against instancing and prefer a seemless world. So they are going to try to make the world as seemless as possible. I would expect a world that will be something similar to how AO is set up. They didn't say that there won;t be instances though, but they were very adamant that they will be kept to a minimum.
Check out the thread on the official site for more info:
www.darkdemonscrygaia.com/showthread.php
Einherjar_LC says: WTB the true successor to UO or Asheron's Call pst!
Faulty logic.
Just because the industry as a whole has turned into crap does not somehow justify Funcom's following suit.
"If everyone else jumped off a cliff, would you too?"
Idiocy is still idiocy.
Yes, I am an English Major.
I hate the fact that all 3 factions are fighting the same evil. They need to be at odds with each other for good PvP.
I know that historically the Illuminati aren't evil (although the Templars would certainly feel they are), it seems like the best faction to play the bad guy role. Have them work towards taking over the world. They don’t have to be 100% aligned with the monsters, just trying to take advantage of the situation to gain power. Make the Templars work towards trying to save the world from the Illuminati and the monsters, and have Dragon be in the middle, helping whomever benefits them the most at the time.
Also, I’d LOVE to see this merged with a Whitewolf concept. Werewolves vs Vampires vs Mages. That would give you 6 factions. Vampires would naturally align with Illuminati as master manipulators. I’m not saying they wouldn’t fight each other occasionally – but they are both looking to manipulate and take over the world in different ways. Mages would align with the Templars – not because they are holy – but because they don’t like Werewolves and Vampires. Again, mages could end up fighting with the Templars because the Templars see magic as evil, or the mages want power too – but in general they’d have more against the other factions. And the Werewolves could go any direction they want – just like Dragon.
See – now we have a killer MMO.
How or why would anyone trust a company as dishonest as Funcom again? Lots of companies make bad games but none lie or are as dishonest as Funcom. Even if they made a fantastic fun game many people will refuse to reward a company as dishonest on Funcom simply out of principal.
Ahh funcom, i love the fact that they dream big. I'm pulling for em.
What? What has Funcom done that is so bad? I am not understanding some of the trolls in here.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
What? What has Funcom done that is so bad? I am not understanding some of the trolls in here.
Yeah I don't understand it either.
I mean.... the government is ripping you off each and every day.. till the day you die.
Funcom did it once with AoC and it's like the end of the world.
Im not blown away.
No I dont hold Funcoms past against them and yes I want to play a great mmo like anyone.
But all that amounted to was a cock tease.
Wake me up when this game is a month from release.
This game looks exciting and the whole "HP Lovecraft " theme is something refreshing for an MMO
I just have serious doubts that Funcom can develop an MMO like this due to past experiences ..e.g. AOC .I will wait till the game is released and then see the feedback from players before spending any money
"after the time of dice came the day of mice "
Ok do they intend to actually have this game work correctly out of the box? And is everything they use to advertise going to be included at launch? Anything else about this game means nothing until I hear them talk about that if they intend to have a third mmo launch anywhere near the first two no thanks they can keep there paid beta.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
I'm right there with you. I learned my lesson about the funcom hype machine. I've played a lot of games that were rocky at launch, but Conan just felt like bait and switch. Most of the things that were interesting to me weren't in at launch and several of them will never be. A year later, Conan still doesn't look like the game it was advertised as. That game is a colossal waste of the graphics capabilities. Environments look great, character models are excellent.. all the gear looks like ass. Maybe getting outside the strict confines of an established IP will correct that problem. I certainly won't get my hopes up about this game... but I'll keep a close eye on user reviews after it launches and I might look in to it if I hear enough good things.
I think the realistic armor is one of the best parts of AoC, You can usually tell if a person has their MMO roots in PnP or in Streetfighter by how they like their visuals.
I love the apparent snideness of this remark my roots are planted firmly in 1st edition Dungeons and Dragons and I don't like that junk they wear in aoc either. Never played a "streetfighter" where the toons wore armor so you lost me there.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....