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Does this game still suck?
smitty0356
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I think this forum hits on many of the reasons I went from being a beta tester and avid fan, to quitting in record time for an mmo. I have toughed out some real stinkers.... some I don't even want to mention, but this one was just horrible.
Anyway, the propaganda podcasts make the game sound "all new" and snazzy when they just add a double ramp to rvr (which should have taken them 15 mins in beta), and removed burnable objects and wandering npc's.....
They did actually make it sound better, so I was just wondering if it ever got any better after a year?
ps. is the sorc still the lamest thing in the world? I remember I killed myself attacking an afk ironbreaker with backlash before I took even half of his life.... what a sick joke!!
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Might heip if you listed what you didn't like about the game (and when you left) so that people can tell you whether its improved or not.
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Use your ability that turns your dark power into an attack, and you will suck less.
To answer your question: Open RvR in lower tiers is much better than it was. End game is still bad. PvE is not changed.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
The game is most likely worse then when you left .
They have like 6 servers left and they are all unbalanced pretty much nothing but zerg balls.
With most talking about leaving for aion just look at the forms at warhammer online look at the server forms that will give you a picture of the state of the game.
I think they actually beat out AOC for most sub's lost in the shortest amount of time.
Now you have hacking warbuddy running rampant and CSR's just do not care at all about any thing.
The gimp /nerf bat has been swung around a lot and now you have just a few OP classes but they are way OP.
I play a sorc and you obviously did not play them right because they where one of the classes hit with the big nerf bat and people QQed about them and the BW a lot on the forms.
In short the game sucks and will most likely be put out of its misery bye years end but if you want to give it a try then roll destro on dark craig, or order on volkmar do not do the wrong faction on these servers or you will /rage before you quit again do not know how the other severs are on a daily basis.
To give you a example of how bad it is I was having more fun playing duegon runners then WAR.
Nothing has changed as far as stability of the game. Constant lag spikes, class imbalances still exist and the pve is still lackluster. I think the people who are left now are really the diehard Warhammer IP fans. Unless they give this game a complete facelift with a new philosophy on how the game should work then I believe the days are numbered for this game.
When they announced that this game and SWTOR would both be placed under the head of BioWare, it became clear that major resources would not be going into Warhammer.
They are numbered, for sure.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
I cancelled my preorder for the CE edition just before it came out. I am happy I did so.
At the end of the beta, I just knew where this was going (I was in beta for more than year)... in fact I think I knew it way before then. At first I bought into all the hype and lies about that there wasn't going to be regular fed ex quests and kill X that... but instead meaningful levelling. Well it never happened...
Sad to see WAR go though. The IP is one of my favorite. I used to play the tabletop since the very beginning (ed. II). So that is like almost two decades.... I had high hopes for sure..
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I haven't been back to see it with my own eyes, but if things really are still limping along I am not surprised. I thought PvE was rather enjoyable personally, until level 30'ish anyhow.
I think the major mistake made with WAR was to abandon Mythics gloriously wonderful DAOC style RvR system. Going with almost instantly accessible mini games that amounted to distractions from RvR rather than preparation for End game RvR was step one in the murder of the games PvP system. Step two was the massive dumbing down of the meaningful RvR system. Siege was lame from the get go, the keeps were designed terribly and the mechanics such as knock back (talking 100 yards punts!) and the vortex abilities all played a role in producing the most awkward PvP combat I've had the displeasure of experiencing.
A FAITHFUL Dark Age of Camelot 2 please?
If you found that sorceress backlash was too much of annoyance to you I suggest you try another class to get the general idea, as you know that when you have high Dark Magic which causes backlashes you will also do 35% more crits which cause 50% more damage (think those were the numbers) and also when running solo you have spell which you can drop that back to 0 which you should learn to do if you are running solo - also channeled spells in the middle tree are your friend especially Hand of Ruin
That you can get at rank 25 and it's the thing that will change the game play of sorceress for ever as you can get backlash only from the first tick and it's also instant, so you can start cycling spells, next you try to get the Disastrous Cascade for another channeled instant spell so you can cycle HoR and Cascade as needed and do thousands of points of damage in mere moments, naturally you are squishy but if you can get tank to guard you, or just be sneaky - you will be killing a lot of players
Then you get to 40 and try other specs, here is the one I loved on my sorc, I deleted my sorcerer (rr48 only) and swapped from Destruction to Order - this one has 3 channeled spells: 0-9-13
Enjoy
Generally melee classes will destroy you in melee and your ironbreaker example was kind of funny because of that, to kill tanks you dot them up, take them to half health with those and then blast them away to bits with Word of Pain and your instants (and you don't want to melee them)
if ur boss got fired and half of ur coworker got layofff and the other half got transfer what does that mean? its not that hard to figure out u know lol.
Completely unnecessary.
To answer your question, this game has sucked since it's offical beta release disguised as a commercial release and has continued it's massively sucessful suckage in the year that followed. If anything it sucks more today than it ever has because in theory the game should have improved. The fact that it has not improved and has in fact become a bigger fiasco than it was at launch puts it most squarely in the most sucky part of the entire Suck Universe.
You can make all the lists you want about what you do or don't like about the game and if you hurry really fast you can register your opinion before the last of the servers shut down.
Sorry about the TLDR version. To answer your question straight up. Yes, this game still sucks, but I suspect you all ready know that.
WAR would have had a great chance of success if the damn games client didn't run like shit for 99% of the playerbase.
If mythic kept that bitch in the oven another year optimizing the client and adding in the classes and all the cities atleast the endgame wouldn't have felt so static.
WAR may get better overtime but honestly when you mess up a game that could have been the second coming of DAoC most people just wont bother giving it a second look.
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Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum
Completely unnecessary.
To answer your question, this game has sucked since it's offical beta release disguised as a commercial release and has continued it's massively sucessful suckage in the year that followed. If anything it sucks more today than it ever has because in theory the game should have improved. The fact that it has not improved and has in fact become a bigger fiasco than it was at launch puts it most squarely in the most sucky part of the entire Suck Universe.
You can make all the lists you want about what you do or don't like about the game and if you hurry really fast you can register your opinion before the last of the servers shut down.
Sorry about the TLDR version. To answer your question straight up. Yes, this game still sucks, but I suspect you all ready know that.
seems like you know a lot about sucking...
Stop complaining and move your ass.
yes this game sucks as much as women in bukkake fests
I'm sure that someone has already addressed this but I couldn't resist. It's not that the sorcerer is lame, it's that you suck (badly) at playing that class. In fact, sorcerers are incredibly powerful and not difficult to play if you know what you are doing. You sound like a kid blaming his bike for making him fall off and skin his knee.
To address your main topic, I still enjoy the game, though I'm not as avid a fan as I once was.
I'm sure that someone has already addressed this but I couldn't resist. It's not that the sorcerer is lame, it's that you suck (badly) at playing that class. In fact, sorcerers are incredibly powerful and not difficult to play if you know what you are doing. You sound like a kid blaming his bike for making him fall off and skin his knee.
To address your main topic, I still enjoy the game, though I'm not as avid a fan as I once was.
smitty case is a classic, people dont know how to play well and blame the game...
Stop complaining and move your ass.
ight lets just put it this way if the game was released in its current form it would have been a success. however, once you botch a launch that badly there really is no recovering.
Lol.... are you freaking serious?! The engine sucked, the whole gameplay design element sucked.... everything was just awful. They would of had to start from scratch and redesign everything for this game to of ever had a chance at success.
what really killed the game was its endgame if they could have kept the fun factor high like it is from levels 1-20 it would have been a great game.
Man i made this big ass wall of text explaining the game, and all it equaled too was. Yes this game still does suck and very much so... once Aion comes out... I'm dropping jumping overboard on this sinking ship, after i bitch slap the captain in the face. Mythic suck's at being a company, and would not shed a tear... if they cease to exsist.
All they did was take great idea's for a game, and competely shit all over them. Their lack of real determination.. to fix problem's on going since beta.. has been very lackluster, and real questionable if they made any effort. It's either been bandaid fix after bandaid fix or making something so stupid, where you asked yourself WTF. (Example the Land of the Dead)
I'm not trying to make this into some kind of bashing, nerdrage, /emo post. But I've played this game since the early beta testing to recently.. with taking a total 3 month's off from it in that time span. All the time i was left thinking to myself playing Warhammer , was is this all a big cruel joke?
Granted at the end of the day... they did a total rush job on the game. Which account's to good portion of it's problem's But they made their bed and have to sleep in it.
I wouldnt say it sucks since I liked playing it alot, but end game gets boring after playing it like 8 months..
Currently playing: N/A
Retired from: GW, WAR, Aion, LOTRO, Rift, SW:TOR, Vinductus
It is truly sad for the Warhammer franchise. Now there is only 40k left...
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I think if the game was released in its current form it would be successful... for longer than it was during its original release. However not much has really changed in the last year and the results would most likely be the same.
Lets face it, warhammer is still merging servers on a farily regular basis, because people are still leaving. If people are still now, then I doubt the game has hit the point where it would be more successful a second time around.
Warhammer's combat is just last gen, no one to play with, I think a single player boring MMO isn't worth it, when an MMO puts me to sleep, I quit.
Don't know it if changed, but at the end of Beta the combat felt not just last gen - but it was oddly out of synch as if something was missing. It didn't have the appeal of even Warcraft. WoW is much more fluid.
But maybe they have refined it by now?
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Checking out the forum here and there, i dont see mythic done anything to the animations. What their focusing on now its bug solving, whatever they know and can, fixing the keeps, and adding some new content.
But to me, the core of the problem is the stuttering, hitching, lag and bugs.
Till now Mythic still cant pinpoint the problem, and i cant safety say they dont know whats the problem. So even if they have very good additions of new contents etc, players that cant play will not get to see it, and thereby wont return...
RIP Orc Choppa