This news tells me that what is really happening is that the secret MMORPG Bethesda is developing is non other than Fallout Online.
Bethesda knew that Interplay wouldn't be able to start developing the game by April 09 (as by the contract) therefore they were already developing the MMO waiting for April 09 when the IP would have got back to them.
Unfortunately Interplay played a nasty trick on them, they signed Masthead Studios (Earthrise) to develop the game.......... ONE DAY before the contract deadline.
Now because technically Interplay started developing the game, Bethesda won't be able to get their IP back and their secret MMO will have to be kept on hold, so they are quite pissed off.
To be honest as much I respect Masthead for what they are trying to do with Earthrise, I doubt that they will be able to handle a hot IP like Fallout.
Fallout Online should be developed by the Masters of RPGs, Bethesda.
I am waiting ages for a MMO made by them, I thought they would develope Elder Scroll online, but I am sure they could do a good job with Fallout too, plus the world could do with a MMO with different setting than Fantasy.
Really Bethesda is a developer without any creativity, why? after playing daggerfall and morrowind they make the the ES 4 the same way and with was not as good, then they make FO 3 same way, bethesda have a huge problem they don't change, they stay the same and it get real boring real fast, FO3 I don't even feel like playing anymore, its was not even fun. other problem with bethesda is they leave everything to they player base make the game any good because they are weak to even fix they own bugs, I remember pretty well with ES 4, it was impossible to play till I get some basic mods(the ones to fix all the performance issues and other bugs) plus more quests. and I don't know why some poeple defend bethesda they don't worth anyone care about then just because they make one or 2 games good don't mean they are gods, and interplay is almost death anyway so its would be like kicking a death dog now.
a for the dude who says bethesda said they bought FO of good will, no one do things for good will, in business it always have other things behind.
I used to love Interplay AND Bethseda but now? I laugh at how stupid they both are.
Ever since Bethseda changed their CEO and that corrupt bullshit happened they have been weird ever since. They are so shadey, it's horrible. Interplay? They fired Black Isle Studios! Wtf? They made Bladurs Gate, Black and White, Fallout, Etc Etc, you all know what they made. They made AMAZING games. In fact they were 93%+ done with Fallout 3 and i was so excited for THEIR version of Fallout 3. I like Fallout 3 for the 360 but it went from a 9/10 to a 7/10 just because Bethseda bought them out. Honestly Bethseda the ONLY reference to Fallout was Vaults, Brotherhood, Pipboy and their armor. They should of changed those animations and made it something different like "End of the World" or some obvious aftermath name.
Also what are they thinking? The ONLY reason they are suing them is becuase they want to be the only people making Fallout, they are greedy and corrupt. It's a shame that this goes on nowadays with video game companies so much, it used to not be like this (as much).
I am going into the field, and it just shows me which companies to never work with. Especially if you are done with a game and a studio fires your entire studio and sells it to a different one. They MADE fallout (black isle), it was their baby, if you have ever made a project just imagine how Black Isle feels about all that, and because of the law they can't do anything even though it is really their projects.
However now Fallout is being made a mockery because Bethseda wants something that they know would be a good investment. Interplay screwed themselves over, they sold their most well known studio and now are getting sued.
This makes me quite sad.
P.S. if you don't do your research and look at the change of management in Bethseda and look at what happened to Black Isle and Interplay, please don't try to reply to this shit. I read some of your guys responses and you have no clue what is going on. If you don't know the facts, don't open your mouth (or type them out).
Whatever. I don't think Interplay can come up with the resources (Money) to finish what they've started and Bethesda doesn't have the talent to make anything but another derivative MMO. The only reason Bethsoft is even interested using the Fallout setting for an MMO is because The Elder Scrolls is essentially the same stuff that's been done to death by at least a dozen other companies. If it weren't for the lure of the WoW cash cow, both companies would have the sense to realize that Fallout, the setting and everything that made the game so appealing, is the very definition of the Anti-MMO.
Fallout 3 is a complete disaster. Over-rated, over-hyped game which is nothing then an average shooter with some RPG elements. It's full of bugs and BAD design. It has nothing to do with previous Fallouts (1 & 2) I love so much. I only hope, if Zenimax will win the IP, that the development of Fallout Online will NOT be under Bethesda's game designers supervision, but Obsidian's.
Win or lose, nothing good is going to come from it in my opinion...
The Black Isle Studios that gave us classics like the old Fallout games and Planescape: Torment is no more. Minds like Chris Avellone and Chris Jones are over at Obsidian now, today's Interplay is not the same people that made those games. So I see Interplay making a Fallout MMO as no different from some random development house making it.
As for Bethesda, I'm not a fan. To me, Fallout 3 played like a really clunky FPS and the gameworld was... well, I crave those touches of originality in games, like Bioware keeps on delivering. I find both the Elder Scroll series and Fallout 3 severely lacking in this regard. It's almost like they're the Jack Higgings of the gaming world or something. I feel a Fallout MMO by Bethesda would play exactly like you'd imagine, and to me that'd not be a good thing.
I'd really prefer a post-apocalyptic MMO from a company experienced in FPS gaming. Like Valve or ID.
We don't need a Fallout MMO. They need to keep creating awesome Rpgs like the Elderscrolls series and Fallout 3.
FO3 was an amazing game I can't wait for the next installment.
I feel the sameway about Bioware. those guys need to leave mmos alone and keep making fantastic Rpgs stupid idiots took my possible Kotor 3 and made it a damn WoWclone mmo.
I totally agree on this statement but...
If there is maybe one company that can be a serieus contender agains blizzard its bethesda not only can make superb rpg's they also have the funds and abillity to compete witha blizzard if they make a mmo.
Bioware's move to make a starwars mmo in style of WoW is a big mistake and terible thought with EA behind it bah:(
But i rather see Bethesda continuing with normal rpg's then make mmo's.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
They fired Black Isle Studios! Wtf? They made Bladurs Gate, Black and White, Fallout, Etc Etc, you all know what they made. They made AMAZING games.
you do realize, that Bioware made Baldurs Gate, Lion Gate(not sure if he was part of Lion Gate when he did) but to be more specific Peter Molynux made Black and White... and yeah get your facts straight...
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This news tells me that what is really happening is that the secret MMORPG Bethesda is developing is non other than Fallout Online.
Bethesda knew that Interplay wouldn't be able to start developing the game by April 09 (as by the contract) therefore they were already developing the MMO waiting for April 09 when the IP would have got back to them.
Unfortunately Interplay played a nasty trick on them, they signed Masthead Studios (Earthrise) to develop the game.......... ONE DAY before the contract deadline.
Now because technically Interplay started developing the game, Bethesda won't be able to get their IP back and their secret MMO will have to be kept on hold, so they are quite pissed off.
To be honest as much I respect Masthead for what they are trying to do with Earthrise, I doubt that they will be able to handle a hot IP like Fallout.
Fallout Online should be developed by the Masters of RPGs, Bethesda.
I am waiting ages for a MMO made by them, I thought they would develope Elder Scroll online, but I am sure they could do a good job with Fallout too, plus the world could do with a MMO with different setting than Fantasy.
I Hope Bethesda wins, Interplay is history.
This is the forum equivalent of running home to mommy. Pathetic.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
This is the forum equivalent of running home to mommy. Pathetic.
Ok then... Imbecile.
NEW IDEAS that can refresh the STALE state of MMORPGs
This is the forum equivalent of running home to mommy. Pathetic.
And this, then, is the forum equivalent of not knowing why forums have moderators. Abusive behaviour is not something to cultivate, anywhere.
Although, I prefer to simply use the 'report' link, and not post about it unless I myself am directly involved. It's, well, cleaner.
Really Bethesda is a developer without any creativity, why? after playing daggerfall and morrowind they make the the ES 4 the same way and with was not as good, then they make FO 3 same way, bethesda have a huge problem they don't change, they stay the same and it get real boring real fast, FO3 I don't even feel like playing anymore, its was not even fun. other problem with bethesda is they leave everything to they player base make the game any good because they are weak to even fix they own bugs, I remember pretty well with ES 4, it was impossible to play till I get some basic mods(the ones to fix all the performance issues and other bugs) plus more quests. and I don't know why some poeple defend bethesda they don't worth anyone care about then just because they make one or 2 games good don't mean they are gods, and interplay is almost death anyway so its would be like kicking a death dog now.
a for the dude who says bethesda said they bought FO of good will, no one do things for good will, in business it always have other things behind.
I used to love Interplay AND Bethseda but now? I laugh at how stupid they both are.
Ever since Bethseda changed their CEO and that corrupt bullshit happened they have been weird ever since. They are so shadey, it's horrible. Interplay? They fired Black Isle Studios! Wtf? They made Bladurs Gate, Black and White, Fallout, Etc Etc, you all know what they made. They made AMAZING games. In fact they were 93%+ done with Fallout 3 and i was so excited for THEIR version of Fallout 3. I like Fallout 3 for the 360 but it went from a 9/10 to a 7/10 just because Bethseda bought them out. Honestly Bethseda the ONLY reference to Fallout was Vaults, Brotherhood, Pipboy and their armor. They should of changed those animations and made it something different like "End of the World" or some obvious aftermath name.
Also what are they thinking? The ONLY reason they are suing them is becuase they want to be the only people making Fallout, they are greedy and corrupt. It's a shame that this goes on nowadays with video game companies so much, it used to not be like this (as much).
I am going into the field, and it just shows me which companies to never work with. Especially if you are done with a game and a studio fires your entire studio and sells it to a different one. They MADE fallout (black isle), it was their baby, if you have ever made a project just imagine how Black Isle feels about all that, and because of the law they can't do anything even though it is really their projects.
However now Fallout is being made a mockery because Bethseda wants something that they know would be a good investment. Interplay screwed themselves over, they sold their most well known studio and now are getting sued.
This makes me quite sad.
P.S. if you don't do your research and look at the change of management in Bethseda and look at what happened to Black Isle and Interplay, please don't try to reply to this shit. I read some of your guys responses and you have no clue what is going on. If you don't know the facts, don't open your mouth (or type them out).
"Peace is in the eye of the beholder"
fuck fallout, bethesda needs to make an elder scrolls mmo
Whatever. I don't think Interplay can come up with the resources (Money) to finish what they've started and Bethesda doesn't have the talent to make anything but another derivative MMO. The only reason Bethsoft is even interested using the Fallout setting for an MMO is because The Elder Scrolls is essentially the same stuff that's been done to death by at least a dozen other companies. If it weren't for the lure of the WoW cash cow, both companies would have the sense to realize that Fallout, the setting and everything that made the game so appealing, is the very definition of the Anti-MMO.
Fallout 3 is a complete disaster. Over-rated, over-hyped game which is nothing then an average shooter with some RPG elements. It's full of bugs and BAD design. It has nothing to do with previous Fallouts (1 & 2) I love so much. I only hope, if Zenimax will win the IP, that the development of Fallout Online will NOT be under Bethesda's game designers supervision, but Obsidian's.
Win or lose, nothing good is going to come from it in my opinion...
The Black Isle Studios that gave us classics like the old Fallout games and Planescape: Torment is no more. Minds like Chris Avellone and Chris Jones are over at Obsidian now, today's Interplay is not the same people that made those games. So I see Interplay making a Fallout MMO as no different from some random development house making it.
As for Bethesda, I'm not a fan. To me, Fallout 3 played like a really clunky FPS and the gameworld was... well, I crave those touches of originality in games, like Bioware keeps on delivering. I find both the Elder Scroll series and Fallout 3 severely lacking in this regard. It's almost like they're the Jack Higgings of the gaming world or something.
I feel a Fallout MMO by Bethesda would play exactly like you'd imagine, and to me that'd not be a good thing.
I'd really prefer a post-apocalyptic MMO from a company experienced in FPS gaming. Like Valve or ID.
I totally agree on this statement but...
If there is maybe one company that can be a serieus contender agains blizzard its bethesda not only can make superb rpg's they also have the funds and abillity to compete witha blizzard if they make a mmo.
Bioware's move to make a starwars mmo in style of WoW is a big mistake and terible thought with EA behind it bah:(
But i rather see Bethesda continuing with normal rpg's then make mmo's.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
you do realize, that Bioware made Baldurs Gate, Lion Gate(not sure if he was part of Lion Gate when he did) but to be more specific Peter Molynux made Black and White... and yeah get your facts straight...